David They would almost certainly have sailed from Derry. Magilligan is also a possibility. There were ships sailing from there at the time - mostly run by merchants in the city. One of them was a Dysart. You can see the ads in the Belfast Newsletter. The University of S Louisiana indexed it up to 1800. http://www.ucs.louisiana.edu/bnl/Main.html It is not always easy to get the full story from these extracts but they give a flavour of the times and if one of the Adams turns out to be yours, then I believe some large American libraries have microfilm of the original. The Derry Journal was in print from 1770? and may have items more local to Derry. As far as I know it has only been indexed for a short period 1770-75? from memory. However you won't find passenger lists unless you are extremely lucky. No one was required to keep them. The American colonies were part of the British possessions (for a while) and you needed no pass to travel within the lands your country owned, if you were a British national. Since there was no law requiring passenger lists, no-one kept them. If you were German or some other nationality then you did need to be listed. As to prisoners, I assume this was during the Revolutionary War. I know that some were held on prison ships, but if they were prisoners who were tried , there should be a record in the Public Record office - currently being renamed National Archives- in Kew, London http://catalogue.pro.gov.uk/ They also have very good leaflets which might give you further avenues to explore. http://www.pro.gov.uk/leaflets/Riindex.asp#A There is one on the American revolution and one on prisoners of War which looks interesting. Finally church records are a possibility although not much exists before 1800. I'm assuming they were Church of Ireland or Presbyterian. The most likely church is Drumachose. I have looked at those records in PRONI and didn't make a note as to how far back they went. Rachel > I'm starting the search for my ADAMS line that came from Newton >
Hello Rachel gave URL for Belfast Newsletter Index----many thanks. I have found a document # I wish to obtain. Is there anyone who could copy this--I would gratefully reimburse for copy and postage. There is no library near which would have this film. Please reply privately if you could help. Thanks Eileen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rachel" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> > http://www.ucs.louisiana.edu/bnl/Main.html > ==== NIR-DERRY Mailing List ==== > ROLL CALLS? Not permitted unless instituted by the List Admin. But post > your interests and areas of search often. New members join every day. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >
Rachel - the very lady I was hoping would be answering somebody soon,since I accidently "wiped' your e-mail address from my list! Do you know of a passenger or ship list on line, for people who went to Canada,from NI, c 1912/1918. Betsy Harper. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rachel" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 7:51 AM Subject: Re: [Derry] On Leaving Ireland -- ca 1776 > David > They would almost certainly have sailed from Derry. Magilligan is also a > possibility. There were ships sailing from there at the time - mostly run > by merchants in the city. One of them was a Dysart. You can see the ads in > the Belfast Newsletter. The University of S Louisiana indexed it up to > 1800. > http://www.ucs.louisiana.edu/bnl/Main.html > It is not always easy to get the full story from these extracts but they > give a flavour of the times and if one of the Adams turns out to be yours, > then I believe some large American libraries have microfilm of the original. > > The Derry Journal was in print from 1770? and may have items more local to > Derry. As far as I know it has only been indexed for a short period > 1770-75? from memory. > However you won't find passenger lists unless you are extremely lucky. No > one was required to keep them. The American colonies were part of the > British possessions (for a while) and you needed no pass to travel within > the lands your country owned, if you were a British national. Since there > was no law requiring passenger lists, no-one kept them. > If you were German or some other nationality then you did need to be listed. > > As to prisoners, I assume this was during the Revolutionary War. I know > that some were held on prison ships, but if they were prisoners who were > tried , there should be a record in the Public Record office - currently > being renamed National Archives- in Kew, London > http://catalogue.pro.gov.uk/ > > They also have very good leaflets which might give you further avenues to > explore. > http://www.pro.gov.uk/leaflets/Riindex.asp#A > There is one on the American revolution and one on prisoners of War which > looks interesting. > > Finally church records are a possibility although not much exists before > 1800. I'm assuming they were Church of Ireland or Presbyterian. The most > likely church is Drumachose. I have looked at those records in PRONI and > didn't make a note as to how far back they went. > > Rachel > > > I'm starting the search for my ADAMS line that came from Newton > > > > > > ==== NIR-DERRY Mailing List ==== > ROLL CALLS? Not permitted unless instituted by the List Admin. But post > your interests and areas of search often. New members join every day. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >