Hello Julie, Thank you very much for responding to my query. I will certainly contact Mr Mitchell and see what he has to say. I thought ELLIS was bad enough, but SMYTH !! (Poor thing :-)). I will let you know how I go. Thanks again. Kind Regards, Leigh in Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Smyth Family" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [Derry] ELLIS - LONDONDERRY ? > Hello, > Unfortunately, I don't have any direct information regarding your family, but just a suggestion. > > Contact the Derry Genealogy Centre (you can find them online). Mr. Brian Mitchell is the head researcher and wrote one (or perhaps more) books on emigrant ships (so I assume he would have a good knowledge of shipping in general). I am researching Smyth (aren't I lucky with that name) but fortunately had them to early 1700's per Burke's Landed Gentry. Since I wasn't getting backward anymore, I decided to go sideways in my research to see if I could connect via a sibling. Even though I had most of the info, Brian Mitchell filled in alot of blanks. He knew the current resident of the gentleman's house my Smyth's had built in 1803. He had gone to church with the descendant that had inherited the house (Glendermott Presbyterian Church). He also knew a line of mine by marriage (Irvine) and put me in touch with a non-family member that had inherited photos taken by the Irvine's in Derry and Donegal from 1890 on - and I was lucky enough to get prints. > > Good luck, we may perhaps line up somewhere - my Smyth's were in shipping with a grain import business and linen business. John Acheson Smyth bought Ships Quay (warf) from the city of Londonderry in the 1830's (I'm sure the fact his brother in law was Lord Mayor of Londonderry at the time had nothing to do with his buying public property). > > Julie Smyth > Washington State, USA > > Wallbank <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Listers, > > This is my first posting to this list and I hope someone can help me. The story is a little long so please bear with me. > > My 3 x gt grandfather, Dr James ELLIS, was a Surgeon Superintendent in the Royal Navy. I have a great deal of info on his naval service from the PRO and his medical credentials from the Royal College of Surgeons, however, not his place of birth, DOB and parentage. From this data I believe he was born c. 1792/3 and he received his MRCS in 1813. He married my 3 x gt grandmother, Elizabeth FUZZEY, in Bromley, Kent England in 1822 and they had four children at least - Elizabeth, Edwin James (my 2 x gt grandfather), Alfred & James Fuzzey ELLIS. James spent prolonged periods on leave in Londonderry - 4 months in 1829 and 12 months from May 1830 to May 1831. Because James spent so much time on leave in "Londonderry" I am presuming that his family were there or somewhere in Northern Ireland. James was the Surgeon Superintendent on five convict ships to Australia in the 1820s/1830s and, on one of these journeys he met one of the daughters of the Captain of the Guard, Eli! > za Ann(e) MCDONALD, and married her in Sydney in 1835 (bigamous marriage). (This captain of the guard, George MCDONALD had spent time, on duty, in Ireland also). James and Eliza Ann(e) moved to Yass New South Wales where he was the GP, magistrate and coroner. They returned to London in the late 1850s and he died there in 1863.The house he is supposed to have built in Yass was called "Crona" which might lead me to an association with Donegal (Templecrone) but, again, this could be just another "red herring" (one of many !! :-)). > > A fellow ELLIS researcher has told me that James may be the second son of Henry (Deputy Lord Lieutenant of the County of Derry) and his wife, Ann (nee MURRAY). They had three sons - Henry (born 1784), James and Hercules (born 1799) and a daughter, Mary. Unfortunately, there didn't seem to any information on James. It appears that a Henry (the father ?) died in 1829 which would tie-up with James' visits to Londonderry. > > I know that my gt-grandfather, Edwin James Fuzzey ELLIS, was an "Orangeman" and left a painting of the "Battle of the Boyne" in his Will (so, presumably, there was a commitment to that cause). > > Apart from that, I don't know where else to go (I've been looking for Dr ELLIS RN for twenty five years). All of the relevant English Censuses have been looked at and, unbelievably, the pages are missing !). > > I would be happy for anyone with a connection to any ELLIS family to contact me. > > Sorry this is such a long story and many thanks for taking the time to read this. > > Kind Regards, > > Leigh Wallbank (Mrs) > in Sydney > > > > > ==== NIR-DERRY Mailing List ==== > This List is dedicated to County Derry, N. Ireland. 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Does any one have a contact email address for Mr Mitchell?? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wallbank" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 11:45 PM Subject: Re: [Derry] ELLIS - LONDONDERRY ? > Hello Julie, > > Thank you very much for responding to my query. I will certainly contact Mr > Mitchell and see what he has to say. I thought ELLIS was bad enough, but > SMYTH !! (Poor thing :-)). > > I will let you know how I go. > > Thanks again. > > Kind Regards, > > Leigh > in Sydney > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Smyth Family" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 3:17 PM > Subject: Re: [Derry] ELLIS - LONDONDERRY ? > > > > Hello, > > Unfortunately, I don't have any direct information regarding your family, > but just a suggestion. > > > > Contact the Derry Genealogy Centre (you can find them online). Mr. Brian > Mitchell is the head researcher and wrote one (or perhaps more) books on > emigrant ships (so I assume he would have a good knowledge of shipping in > general). I am researching Smyth (aren't I lucky with that name) but > fortunately had them to early 1700's per Burke's Landed Gentry. Since I > wasn't getting backward anymore, I decided to go sideways in my research to > see if I could connect via a sibling. Even though I had most of the info, > Brian Mitchell filled in alot of blanks. He knew the current resident of > the gentleman's house my Smyth's had built in 1803. He had gone to church > with the descendant that had inherited the house (Glendermott Presbyterian > Church). He also knew a line of mine by marriage (Irvine) and put me in > touch with a non-family member that had inherited photos taken by the > Irvine's in Derry and Donegal from 1890 on - and I was lucky enough to get > prints. > > > > Good luck, we may perhaps line up somewhere - my Smyth's were in shipping > with a grain import business and linen business. John Acheson Smyth bought > Ships Quay (warf) from the city of Londonderry in the 1830's (I'm sure the > fact his brother in law was Lord Mayor of Londonderry at the time had > nothing to do with his buying public property). > > > > Julie Smyth > > Washington State, USA > > > > Wallbank <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear Listers, > > > > This is my first posting to this list and I hope someone can help me. The > story is a little long so please bear with me. > > > > My 3 x gt grandfather, Dr James ELLIS, was a Surgeon Superintendent in the > Royal Navy. I have a great deal of info on his naval service from the PRO > and his medical credentials from the Royal College of Surgeons, however, not > his place of birth, DOB and parentage. From this data I believe he was born > c. 1792/3 and he received his MRCS in 1813. He married my 3 x gt > grandmother, Elizabeth FUZZEY, in Bromley, Kent England in 1822 and they had > four children at least - Elizabeth, Edwin James (my 2 x gt grandfather), > Alfred & James Fuzzey ELLIS. James spent prolonged periods on leave in > Londonderry - 4 months in 1829 and 12 months from May 1830 to May 1831. > Because James spent so much time on leave in "Londonderry" I am presuming > that his family were there or somewhere in Northern Ireland. James was the > Surgeon Superintendent on five convict ships to Australia in the 1820s/1830s > and, on one of these journeys he met one of the daughters of the Captain of > the Guard, Eli! > > za Ann(e) MCDONALD, and married her in Sydney in 1835 (bigamous marriage). > (This captain of the guard, George MCDONALD had spent time, on duty, in > Ireland also). James and Eliza Ann(e) moved to Yass New South Wales where he > was the GP, magistrate and coroner. They returned to London in the late > 1850s and he died there in 1863.The house he is supposed to have built in > Yass was called "Crona" which might lead me to an association with Donegal > (Templecrone) but, again, this could be just another "red herring" (one of > many !! :-)). > > > > A fellow ELLIS researcher has told me that James may be the second son of > Henry (Deputy Lord Lieutenant of the County of Derry) and his wife, Ann (nee > MURRAY). They had three sons - Henry (born 1784), James and Hercules (born > 1799) and a daughter, Mary. Unfortunately, there didn't seem to any > information on James. It appears that a Henry (the father ?) died in 1829 > which would tie-up with James' visits to Londonderry. > > > > I know that my gt-grandfather, Edwin James Fuzzey ELLIS, was an > "Orangeman" and left a painting of the "Battle of the Boyne" in his Will > (so, presumably, there was a commitment to that cause). > > > > Apart from that, I don't know where else to go (I've been looking for Dr > ELLIS RN for twenty five years). All of the relevant English Censuses have > been looked at and, unbelievably, the pages are missing !). > > > > I would be happy for anyone with a connection to any ELLIS family to > contact me. > > > > Sorry this is such a long story and many thanks for taking the time to > read this. > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Leigh Wallbank (Mrs) > > in Sydney > > > > > > > > > > ==== NIR-DERRY Mailing List ==== > > This List is dedicated to County Derry, N. Ireland. If you have a problem, > question, need direction or to report a virus, please contact the Kathleen > off-list at [email protected] Thanks. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do you Yahoo!? > > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > > > > > > ==== NIR-DERRY Mailing List ==== > > ROLL CALLS? 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