Hello Diane Some leads in answer to your message of 26 August ..... "Hello Listers, I am looking for help regarding the Kelso family from Ireland and possibly earlier from Scotland. There has been a Harloe-Kelso Genealogy in print since 1943, so I have family information from 1800 forward. I would like to learn more about the family's origins. Diane" (1) Forgive me for asking an obvious ...... Have you looked at the Kelso Genealogical Resource page? See website http://joe_kelso.tripod.com/ (2) In his book "Presbyterians and the Irish Language" (published by the Ulster Historical Foundation), Roger Blaney writes at page 9: "In the year 1661 there were seventy Presbyterian ministers in Ulster and there were signs that the Church now felt confident enough to make some evangelistic approaches through the Irish language. The main participants were O'Quinn, Cornwall, and probably Wallace. However, many other names were mentioned in relation to preaching in places such as Tipperary, Connaught, and elsewhere in the south and west. The individual ministers mentioned included Archibald Hamilton, Samuel Hallyday, William Henry, Robert Kelso, Duncan Campbell, John Hamilton, William Hampton. They were missionaries in Irish-speaking areas and it can be safely assumed that they too spoke Irish." The conclusion is that Rev Robert Kelso, a Presbyterian minister, was already in Ulster in 1661. (3) I have a copy will, from Wills-Online at the PRO London, to one "Robert Mitchell formerly of the first Battalion of Royal Scots now an out Pensioner of Chelsea Hospital at present residing in Bishop street in the suburbs of the city of Londonderry", will proved 26 September 1822, in which Robert Mitchell named "Mr Joseph Kelso of Londonderry to be [one of] my true executors". I suspect this Joseph Kelso was a merchant and shipowner in Londonderry -- you will find mention of him for example at Website http://www.immigrantships.net/v2/1800v2/prudence18320720.html for the ship "Prudence" that sailed from Londonderry, Ireland, to the Port of Philadelphia on 20 July 1832 "Report or Manifest of all the Passengers taken on board the Prudence whereof William Coppin is Master, from Londonderry burthen ____ Tons and owned by Joseph Kelso of Londonderry and bound to Philadelphia." (ISTG Vol 2 - Ship Prudence) Kind regards Dave Mitchell Cape Town South Africa UGHG No. 202

Hello Fellow Listers: I'm searching for ancestors and/or information for my 4th Great-grandfather, Hugh DELRUMPLE/DALRYMPLE. Here's what I know.... Hugh DALRYMPLE (b.1776 in Ireland) md. a woman with the first initial of "I" (b.1774) and was in 1850 living in Lack Twp., Juniata County, Pennsylvania. Hugh on 7-Sep-1832, was 53 years of age when he petitioned and took the oath of United States citizenship in the courts in Mifflin County, Pennsylvania. At that tipe his petition reported that he "emigrated on 23-Jun-1800 from Londonderry and landed dt Philadelphia in September 1800 and his business is laborer - and having resided in Mifflin County ever since in the township of Lack he hereby renounces... every foreign prince, state and sovereignty ... particularly William the IV, king of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland". During the 1850 U.S. Census he was listed as Hugh DELRIMPLE and a wife, "I____" and 3 females and 1 male: Martha Mary Catherine (b.1805), "E____" (b.1810), Ann (b.1815) and Hugh (b.1817). Since this is my first time at attempting research outside of the US, please advise on where I should look... or if this fellow looks familiar - please contact me. THANKS in advance for any assistance. Donna Heller Zinn of Newville, Cumberland Co., PA.

Hello, Could someone who has access to Julia Mullin's book, Presbytery of Limavady, do a search for my gr gr gr uncle, Thomas Kennedy? He was a Presbyterian minister at Newtown Limavady during the 1870's. I don't know how many years or what church. He died in 1880. I also know that he lived with his cousins and one of them was named Rachel Miller. Thomas was originally from Quilley townland, not far from Dunboe, County Londonderry. His father was Samuel Kennedy, born in 1780, and they attended the Articlave Presbyterian Church. I would really appreciate someone looking in the book if they have it, so I could learn more about Rev. Thomas Kennedy. Thank you, Karin Kennedy Heymer

I have been transcribing some McCausland marriages from Co. Londonderry. The following list is abbreviated. I will supply the full transcript (an the original image) to anyone who wishes a copy. Please give the reference number and a note if you want the image (seem to be about 300-400 KB each). (4531) Elinor Georgiana McCausland m. 11 Sep 1851 Newtown Limavady - George Bright b. 2 May 1826. (4945) Mark McCausland m. 15 Aug 1851 Ballscullion Parish Church - Sarah Evans (I have b. 1830 d. 22 Feb 1870 (92217) Sarah McCausland m. 20 Oct 1852 at Ballyscullion Parish Church - John Evans (10130) Marcus McCausland m. 8 Nov 1857 Dungiven – Lydia Green. (62160) Sarah Jane McCausland m. 30 Jun 1853 Glendermot Meeting House – Hugh Dannatr Sarah was first married to John McCausland d. 1 Sep 1851 Lismacaroll, Ireland. (92232) William McCausland m. 25 Oct 1853 Glendermot Meeting House - Elizabeth Wilson (4532) Adelaide McCausland m. 5 Aug 1856 Newtown Limavady – Oliver Claude (6381) Rosina Jane McCausland m. 9 Jun 1857 Londonderry - John Harvey (61790) Theodosia McCausland m. 8 Dec 1857 Londonderry– Senior (?) Warren (92430) Martha McCausland m. 13 Aug 1862 Maghera– Alexander Leckey (85270) John McCausland (b. 1821) m. 13 Mar 1847 Martha McDonald (b. 1823 -- ------------------------------------------------------- Bruce E. Andrews (H) 253-845-3632 (C) 206-999-9744 M c C a u s l a n d & S o u t h e y RootsWeb listowner 13107 - 115th St. E e-mail: bruce_andrews@comcast.net Puyallup, WA 98374 USA -------------------------------------------------------

Dear List Members, Further to my previous postings I have found that in the 1861 Census of Glasgow my ancestor's father David SIMPSON aged 60 as well as a brother James aged 20 were both living with my SIMPSON family in Milton. David SIMPSON was a retired builder and James SIMPSON was a bricklayer. I did a search for a death certificate in Scotland for a David SIMPSON and the closest match in terms of age was a David SIMPSON who died in Renfrew in 1866 the same year as my SIMPSON family emigrated to New Zealand. The occupation of this David SIMPSON was given as bricklayer. According to the death certificate however this David SIMPSON was single however my David SIMPSON was a widower. According to John SIMPSON 's death certificate his mother's maiden name was Elizabeth BACON and the surname BACON has been used as a middle name by one of John SIMPSON 's sons. The parents of the David SIMPSON for whom I have a death certificate are James SIMPSON who was also a bricklayer and Nancy RUSSELL. While I know that this is perhaps a long shot, is there anyone who is researching the names SIMPSON and RUSSELL from the Limavady area who would be able to confirm that I have the death certificate for the correct David SIMPSON. Although to my knowledge none of John SIMPSON 's sons in New Zealand became builders or bricklayers there does appear to be a particular trend. Does any one know of any other resources related to this occupation that may be available. Regards, Christine

Dear List Members, Further to my previous query re my ancestor Mary WETHERALL to confuse the issue I have obtained a copy of the 1861 census from Glasgow which gives her birthplace as Glasgow not Ireland although her husband and his father and brother who were living with them were born in Ireland. I have however come across a reference to a Thomas WITHEROW (1824-1890) who was a Presbyterian minister who was born in Limavady but was educated in Belfast and Glasgow. I understand that he may have been somewhat of a radical. This Thomas WITHEROW wrote an autobiography. I am wondering whether there may be some connection to this man. Does anyone know whether his autobiography would be available in one of the local libraries and if so is there anyone who would be able to have a look at it for me to see what information is provided about his family and his early life. Any help would be appreciated. Regards, Christine

Hello, Christine: There is a three-volume publication entitled, "FASTI of the Presbyterian Church in Ireland, 1840 to 1910, in 3 parts" compiled by John Barclay. This compilation contains brief bios for Irish Presbyterian minister. Sometimes (but not always), it mentions wives and fathers, in the latter instance, often when these were also Presbyterian ministers. According to its website, the Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland sells this publication for £7.50. http://www.presbyterianireland.org/phsi/index.html Alternatively, you might be able to borrow this item via either the LDS (?) or inter-library loan at a local public library or university. Best wishes, Alison Causton Annapolis Valley, Nova Scotia On 27-Jul-06, at 6:56 PM, Christine Tregonning wrote: > Dear List Members, > ... > I have however come across a reference to a Thomas WITHEROW > (1824-1890) who > was a Presbyterian minister who was born in Limavady but was > educated in ...

I have been searching for ggrands Michael and Bridget Nicholson. Using Irish Origins through the Origins Network I find in the 1841 U.K. Census Irish Strays Michael Nicholson listed in Cheshire etc. and Bridget Nicholson in Staffordshire etc. The ages seem about right from what else I know. What would be the probability of these people being my folks? Any speculation as to why they would not be living together in U.K.? They had young children but none are listed in the Census. In Griffith's 1857 Michael Nicholson is listed in Donegal, Townland Rossbeg and Bridget Nicholson in Donegal, Townland Naran as a Freeholder. My ggrandfather James Nicholson son of Michael and Bridget arrived in Boston, Massachusetts in 1860. Any suggestions for further research? Griffith's lists also Poor Law Union Glenties, Barony Boylagh and Parish Inishkeel for both Michael and Bridget. David Nicholson

Hello, I'm looking for information on Patrick McGaffigan. He was born in 1845 in Derry, Ireland. His wife's name was Margaret _________. She was born abt 1844 in Ireland. They had children named: Patrick McGaffigan b abt 1876 (married Anna _____) James McGaffigan b abt 1877 Ellen McGaffigan b abt 1880 They had another daughter (name unknown) who married a Murphy. Patrick, Margaret and their family came from Derry, Ireland to Boston, Massachusetts in April 1888 on board the ship "Siberian". Any information would be greatly appreciated! Thank you! Jennifer West Brown

I am researching the family of Charles Adams (wife Elizabeth Scott) who apparently came to Conneticut and then San Francisco in about 1878 from Derry Co. Ireland. They had children Rebecca Jane and Caroline born in Ireland before they came. Elizabeth had a sister Rebecca who married Thomas White. She probably also had siblings ( or maybe other close relatives) Samuel, Caroline, Ben, Marion, Shara and John since I had pictures of all of these Scotts. If this sounds like a link to any one else's family please contact me. Suzanne Galloway _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/

Is there anyone out there researching the name McCready, in all it's spellings, pre 1840. I should be pleased to exchange information on this subject, with reference to N.Ireland and South.Derry in particular. Bill.

Hi Kathy, Thanks a lot, I had no idea what the abbreviations meant. This is the first time I've got an Irish marriage certificate and I was hoping it would confirm the names of James and Catherine's mothers - McGonnigle and McClusky - which I had got from James and Catherine's death certificates in Scotland but no luck there. Thanks again. Marion Fyfe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Nemaric" <knemaric1@cfl.rr.com> To: "'Marion Fyfe'" <marioncfyfe@btopenworld.com>; <NIR-DERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 2:07 PM Subject: RE: [Derry] Derry Marriage Certificate Question > Hello Marion, > > The numbers and abbreviations you see on the certificate are the numbers > of > Acts of Parliament. In 1844, the 7 & 8 Vict (for "Victorian") was passed. > "c. 81" is the chapter, which is specifically the Marriages (Ireland) Act. > This act established compulsory registration of all non-Catholic marriages > in Ireland. It provided for the appointment of a registrar general -- you > can look upon it as the equivalent of the 1837 date for civil registration > in England. > > The 27 Vict. was passed in 1863, and chapter 27 is the Marriage Law > (Ireland) Amendment Act. This law (among other things) introduced the > notice > procedure for marriage in the office of the registrar. > > Kathy Judge Nemaric > Orlando, Florida > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marion Fyfe [mailto:marioncfyfe@btopenworld.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 7:42 AM > To: NIR-DERRY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [Derry] Derry Marriage Certificate Question > > Hi, > > I recently got a copy of my great grandparents marriage certificate and > was > surprised to find that they married in the Register's Office in the City > of > Londonderry rather than in a church. > > James Brown and Catherine Myles were married in 1875 and lived at > Longfield, > > Parish of Faughanvale. > > Could anyone help me work out what this means - > > Under the section with details of names, occupations and where they lived > it > > says - Married in the Register's Office according to the provisions of the > 7th & 8th Vic.C.81, & 27 Vic. C. 27 by Certificate me, David Irvine, > Registrar. > > Thanks > > Marion Fyfe > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frank McGonigal" <frank017@sympatico.ca> > To: <NIR-DERRY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:17 AM > Subject: [Derry] McGonigal > > >> Hi Everyone >> Can SKS do a look up for me from the 1831 Londonderry/Derry census index >> CD ?? >> >> I've just received new information that my gr.gr.grandfather Hugh >> McGonigal / McGonigle and spelling variants,was born in Londonderry/Derry >> about 1816. >> >> LDS have filmed the census,but there are 4 films which I would have to >> troll thru to try and find him. >> He was married to Sarah Coyle in Glasgow Scotland according to the 1841 >> census of Glasgow,and a poor house application in 1858 it says "Born in >> Derry". >> The Index as you see below is only available at Salt Lake or I would >> order > >> it thru my local FHC. >> __1831 census of County Londonderry index FHL BRITISH Library Attendants' >> Window ...6342808__ >> >> Thanks >> Frank McGonigal Ont.Canada. >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release Date: 7/14/2006 >> >> > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/390 - Release Date: 7/17/2006 >

Hi, I recently got a copy of my great grandparents marriage certificate and was surprised to find that they married in the Register's Office in the City of Londonderry rather than in a church. James Brown and Catherine Myles were married in 1875 and lived at Longfield, Parish of Faughanvale. Could anyone help me work out what this means - Under the section with details of names, occupations and where they lived it says - Married in the Register's Office according to the provisions of the 7th & 8th Vic.C.81, & 27 Vic. C. 27 by Certificate me, David Irvine, Registrar. Thanks Marion Fyfe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank McGonigal" <frank017@sympatico.ca> To: <NIR-DERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:17 AM Subject: [Derry] McGonigal > Hi Everyone > Can SKS do a look up for me from the 1831 Londonderry/Derry census index > CD ?? > > I've just received new information that my gr.gr.grandfather Hugh > McGonigal / McGonigle and spelling variants,was born in Londonderry/Derry > about 1816. > > LDS have filmed the census,but there are 4 films which I would have to > troll thru to try and find him. > He was married to Sarah Coyle in Glasgow Scotland according to the 1841 > census of Glasgow,and a poor house application in 1858 it says "Born in > Derry". > The Index as you see below is only available at Salt Lake or I would order > it thru my local FHC. > __1831 census of County Londonderry index FHL BRITISH Library Attendants' > Window ...6342808__ > > Thanks > Frank McGonigal Ont.Canada. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release Date: 7/14/2006 > >

Hello Marion, The numbers and abbreviations you see on the certificate are the numbers of Acts of Parliament. In 1844, the 7 & 8 Vict (for "Victorian") was passed. "c. 81" is the chapter, which is specifically the Marriages (Ireland) Act. This act established compulsory registration of all non-Catholic marriages in Ireland. It provided for the appointment of a registrar general -- you can look upon it as the equivalent of the 1837 date for civil registration in England. The 27 Vict. was passed in 1863, and chapter 27 is the Marriage Law (Ireland) Amendment Act. This law (among other things) introduced the notice procedure for marriage in the office of the registrar. Kathy Judge Nemaric Orlando, Florida -----Original Message----- From: Marion Fyfe [mailto:marioncfyfe@btopenworld.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 7:42 AM To: NIR-DERRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Derry] Derry Marriage Certificate Question Hi, I recently got a copy of my great grandparents marriage certificate and was surprised to find that they married in the Register's Office in the City of Londonderry rather than in a church. James Brown and Catherine Myles were married in 1875 and lived at Longfield, Parish of Faughanvale. Could anyone help me work out what this means - Under the section with details of names, occupations and where they lived it says - Married in the Register's Office according to the provisions of the 7th & 8th Vic.C.81, & 27 Vic. C. 27 by Certificate me, David Irvine, Registrar. Thanks Marion Fyfe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank McGonigal" <frank017@sympatico.ca> To: <NIR-DERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:17 AM Subject: [Derry] McGonigal > Hi Everyone > Can SKS do a look up for me from the 1831 Londonderry/Derry census index > CD ?? > > I've just received new information that my gr.gr.grandfather Hugh > McGonigal / McGonigle and spelling variants,was born in Londonderry/Derry > about 1816. > > LDS have filmed the census,but there are 4 films which I would have to > troll thru to try and find him. > He was married to Sarah Coyle in Glasgow Scotland according to the 1841 > census of Glasgow,and a poor house application in 1858 it says "Born in > Derry". > The Index as you see below is only available at Salt Lake or I would order > it thru my local FHC. > __1831 census of County Londonderry index FHL BRITISH Library Attendants' > Window ...6342808__ > > Thanks > Frank McGonigal Ont.Canada. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release Date: 7/14/2006 > > ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Hi Ron, Thanks for your reply to my query. It has occurred to me that the information on Mary WETHERALL 's marriage certificate is probably more accurate than on her death certificate. The certificate looks very official to me although the copy itself is not a very good one. Could the reason that they were married by licence be something to do with the legality of the ceremony. The certificate reads: SHEDULE G.] Registrar's District of Newton Limivady? 1851 Marriage solemized at Drumchose in the Parish of Drumchose in the Co of Derry 23 (or 25) Jany 28th Mary Wetherall 20 Spinster (residing at) ??vady (father) Thos Wetherall (Rank or Profession) Pensioner John Simpson full Batchelor Bricklayer (residing at) Belfast (father) David Simpson (Rank or Profession) Mason Married in the Drumchose ???? ?? according to the Form and Discipline of the Presbyterian Church by licence by me ????Brown? The witnesses were John Girvan? And James Rodgers. I don't have a lot of additional information apart from the fact that I think that Mary may have had a brother William. The church at Banagher seemed like a good starting point given that the only Thomas WETHERALL'S that I could find at the National Archives seemed to come from there and the link to the surname ROSBOROUGH. I concede however that this could be a co-incidence however I think that there is enough information to warrant some further investigation. I would appreciate it however if you or any one else has any further ideas. How would I go about finding the records for the Church of Ireland. I live in New Zealand and I don't have a lot of money to pay for a professional researcher. Regards, Christine -----Original Message----- From: Ron Dale [mailto:ron.dale@sympatico.ca] Sent: Monday, 17 July 2006 03:11 To: Christine Tregonning; NIR-DERRY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Derry] Wetherall Rosborough Simpson Christine, There are a couple of things to bear in mind with the Pension records: --officers did not receive Pensions from the Chelsea Hospital. --not all pensioners have been entered into the PRO Catalogue searchable database. Another point is that due to the illegality of Presbyterian weddings in the 18th century, you should check out C of I weddings and baptisms in addition to those of the Presbyterian Church. From what I understand, the earliest records for the Banagher Presbyterian Church are 1834. Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Tregonning" <CJTregonning@xtra.co.nz> To: <NIR-DERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 4:57 AM Subject: [Derry] Wetherall Rosborough Simpson > Dear List Members, > > I have joined this list in the hope that someone may be able to help me > with > researching the families of my Great Great Great Grandparents Mary > WETHERALL > and John SIMPSON who according to their respective death certificates were > both born in Newton Limavady about 1830. They were married by licence by > the Presbyterian Church at Drumchose in 1851. > > John SIMPSON 's parents were David SIMPSON and Elizabeth BACON. David > SIMPSON was a Mason. > > According to her marriage certificate Mary WETHERALL 's father was Thomas > WETHERALL. Thomas WETHERALL was a pensioner. Her death certificate > however > gives her father's name as William WEATHERAD and gives his occupation as > Army Officer. Her mother's name is not given. > > John SIMPSON and Mary WETHERALL had the following children: > > William Spence SIMPSON (b.Abt 1852) > Mary Elizabeth SIMPSON (b.Abt 1855-Belfast) > David SIMPSON (b.24 Oct 1856-Anderston,Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland) > Jane Rosborough SIMPSON (b.25 Jul 1858-Anderston,Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland) > John SIMPSON (b.7 Dec 1860-Milton,Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland) > Euphemia Wetherall SIMPSON (b.27 Oct 1862-Govan,Lanark,Scotland) > Thomas Wetherall SIMPSON (b.13 Dec > 1864-Blythswood,Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland) > Euphemia SIMPSON (b.1867 New Zealand) > Edward Bacon SIMPSON (b.1869 New Zealand) > Ellen Mary Stuart SIMPSON (b.28 Oct 1873 New Zealand) > > I found two Thomas WETHERALL s who were Chelsea pensioners at the National > Archives: > > > Item details: WO 121/21/100 > THOMAS WEATHERALL Born BENNACHUR, Londonderry Served in 37th Foot Regiment > Discharged aged 22 after 2 years 6 months of service [PARA]1795 > > Item details: WO 121/169/180 > THOMAS WITHEROW alias THOMAS WEATHERALL Born BANAGHER, Londonderry Served > in > 37th Foot Regiment; 4th Royal Veteran Battalion Discharged aged 42 after 9 > years 4 months of service Residence or place where pension paid stated in > document. See film image 530 [PARA]1809 > > Both of these Thomas s appear to be too old to be the father of Mary > WETHERALL but interestingly enough on the IGI I found a christening for a > Thomas WITHEROW at Drumchose on the 1st September 1817 whose parents were > Thomas WITHEROW and Mary ROSBOROUGH. The surname ROSBOROUGH has been used > as a middle name for one of the children of John SIMPSON and Mary > WETHERALL > so I am thinking that there may be some connection here. > > I understand that there is a Presbyterian Church at Banagher and I am > wondering if there is anyone on this list who may be in a position to > either > have a look at the church records for me or advise me how I can access the > church records so that I may in the first instance confirm whether my Mary > WETHERALL and/or John SIMPSON were christened there and secondly to find > the > details of any siblings or other family members. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Regards, > > Christine > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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The wedding of Mary Wetherall and John Simpson was almost certainly in Drumachose Presbyteian Church. Rev Brown was minister there from Nov 1845 until he retired 1n 1907. This is from Julia Mullin's book Presbytery of Limavady. The index doesn't mention any Wetheralls. If you have a Family History Centre - part of the LDS chuurch (Mormon) near you, you can order and look at microfilm copies of church registers - I believe some are not available. In your shoes I would look at Drumachose Presbyterian, Drumachose C of I, D ,Banagher Pres and Cof I. From my own knowledge of Upper Cumber parish, the names Witherow, Simpson and Rosborough also appear there and some are still there. Below are tithe records and Grifiths Val records, but you may already have checked these.- note there is a specific enty fro a Mary Wetherall in Irish Green. Regarding the National Archives at Kew , they will search for a specific document for you and charge £15 for 15 mins - see under research on their website. www.nationalarchives.gov.uk Since so many of your names appear to concentrate in Banagher it might be worth getting them to copy relevant bits of the file refs you found. Best of luck Rachel Rachel Tithe Records 1832-38 Witherow, Hans County : Londonderry/Derry Parish : Banagher Townland : Aughlish Year : 1826 Witherow, James County : Londonderry/Derry Parish : Banagher Townland : Aughlish Year : 1826 Witherow, Jas. County : Londonderry/Derry Parish : Banagher Townland : Aughlish Year : 1826 Witherow, Jno. County : Londonderry/Derry Parish : Banagher Townland : Aughlish Year : 1826 Witherow, John County : Londonderry/Derry Parish : Clondermot Townland : Lismacarrol Year : 1834 Witherow, Joseph County : Londonderry/Derry Parish : Banagher Townland : Aughlish Year : 1826 Witherow, Saml. County : Londonderry/Derry Parish : Cumber Upper Townland : Kincull Year : 1828 Witherow, Thomas County : Londonderry/Derry Parish : Banagher Townland : Aughlish Year : 1826 Witherow, William, Jr. County : Londonderry/Derry Parish : Banagher Townland : Aughlish Year : 1826 ________________________________________________________ Griffiths 1848-64 Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1848-1864 Witherow, Alex., Sr. County : Londonderry/Derry Parish : Banagher Location : Aughlish Witherow, George County : Londonderry/Derry Parish : Banagher Location : Fincarn Witherow, George County : Londonderry/Derry Parish : Banagher Location : Gallany Witherow, Hugh County : Londonderry/Derry Parish : Banagher Location : Aughlish Witherow, Hugh County : Londonderry/Derry Parish : Banagher Location : Finglen Witherow, Hugh County : Londonderry/Derry Parish : Cumber Upper Location : Alla Upper Witherow, James County : Londonderry/Derry Parish : Banagher Location : Aughlish Comment : Wee Witherow, Jas. County : Londonderry/Derry Parish : Banagher Location : Aughlish Comment : James Witherow, Jas. County : Londonderry/Derry Parish : Banagher Location : Aughlish Comment : Jas. Witherow, Jas. County : Londonderry/Derry Parish : Banagher Location : Aughlish Comment : Wee. Witherow, Jas. County : Londonderry/Derry Parish : Banagher Location : Aughlish Comment : Wm. Witherow, John County : Londonderry/Derry Parish : Banagher Location : Aughlish Witherow, John County : Londonderry/Derry Parish : Desertoghill Location : Bellury Witherow, John County : Londonderry/Derry Parish : Desertoghill Location : Cuilbane Witherow, John County : Londonderry/Derry Parish : Templemore Location : Elaghmore Witherow, John County : Londonderry/Derry Parish : Templemore Location : T/Derry/Francis St. Witherow, Mary County : Londonderry/Derry Parish : Drumachose Location : T/Newtownlimavady/Irish Green Witherow, Robert County : Londonderry/Derry Parish : Errigal Location : Inshaleen Witherow, Thomas County : Londonderry/Derry Parish : Templemore Location : Elaghmore

Dear List Members, I have joined this list in the hope that someone may be able to help me with researching the families of my Great Great Great Grandparents Mary WETHERALL and John SIMPSON who according to their respective death certificates were both born in Newton Limavady about 1830. They were married by licence by the Presbyterian Church at Drumchose in 1851. John SIMPSON 's parents were David SIMPSON and Elizabeth BACON. David SIMPSON was a Mason. According to her marriage certificate Mary WETHERALL 's father was Thomas WETHERALL. Thomas WETHERALL was a pensioner. Her death certificate however gives her father's name as William WEATHERAD and gives his occupation as Army Officer. Her mother's name is not given. John SIMPSON and Mary WETHERALL had the following children: William Spence SIMPSON (b.Abt 1852) Mary Elizabeth SIMPSON (b.Abt 1855-Belfast) David SIMPSON (b.24 Oct 1856-Anderston,Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland) Jane Rosborough SIMPSON (b.25 Jul 1858-Anderston,Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland) John SIMPSON (b.7 Dec 1860-Milton,Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland) Euphemia Wetherall SIMPSON (b.27 Oct 1862-Govan,Lanark,Scotland) Thomas Wetherall SIMPSON (b.13 Dec 1864-Blythswood,Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland) Euphemia SIMPSON (b.1867 New Zealand) Edward Bacon SIMPSON (b.1869 New Zealand) Ellen Mary Stuart SIMPSON (b.28 Oct 1873 New Zealand) I found two Thomas WETHERALL s who were Chelsea pensioners at the National Archives: Item details: WO 121/21/100 THOMAS WEATHERALL Born BENNACHUR, Londonderry Served in 37th Foot Regiment Discharged aged 22 after 2 years 6 months of service [PARA]1795 Item details: WO 121/169/180 THOMAS WITHEROW alias THOMAS WEATHERALL Born BANAGHER, Londonderry Served in 37th Foot Regiment; 4th Royal Veteran Battalion Discharged aged 42 after 9 years 4 months of service Residence or place where pension paid stated in document. See film image 530 [PARA]1809 Both of these Thomas s appear to be too old to be the father of Mary WETHERALL but interestingly enough on the IGI I found a christening for a Thomas WITHEROW at Drumchose on the 1st September 1817 whose parents were Thomas WITHEROW and Mary ROSBOROUGH. The surname ROSBOROUGH has been used as a middle name for one of the children of John SIMPSON and Mary WETHERALL so I am thinking that there may be some connection here. I understand that there is a Presbyterian Church at Banagher and I am wondering if there is anyone on this list who may be in a position to either have a look at the church records for me or advise me how I can access the church records so that I may in the first instance confirm whether my Mary WETHERALL and/or John SIMPSON were christened there and secondly to find the details of any siblings or other family members. Any help would be appreciated. Regards, Christine

Christine, There are a couple of things to bear in mind with the Pension records: --officers did not receive Pensions from the Chelsea Hospital. --not all pensioners have been entered into the PRO Catalogue searchable database. Another point is that due to the illegality of Presbyterian weddings in the 18th century, you should check out C of I weddings and baptisms in addition to those of the Presbyterian Church. From what I understand, the earliest records for the Banagher Presbyterian Church are 1834. Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Tregonning" <CJTregonning@xtra.co.nz> To: <NIR-DERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 4:57 AM Subject: [Derry] Wetherall Rosborough Simpson > Dear List Members, > > I have joined this list in the hope that someone may be able to help me > with > researching the families of my Great Great Great Grandparents Mary > WETHERALL > and John SIMPSON who according to their respective death certificates were > both born in Newton Limavady about 1830. They were married by licence by > the Presbyterian Church at Drumchose in 1851. > > John SIMPSON 's parents were David SIMPSON and Elizabeth BACON. David > SIMPSON was a Mason. > > According to her marriage certificate Mary WETHERALL 's father was Thomas > WETHERALL. Thomas WETHERALL was a pensioner. Her death certificate > however > gives her father's name as William WEATHERAD and gives his occupation as > Army Officer. Her mother's name is not given. > > John SIMPSON and Mary WETHERALL had the following children: > > William Spence SIMPSON (b.Abt 1852) > Mary Elizabeth SIMPSON (b.Abt 1855-Belfast) > David SIMPSON (b.24 Oct 1856-Anderston,Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland) > Jane Rosborough SIMPSON (b.25 Jul 1858-Anderston,Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland) > John SIMPSON (b.7 Dec 1860-Milton,Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland) > Euphemia Wetherall SIMPSON (b.27 Oct 1862-Govan,Lanark,Scotland) > Thomas Wetherall SIMPSON (b.13 Dec > 1864-Blythswood,Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland) > Euphemia SIMPSON (b.1867 New Zealand) > Edward Bacon SIMPSON (b.1869 New Zealand) > Ellen Mary Stuart SIMPSON (b.28 Oct 1873 New Zealand) > > I found two Thomas WETHERALL s who were Chelsea pensioners at the National > Archives: > > > Item details: WO 121/21/100 > THOMAS WEATHERALL Born BENNACHUR, Londonderry Served in 37th Foot Regiment > Discharged aged 22 after 2 years 6 months of service [PARA]1795 > > Item details: WO 121/169/180 > THOMAS WITHEROW alias THOMAS WEATHERALL Born BANAGHER, Londonderry Served > in > 37th Foot Regiment; 4th Royal Veteran Battalion Discharged aged 42 after 9 > years 4 months of service Residence or place where pension paid stated in > document. See film image 530 [PARA]1809 > > Both of these Thomas s appear to be too old to be the father of Mary > WETHERALL but interestingly enough on the IGI I found a christening for a > Thomas WITHEROW at Drumchose on the 1st September 1817 whose parents were > Thomas WITHEROW and Mary ROSBOROUGH. The surname ROSBOROUGH has been used > as a middle name for one of the children of John SIMPSON and Mary > WETHERALL > so I am thinking that there may be some connection here. > > I understand that there is a Presbyterian Church at Banagher and I am > wondering if there is anyone on this list who may be in a position to > either > have a look at the church records for me or advise me how I can access the > church records so that I may in the first instance confirm whether my Mary > WETHERALL and/or John SIMPSON were christened there and secondly to find > the > details of any siblings or other family members. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Regards, > > Christine > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Hi Everyone Can SKS do a look up for me from the 1831 Londonderry/Derry census index CD ?? I've just received new information that my gr.gr.grandfather Hugh McGonigal / McGonigle and spelling variants,was born in Londonderry/Derry about 1816. LDS have filmed the census,but there are 4 films which I would have to troll thru to try and find him. He was married to Sarah Coyle in Glasgow Scotland according to the 1841 census of Glasgow,and a poor house application in 1858 it says "Born in Derry". The Index as you see below is only available at Salt Lake or I would order it thru my local FHC. __1831 census of County Londonderry index FHL BRITISH Library Attendants' Window ...6342808__ Thanks Frank McGonigal Ont.Canada.

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