I was just been exchanging Emails with a group of Smith researcher over the Email I sent a few days on various families of Templemore Parish. And it was suggested that I poste the website to the whole Net group http://www.geocities.com/jameson-one/ArgyleJamesons.txt It mainly covers an Jameson family. The article said these group of families came from Arygllshire - but did not say where although it did suggest hat some came from the Isle of Bute - in the early 1600's. It later moves onto the 1718 migration of presbyterians under Rev McGregor of Aghadowey in eastern Co Londonderry to New Hampshire in America. Hopefully it will help ohters to make connections Mike Boyd Brisbane

Hi Connie, The "Par Dumbos"appears to me to be an abbreviation of "Parish of Dumbo???" Have you made any attempt to look up the Townland or Civil Parishes of Coleraine. A helpful site I have used is: http://www.Leitrim-roscommon.com/index.shtml Scroll down to IreAtlas Townland Database, you may find the civil parish listed under one of the Coleraine townlands,cheers Leo.

Use the multimap facility at the URL www.multimap.com and enter the name Articlave. When the town Articlave appears (between Coleraine and Portrush) you will find Dunboe House South East on on the A2 road. At the URL http://www.presbyterianireland.org/congregations/dunboe1.html the First Dunboe Presbyterian church is described, dating from 1650. You could write or telephone to the minister Rev. James A. McCaughan Telephone: (028) 7084 8276 2 St. Paul's Road, Articlave, Coleraine, Co. Londonderry Liam http://www.catalert.com "A bird in the bush is worth two in the cat" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Connie Shotts" <cshotts1@carolina.rr.com> To: "'Liam Martin'" <L.Martin@zen.co.uk> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 12:42 AM Subject: RE: [NIR-DERRY] Location of Coleraine, Par Dumbos, County Derry, Ireland >>I have found a reference to the above location as the birth place of James >> Brewster/Bruster about 1720. Can anyone tell me if Par Dumbos is a >> village, >> a parish, or what? Does it exist today? Is there a Protestant church in >> the area that would have been in existence in 1720? I had no luck with a >> Google search and I have been unable to contact the person who posted >> this >> information, so I have not been able to verify it. I am wondering if it >> is >> an actual location? >> >> Thanks for any help, ideas or suggestions. >> >> >> >> Connie Shotts >> >> North Carolina >> >> cshotts1@carolina.rr.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NIR-DERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.19/555 - Release Date: >> 27/11/2006 >> >> > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.19/556 - Release Date: > 28/11/2006 > >

Connie The way you have written it, would suggest that it one of the Churches within Coleraine. When I was there last year, I think there was 5 Presbyterian Church and 4 Church of Ireland Church and I assume a RC or two as well. If no one can give you an answer contact the Coleraine Tourist Information Centre on Email colerainetic@btconnect.com and see if they can direct to you someone. Mike Boyd Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Connie Shotts" <cshotts1@carolina.rr.com> To: <NIR-DERRY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 8:34 AM Subject: [NIR-DERRY] Location of Coleraine, Par Dumbos, County Derry, Ireland >I have found a reference to the above location as the birth place of James > Brewster/Bruster about 1720. Can anyone tell me if Par Dumbos is a > village, > a parish, or what? Does it exist today? Is there a Protestant church in > the area that would have been in existence in 1720? I had no luck with a > Google search and I have been unable to contact the person who posted this > information, so I have not been able to verify it. I am wondering if it > is > an actual location? > > Thanks for any help, ideas or suggestions. > > > > Connie Shotts > > North Carolina > > cshotts1@carolina.rr.com > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: Laurie Thompson To: Boyd Gray Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:04 AM Subject: Fw: [NIR-DERRY] Templemore Max. Thanks . Do you know exactly where the Templemore church is and where the records are . Laurie ----- Original Message ----- From: Max To: Laurie Thompson Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 7:24 AM Subject: Re: [NIR-DERRY] Templemore Hello Laurie My G G Grandmother was married in the Templemore church Londonderry here is a link to Templemore http://www.from-ireland.net/lewis/derry/templemore.htm Max

To Ron--Rita and Al . Thankyou for replying , I will digest your info for I now have a lot of info as to where my John McCorkell was born 1803 Templemore , which centre around the liberties area but no definate evidence to say "That is my John" . Now at least I know there is an area and town called Templemore . Regards from Australia Laurie Thompson ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Dale To: Rita Chesterton ; Laurie Thompson ; NIR-DERRY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [NIR-DERRY] Templemore Griffith's Valuation shows a John McCorkle in Eastballymore, Templemore North Ward, Londonderry. Ron Dale

Leo's note makes the most sense: Parish of Dunboe. Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leo McKEEFRY" <leo.mary@clear.net.nz> To: "Connie Shotts" <cshotts1@carolina.rr.com>; <NIR-DERRY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:06 AM Subject: Re: [NIR-DERRY] Location of Coleraine, Par Dumbos, County Derry, Ireland > Hi Connie, > The "Par Dumbos"appears to me to be an abbreviation of > "Parish of Dumbo???" Have you made any attempt to look up the Townland or > Civil Parishes of Coleraine. A helpful site I have used is: > http://www.Leitrim-roscommon.com/index.shtml > Scroll down to IreAtlas Townland Database, you may find the civil parish > listed under one of the Coleraine townlands,cheers Leo. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Coleraine had three Presbyterian Congregations: 1st Coleraine; New Row and Terrace Row. Not far from Coleraine were the congregations of 1st Dunboe and 2nd Dunboe Presbyterian in, respectively. These are respectively in the parishes of Dunboe and Formoyle. The word "Par" is often used to mean "near" from the French word for "by." Therefore, Par Dumbo is quite likely "par Dunboe or "near Dunboe." Ron Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Boyd" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> To: "Connie Shotts" <cshotts1@carolina.rr.com>; <NIR-DERRY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 7:31 PM Subject: Re: [NIR-DERRY] Location of Coleraine, Par Dumbos, County Derry,Ireland > Connie > The way you have written it, would suggest that it one of the Churches > within Coleraine. > > When I was there last year, I think there was 5 Presbyterian Church and 4 > Church of Ireland Church and I assume a RC or two as well. > > If no one can give you an answer contact the Coleraine Tourist Information > Centre on Email colerainetic@btconnect.com and see if they can direct to > you > someone. > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Connie Shotts" <cshotts1@carolina.rr.com> > To: <NIR-DERRY@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 8:34 AM > Subject: [NIR-DERRY] Location of Coleraine, Par Dumbos, County Derry, > Ireland > > >>I have found a reference to the above location as the birth place of James >> Brewster/Bruster about 1720. Can anyone tell me if Par Dumbos is a >> village, >> a parish, or what? Does it exist today? Is there a Protestant church in >> the area that would have been in existence in 1720? I had no luck with a >> Google search and I have been unable to contact the person who posted >> this >> information, so I have not been able to verify it. I am wondering if it >> is >> an actual location? >> >> Thanks for any help, ideas or suggestions. >> >> >> >> Connie Shotts >> >> North Carolina >> >> cshotts1@carolina.rr.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NIR-DERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is it possibly Dunboe Parish (Par. Dunboe), which is near Coleraine. Connie Shotts wrote: > I have found a reference to the above location as the birth place of James > Brewster/Bruster about 1720. Can anyone tell me if Par Dumbos is a village, > a parish, or what? Does it exist today? Is there a Protestant church in > the area that would have been in existence in 1720? I had no luck with a > Google search and I have been unable to contact the person who posted this > information, so I have not been able to verify it. I am wondering if it is > an actual location? > > Thanks for any help, ideas or suggestions. > > > > Connie Shotts > > North Carolina > > cshotts1@carolina.rr.com > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hello Laurie, The Flax Growers bounty of 1796 lists William, Andrew, Thomas and Alexander McCorkell in Londonderry. There are few McCorkles (or variations of the name) in Derry in the 1831 census and all are within a spit of Londonderry. Those from Templemore included Andrew, Richard, Thomas, Mary and William all of whom would have been lease holders--eg heads of households. Mary was likely a widow. The census return itself lists the numbers of people in the household and their religion. The John of the later Griffith's valuation could have been the son of one of these McCorkells. Once you find the religion, you could seek the parish records which I am finding are quite prolific for Derry. For the RC's and the Church of Ireland, the Parish is known as Templemore. For the Presbyterians (or Dissenters) there were a number of congregations--Ballyamett, outside of the city of Londonderry and 4 parishes within Londonderry: 1st Derry; 2nd Derry or Strand; 3rd Derry or Great James' Street; and 4th Derry or Carlisle Road. One of the Derry McCorkells who emigrated to the States was a Presbyterian Minister and I would guess that was their religion. There are some McCorkle references in the St Columb Cathedral, Londonderry, the big C of I church there. The earliest reference is to Adam, son of Andrew McCorkle and Mary his wife, baptised on December 14, 1715. The Public Record Office of Northern Ireland microfilmed the 22 volumes of St Columb church records in 1960. These records cover the period 1642-1876. During the 18th century, when Catholics and Presbyterians were persecuted, many Presbyterians had the sacraments performed in Church of Ireland facilities. I would look here for your people. Ron Dale

I have found a reference to the above location as the birth place of James Brewster/Bruster about 1720. Can anyone tell me if Par Dumbos is a village, a parish, or what? Does it exist today? Is there a Protestant church in the area that would have been in existence in 1720? I had no luck with a Google search and I have been unable to contact the person who posted this information, so I have not been able to verify it. I am wondering if it is an actual location? Thanks for any help, ideas or suggestions. Connie Shotts North Carolina cshotts1@carolina.rr.com

Hi Mike . My John McCorkell said he was born 1803 in Templemore . He had a leadlight insert put in his Melbourne Australia front door with Templemore and told everone that is where I was born . I also have looked for the town of Templemore but now think it is the parish of Templemore . Laurie When I looked at my map of Ireland, I could not find Templemore, Co > Londonderry so I had assumed it was suburb of Londonderry City. However > now after rereading the article I am not sure if it is Church area. Can > someone tell me where Templemore is please?

Griffith's Valuation shows a John McCorkle in Eastballymore, Templemore North Ward, Londonderry. Ron Dale

Yes, Templemore is a parish in the city of Londonderry/Derry. St. Columba's Long Tower is the Roman Catholic church there, and St. Columb's Cathedral is the Protestant church. -Rita in NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurie Thompson" <lt030329@bigpond.net.au> To: <NIR-DERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 3:03 PM Subject: [NIR-DERRY] Templemore > Hi Mike . My John McCorkell said he was born 1803 in Templemore . He had a > leadlight insert put in his Melbourne Australia front door with Templemore > and told everone that is where I was born . I also have looked for the > town of Templemore but now think it is the parish of Templemore . Laurie > > When I looked at my map of Ireland, I could not find Templemore, Co >> Londonderry so I had assumed it was suburb of Londonderry City. However >> now after rereading the article I am not sure if it is Church area. Can >> someone tell me where Templemore is please? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Have a look at this page - http://www.from-ireland.net/lewis/derry/templemore.htm Also note that there is a link to a partial listing of Templemore heads of household from the 1901 census, and there is a John J. Boyd on Fountain Street. Also, this map of Derry parishes from www.ireland.com shows where Templemore is: http://tinyurl.com/y768f3 Kathy Judge Nemaric Researching BROWN and JUDGE - Magherafelt, Londonderry ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> Date: Monday, November 27, 2006 1:19 pm Subject: [NIR-DERRY] Fw: Boyd of Templemore Co. Londonderry To: NIR-DERRY@rootsweb.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Boyd" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> > To: <NIR-DERRY@rootsweb.com>; <BOYD@rootsbweb> > Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 9:58 AM > Subject: Boyd of Templemore Co. Londonderry > > > > Last year I was sent a 45 page article on the Jameson's which > said:- > > > > "Mr. Jameson resided in Templemore, County Londonderry (see > Family > > Archives-Regional Locations for breakdown of City. Londonderry). > Among > > these early families that settled in Londonderry and its vicinity > were the > > Smiths, Boyds, Cargills, and Cochranes, and our family as well > all leaving > > Scotland to emigrant to Ulster in the early part of the century. > They all > > left from Argyleshire and were involved with the Clan Steward, > many of > > whom resided on the Isle of Bute. " > > > > This related to the early 1600's. > > > > When I looked at my map of Ireland, I could not find Templemore, > Co > > Londonderry so I had assumed it was suburb of Londonderry City. > However > > now after rereading the article I am not sure if it is Church > area. Can > > someone tell me where Templemore is please? > > > > Secondly I am interested in the Boyds of Templemore - this is the > first > > reference I have seen of this Boyd family. Its origins form > Argyllshire > > is also new as this is the first time that any reference to a > Boyd family > > in pre 1600 in Argyllshire has been found (but I will have to > join another > > group to follow that up). > > > > So if you have any details of these Boyd of Templemore, I would > be most > > grateful so that Branch can be added to the Clan Boyd Pyramid. > > > > > > > > Mike Boyd > > > > Chairman > > > > Historical Committee > > > > House of Boyd Society > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DERRY- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Gabrielle Have you tried contacting the Library at Londonderry City? I was there in 2005 and they had quite a section of the Seige of 1689. So they may be able to tell you more about Captain Browning's family, etc Mike Boyd Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabrielle Baker" <gbake@unimelb.edu.au> To: <NIR-DERRY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 9:29 AM Subject: [NIR-DERRY] Browning > Hi, > > I'm looking for information about the family of Michael Browning, > captain of the ship Mountjoy that broke the boom during the seige of > Derry in 1689. According to a tree published on the web, Capt > Browning is one of my ancestors. The person who owns the tree has > yet to reply to my email, and his sources are not cited on the > webpage. I have tried looking into other sources on the web to > corroborate this tree, to no avail. It's funny as I thought that > there must be something on Familysearch at least, he is the type of > figure to have genealogists fall over themselves trying to claim him > for their trees. One source I looked at said that the poet Robert > Browning wanted to establish a link between himself and Captain > Browning which was supposedly proved. I have not been able to find > this tree either. Any assistance gratefully received. > > regards > > > Gabrielle Baker > Melbourne Australia > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I'm looking for information about the family of Michael Browning, captain of the ship Mountjoy that broke the boom during the seige of Derry in 1689. According to a tree published on the web, Capt Browning is one of my ancestors. The person who owns the tree has yet to reply to my email, and his sources are not cited on the webpage. I have tried looking into other sources on the web to corroborate this tree, to no avail. It's funny as I thought that there must be something on Familysearch at least, he is the type of figure to have genealogists fall over themselves trying to claim him for their trees. One source I looked at said that the poet Robert Browning wanted to establish a link between himself and Captain Browning which was supposedly proved. I have not been able to find this tree either. Any assistance gratefully received. regards Gabrielle Baker Melbourne Australia

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Boyd" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> To: <NIR-DERRY@rootsweb.com>; <BOYD@rootsbweb> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 9:58 AM Subject: Boyd of Templemore Co. Londonderry > Last year I was sent a 45 page article on the Jameson's which said:- > > "Mr. Jameson resided in Templemore, County Londonderry (see Family > Archives-Regional Locations for breakdown of City. Londonderry). Among > these early families that settled in Londonderry and its vicinity were the > Smiths, Boyds, Cargills, and Cochranes, and our family as well all leaving > Scotland to emigrant to Ulster in the early part of the century. They all > left from Argyleshire and were involved with the Clan Steward, many of > whom resided on the Isle of Bute. " > > This related to the early 1600's. > > When I looked at my map of Ireland, I could not find Templemore, Co > Londonderry so I had assumed it was suburb of Londonderry City. However > now after rereading the article I am not sure if it is Church area. Can > someone tell me where Templemore is please? > > Secondly I am interested in the Boyds of Templemore - this is the first > reference I have seen of this Boyd family. Its origins form Argyllshire > is also new as this is the first time that any reference to a Boyd family > in pre 1600 in Argyllshire has been found (but I will have to join another > group to follow that up). > > So if you have any details of these Boyd of Templemore, I would be most > grateful so that Branch can be added to the Clan Boyd Pyramid. > > > > Mike Boyd > > Chairman > > Historical Committee > > House of Boyd Society >

Dear Listers The University of Ulster, Magee College Campus maintains an excellent on-line free image library on Derry including pictures of The Wells http://www.infm.ulst.ac.uk/mcc/index.htm Also some pics of old Derry can be found at Eamon Melaugh's website http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/melaugh/gallery.htm There are also of old Derry photograph/local history books being published by local authors. If you cannot source these, try googling online for Bookworm Bookshop Derry. Mark Lusby www.lusbyfamilyhistory.com

I have done some redearch at the National Archives in Kew in London on a RA officer around the same period as your John Bog or Boggs. It is very difficult in this time period to find anything and it is not helped by the fact that the Royal Artillery came under the Board of Ordnance and not the War Office which most other army units came under. This site gives a very brief history http://www.army.mod.uk/royalartillery/history.htm. You do not say if he was an officer but if he was not an officer, I do remember finding some muster rolls in NAO. The other place that helped me enormously was the Royal Artillery Museum. http://www.firepower.org.uk/ This was 4 or 5 years ago and their library did send me details for a small fee. They now appear to expect people to do their own research. However you might find the detailed list of books helpful. I've checked the NA catalogue and nothing comes up for a close match to your Boggs or similar name. www.nationalarchives.gov.uk I also checked the wills on line at the NA (most officers were required to make a will). There was a will for a Ninian Boggs of Londonderry, Gentleman. 1813 I mention it in case he might be a relative. PCC Wills pre 1858 which are on the same site. Click on Documents on line. As someone has suggested your best bet might be to hire a researcher at NA. Rachel ---- Original Message ----- From: "Frances Lee" <frances@mayleecat.com> To: "Jenni Gibson" <gibledine@yahoo.com.au> Cc: <NIR-DERRY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [NIR-DERRY] Daly family, Londonderry, Irealnd > Dear Listers > > My 4x g-grandparents JOHN BOG and SARAH MORGAN married in St. Columb > Cathedral, Londonderry in 1746. They had a son JOHN BOGG or BOGGS born 8th > November 1757 but we don't know where! He also died 3rd August 1826 but we > don't know where! He was in the British Royal Artillery and was sent to > Canada where there is a record of JOHN BOGGS marrying DEBORAH DUFF KING > at > Quebec in 1788. There are no other records for this family in Quebec! > > Did his parents JOHN BOG and SARAH MORGAN emigrate to Canada at some time? > > Are there any records of JOHN BOGGS birth in Ireland or death at the above > dates? > > This is my brick wall. Can anyone help? > > Frances >