Good morning listers. This is my introductory posting after having lurked for a few weeks. I'm looking for my great grandfather, Christopher SCOTT born Ireland 1844-1848. Most likely Presbyterian and connected to the flax industry. Father's name Robert Scott. And that's about all I know apart from what happened when he came to England c 1874. I'm trying to find his baptism/birth and I'm struggling badly, so if anyone can help out with this I would be eternally grateful. I did find a Robert Scott and a Christopher Scott close together in Coleraine, which is why I joined this list. Is there anyone with any records who might be able to have a look for him please? or suggest where I might look further? TIA Maggie

Personally, I have had no luck using the phone directory for NIRE surnames & addresses. To some I sent coupons from post office so they could buy stamps for a reply and I have aways given my e-mail address - not one reply over 5+ years of trying. As for doing same for Scotland I have only had one reply and it, luckily, was a distant cousin. Maybe you can have better luck. If they are like some of my USA relatives they would think I was asking too many questions - so none of my business. Is that a trait of the Scots and/or Irish? Jean

Oxford University, Trinity College Dublin and Queens University have published the Y-DNA results for Niall of the Nine Hostages [450 AD] and his descendants. I was wondering if it would serve any purpose to form a list for these people who have done their DNA with these Universities and of course with the folks at Family Tree ?? The eldest son of Niall was Eoghan and those descended from him are referred to as Eoghannaigh. From Niall this would include MacLochlainn, the O'Connors and O'Bryans just to name a few. Sort of a family re-union. Eric

On 9-Oct-06, at 10:11 AM, Barbara Lewis wrote: > Can anyone tell me where I can find a list of what Pres. or Ch of > I church records are available for Dungiven? > > Barbara L. The Presbyterian Church of Ireland presents a listing of its historical records at: http://www.presbyterianireland.org/about/records.html Most of these can be seen, on microfilm copy, at the PRONI in Belfast. http://www.proni.gov.uk/records/private/presindx.htm The PRONI shows a list of the CofI parish records, available for viewing on microfilm, at their office, at: http://www.proni.gov.uk/records/private/cofiindx.htm Best wishes, Alison Kilpatrick Annapolis Valley, Nova Scotia

Can anyone tell me where I can find a list of what Pres. or Ch of I church records are available for Dungiven? Barbara L.

The web has been promoted as a tremendous boost to free Irish Family History information but the possible role of telephone data in a similar context gets little mention. Suppose one wanted to trace from the UK possible living relatives of an ancestor called McGeever from County Donegal. Entering the name and the County at the URL http://159.134.203.172/search.asp?source=Eircom provides 40 hits with addresses and telephone numbers. Parish Maps of County Donegal are available at the URL http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~bhilchey/DonegalMain.html so it is possible to build up a population density map of McGeevers currently living in the various Parishes and townlands in the County (and provide an indication of which Parish and Townland your ancestor originated from). The same could be done in a search involving counties Antrim and Derry The aim would be to contact all 40 McGeevers and possible find one who is a Family History enthusiast or at least has a wide knowledge of the clan. Writing to Irish contacts has traditionally been rather a disappointment as the folk at home are very reluctant to put pen to paper. So why not give them a bell - the Irish love to talk? Very expensive you will reply - but is it? My UK "Talk Talk" telephone bill is so full of zero charges that I have difficulty finding a charged call outside "mobile phones" "special numbers" and "overseas calls". But that only covers Northern Ireland - calls to the Republic still cost. However if one registers with www.call1899.co.uk the call rate to The Republic of Ireland (and vice versa) is only 1p per minute - http://www.call1899.co.uk/rates.php. See also http://www.call13434.ie/rates.php for the rates from Ireland to the UK (0.5 ct/minute). A ten minute talk from the UK with each of the 40 Donegal McGeevers would cost only (where's my calculator) £4. I recently organised a Family Reunion in Ireland with a church service and a meal at an hotel for 270 friends and relatives at a relatively close to zero telephone cost. This procedure would be an ideal prologue to any folk planning a visit to Ireland, as opposed to the subsequent traditional - possibly more enjoyable but probably less effective - tour of the local pubs. It should be feasible to get the e-mail addresses of interested McGeevers and use the completely free services of Skype - see the URL http://www.skype.com/download/ which allows free internet telephone calls to most countries in the World. Google also plan to introduce internet telephone calling soon see the URL http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1454225,00.html Are there services such as www.1899.co.uk which currently allow very low cost foreign calls available in other countries such as Australia, New Zealand, Canada and the USA? Liam "A bird in the bush is worth two in the cat"

Hi All, Still looking for my Grandfather and wife, Desertmartin Parish. Robert McLean and wife McKeown, Robert would have been born about 1875 and had 4 sons as far as I can make out. Any info appreciated. Regards Alan

Thanks to all who replied to me re. Castledawson. I am searching for a John Paul who emigrated to New Brunswick Canada. His tombstone in St. Croix cemetery, York Co., N.B. says : "John Paul / Native of Castledawson, Ireland / d. 11 Jan 1886 ae [62/7] yrs 6 mos." Is anyone else researching the Paul family? Joyce Stephens Kittery, Maine

On 26-Sep-06, at 11:47 PM, JOYCE STEPHENS wrote: > Hi Folks, > Does anyone know which parish Castledawson is in? > Thanks, > Joyce ... Checked at www.seanruad.com, and it appears that Castle Dawson is in Magherafelt parish. ac

Hi Folks, Does anyone know which parish Castledawson is in? Thanks, Joyce

I'm making another plea for information on the marriage and/or parents of Arthur MCCLELLAND and Annie ERWIN, married in Ireland about 1810, migrated to Wigtownshire, Scotland and raised their family there: Margaret, John, Alexander, William, and Mary.... I have no idea where in Ulster they are from, but the Erwins (Irwin) were from Derry......we know that they went back and forth between Scotland and Ireland... Both were born about 1785 in Ireland I'm making a trip to Ireland in 2 weeks and would love to find a clue before I go.... Barbara Mcclelland Lewis

Seeking information on Kelly from Dungiven , some members of the family came to Scotland about 1900. Raymond Kelly

I am new to the list and am asking for assistance and suggestions with the Brewster (also spelled Bruster) surname. I am specifically interested in the siblings and parents of James Brewster who is said to have been born near Coleraine Londonderry about 1720. He came to America as a young man, and probably married in America, but possibly in Ireland. His wife was Eleanor Williamson. James Brewster was in Augusta County (later Rockingham County) Virginia by the mid-1700s, but he may have been in Pennsylvania prior to that. His daughter Agnes married William Alexander in Rockingham County in Nov. 1785. Shortly after their marriage, they, James and Eleanor and William's parents along with several other related families, moved to Jessamine and Fayette Counties in Kentucky. James died there in 1808 and Eleanor died there in 1813. According to a passage in a book published in 1915, James Brewster and James Dunn were lifelong friends, living "three miles from Coloraine, County Londonderry ... [they] lived within a mile of each other in Ireland, within a half mile in Virginia, died and were buried near each other in Jessamine County, Kentucky." This same writer claims that he has consulted a genealogist who stated that "Their antecedents [James Brewster and James Dunn] were in Ireland at least a hundred years before they were born in the same locality." The Brewster and Dunn families intermarried in America through several generations. Other common family name connections are Campbell, Doak, Alexander, and Irwin/Erwin. It seems that the Brewster family was Protestant, possibly Presbyterian, but that is not proven. I have several documents from both Virginia and Kentucky to establish James and Eleanor Williamson Brewster in those localities during specific time frames. I have considerable information on the descendants of James Dunn, James Brewster and William Alexander which I am happy to share. I would be appreciative of information on James Brewster's siblings and parents as well as suggestions for research to locate them in Irish records. Thanks, Connie Connie Shotts North Carolina

This morning on the Brisbane News service, it was announced that Steve Irwin's memorial service will be held on Wednesady 20 September at 9 am Eastern Australian Time. The serevice will last about 40 minutes they said and will be held at Australian Zoo for some 5,000 people to attend. Two of our TV Stations will be braodacsting it live. They said it will be going to America and other overseas countries, but did not mention what those arrangements are. It may be those stations that have showed his shows previously, so you could make some inquiries, IF THEY ARE GOING TO SHOW IT AND WHAT TIME. Mike Boyd Brisbane

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My grandmother was a Tosh and her family lived in Ballybogey. Could there be a connection here? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Castys" <castys@verizon.net> To: <NIR-DERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 4:02 PM Subject: [Derry] Tosh: USA, Possibly Coleraine > Have been searching my TOSH line in the states for some time now and have > hit a brick wall. I need some help and am not sure of how to proceed. . . > if at all. So if SKS could review the facts below and offer suggestions > I'd be most grateful. > > 1. William TOSH married Bridget JONES at St. Anne Shandon Parish in Cork > City April 1850. > 2. Our family has always "heard" our Tosh's came from Donegal to the US. > 3. I found a William TOSH in Donegal, Lower Moville, Townland of > Carrowbeg in Griffith's Valuation Jan 1858 (he emigrated to the US Oct > 1858). > > 4. William Tosh had a son "born in Ireland" and listed in a US census > born Feb 21 either 1851 or 1856 (Census records conflict on the year). > > As I look at the distribution of the name Tosh it is clearly most > concentrated in Derry area not Cork or Donegal, so he must have moved > around a bit (he was listed as a miner, not a soldier on his marrige > certificate). I am working with the presumption his main family was in > Derry. > > Interestingly, when he did move to the US to become a coal miner in NE > Pennsylvania, the tiny town he moved to was adjacent to an equally tiny > town called Coleraine, Pennsylvania! > > Hence, as thin as it might be. . . . .I'm wondering if his family was from > Coleraine or Derry more generally. Now you see my brick wall so to speak. > How do I find William Sr or Jr in Ireland and, if I did find them, how to > go back from there? > > Can anyone offer suggested ways forward? Most appreciative, > > Frank > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

In the Rev. Mullin's book 'Families of Ballyrashane" there is a Stephenson Tosh of Crumpa (Dunboe Parish) listed. He married Jane Campbell of Crumpa in 1841 in Second Dunboe. Could there be a connection--possibly a brother? Regards, Loretta Daly, Newmarket, ON, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Parkes" <r.a.parkes@btinternet.com> To: <NIR-DERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 4:19 AM Subject: Re: [Derry] Tosh: USA, Possibly Coleraine > Hey Frank, > > Good news first: > From 1831 census for Coleraine > Tosh, Robert > Tosh, William > > Bad news is that that is the only type of data - the heads of house - > remaining from that census. The census returns no longer exist. > > There are no TOSH listed for Coleraine in Griffith's valuation of the > 1860s. > > > Here's another reference for you: > > From Coleraine Chronicle death notices > > Issue of 4 March 1865 > TOSH, William > "At his residence in Porter Twp, Clarion County, PA, America, on the 19th > December, Mr. William Tosh, sen, in the 73rd year of his age. Mr Tosh was > born in the Parish of Dunboe, Coleraine, County Londonderry, and emigrated > to America May 12th, 1846." > > My MANN lot are from Portrush, my RAFFERTY lot from Coleraine. I have no > Tosh connections. I am not aware of any mines or mining activities in the > Coleraine area. > > Good luck with your searches. > Norman (Ruth's husband) > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Hey Frank, Good news first: From 1831 census for Coleraine Tosh, Robert Tosh, William Bad news is that that is the only type of data - the heads of house - remaining from that census. The census returns no longer exist. There are no TOSH listed for Coleraine in Griffith's valuation of the 1860s. Here's another reference for you: From Coleraine Chronicle death notices Issue of 4 March 1865 TOSH, William "At his residence in Porter Twp, Clarion County, PA, America, on the 19th December, Mr. William Tosh, sen, in the 73rd year of his age. Mr Tosh was born in the Parish of Dunboe, Coleraine, County Londonderry, and emigrated to America May 12th, 1846." My MANN lot are from Portrush, my RAFFERTY lot from Coleraine. I have no Tosh connections. I am not aware of any mines or mining activities in the Coleraine area. Good luck with your searches. Norman (Ruth's husband)

Have been searching my TOSH line in the states for some time now and have hit a brick wall. I need some help and am not sure of how to proceed. . . if at all. So if SKS could review the facts below and offer suggestions I'd be most grateful. 1. William TOSH married Bridget JONES at St. Anne Shandon Parish in Cork City April 1850. 2. Our family has always "heard" our Tosh's came from Donegal to the US. 3. I found a William TOSH in Donegal, Lower Moville, Townland of Carrowbeg in Griffith's Valuation Jan 1858 (he emigrated to the US Oct 1858). 4. William Tosh had a son "born in Ireland" and listed in a US census born Feb 21 either 1851 or 1856 (Census records conflict on the year). As I look at the distribution of the name Tosh it is clearly most concentrated in Derry area not Cork or Donegal, so he must have moved around a bit (he was listed as a miner, not a soldier on his marrige certificate). I am working with the presumption his main family was in Derry. Interestingly, when he did move to the US to become a coal miner in NE Pennsylvania, the tiny town he moved to was adjacent to an equally tiny town called Coleraine, Pennsylvania! Hence, as thin as it might be. . . . .I'm wondering if his family was from Coleraine or Derry more generally. Now you see my brick wall so to speak. How do I find William Sr or Jr in Ireland and, if I did find them, how to go back from there? Can anyone offer suggested ways forward? Most appreciative, Frank

Anyone with information on Colonel Thompson, formerly commanding officer of the 96th Regiment at Dumdum and Dinapore, West Bengal, (East) India -- his daughter, Mary Hannah (Poppy) Thompson (born ca. 1854, died 22 February 1894) was married to Dr Hamilton Mitchell, the "Brigade Surgeon of Londonderry"? Dr and Mrs Hamilton Mitchell lived at Lanowlee, Clooney Road, Waterside, Londonderry. Many thanks David Mitchell Cape Town South Africa