This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RonaldDale100 Surnames: Furseman, Crossland Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/4127.1.1.4.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Debbie, This all makes sense given the movements of the regiments that you have outlined. The 46th Regiment was in Inda from 1817 but show up back in England in 1833. In 1837 they shipped off from Ireland to Gibraltar and then on to the West Indies in 1842. They were in Canada from 1845 to 1848 at which time they shipped back to England. They remained in England until 1854 when the regiment shipped off to the Crimean War. The 84th had been in Asia from 1842 through 1857 after which they returned to England. The 11th were in Canada in 1839, returning to England (and Ireland) until 1845 when they shipped off to Australia for the next 14 years. During the 19th century, roughly 12% of the soldiers on foreign service were permitted to have their wives and children in barracks. The family could draw rations. Children were allowed "on the strength" until 14 years of age at which time they were considered "old enough to shift for themselves." Widows could not remain on the strength but would be provided with the first available transport back to the parish in which the husband enlisted. In a number of cases, widows remarried to another soldier very soon after the funeral to avoid being shipped back to Britain. Soldiers had to have permission to marry from their commanding officer. Otherwise, there was no hope of the wife receiving shelter, rations or transportation if the regiment was shipped to another posting. Marriages and subsequent baptisms were normally done in the parish in which the regiment was stationed. Pay lists still exist for a number of regiments but these give little more than a soldier's name, rank, company and where exactly he was when paid. Unfortunately many of the attestation papers and other records, once stored in the War Office files, were destroyed in the late 19th century by a clerk with fetish for tidy storage areas. If the soldier received a pension, then his enlistment and attestation papers along with his record of service were shipped to the Pensioners Hospital and those records have been preserved and are in the PRO in Kew. The names Furseman (and variations) and Frederick Crossland are not in the PRO on-line catalogue for these records but that catalogue index is not complete--not all names have been added to that index. There is a complete index of Pension records that was put on microfilm. You can order that film through your nearest LDS Family History centre. That might be a logical next step in your research. Ron Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

My great great grandparents were Francis Faron( Farron) and Ellen McCann. They are from Armagh and I have reason to believe they came from Tandragee. Ellen was born about 1806 and is now buried at st. James Catholis Cemetery in Colgan Ontario, which is Simcoe County. On the headstone it states that she is the wife of Francis Faron. Their son James is buried alongside of her. Does anyone know anything about these people Thank you.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RonaldDale100 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/4127.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If you could send me copies of the photos at ron.dale@sympatico.ca I may be able to identify the uniforms. Ron Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I have been stymied in the past with the difficulty of translating older townland names into more modern one. I have taken the Barony of Ardmagh and done my best to make sense of the townlands there. SEE: http://www.user.dccnet.com/s.brown/documents/TABLES/HearthMoney-BaronyArdmagh.html It is a large file - it was about 9 pages long when I prepared it in MS Word. Enjoy, Sharon Oddie Brown Roberts Creek, BC, Canada THE SILVER BOWL: http://www.user.dccnet.com/s.brown/index.html FAMILY TREE: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl

Check this site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirarm2/townlands/TanderageeT.htm -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jeanold19 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/4127.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Ron I was not sure if they were i have a couple of old photos of men in uniform but i dont know who they are except they are relatives and also if my ggg grand father John McShane had any brothers as i am trying to find him all i know he married Maryann McCann in Armagh. many thanks jean Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Joyce Are you sure it isn't TANDRAGEE, Armagh? Beryl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Finch" <joycef14@sbcglobal.net> To: <nir-armagh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 6:47 AM Subject: [ARMAGH] Tangaree Ireland > Does anyone know where Tangaree, Armagh, Ireland is located? > > Where would I find the records of the 24th Light Dragoons or the 72nd Regt > of Foot? > > Searching for James FINCH BORN CA 1773 in Tangaree. > > Thanks to Ron, I now how something to look up. > Joyce > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: deborahHowse92 Surnames: furseman crossland Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/4127.1.1.4.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Ron I have a Sophia Furseman claimed on most census to have been born 1823 in Gibralta ( her story passed down - aboard ship as her fathers regiment was coming home from India.) In 1851 she is with her husband Frederick Crossland at the Barracks in Leeds (Fred was in the 46th and I have the documents on this - he was later in the 84th and I do not have any documents about that) In 1851 Sophia is listed as being born Devonport. I checked the 1841 census for Sophia in Devonport and could not locate her but did find 2 Fursemans aged 20 in the 11th regiment. As I can not find Sophia Furseman in england in 1841 and she married Fred at some point before 1844 when they have a child in Barbadoes I feel it likely she may have been with her father ( if he was a soldier as she claimed) . Any suggestions for further research welcome. thanks for any help or direction debbie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RonaldDale100 Surnames: Fursman Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/4127.1.1.4.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Debbie, No Furseman etc in the database. Do you have any other clues that he was in the British army? Any information may enable me to direct your research. Ron Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RonaldDale100 Surnames: patton Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/4127.1.1.5.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Maura, To research British Army officers you need to look at "The Army List" which was published annually. It gives the officer's rank, regiment and date of last commission. Once you have the regiment you can check to see if the Records of the Services of Officers are still extant for that particular regiment. The LDS people have a fair collection of records and may have the Army List for 1783 on microfilm. I have several volumes of the army list but they are for a later period, after 1810. Do you know approximately when Frank (I assume Francis) Patton died? Ron Let me know how you make out. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Lee002 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/4718.3.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Karen, We have been in contact before regarding this family. John Graham is my GGGrandfather, son of William Bullock and Rose Ann Edgar. Unfortunately, I have been unable to find any source documentation of births/deaths of William Bullock or Rose Ann Edgar. I sent you what I had on the descendants of John Graham and would be happy to send you any updates that you do not have and may want. Let me know. You can contact me at hobe524@verizon.net. Janet Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Lee002 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/4718.3.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am a descendant of John Graham (my GGGrandfather) born 1796 in Armagh, son of William Bullock and Rose Ann Edgar. Unfortunately, the only information I have found is also the IGI. I have not found any source documentation nor have I been in contact with other descendants who have documented information on either William Bullock's or Rose Ann Edgar's ancestry. John Graham married Ann Graham, and the only information I have on this marriage is through an on-line contact who also descends from this line and has a family bible that does not have any further information on this Graham family. I would be happy to share what information I have on the descendants of John Graham if this is of interest to you, and would appreciate any lead you may have on the ancestry of William Bullock and Rose Ann Edgar. You may contact me directly at hobe524@verizon.net. Janet Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: maura55 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/4127.1.1.5/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for a Frank PATTON. All the information I have about him is that in 1783 he was a captain in the British Army. He was married to Anne Thompson from Armagh. She was my Great-Great-Great Grandmother. According to my family records she is buried in Evergreen Cemetery in Brooklyn NY. Anne Thompson Patton got remarried after Frank Patton died to James Early. At some point they must have been in America but their daughter Ellen Early got married in Armagh to John Gribben. Then their daughter Mary Gribben, came to America and got married in New York City to Patrick Loughran. Basically, I am trying to find out if Frank Patton was in America for the revolution or if Anne and Frank came to America later on?? Did Anne marry James Early in America or in Ireland?? Did THEY come to America? At what point did the Early family go back to Ireland- since their Anne died here in America and their daughter married in Ireland. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Maura Foster Virginia- USA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: alistair56 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/9320.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Many thanks for your reply, but I have stumbled upon a distant family member who had hired a professional researcher and has traced ( in very great detail) the Carson line back to Henry Carson born about 1787 in Lisburn, and his 6 children, one of which is my line. This Henry Carson is my Gx4 grandfather, so I have been very fortunate. Many many thanks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: kitty_conard Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/9320.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The 1901 census has no Carsons with sons David in Drumcree. The sole Carson family is that of an older Methodist minister. There are plenty of McCanns. I assume David's parents moved about. Do you have their names? There is a large group of Carsons in Donaghcloney and Bleary area in Co. Down. One of the Donaghcloney townland families has a David of about the right age. census listing James Carson COI 40 general laborer Mary 40 Ellen 17 bobbin winder Joseph 15 damask weaver David 12 Sarah J 9 Margaret 7 William J 4 Thomas 9 months Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: deborahHowse92 Surnames: furseman Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/4127.1.1.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Ron I am after any by the name Fursman / Furseman / Furzman/ Furzeman- they were actually from Devonport . regards debbie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi by any chance is there any McShanes on their Kind regards Jean On 7/24/07, gc-gateway@rootsweb.com <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: RonaldDale100 > Surnames: 11th Regiment of Foot > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/4127.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > The 11th Regiment of Foot were in the Peninsula War in 1809 and were in > Ireland in 1809, 1814, 1821, 1835 and 1843. About 1/3 to 1/4 of the men > were Irish. The regiment did not have to be stationed in Ireland to receive > Irish recruits. > > If you are searching for a specific name, let me know and I can provide > direction on accessing pay lists, pension records, etc. > > Ron Dale > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Kind regards Jean

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: EileenWilson001 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/9355.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Would be interested in knowing source of Drumcree registers; ie, link to the website. Also would be interested in knowing from which townland Hannah was from, as our Wilsons were in Milltown & Tartaraghan parishes, with early references to them likely in Drumcree parish records. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RonaldDale100 Surnames: Cornet Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/4127.1.1.3.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Mary Joan, No Cornet or Cornetts show in the pension list that I have. Do you have any information on them vis a vis the British Army? Ron Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RonaldDale100 Surnames: Laverty Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/4127.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Dawn, While there are a few Armagh Lavertys listed in the pension records, the only George listed was born in Angahoon, Down, ca 1800. He served in the 41st Regt of Foot and the 48th regiment from 1819 to 1843. Do you have any more information on your George? Was he listed as pensioner or is their some sort of other indication that he had been a soldier? Ron Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.