I have found my people in both the Presbyterian and CI church records. The Ballymore CI records actually include a listing of Presbyterians 1822-1830. I am willing to send my extracts of Clare Presby, Tandragee Presby and Ballymore CI church records for the surnames of WILSON, ELLIS, JONES & JENKINS. I have also extracted all entries with the residence of Mavemacullen townland. I also have extracts from the cemeteries for these churches for these surnames. Also, in the Ballymore CI records, I just found a WONDERFUL census of the "Manors of Ballymore" conducted 1812-1816 that lists everyone living in each townland. This is a record of their acreage and payments. This was extremely helpful to me. Ballymore CI Records - viewed at PRONI (Belfast) Microfilm #MIC.IP 583 Part 270-271 Manors of Ballymore Parish Julie Julie M. Hite Brigham Young University Educational Leadership & Foundations 306H MCKB 801-422-5039 julie_hite@byu.edu -----Original Message----- From: nir-armagh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-armagh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mr EDWARD STEPHENSON Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 10:41 PM To: Armagh mailing list Subject: [ARMAGH] Presbyterian Churches of Ballymore How many Presbyterian churches are there in Ballymore Parish? Checking Ryan's Irish Records and PRONI's townland list, I count Clare, Cremore and Tandragee. Is that it? Somewhere I found that Clare had been a Secession Synod church. Are there any other Secession Presbyterian churches in or immediately adjacent to Ballymore? Ed Stephenson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I visited the PRONI (Public Records of Northern Ireland) in Belfast. (I also found a very nice bed and breakfast within a 10 minute walk!) They had the microfilm for the church records. I find no KELLY or HART in the cemetery record extractions. The only KELLY names that I find are Moses Kelly and Anna Bella Kelly (likely siblings) having children in the 1840's. They both married a Wilson (my surname). I'm sure you can hire a professional researcher to examine these microfilms for your names. Julie Julie M. Hite Brigham Young University Educational Leadership & Foundations 306H MCKB 801-422-5039 julie_hite@byu.edu -----Original Message----- From: nir-armagh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-armagh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Julie M. Hite Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 9:28 AM To: nir-armagh@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Presbyterian Churches of Ballymore I have found my people in both the Presbyterian and CI church records. The Ballymore CI records actually include a listing of Presbyterians 1822-1830. I am willing to send my extracts of Clare Presby, Tandragee Presby and Ballymore CI church records for the surnames of WILSON, ELLIS, JONES & JENKINS. I have also extracted all entries with the residence of Mavemacullen townland. I also have extracts from the cemeteries for these churches for these surnames. Also, in the Ballymore CI records, I just found a WONDERFUL census of the "Manors of Ballymore" conducted 1812-1816 that lists everyone living in each townland. This is a record of their acreage and payments. This was extremely helpful to me. Ballymore CI Records - viewed at PRONI (Belfast) Microfilm #MIC.IP 583 Part 270-271 Manors of Ballymore Parish Julie Julie M. Hite Brigham Young University Educational Leadership & Foundations 306H MCKB 801-422-5039 julie_hite@byu.edu -----Original Message----- From: nir-armagh-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nir-armagh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mr EDWARD STEPHENSON Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 10:41 PM To: Armagh mailing list Subject: [ARMAGH] Presbyterian Churches of Ballymore How many Presbyterian churches are there in Ballymore Parish? Checking Ryan's Irish Records and PRONI's townland list, I count Clare, Cremore and Tandragee. Is that it? Somewhere I found that Clare had been a Secession Synod church. Are there any other Secession Presbyterian churches in or immediately adjacent to Ballymore? Ed Stephenson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Julie, I have an Anna Bella Kelly in my records too. She was one of four sisters: Jane Kelly, Mary Kelly, and Rebecca Kelly were the other three. Jane Kelly was b. about 1800 and she married David Jeffrey October 29, 1831. Mary Kelly, also b. about 1800, married James McHenry April 23, 1839. Ana Bella Kelly whose nickname was Isabella was b. about 1800 and she marred John Caughey on January 17, 1828. John Caughey was born about 1800 in Ballyshiel, Co. Armagh. Rebecca Kelly b. about 1814, married Samuel Hart (b. about 1815) on March 15, 1840. Every one of these four sisters married in the Clare Presbyterian Church in Co. Armagh, so I suppose that must have been their family church. The four sisters' father was James Kelly who died between October 28, 1831, and April 23, 1839, as he was present for some of his daughter's weddings but not for others. I got all this information from a website for the Kelly family - I am sorry, but at this moment I cannot recall the exact website. I do not know James Kelly's wife's name. She would be the mother of these four sisters. Samuel and Rebecca are my ancestors. They are my grandfather's grandparents/ Shortly after their wedding, they emigrated to Canada and I have much data from that point to now. I'm afraid it sounds like your Anna Bella Kelly is not the same as my Anna Bella Kelly described above. Too bad. Karen Hart Anthony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie M. Hite" <julie_hite@byu.edu> To: <nir-armagh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 12:17 PM Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Presbyterian Churches of Ballymore >I visited the PRONI (Public Records of Northern Ireland) in Belfast. (I > also found a very nice bed and breakfast within a 10 minute walk!) They > had the microfilm for the church records. > > I find no KELLY or HART in the cemetery record extractions. The only > KELLY names that I find are Moses Kelly and Anna Bella Kelly (likely > siblings) having children in the 1840's. They both married a Wilson (my > surname). > > I'm sure you can hire a professional researcher to examine these > microfilms for your names. > > Julie > > > > Julie M. Hite > Brigham Young University > Educational Leadership & Foundations > 306H MCKB > 801-422-5039 > julie_hite@byu.edu > > -----Original Message----- > From: nir-armagh-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:nir-armagh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Julie M. Hite > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 9:28 AM > To: nir-armagh@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Presbyterian Churches of Ballymore > > I have found my people in both the Presbyterian and CI church records. > The Ballymore CI records actually include a listing of Presbyterians > 1822-1830. > > > > I am willing to send my extracts of Clare Presby, Tandragee Presby and > Ballymore CI church records for the surnames of WILSON, ELLIS, JONES & > JENKINS. I have also extracted all entries with the residence of > Mavemacullen townland. > > I also have extracts from the cemeteries for these churches for these > surnames. > > > > Also, in the Ballymore CI records, I just found a WONDERFUL census of > the "Manors of Ballymore" conducted 1812-1816 that lists everyone living > in each townland. This is a record of their acreage and payments. This > was extremely helpful to me. > > > > Ballymore CI Records - viewed at PRONI (Belfast) > > Microfilm #MIC.IP 583 Part 270-271 > > Manors of Ballymore Parish > > > > Julie > > > > > > > > Julie M. Hite > > Brigham Young University > > Educational Leadership & Foundations > > 306H MCKB > > 801-422-5039 > > julie_hite@byu.edu > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nir-armagh-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:nir-armagh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mr EDWARD > STEPHENSON > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 10:41 PM > To: Armagh mailing list > Subject: [ARMAGH] Presbyterian Churches of Ballymore > > > > How many Presbyterian churches are there in Ballymore Parish? Checking > Ryan's Irish Records and PRONI's townland list, I count Clare, Cremore > and Tandragee. Is that it? Somewhere I found that Clare had been a > Secession Synod church. Are there any other Secession Presbyterian > churches in or immediately adjacent to Ballymore? > > > > Ed Stephenson > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Julie, please let me/us know how you got the extracts of Clare Presby and Tandragee Presby church records. I am looking for any information about the marriage of Samuel Hart and Rebecca Kelly at (I believe) the Clare Presbyterian Church in March 1840 (or it could have been 1835). Rebecca Kelly's father's name was James Kelly and her mother might have been Jane ? Kelly. I am looking for the parents and siblings of Samuel Hart, and also would love to know who witnessed their wedding. If anyone has any ideas of how I can find out this information, I would surely appreciate it. Thanks. I also believe that Rebecca Kelly's family is probably buried in the same cemetery. Do you see a James Kelly? any others? Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie M. Hite" <julie_hite@byu.edu> Date: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 4:30 am Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Presbyterian Churches of Ballymore To: nir-armagh@rootsweb.com > I have found my people in both the Presbyterian and CI church records. > The Ballymore CI records actually include a listing of Presbyterians > 1822-1830. > > > > I am willing to send my extracts of Clare Presby, Tandragee Presby and > Ballymore CI church records for the surnames of WILSON, ELLIS, > JONES & > JENKINS. I have also extracted all entries with the residence of > Mavemacullen townland. > > I also have extracts from the cemeteries for these churches for these > surnames. > > > > > Julie > > Julie M. Hite > > Brigham Young University > Educational Leadership & Foundations > 306H MCKB > 801-422-5039 > julie_hite@byu.edu > -----Original Message----- > From: nir-armagh-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:nir-armagh-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mr EDWARD > STEPHENSON > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 10:41 PM > To: Armagh mailing list > Subject: [ARMAGH] Presbyterian Churches of Ballymore > > How many Presbyterian churches are there in Ballymore Parish? > CheckingRyan's Irish Records and PRONI's townland list, I count > Clare, Cremore > and Tandragee. Is that it? Somewhere I found that Clare had been a > Secession Synod church. Are there any other Secession Presbyterian > churches in or immediately adjacent to Ballymore? > Ed Stephenson > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-ARMAGH- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >