Hi Anne in Cairns and everyone that's interested! Maybe I've just had a breakthrough as I've just found the following entries in the 1830 Tithe Applotments: Gould James Tullyhugh Gould Thomas Tullyhugh http://www.connorsgenealogy.net/Armagh/BallymoreTithesF-I.htm Maybe this is the James Gould the father of my Mary Jane Gould and Thomas Gould could be the ancestor of Anne in Carins QLD ?. Can anyone tell us about the Townland of Tullyhugh and what town it is near? Anne it could possibly be that we are descendants of the same Gould's! Peter Hinds Wentworth Falls NSW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne Roberts" <wayne_r_roberts@hotmail.com> To: <nir-armagh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 2:28 AM Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Tracing my ancestor Anne Jane Gould > Peter, > > Have you got certified copies of all her children's birth certificates? > Sometimes, on one or more of the children's birth certificates, the full > place of birth of a parent (Anne Jane Gould) can be given. > > I have the same problem with my ancestor, Robert and his brother, John > ROBERTS, both are listed as being born in Armagh, Ireland. Fortunately > Robert married in Lurgan, Armagh in 1854 so it gives me a place to start. > > You should also check her death certificate if you don't already have > that. > If she lived through until the introduction of the Aged Pension, there may > be some record there of her birth place. > > Good luck with your research. I know how frustrating it can sometimes be. > > Wayne Roberts > Brisbane, Queensland > ----- Original Message ----- > Peter Hinds <pete.hinds@bigpond.com> wrote: > > My ancestor Anne Jane Gould was born about 1841 in Armagh and her parents > were James Gould a farmer and Mary Jane Lane. She married in New South > Wales in 1863. Her marriage certificate just states she was born in > "Armagh" > so I'm not sure if it was the City or the County. I would appreciate any > help in tracing her. > > Peter Hinds > NSW Australia > ------------------------------- > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Please change the address to: jj.carroll@comcast.net Thank you, Jim > [Original Message] > From: Brenda Pilson <brendapilson@yahoo.com.au> > To: <nir-armagh@rootsweb.com> > Date: 7/7/2007 7:46:32 AM > Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Collineagh? Drumlelum?

Hi, To find a townland see www.seanruad.com Enter the first letters of the townland and then change the tab that says "must match exactly" to first letters or use last letters and change tab to match. Regards Brenda ----- Original Message ---- From: The Websters <wbwebster@optusnet.com.au> To: nir-armagh@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 7 July, 2007 7:20:18 PM Subject: [ARMAGH] Collineagh? Drumlelum? May I ask help with identifying the above indistinctly written or transcribed town names? Emigration shipping record for John and Mary Kennedy leaving Portadown via Glasgow in 1841 for NSW includes the following text: Magistrate and Clergyman certifying the correctness of the statement in the Form: John Hancock Collineagh (?) Rev'd Dav'd Babington Drumcree John Kennedy's sister Anne married JAMES STEPHENSON and a householder who certified his character was (?) WOODHOUSE of what looks like Drumlelum. Many thanks Bill ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo!7 Mail has just got even bigger and better with unlimited storage on all webmail accounts. http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/unlimitedstorage.html

Peter, Have you got certified copies of all her children's birth certificates? Sometimes, on one or more of the children's birth certificates, the full place of birth of a parent (Anne Jane Gould) can be given. I have the same problem with my ancestor, Robert and his brother, John ROBERTS, both are listed as being born in Armagh, Ireland. Fortunately Robert married in Lurgan, Armagh in 1854 so it gives me a place to start. You should also check her death certificate if you don't already have that. If she lived through until the introduction of the Aged Pension, there may be some record there of her birth place. Good luck with your research. I know how frustrating it can sometimes be. Wayne Roberts Brisbane, Queensland ----- Original Message ----- Peter Hinds <pete.hinds@bigpond.com> wrote: My ancestor Anne Jane Gould was born about 1841 in Armagh and her parents were James Gould a farmer and Mary Jane Lane. She married in New South Wales in 1863. Her marriage certificate just states she was born in "Armagh" so I'm not sure if it was the City or the County. I would appreciate any help in tracing her. Peter Hinds NSW Australia -------------------------------

Brenda, Yep, done that, it actually comes up as Goold not Gould on some of the indexes. Thanks Brenda. Cheers. Anne > Brenda Pilson <brendapilson@yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > How about a variation in spelling. Goold? My Kenny family Were Kenny > on the shipping into Melbourne, could read and write and actually > changed the spelling on the ships list from Canny but in County Clare > they are Canny/Carney. Also one name I came across was spelt 5 > different ways on 1 page of church baptisms and it was the same family. > Regards > Brenda > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Peter Hinds <pete.hinds@bigpond.com> > To: nir-armagh@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, 6 July, 2007 10:50:32 AM > Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Tracing my ancestor Anne Jane Gould > > > Hi Anne > > There would seem that there were many schemes to bring poor young women > of > the British Isles to New South Wales around 1830/40s'. I noticed one in > particular the 1830's run by the London Emigration Committee which seems > to > have brought thousands of young women to NSW: > > "..The British Government's system for assisted female emigration to New > > South Wales was instituted in September 1831 by Lord Goderich, and was > soon > extended to mechanics. Between 1832 and 1836 sixteen entire shiploads of > > emigrants, most of them women, were dispatched from English and Irish > ports, > and in addition several hundreds of young women went out under the > scheme in > vessels other than those chartered by the London Emigration > Committee..." > http://www.electricscotland.com/history/australia/scotaus3.htm > > > As far as I can see my Anne Jane Gould was not amongst these. > > Peter Hinds > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <acpittard@optusnet.com.au> > To: <nir-armagh@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 11:37 PM > Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Tracing my ancestor Anne Jane Gould > > > > Brenda, I just did that. Do you realise how many McDonalds & Lanes > > > there are all over Ireland?? mmmm exactly. Goulds in Armagh?? - > > > none. Lanes in Armagh?? - none. Lots of Goulds in Cork but > wrong > > county unless our certs in Aus are wrong. <sigh> > > Cheers. Anne. > > > > > > > >> Brenda Pilson <brendapilson@yahoo.com.au> wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> To find out where families lived in 1850's look at Griffiths > valuation > >> at http://www.failteromhat.com/index.htm and check to see where both > >> names coincided. > >> Just put in a name & county and it will give you a list that you can > >> cross check. > >> Regards > >> Brenda > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ---- > >> From: "acpittard@optusnet.com.au" <acpittard@optusnet.com.au> > >> To: nir-armagh@rootsweb.com > >> Sent: Thursday, 5 July, 2007 6:38:06 PM > >> Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Tracing my ancestor Anne Jane Gould > >> > >> > >> Peter, Yes, strange that, there are only 5 Goolds in Armagh but > >> hundreds of McDonalds & what about your Lanes?? What we need are > the > >> directories to find out where abouts there are both Gould & Lane and > >> Gould & McDonald together in Armagh towns. I'll have a hunt later. > >> Cheers. Anne. > >> > >> > >> > >> > Peter Hinds <pete.hinds@bigpond.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > Hi Anne > >> > > >> > Anne Gould was 22 years old at the time she married in 1863 which > >> makes > >> > her > >> > born about 1841. Her father would probably be too old for your > Thomas > >> > and > >> > you say his parents were Richard and Mary Ann McMcDonald whereas > hers > >> > was > >> > James Gould and Mary Jane Lane. There maybe a family link somewhere > >> > particularly as it seems that Gould is not a common name around > >> Armagh. > >> > Anne > >> > Gould's marriage certificate just shows that she was born in Armagh > >> and > >> > does > >> > not say whether this is the town or county. I wish there was a > >> > connection. > >> > > >> > > >> > Peter Hinds > >> > Wentworth Falls 2782 (chilly 4 degrees) > >> > > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: <acpittard@optusnet.com.au> > >> > To: <nir-armagh@rootsweb.com> > >> > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 10:22 PM > >> > Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Tracing my ancestor Anne Jane Gould > >> > > >> > > >> > > Peter, mmmm this sounds good!! I have Thomas GOULD born > Armagh > >> > >> > about > >> > > 1834 married to Margaret FOSTER 1863. Margaret was born in > Sydney > >> > >> > so > >> > > they could've married in NSW too. Thomas died 19Nov1877 > Clunes, > >> > Vic. > >> > > Margaret died 17Jul1923 Clunes, Vic. Their certs are on my > wish > >> > list. > >> > > They had 6 kids that I know about. Thomas parents were Richard > >> > GOULD & > >> > > Mary Ann McDONALD. I have found not a skerrick of info about > them > >> > >> > > outside Aus. I wonder if my Richard & your James were > >> brothers???? > >> > > Interesting, I've been 'looking' for them for years. > >> > > Cheers, Anne from chilly Cairns, Aus. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> Peter Hinds <pete.hinds@bigpond.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> My ancestor Anne Jane Gould was born about 1841 in Armagh and > her > >> > >> parents were James Gould a farmer and Mary Jane Lane. She > married > >> in > >> > New > >> > >> South Wales in 1863. Her marriage certificate just states she > was > >> > born > >> > >> in "Armagh" so I'm not sure if it was the City or the County. I > >> would > >> > >> appreciate any help in tracing her. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Peter Hinds > >> > >> NSW Australia > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > >> NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > >> > >> > the > >> > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > >> > > ------------------------------- > >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > > NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > >> > the > >> > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > >> > _________________________________________________________________________ > > >> ___________ Yahoo!7 Mail has just got even bigger and better with > >> unlimited storage on all webmail accounts. > >> http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/unlimitedstorage.html > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > ___________ Yahoo!7 Mail has just got even bigger and better with > unlimited storage on all webmail accounts. > http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/unlimitedstorage.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Peter, Tullyhugh is in Ballymore Parish in County Armagh. You can see where it is located in the parish on this map: http://www.bygonesandbyways.com/folders/townlands/, click Tullyhugh. Walt. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Hinds" <pete.hinds@bigpond.com> To: "Wayne Roberts" <wayne_r_roberts@hotmail.com>; <nir-armagh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Tracing my ancestor Anne Jane Gould > Hi Anne in Cairns and everyone that's interested! > > Maybe I've just had a breakthrough as I've just found the following > entries > in the 1830 Tithe Applotments: > > Gould James Tullyhugh > Gould Thomas Tullyhugh > > http://www.connorsgenealogy.net/Armagh/BallymoreTithesF-I.htm > > Maybe this is the James Gould the father of my Mary Jane Gould and Thomas > Gould could be the ancestor of Anne in Carins QLD ?. Can anyone tell us > about the Townland of Tullyhugh and what town it is near? Anne it could > possibly be that we are descendants of the same Gould's! > > > > Peter Hinds > Wentworth Falls NSW > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wayne Roberts" <wayne_r_roberts@hotmail.com> > To: <nir-armagh@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 2:28 AM > Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Tracing my ancestor Anne Jane Gould > > >> Peter, >> >> Have you got certified copies of all her children's birth certificates? >> Sometimes, on one or more of the children's birth certificates, the full >> place of birth of a parent (Anne Jane Gould) can be given. >> >> I have the same problem with my ancestor, Robert and his brother, John >> ROBERTS, both are listed as being born in Armagh, Ireland. Fortunately >> Robert married in Lurgan, Armagh in 1854 so it gives me a place to start. >> >> You should also check her death certificate if you don't already have >> that. >> If she lived through until the introduction of the Aged Pension, there >> may >> be some record there of her birth place. >> >> Good luck with your research. I know how frustrating it can sometimes be. >> >> Wayne Roberts >> Brisbane, Queensland >> ----- Original Message ----- >> Peter Hinds <pete.hinds@bigpond.com> wrote: >> >> My ancestor Anne Jane Gould was born about 1841 in Armagh and her parents >> were James Gould a farmer and Mary Jane Lane. She married in New South >> Wales in 1863. Her marriage certificate just states she was born in >> "Armagh" >> so I'm not sure if it was the City or the County. I would appreciate any >> help in tracing her. >> >> Peter Hinds >> NSW Australia >> ------------------------------- >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Peter, And my Bridget Wilson wasn't there either. I went into Griffith & found all the Goulds, they are not in Armagh. Cork is the place then Down, Limerick, Fermanagh & Kerry. McDonalds are everywhere & Lanes are everywhere. Cheers. Anne. > Peter Hinds <pete.hinds@bigpond.com> wrote: > > Hi Anne > > There would seem that there were many schemes to bring poor young women > of > the British Isles to New South Wales around 1830/40s'. I noticed one in > particular the 1830's run by the London Emigration Committee which seems > to > have brought thousands of young women to NSW: > > "..The British Government's system for assisted female emigration to New > > South Wales was instituted in September 1831 by Lord Goderich, and was > soon > extended to mechanics. Between 1832 and 1836 sixteen entire shiploads of > > emigrants, most of them women, were dispatched from English and Irish > ports, > and in addition several hundreds of young women went out under the > scheme in > vessels other than those chartered by the London Emigration > Committee..." > http://www.electricscotland.com/history/australia/scotaus3.htm > > > As far as I can see my Anne Jane Gould was not amongst these. > > Peter Hinds > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <acpittard@optusnet.com.au> > To: <nir-armagh@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 11:37 PM > Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Tracing my ancestor Anne Jane Gould > > > > Brenda, I just did that. Do you realise how many McDonalds & Lanes > > > there are all over Ireland?? mmmm exactly. Goulds in Armagh?? - > > > none. Lanes in Armagh?? - none. Lots of Goulds in Cork but > wrong > > county unless our certs in Aus are wrong. <sigh> > > Cheers. Anne. > > > > > > > >> Brenda Pilson <brendapilson@yahoo.com.au> wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> To find out where families lived in 1850's look at Griffiths > valuation > >> at http://www.failteromhat.com/index.htm and check to see where both > >> names coincided. > >> Just put in a name & county and it will give you a list that you can > >> cross check. > >> Regards > >> Brenda > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ---- > >> From: "acpittard@optusnet.com.au" <acpittard@optusnet.com.au> > >> To: nir-armagh@rootsweb.com > >> Sent: Thursday, 5 July, 2007 6:38:06 PM > >> Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Tracing my ancestor Anne Jane Gould > >> > >> > >> Peter, Yes, strange that, there are only 5 Goolds in Armagh but > >> hundreds of McDonalds & what about your Lanes?? What we need are > the > >> directories to find out where abouts there are both Gould & Lane and > >> Gould & McDonald together in Armagh towns. I'll have a hunt later. > >> Cheers. Anne. > >> > >> > >> > >> > Peter Hinds <pete.hinds@bigpond.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > Hi Anne > >> > > >> > Anne Gould was 22 years old at the time she married in 1863 which > >> makes > >> > her > >> > born about 1841. Her father would probably be too old for your > Thomas > >> > and > >> > you say his parents were Richard and Mary Ann McMcDonald whereas > hers > >> > was > >> > James Gould and Mary Jane Lane. There maybe a family link somewhere > >> > particularly as it seems that Gould is not a common name around > >> Armagh. > >> > Anne > >> > Gould's marriage certificate just shows that she was born in Armagh > >> and > >> > does > >> > not say whether this is the town or county. I wish there was a > >> > connection. > >> > > >> > > >> > Peter Hinds > >> > Wentworth Falls 2782 (chilly 4 degrees) > >> > > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: <acpittard@optusnet.com.au> > >> > To: <nir-armagh@rootsweb.com> > >> > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 10:22 PM > >> > Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Tracing my ancestor Anne Jane Gould > >> > > >> > > >> > > Peter, mmmm this sounds good!! I have Thomas GOULD born > Armagh > >> > >> > about > >> > > 1834 married to Margaret FOSTER 1863. Margaret was born in > Sydney > >> > >> > so > >> > > they could've married in NSW too. Thomas died 19Nov1877 > Clunes, > >> > Vic. > >> > > Margaret died 17Jul1923 Clunes, Vic. Their certs are on my > wish > >> > list. > >> > > They had 6 kids that I know about. Thomas parents were Richard > >> > GOULD & > >> > > Mary Ann McDONALD. I have found not a skerrick of info about > them > >> > >> > > outside Aus. I wonder if my Richard & your James were > >> brothers???? > >> > > Interesting, I've been 'looking' for them for years. > >> > > Cheers, Anne from chilly Cairns, Aus. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> Peter Hinds <pete.hinds@bigpond.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> My ancestor Anne Jane Gould was born about 1841 in Armagh and > her > >> > >> parents were James Gould a farmer and Mary Jane Lane. She > married > >> in > >> > New > >> > >> South Wales in 1863. Her marriage certificate just states she > was > >> > born > >> > >> in "Armagh" so I'm not sure if it was the City or the County. I > >> would > >> > >> appreciate any help in tracing her. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Peter Hinds > >> > >> NSW Australia > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > >> NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > >> > >> > the > >> > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > >> > > ------------------------------- > >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > > NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > >> > the > >> > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > >> > _________________________________________________________________________ > > >> ___________ Yahoo!7 Mail has just got even bigger and better with > >> unlimited storage on all webmail accounts. > >> http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/unlimitedstorage.html > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Ireland Genealogy Projects, County Armagh website has been update. Forkill Civil Parish webpage has been added. The following townland pages have either been added or updated: Aughadanove, Aughanduff, Ballykeel, Carnacally, Carrickaldreen, Carrickastickan, Carricknagavna, Carrigans, Cashel, Clarkill, Cloghinny, Doctor's Quarter, Forkhill (Forkill) Town, Glebe, Latbirget, Levallymore, Lisnalee, Longfield, Maphoner, Mullaghbane, Shanroe, Shean, Slieve Gullion, Tievecrom, Tullymacreeve, Carrive, Rathcarbry, Corlust, Timulkenny, Killycarn Upper, Cloncore, Blackwatertown Town, Drumcullen, Aughlish, Middletown Town, Leggall, Monbrief, Tagnevan More pictures, links, surnames, records have also been updated and or added. If you have any additions, comments and/or corrections please contact me off list. You will find the website at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirarm2/ -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Hi Anne There would seem that there were many schemes to bring poor young women of the British Isles to New South Wales around 1830/40s'. I noticed one in particular the 1830's run by the London Emigration Committee which seems to have brought thousands of young women to NSW: "..The British Government's system for assisted female emigration to New South Wales was instituted in September 1831 by Lord Goderich, and was soon extended to mechanics. Between 1832 and 1836 sixteen entire shiploads of emigrants, most of them women, were dispatched from English and Irish ports, and in addition several hundreds of young women went out under the scheme in vessels other than those chartered by the London Emigration Committee..." http://www.electricscotland.com/history/australia/scotaus3.htm As far as I can see my Anne Jane Gould was not amongst these. Peter Hinds ----- Original Message ----- From: <acpittard@optusnet.com.au> To: <nir-armagh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 11:37 PM Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Tracing my ancestor Anne Jane Gould > Brenda, I just did that. Do you realise how many McDonalds & Lanes > there are all over Ireland?? mmmm exactly. Goulds in Armagh?? - > none. Lanes in Armagh?? - none. Lots of Goulds in Cork but wrong > county unless our certs in Aus are wrong. <sigh> > Cheers. Anne. > > > >> Brenda Pilson <brendapilson@yahoo.com.au> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> To find out where families lived in 1850's look at Griffiths valuation >> at http://www.failteromhat.com/index.htm and check to see where both >> names coincided. >> Just put in a name & county and it will give you a list that you can >> cross check. >> Regards >> Brenda >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: "acpittard@optusnet.com.au" <acpittard@optusnet.com.au> >> To: nir-armagh@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Thursday, 5 July, 2007 6:38:06 PM >> Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Tracing my ancestor Anne Jane Gould >> >> >> Peter, Yes, strange that, there are only 5 Goolds in Armagh but >> hundreds of McDonalds & what about your Lanes?? What we need are the >> directories to find out where abouts there are both Gould & Lane and >> Gould & McDonald together in Armagh towns. I'll have a hunt later. >> Cheers. Anne. >> >> >> >> > Peter Hinds <pete.hinds@bigpond.com> wrote: >> > >> > Hi Anne >> > >> > Anne Gould was 22 years old at the time she married in 1863 which >> makes >> > her >> > born about 1841. Her father would probably be too old for your Thomas >> > and >> > you say his parents were Richard and Mary Ann McMcDonald whereas hers >> > was >> > James Gould and Mary Jane Lane. There maybe a family link somewhere >> > particularly as it seems that Gould is not a common name around >> Armagh. >> > Anne >> > Gould's marriage certificate just shows that she was born in Armagh >> and >> > does >> > not say whether this is the town or county. I wish there was a >> > connection. >> > >> > >> > Peter Hinds >> > Wentworth Falls 2782 (chilly 4 degrees) >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: <acpittard@optusnet.com.au> >> > To: <nir-armagh@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 10:22 PM >> > Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Tracing my ancestor Anne Jane Gould >> > >> > >> > > Peter, mmmm this sounds good!! I have Thomas GOULD born Armagh >> >> > about >> > > 1834 married to Margaret FOSTER 1863. Margaret was born in Sydney >> >> > so >> > > they could've married in NSW too. Thomas died 19Nov1877 Clunes, >> > Vic. >> > > Margaret died 17Jul1923 Clunes, Vic. Their certs are on my wish >> > list. >> > > They had 6 kids that I know about. Thomas parents were Richard >> > GOULD & >> > > Mary Ann McDONALD. I have found not a skerrick of info about them >> >> > > outside Aus. I wonder if my Richard & your James were >> brothers???? >> > > Interesting, I've been 'looking' for them for years. >> > > Cheers, Anne from chilly Cairns, Aus. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> Peter Hinds <pete.hinds@bigpond.com> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> My ancestor Anne Jane Gould was born about 1841 in Armagh and her >> > >> parents were James Gould a farmer and Mary Jane Lane. She married >> in >> > New >> > >> South Wales in 1863. Her marriage certificate just states she was >> > born >> > >> in "Armagh" so I'm not sure if it was the City or the County. I >> would >> > >> appreciate any help in tracing her. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Peter Hinds >> > >> NSW Australia >> > >> >> > >> ------------------------------- >> > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > >> NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> >> > the >> > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >> > > ------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > > NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> > the >> > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> _________________________________________________________________________ >> ___________ Yahoo!7 Mail has just got even bigger and better with >> unlimited storage on all webmail accounts. >> http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/unlimitedstorage.html >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: <jtj1139@aol.com> To: <nir-armagh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 12:02 AM Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Creighan Armagh > Just a guess, but likely the name refers to the parish; though perhaps > there > was a village of that name earlier. Crossmaglen is the nearest town now. I > visited there last June. > > JJ > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

How about a variation in spelling. Goold? My Kenny family Were Kenny on the shipping into Melbourne, could read and write and actually changed the spelling on the ships list from Canny but in County Clare they are Canny/Carney. Also one name I came across was spelt 5 different ways on 1 page of church baptisms and it was the same family. Regards Brenda ----- Original Message ---- From: Peter Hinds <pete.hinds@bigpond.com> To: nir-armagh@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, 6 July, 2007 10:50:32 AM Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Tracing my ancestor Anne Jane Gould Hi Anne There would seem that there were many schemes to bring poor young women of the British Isles to New South Wales around 1830/40s'. I noticed one in particular the 1830's run by the London Emigration Committee which seems to have brought thousands of young women to NSW: "..The British Government's system for assisted female emigration to New South Wales was instituted in September 1831 by Lord Goderich, and was soon extended to mechanics. Between 1832 and 1836 sixteen entire shiploads of emigrants, most of them women, were dispatched from English and Irish ports, and in addition several hundreds of young women went out under the scheme in vessels other than those chartered by the London Emigration Committee..." http://www.electricscotland.com/history/australia/scotaus3.htm As far as I can see my Anne Jane Gould was not amongst these. Peter Hinds ----- Original Message ----- From: <acpittard@optusnet.com.au> To: <nir-armagh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 11:37 PM Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Tracing my ancestor Anne Jane Gould > Brenda, I just did that. Do you realise how many McDonalds & Lanes > there are all over Ireland?? mmmm exactly. Goulds in Armagh?? - > none. Lanes in Armagh?? - none. Lots of Goulds in Cork but wrong > county unless our certs in Aus are wrong. <sigh> > Cheers. Anne. > > > >> Brenda Pilson <brendapilson@yahoo.com.au> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> To find out where families lived in 1850's look at Griffiths valuation >> at http://www.failteromhat.com/index.htm and check to see where both >> names coincided. >> Just put in a name & county and it will give you a list that you can >> cross check. >> Regards >> Brenda >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: "acpittard@optusnet.com.au" <acpittard@optusnet.com.au> >> To: nir-armagh@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Thursday, 5 July, 2007 6:38:06 PM >> Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Tracing my ancestor Anne Jane Gould >> >> >> Peter, Yes, strange that, there are only 5 Goolds in Armagh but >> hundreds of McDonalds & what about your Lanes?? What we need are the >> directories to find out where abouts there are both Gould & Lane and >> Gould & McDonald together in Armagh towns. I'll have a hunt later. >> Cheers. Anne. >> >> >> >> > Peter Hinds <pete.hinds@bigpond.com> wrote: >> > >> > Hi Anne >> > >> > Anne Gould was 22 years old at the time she married in 1863 which >> makes >> > her >> > born about 1841. Her father would probably be too old for your Thomas >> > and >> > you say his parents were Richard and Mary Ann McMcDonald whereas hers >> > was >> > James Gould and Mary Jane Lane. There maybe a family link somewhere >> > particularly as it seems that Gould is not a common name around >> Armagh. >> > Anne >> > Gould's marriage certificate just shows that she was born in Armagh >> and >> > does >> > not say whether this is the town or county. I wish there was a >> > connection. >> > >> > >> > Peter Hinds >> > Wentworth Falls 2782 (chilly 4 degrees) >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: <acpittard@optusnet.com.au> >> > To: <nir-armagh@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 10:22 PM >> > Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Tracing my ancestor Anne Jane Gould >> > >> > >> > > Peter, mmmm this sounds good!! I have Thomas GOULD born Armagh >> >> > about >> > > 1834 married to Margaret FOSTER 1863. Margaret was born in Sydney >> >> > so >> > > they could've married in NSW too. Thomas died 19Nov1877 Clunes, >> > Vic. >> > > Margaret died 17Jul1923 Clunes, Vic. Their certs are on my wish >> > list. >> > > They had 6 kids that I know about. Thomas parents were Richard >> > GOULD & >> > > Mary Ann McDONALD. I have found not a skerrick of info about them >> >> > > outside Aus. I wonder if my Richard & your James were >> brothers???? >> > > Interesting, I've been 'looking' for them for years. >> > > Cheers, Anne from chilly Cairns, Aus. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> Peter Hinds <pete.hinds@bigpond.com> wrote: >> > >> >> > >> My ancestor Anne Jane Gould was born about 1841 in Armagh and her >> > >> parents were James Gould a farmer and Mary Jane Lane. She married >> in >> > New >> > >> South Wales in 1863. Her marriage certificate just states she was >> > born >> > >> in "Armagh" so I'm not sure if it was the City or the County. I >> would >> > >> appreciate any help in tracing her. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Peter Hinds >> > >> NSW Australia >> > >> >> > >> ------------------------------- >> > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > >> NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> >> > the >> > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >> > > ------------------------------- >> > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > > NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> > the >> > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> _________________________________________________________________________ >> ___________ Yahoo!7 Mail has just got even bigger and better with >> unlimited storage on all webmail accounts. >> http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/unlimitedstorage.html >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo!7 Mail has just got even bigger and better with unlimited storage on all webmail accounts. http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/unlimitedstorage.html

Just a guess, but likely the name refers to the parish; though perhaps there was a village of that name earlier. Crossmaglen is the nearest town now. I visited there last June. JJ ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Brenda, I just did that. Do you realise how many McDonalds & Lanes there are all over Ireland?? mmmm exactly. Goulds in Armagh?? - none. Lanes in Armagh?? - none. Lots of Goulds in Cork but wrong county unless our certs in Aus are wrong. <sigh> Cheers. Anne. > Brenda Pilson <brendapilson@yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > Hi, > To find out where families lived in 1850's look at Griffiths valuation > at http://www.failteromhat.com/index.htm and check to see where both > names coincided. > Just put in a name & county and it will give you a list that you can > cross check. > Regards > Brenda > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "acpittard@optusnet.com.au" <acpittard@optusnet.com.au> > To: nir-armagh@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, 5 July, 2007 6:38:06 PM > Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Tracing my ancestor Anne Jane Gould > > > Peter, Yes, strange that, there are only 5 Goolds in Armagh but > hundreds of McDonalds & what about your Lanes?? What we need are the > directories to find out where abouts there are both Gould & Lane and > Gould & McDonald together in Armagh towns. I'll have a hunt later. > Cheers. Anne. > > > > > Peter Hinds <pete.hinds@bigpond.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Anne > > > > Anne Gould was 22 years old at the time she married in 1863 which > makes > > her > > born about 1841. Her father would probably be too old for your Thomas > > and > > you say his parents were Richard and Mary Ann McMcDonald whereas hers > > was > > James Gould and Mary Jane Lane. There maybe a family link somewhere > > particularly as it seems that Gould is not a common name around > Armagh. > > Anne > > Gould's marriage certificate just shows that she was born in Armagh > and > > does > > not say whether this is the town or county. I wish there was a > > connection. > > > > > > Peter Hinds > > Wentworth Falls 2782 (chilly 4 degrees) > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <acpittard@optusnet.com.au> > > To: <nir-armagh@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 10:22 PM > > Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Tracing my ancestor Anne Jane Gould > > > > > > > Peter, mmmm this sounds good!! I have Thomas GOULD born Armagh > > > about > > > 1834 married to Margaret FOSTER 1863. Margaret was born in Sydney > > > so > > > they could've married in NSW too. Thomas died 19Nov1877 Clunes, > > Vic. > > > Margaret died 17Jul1923 Clunes, Vic. Their certs are on my wish > > list. > > > They had 6 kids that I know about. Thomas parents were Richard > > GOULD & > > > Mary Ann McDONALD. I have found not a skerrick of info about them > > > > outside Aus. I wonder if my Richard & your James were > brothers???? > > > Interesting, I've been 'looking' for them for years. > > > Cheers, Anne from chilly Cairns, Aus. > > > > > > > > > > > >> Peter Hinds <pete.hinds@bigpond.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> My ancestor Anne Jane Gould was born about 1841 in Armagh and her > > >> parents were James Gould a farmer and Mary Jane Lane. She married > in > > New > > >> South Wales in 1863. Her marriage certificate just states she was > > born > > >> in "Armagh" so I'm not sure if it was the City or the County. I > would > > >> appreciate any help in tracing her. > > >> > > >> > > >> Peter Hinds > > >> NSW Australia > > >> > > >> ------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >> NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > the > > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > ___________ Yahoo!7 Mail has just got even bigger and better with > unlimited storage on all webmail accounts. > http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/unlimitedstorage.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks JJ. So if someone says their family is from Creighan, its a "cemetery/churchyard" ..... then what church and is that church in a really small village/cross roads? What's the nearest community then. Weird, never seen this before. Eric From: <jtj1139@aol.com> To: <nir-armagh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Creighan Armagh It's a cemetery/churchyard in the County of Armagh. J Johnson ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Would it be Creggan graveyard that you are looking for - at Creggan Church, near Crossmaglen? Sharon Oddie Brown Roberts Creek, BC, Canada THE SILVER BOWL: http://www.user.dccnet.com/s.brown/index.html FAMILY TREE: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl

Peter, Yes, strange that, there are only 5 Goolds in Armagh but hundreds of McDonalds & what about your Lanes?? What we need are the directories to find out where abouts there are both Gould & Lane and Gould & McDonald together in Armagh towns. I'll have a hunt later. Cheers. Anne. > Peter Hinds <pete.hinds@bigpond.com> wrote: > > Hi Anne > > Anne Gould was 22 years old at the time she married in 1863 which makes > her > born about 1841. Her father would probably be too old for your Thomas > and > you say his parents were Richard and Mary Ann McMcDonald whereas hers > was > James Gould and Mary Jane Lane. There maybe a family link somewhere > particularly as it seems that Gould is not a common name around Armagh. > Anne > Gould's marriage certificate just shows that she was born in Armagh and > does > not say whether this is the town or county. I wish there was a > connection. > > > Peter Hinds > Wentworth Falls 2782 (chilly 4 degrees) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <acpittard@optusnet.com.au> > To: <nir-armagh@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 10:22 PM > Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Tracing my ancestor Anne Jane Gould > > > > Peter, mmmm this sounds good!! I have Thomas GOULD born Armagh > about > > 1834 married to Margaret FOSTER 1863. Margaret was born in Sydney > so > > they could've married in NSW too. Thomas died 19Nov1877 Clunes, > Vic. > > Margaret died 17Jul1923 Clunes, Vic. Their certs are on my wish > list. > > They had 6 kids that I know about. Thomas parents were Richard > GOULD & > > Mary Ann McDONALD. I have found not a skerrick of info about them > > outside Aus. I wonder if my Richard & your James were brothers???? > > Interesting, I've been 'looking' for them for years. > > Cheers, Anne from chilly Cairns, Aus. > > > > > > > >> Peter Hinds <pete.hinds@bigpond.com> wrote: > >> > >> My ancestor Anne Jane Gould was born about 1841 in Armagh and her > >> parents were James Gould a farmer and Mary Jane Lane. She married in > New > >> South Wales in 1863. Her marriage certificate just states she was > born > >> in "Armagh" so I'm not sure if it was the City or the County. I would > >> appreciate any help in tracing her. > >> > >> > >> Peter Hinds > >> NSW Australia > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It's a cemetery/churchyard in the County of Armagh. J Johnson ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Is this a place or a parish in Armagh? I can't see it on the map of Co Armagh. Eric

In this small grouping we have four families here from Co Armagh [Creighan] including the Roberts family of Michigan. If anyone sees anything of interest or a family connection please feel free to drop us a line. Thank you. Eric Macklin Toronto Summary File Francis Macklin b? d? Creighan, Co Armagh Married [?] to ? Children Thomas Macklin b? d? Creighan, Co Armagh Married [ ?] to Margaret Curran b? d? Thomas Macklinand Margaret Curran Children Mary Ann Macklin b? d? Creighan, Co Armagh Married [?] to Peter McBride b? d? [*] Margaret Macklin b? d? Creiighan, Co Armagh Married [?] to Dr. A.A. Roberts b? d? Note: Margaret Macklin immigrated from Armagh to US in 1892 and lived in Detroit MI. Two children. Nothing known at this time. Alice Macklin b? d? Creighan, Co Armagh Married [?] to Mr. [?] Hughes b? d? Thomas Macklin b? d? Creighan, Co Armagh Married [?] James Macklin b? d? Creighan, Co Armagh Married [?] Francis Macklin b? d? Creighan, Co Armagh Married [?] Note: Francis Macklin immigrated from Armagh to US c 1895 and died there. Peter McBride and Mary Ann Macklin Children Thomas McBride b? d?

To Don and Christina: Thanks for the new info ..... VERY professional I must say .... Eric Toronto From: "Christina Hunt" <filidh@carolina.rr.com> To: <NIR-ARMAGH@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 10:37 AM Subject: [ARMAGH] New in IGP Archives Hi there, We have just added the Armagh directory 1888. Whitecross and the surrounding area. To view this go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlarchive/ Click on Armagh and then Directories. This was contributred by Gill Smith. Thanks, Chris Ireland Genealogy Projects Archives ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message