I am learning about my family roots from Derry and really would like to learn more about the history of the country. Can someone point me to some good websites to give timelines from 1800-present and some good history websites of Derry? Thanks in advance, Mary --------------------------------- Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games.

My great-grandfather is James Neill. All the information I have is he was married in Balteagh Parish on 27 Aug.,1895 to Margaret Gordon. His place of residence at the time was Maine (doesn't say North or South) and hers was Ballyleighery (don't know Upper or Lower). BTW, their last name was spelled "Neil" on the certificate. My grandfather, also James Neill, was born in Coleraine in 1898. The entire family emigrated to Nova Scotia around 1913-14. Must have added the extra "l" at this time. If anyone could point me in a direction to find either James, Margaret, or even just tell me know in what area Maine and Ballyleighery are located I would appreciate it. Thank you Jim Neill

Would like to locate family for a Henry Brown born 1787, in Derry, and who belonged to the Magherfelt Masonic Lodge #440. I have the proof of this. He married a Elizabeth Murphy in 1822. She was born 1779. They relocated to Canada, Henry coming first I believe. The family story goes that he was given an allowance every so often so maybe was from a well-to-do family. Their headstones read native of County Antrim but the history says born in Derry so have no way of knowing which is correct. Any help will be very much appreciated. Lyn from Manitoba

This is a note I just read on Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter: In recognition of St. Patrick's Day, the New England Historic Genealogical Society is offering access to its Irish databases free to the public for a limited time. Access will most likely be available through Wednesday, March 21, 2007. The free offerings include: * An Hibernian Atlas; or General Description of the Kingdom of Ireland * Protestant Housekeepers in Counties Antrim, Derry, Donegal, and Londonderry, Ireland - 1740 * Index to the Marriage Licence Bonds of the Diocese of Cloyne, Ireland * The Search for Missing Friends: Irish Immigrant Advertisements placed in The Boston Pilot 1831-1920 (this is an excellent resource, often offering references to Irish emigrants worldwide) * Constitution, By-Laws, and History of the Charitable Irish Society of Boston You can obtain more information or access the databases directly at http://www.NewEnglandAncestors.org Enjoy! Kathy Judge Nemaric

Dear List Members, Is there anyone who can help me with either Monumental Inscriptions or perhaps burial records from the Presbyterian Church at Drumachose. I am looking for information about the SIMPSON family who were builders or bricklayers from Newton Limavady. I have extracted the following names for the parish of Drumachose from the Griffiths Valuation: Simpson John Tirmaquin Simpson James Pound Lane, Newtownlimavady Simpson David Coach Rd, Newtownlimavady Simpson David Drumramer Simpson Alexander Main St, Newtownlimavady I also have the following information about the my SIMPSON family: David SIMPSON born about 1801 was married to Elizabeth BACON. Elizabeth died some time before 1861. David and Elizabeth had at least two sons John born about 1829 at Newtown Limavady and James born about 1840. I presume that there may have been other children. David’s father may also have been named James but I have yet to confirm this. I know that John born about 1829 died in New Zealand in 1885. As these names seem to tie in with those from the Griffiths Valuation it seems likely that this is the same family. Can anyone tell me what date the Griffiths Valuation would be as I just have the broad range of 1848 to 1864 and it would be useful to have a definite date. Any help would be appreciated. Regards, Christine

Greetings from Sunny Texas, We recently discovered our Archibald Johnston/e living with his married daughter, Nelly Patterson, in Manitoba, CANADA. Fortunately before his death in January of 1902 the census enumerator recorded in 1901 the following: Archie Johnstone, born September 14, 1815, Age 86. We have his name in Ontario as Archibald Johnston although the 1881 census lists him as "Johnstone" too. We know from oral family history and another census that he was born in Ireland. We are not sure of where though. Oral family histories from various sources give Counties Antrim, Derry, Down, Cork, Fermanagh and Meath. If anyone has any information on Archie we would appreciate hearing from you. Good hunting, Cliff. Johnston "May the best you've ever seen, Be the worst you'll ever see;" from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay

Marion I have tried to Email a few weeks ago but as I have not heard from you I am not sure if my message got through to you. I will be leaving home at noon Wednesday 7 March and will get to Fenwich - from Ireland - on 22 March and leave on Wednesday 4 April 2007. I would like to be able to come an see you. I have Saturday 24 March and Sunday 1 April free at this stage, as I assume during the week is out for you. I will be staying at Nancy Cuthbertson's B&B at West Trannarrieff, Fenwick (Sorry, I do not have phone or Email). So if you do not get this before Wednesday noon Brisbane time could you leave a message there for me please if you have time for me to visit. Mike Boyd Brisbane

Alison, I would have a strong interest in purchasing CD's such as described below. I looked on the website but I am still unclear about what is on the CD's. Would this be the complete text of the above named newspaper? I am looking for obituraries and death notices of my ancestors and wonder if they might be on the CD. The website seemed to indicate that the CD's had records of births. Would this be from Catholic parishes? _______________________________________________ If I may say a few words, please, in support of the Coleraine branch of the North of Ireland Family History Society. The people who compiled these CDs are volunteers, trying to raise funds for their non-profit organization. I would encourage/urge everyone interested in benefiting from these volunteers' efforts to visit the Coleraine branch's web site at: http://www.coleraine-nifhs.org.uk/ ... and click on the "Projects" tab, to learn how to purchase your very own copies of these CDs. Really, the prices are very reasonable, considering the effort that has gone into them. Your opportunity cost would be to go to Ireland to look in the records yourselves or to purchase the microfilms @ 90 pounds each. Please, let's be fair and respectful of this group's work. If they get wind that lookups are being performed, with no fair exchange returned to their society, they --and others like them-- will be discouraged from undertaking these very useful and very expensive (financial, as well as time) projects. Best regards, Alison Kilpatrick Annapolis Valley, Nova Scotia --------------------------------- Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Yahoo! Answers. Try it now.

Hello, all. If I may say a few words, please, in support of the Coleraine branch of the North of Ireland Family History Society. The people who compiled these CDs are volunteers, trying to raise funds for their non-profit organization. I would encourage/urge everyone interested in benefiting from these volunteers' efforts to visit the Coleraine branch's web site at: http://www.coleraine-nifhs.org.uk/ ... and click on the "Projects" tab, to learn how to purchase your very own copies of these CDs. Really, the prices are very reasonable, considering the effort that has gone into them. Your opportunity cost would be to go to Ireland to look in the records yourselves or to purchase the microfilms @ 90 pounds each. Please, let's be fair and respectful of this group's work. If they get wind that lookups are being performed, with no fair exchange returned to their society, they --and others like them-- will be discouraged from undertaking these very useful and very expensive (financial, as well as time) projects. Best regards, Alison Kilpatrick Annapolis Valley, Nova Scotia > From: Seg420@aol.com > Date: 2007/02/26 Mon AM 10:45:40 EST > To: nir-derry@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NIR-DERRY] Londonderry Sentinel CD ROM BMD 1829-69 > > Does anyone own these CDs that might be willing to do some look ups? > > Susi Godfrey > <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-DERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Does anyone own these CDs that might be willing to do some look ups? Susi Godfrey <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

See the website below for more info http://mctriangle.com/famhist/project.html Faye Logue alerted me to this CD Rom and the info in the Londonderry Sentinel one is very good. There are also details of another CD re Ballymoney and Coleraine. Website http://mctriangle.com/famhist/project.html Rachel ______________________________________________________________________________________ ...................The first edition of the Londonderry Sentinel was published on 19th September 1829, price 5d, and following on the other two publications, the members of the branch chose as their next project the abstraction of the BMDs from that paper, covering the years from 1829 to 1869. Some 6,800 births, 18,700 deaths and 9,900 marriages, were carefully and acurately recorded and indexed. These are available as a searchable CD containing the data, in both PDF and CSV formats, of the notices as detailed below. In the CDs produced by the branch the data is available in both PDF and CSV format: births and deaths are arranged alphabetically, by surname and first name; the date of the newspaper is given, to enable the exact date of the event to be calculated; marriages are shown in the order and year in which they were entered, with an additional bride and groom index, covering all the entries, to make searching easier. It should be noted that in the case of births only the sex of the child is noted, not the first name. Titles available are: The Coleraine Chronicle Births, Marriages and Deaths 1844 - 1869 and The Ballymoney Herald Births, Marriages and deaths 1860 - 1863 Price, including postage and packing: UK :- £15-50; EU :- £16-50, USA, Australia and rest of the world :- £17-00 ____________________________________________________________________ The Londonderry Sentinel Births, Marriages and Deaths 1829 - 1869 Price, including postage and packing: UK :- £15-50; EU :- £16-50, USA, Australia and rest of the world |:- £17-00 _________________________________________________________________

Sorry (a)'s name should be a. Susannah Priscilla Boyd and NOT what I have below Mike Boyd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Boyd" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> To: <BOYD@rootsweb.com>; <NIR-DERRY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 11:19 AM Subject: [NIR-DERRY] James Boyd and Susannah Browne of Coleraine? CoLondonderry > While doing some research to reply to David Boyd of Ontario, I came upon > this query in Dean Raod,:- > > I will do this query form Dean Road, Winter 1991-1992, page 9 > > My husband is said to be descended in direct line from the Boyds of > Kilmarnock, supposedly by the eldest son of the eldest son, etc*.. I got > back to his ggg-grandfather named James Boyd who married Susannah > Browne -- > no dates but their children's birth have dates:- > > a. Susannah Fricilla: b 19 Feb 1767, Coleraine, Co Londonderry, Ireland. > > b. James Brown (died young) b 14 July 1768 Jonesburrough, Co Armagh, > Ireland. > > c. Robert b 17 July 1772, Intina, Ireland. > > d. Uriah, b 19 April 1774, Permanent Officer in the Army. > > e. James Browne b 10 Oct. 1777. Lt in the Royal Navy. > > The background of Susannah Browne is: Father - Francis Brown; Mother - > Susannah Ryves; Grandfather - Bagshaw Ryves; Grandmother - Priscilla > Kirks. > > By 1798 Susannah Browne Boyd was married to Robert Thompson so something > happened to James Boyd before that. Does anyone have any info on this > James > Boyd who married Susannah ? > > Louise Boyd > > San Rafael, CA 94903 > > * This could not be correct or they would have been Lord Boyd and the Earl > of Kilmarnock. Certainly the later generations may have been elder sons > when > they came to Ireland. > > Note the first child is said to have been born in Coleraine, Co > Londonderry > and the second in Jonesburrough, County Armagh. David has said that his > James Boyd was born in 1726 and he would appear to have married when he > was > about 40 years old to Susannah. So was there an first family born to him? > > There were Boyds in Coleraine in 1637, but I have no way to link this > James > to that Family at present. > > If you descend from any of these children please contact me. > > Mike Boyd > > Historical Committee, HBS > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

While doing some research to reply to David Boyd of Ontario, I came upon this query in Dean Raod,:- I will do this query form Dean Road, Winter 1991-1992, page 9 My husband is said to be descended in direct line from the Boyds of Kilmarnock, supposedly by the eldest son of the eldest son, etc*.. I got back to his ggg-grandfather named James Boyd who married Susannah Browne -- no dates but their children's birth have dates:- a. Susannah Fricilla: b 19 Feb 1767, Coleraine, Co Londonderry, Ireland. b. James Brown (died young) b 14 July 1768 Jonesburrough, Co Armagh, Ireland. c. Robert b 17 July 1772, Intina, Ireland. d. Uriah, b 19 April 1774, Permanent Officer in the Army. e. James Browne b 10 Oct. 1777. Lt in the Royal Navy. The background of Susannah Browne is: Father - Francis Brown; Mother - Susannah Ryves; Grandfather - Bagshaw Ryves; Grandmother - Priscilla Kirks. By 1798 Susannah Browne Boyd was married to Robert Thompson so something happened to James Boyd before that. Does anyone have any info on this James Boyd who married Susannah ? Louise Boyd San Rafael, CA 94903 * This could not be correct or they would have been Lord Boyd and the Earl of Kilmarnock. Certainly the later generations may have been elder sons when they came to Ireland. Note the first child is said to have been born in Coleraine, Co Londonderry and the second in Jonesburrough, County Armagh. David has said that his James Boyd was born in 1726 and he would appear to have married when he was about 40 years old to Susannah. So was there an first family born to him? There were Boyds in Coleraine in 1637, but I have no way to link this James to that Family at present. If you descend from any of these children please contact me. Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS

I am looking for help on tracing Mary Mullan born circa 1791 in Derry who had a son Bernard born circa 1831 in Derry. They both lived in Glasgow in 1851. Where might I start? Peter Mullen -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My inbox is protected by SPAMfighter Pro It has removed 3 spam emails to date. Try SPAMfighter for free today!

Hi Jenni and Mike Although I was born and brought up in N. Ireland I'm no expert on Townlands and really it's not until you start doing your genealogy that, even as a local, you realise the complexity of the townlands and other land divisons that existed. My g grandfather was from Tullintrain and my g grandmother from Lyng (Ling), Londonderry. I am over 60 and had never heard of these names until I started researching. Last year I drove to the area and the local people, in Claudy, the nearest Town, were able to tell me where the areas were even though they aren't on a modern map. Townland Sites Jenni look at this page on Proni. http://www.proni.gov.uk/research/local/townland.htm a good rootsweb address is http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcar2/Irish_Administrative_divisions.htm Fountain Hill Sites Jenni, this site mentions Fountain Hill http://www.countyderry.com/derry_heritage_derry.htm if you go to description number 18, The Craigavon Bridge. I know that relatives of mine lived at Lawrence Hill which was a very hilly road with large houses. Looking at a skatingboard website it states, <If you have a real death wish - try Fountain Hill and Moore Street off Spencer Road on the Waterside side of the bridge - DARE YA!!! > I've seen some entries in Griffiths Valuation listing Fountain Hill, Londonderry, as Clondermot Parish. Just google Fountain Hill and it will come up with quite a few sites. Sorry I can't be of more help, but don't feel alone, it can be a puzzle! Mike, I can't help with Boydstown. I know the townland names could be swallowed up and lost but not sure if a new one could be brought in with new inhabitants. Lena

In the family of an John Boyd born 1690 (In Ireland or Edinburgh, Scotland), who married Jane Craig in 1715 in Philadelphia, PA., USA, his son is said to have married Elisabeth Young, the dau of "Ulster Baronet" Sir William Young. Do members know of any book that I could look up when I go to Ballymena Library in mid March please to find this Sir William Young? And hopefully his daughter, Elizabeth. S1 John Boyd, b 1716 ( , Philadelphia, PA., USA), d 1758 ( ), m 1744 ( ), Elizabeth Young, dau of "Ulster Baronet" Sir William Young, b 1719, d 1803, and had issue:- [Lived: ] [In an email message of 19/12/1998 to the BOYD-L@rootsweb.com group Rommy Lopat (weedpatch@rsg.org) mentions an incident "Following the burning of the Irish Settlement by Indians in 1756, the Boyds removed to Cumberland County (c1756-1760) as did many other families." While this is similar to the story of a John Boyd, whose family is outlined in ch 4/249. However he may have been a close cousin or a Boyd from the same part of Ireland who came to the US together.] This John Boyd went to the Irish Settlement of the Craig Settlement in 1728 with his father. There would appear to be a third John Boyd who is the father of Thomas Boyd from chapter 5/276. This family arrived from County Armagh in 1732 in America - it is not clear when they went to the Irish Settlement. Secondly, I am trying to find out the "standing" of these John Boyd's families, as to why the younger John Boyd was able to marry a Baronet's daughter. Even in America in the 1740's you would hardly expect a Baronet's daughter to marry a "commoner". It may help to identify the Boyd family in Ireland. Since my trip in 2005, I am thinking that a number of the younger members of the Cadet branches of Ayrshire came to northern Ireland in the 1600's for religious reasons. Thank you for your assistance. Mike Boyd Brisbane

The island of Ireland is divided into a number of political subdivisions. The first and largest are the four provinces -- Connaught (made up of 5 counties), Leinster (12 counties), Munster (6 counties), and Ulster (9 counties). These were the traditional ancient kingdoms. Within the provinces are counties, totalling 32 for the whole island. These include Tiperary, Donegal, Galway, Antrim, etc. Most of those names have remained the same over time, with a couple of notable exceptions: Queen's County became County Leix (or Laois), and King's Co. became County Offaly, after the division of Ireland in 1921. The counties are made up of numerous civil parishes, which are the primary administrative and taxation subdivisions. These usually have the name of the principal town or city of the parish. For example, County Derry/Londonderry has 31 civil parishes. There are also ecclesiastical (church) parishes, which often bear the same name as the civil parish. These are associated with the Chuch of Ireland or Catholic Church and may or may not exactly correspond geographically to the civil parish (more often not). Groups of ecclesiastical parishes are called dioceses. Within the civil parishes are townlands. These are the smallest recognized political subdivisions in rural Ireland. There are over 62,000 on the island, some bearing the same name (in different counties). These vary in size from a few acres to a few thousand. The names, originating in the mists of time, have largely remained the same or similar, but there are many exceptions. Some names (and townlands) have disappeared completely over time, some names have been Anglicized (especially in Nothern Ireland), etc. A great website to search is http://www.seanruad.com/ To further complicate the matter, when Ireland was divided in 1921, Northern Ireland became part of the United Kingdom/Great Britain. This new political subdivision included six of the nine traditional counties of Ulster, the name by which some people still (incorrectly) refer to it. The other three counties remained in the Republic of (Southern) Ireland. There are also ancient Baronies throughout Ireland. They often included many parishes or parts of parishes, and cross county lines. They are largely in disuse now, but cannot be disregarded as many land deed and tax records are still listed and recorded by Barony. Finally, there are Poor Law Unions, as a result of an 1838 law requiring groups of townlands to be responsible for the destitute within their boundaries. They have taxation powers, and kept records of workhouse and hospital inmates. Today they are sub-divided into electoral districts. Good luck in your search, Tim Kane Seattle At 11:00 PM 2/6/2007 -0700, you wrote: >Today's Topics: > > 1. Definition of the word 'townland' (Jenni Gibson) > 2. Re: Definition of the word 'townland' - When established > (Mike Boyd)

Further to Jenni questions When were the Townland system established? And could the names be changed or renamed over time? For example I have seen townland called "Boydstown" when we know that hte first Boyd did not go to Ireland until 1573. Mike Boyd Brisbane

Hello listers, I am still struggling with researching our Daly/Gilespie family who I believe came from Derry. I have been told that I need to know which townland the family came from. Could someone explain to me please the difference between a townland, a parish and a county? Basic questions I know, but I am utterly confused. Also, I have the name of a part of Derry which may be a starting point in my research. Does anyone know of 'Fountain Hill' in Derry and if it still exists today? Is it a townland or a parish, perhaps? Any help very much appreciated. Jenni Gibson Melbourne, Australia Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

Is Newton Limavady the same as Limavady on the current map? Andrew Kinnear married Letitia Boyd of Letterkenny, Co Donegal. It is assume that she is form the Ballymacool Boyd's who arrived in Letterkenny in 1590. However, she does not appear on the tree that I have for this family. It said below that he married his cousin. So I am not sure if his mother was a Boyd or not. If you have any information on the origins of this family, I would like to hear form you please. Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS ----- Original Message ----- From: <BrooksGen4@aol.com> To: <BOYD@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 4:29 AM Subject: [BOYD] Boyd in Letterkenny, Donegal circa 1768 > Found in Canadian records at : _http://www.newirelandnb.ca/ppns002_k.html_ > (http://www.newirelandnb.ca/ppns002_k.html) > > > KINNEAR: > Andrew Kinnear, born c1750 at Newton Limavady, near Londonderry, Ireland, > died 23 May 1818. He married (1st) - and had at least three sons. He came > to NB > in 1783 as a Loyalist and acquired land in Sackville, Westmorland County. > children of first wife: > 1) Thomas Kinnear b. 1777, d. 10 Sep 1815, m. Margaret Denny b. 1787, d. > 21 > Jun 1836: had two sons and one daughter: settled at Halifax, NS > 2) Alexander Kinnear b. 1780 in Gibralter, d. 24 Jun 1864, m. 1802 > Abigail > Lamb b. 1782, d. 29 May 1860: had seven sons and two daughters: founded > Kinnear Settlement > He married (2nd), c1787, Letitia Boyd, his cousin from Letterkenny, > Donegal, > Ireland, born 1768, died 10 Jan 1834 and had six sons and seven > daughters. > children of second wife: > 3) George Lennox Kinnear b. c1787, d. 1831, married Mary - and had five > sons > and one daughter: settled in Saint John, NB > 4) Courtney Kinnear born c1789, died 1 Aug 1856, married (1st) 27 Dec > 1810 > Sarah Estabrooks b. - , d. 25 Dec 1811, m. (2nd) Susannah Harper and had > six > sons and six daughters: settled in Westmorland County > 5) Isabella Kinnear b. 7 Dec 1790, died unmaried 22 Dec 1863 > 6) John Kinnear b. 17 Mar 1794, d. 21 Jul 1859, m. 9 May 1836 Sarah > Millidge > b. 7 Oct 1810, d. 22 May 1869: had three sons and four daughters > 7) Francis Andrew Kinnear born on 21 Oct 1795, died 24 Apr 1849 > 8) William Boyd Kinnear born 2 Oct 1796 at Dorchester, NB, d. 20 Feb 1868 > in > Saint John, m. 6 Dec 1831 in Glasgow, Scotland, Janet Muir d/o James Muir > of > Rosebank, Scotland: had three sons and one daughter: settled in Saint > John, > NB > 9) Harrison Galland Kinnear b. 17 Dec 1797, d. 29 Jan 1850, m. Maria Ayer > born 1803, d. 27 Jul 1887: had three sons and five daughters > 10) Anna Kinnear born 23 Aug 1800, died 7 Dec 1855 > 11) Letitia Kinnear b. 2 Mar 1802, died unmarried 30 Oct 1865 > 12) Caroline Kinnear born 25 Dec 1803, d. Mar 1804 > 13) Caroline Kinnear b. 10 Jan 1805, d. Aug 1806 > 14) Eliza Kinnear b. 5 Oct 1806, died unmarried 29 Aug 1823 > 15) Emily Kinnear b. 28 Nov 1807, d. 1807. > PANB:MC1156 Graves Papers: Andrew Kinnear, 2 pages > see also PANB: MC1286 Volume IX Dictionary of Canadian Biography, pages > 430-431. > ______________________________________ > House of Boyd Society's Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of the > Clan 2007 will be held at Enumclaw, Washington. July 27, 28, 29, 2007. > Write AGM@clanboyd.org if you would be interested in helping to plan it. > ==================== > Want to contribute an article or query to the Dean Road? Contact Kevin > McLachlan, Editor at Editor@clanboyd.org > ==================== > Visit the House of Boyd Society Website http://www.clanboyd.org > ==================== > Need to contact the Admin? Write me off list at Boyd-admin@rootsweb.com > ==================== > Got an issue that is beyond the purview of this list? Write the Help Desk > for assistance http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ > **************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BOYD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message