The Catholic parish is known as Creggan Lower or sometimes now Cullyhanna. The catholic records for this parish only start in 1845. Kieran McConville >From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> >Reply-To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com, nir-armagh@rootsweb.com >To: <NIR-ARMAGH-L@rootsweb.com> >Subject: [ARMAGH] NEWTOWN HAMILTON >Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 03:34:32 -0000 > >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Author: douellette2003 >Surnames: >Classification: queries > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/9365/mb.ashx > >Message Board Post: > >Would someone please tell me if a place called Newtown Hamilton, Armagh in >1835 is still in existence? Is it the name of a town? If yes would you know >what the catholic parish or church would of been 1835? Thanks for help. > >Important Note: >The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would >like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and >respond on the board. > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Got a favourite clothes shop, bar or restaurant? Share your local knowledge http://www.backofmyhand.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DavidCassells Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/3178.11/mb.ashx Message Board Post: That address is not working - is this person linked with Ulster Ancestry http://www.ulsterancestry.com/ ??? Voluntary or commercial?? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DavidCassells Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/3641.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sorry - only just discovered this! I don't have any connection to any names like Cashel or Cashin - some Castles and Cassel associations. but I have read accounts of origins of the name linking it with Cashel, so you may well be right there. best wishes David Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DavidCassells Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/9365.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The parish is also Newtownhamilton, same as the town. Its in Co Armagh. http://www.from-ireland.net/lewis/arm/newtownhamilton.htm Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: michellesheep Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/3641.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Wow, that was a quick reply. Thanks for the help :) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DavidCassells Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/3641.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I don't have a May. Try this site: http://scotfamtree.11.forumer.com/index.php They are very helpful with Scottish queries. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: michellesheep Surnames: Cassells, Conn Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/3641.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi David - just a check. I have a May Cassells in my tree who lived in Scotland but we think she was originally from Ireland. She married a David Conn but I only have a very rough idea of the dates, do you have a May in your tree? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: michellesheep Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/9365.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: It is definately still in existence but the name is all one word ie: Newtownhamilton. I'm not sure of the parish, perhaps Dromore? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jeanold19 Surnames: MCKEE Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/3393.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Do you have a Elizabeth McKee her father was John Regards Jean Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: helshae Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/4864.4.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Nichola my name is helen from australia and we (a relative in queensland aus and one in usa ) have been trying to research the mckees in ireland for i dont know how long! as you can appreciate it is quite hard from here. can you tell me where craigavon is please - our mckees are from richhill, kilmore and surrounding areas. there are no geralds in our tree but a lot of williams, samuels, elizas,sarahs etc. do you have nay of these names form 1700's and mainly 1800's in your tree? hope to speak soon kind regards helen Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Judy734 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/4804.2.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm not looking for IRWINs. I am tracing HALL in the same area as another lister and I mentioned I had come across an IRWIN. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: NMCKEE165 Surnames: Lamph Kelly Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/3393.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This may be a vague message but I hope it helps.My late fiances family name is lamph.Ihave heard passing family stories in which a hugh was mentioned.My partners name was Adrian,His father,Thomas Lamph who married Monica Kelly they lived in portadown Co Armagh Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ears2thetunes1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/9366/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My search is nearly impossible John Smith my grt Grandfather was born in N Ireland in 1862 he came to Scotland and married Margaret McCulloch in 1883 in Airdrie in one census I saw he is listed from Armagh,N.Ireland ,In his mar.cert his parents are John Smith [labourer] and his mother is Isabella Kennedy previously Jones M/S Smith any help out there in Armagh???? from C. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: NMCKEE165 Surnames: Mckee Quinn Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/4864.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: might not be much help.My name is Nichola Mc Kee.From craigavon.My dad is Gerald Mc Kee.His Father too.The family is originally from dungannon.From the surname Quinn.If that helps Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: douellette2003 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/9365/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Would someone please tell me if a place called Newtown Hamilton, Armagh in 1835 is still in existence? Is it the name of a town? If yes would you know what the catholic parish or church would of been 1835? Thanks for help. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BarbaraPyka Surnames: McSwiggen, Burns, Curry,Roselip,Palmer, Dashbach Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/3281.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Sorry I haven't checked this post lately. I now know that Catherines parents were Felix b. 1779 md Mary b. 1784 In I believe Tyrone. They had Felix b. 1815,Rose b.1812 md. James Curry, Catherine b. 1808 md. Bernard Burns John b. 1817. They arrived as a family in Perth Amboy N.J. on May 28, 1829. They settles in Birmingham Allegheny Co.PA. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Alison, I was looking for the Tithes, and Valuation records that were between the Tithes and Griffith's. They seem to label land records a bit differently in No. Ireland. In the Republic you have 1. Tithes 2. Notebooks (including House Books, Tenure Books, Field Books) 3. Griffith's. The Notebooks were notes that were in preparation for Griffith's. Sometimes I find a missing generation in those books - someone who did not have land at the time of the Tithes but who had land after that but died before Griffith's. I think the 2nd set of records I sent for were simply referred to as Valuation Records. When I was at the national genealogy conference in Boston in the fall of 2006, I stopped at a table (PRONI) to ask which vocabulary I should use when asking for land records. They were most helpful. I asked for two specific townlands (Eglish, Eglish and Middletown, Tynan). I received photocopies that were easy to read. I also recall receiving them without having a long wait, and the fee I paid was far less than what researchers were asking for. Because I live in the US and the British pound is almost twice the amount of US money, it was important to look for a decent rate. I hope my explanation has helped a little. I don't want to be negative about researchers who are trying to make a living, but from now on I will check with the local depository for whatever records I was looking for to ask what the fee is for photocopying. There is just too big a difference between the American dollar and the British pound not to do that. Jan janfortado@comcast.net

On 12-Aug-07, at 10:03 AM, Jan Fortado wrote: > I thought I might add a note here about sending for records from No. > Ireland. I once wanted various land records from PRONI and obtained > estimates from various researchers. Some of them asked for travel > money as > well as time spent gathering the records. > > I then emailed PRONI and found that getting records DIRECTLY from > the agency > was far less expensive than going through a researcher. I couldn't > believe > the difference. > > Just in case anyone on this list is wondering about getting land > records.......... (BIG snip) Hi, Jan: Very interesting, that this is an option. May I ask, which land records were you able to access in this way? Landed Estates; or, Registry of Deeds; or ? And, how specific a reference does one have to provide the PRONI for the records that you're seeking ..... very specific, as in title of record, volume and page(s)? Thanks in advance, Alison Kilpatrick http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/acauston/genuki/ARM/index.html

Hello Marian, If you look at the www.groireland.ie/fees.htm site you will see the cost of a photocopy is now 6 euros. You will also see their method of payment. If you click on Apply for cert. on the left you will see their address at the bottom of the page. It is interesting to read the History section on this site also. You can also buy certificates online at www.groni.gov.uk No facility for photocopying is available. Postal applications where registration details are given are cheaper than online. The LDS have only filmed the marriages up until 1870. Regards Alma ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marian" <powrwriter@verizon.net> To: <NIR-ARMAGH@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 6:20 AM Subject: [ARMAGH] Getting photocopies of BMD's fro N. Ire > Can someone answer my question: > > I used to send checks (from USA) for photocopies of BMD's in Northern > Ireland, when I had the page and volume from the index for that year. Can > I still do that? If so, what is the fee for each? I would make my > requests at the GRO, Joyce House in Dublin. > > Also, I have searched all the Northern Ireland Indexes for my surname > (MENEELY, MONRO) and have the page number and volume for the period > 1870-1900. Are the original documents available in Northern Ireland? > They are not available at the LDS Family History Center -- were they > burned up? > > Marian > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.13/946 - Release Date: > 10/08/2007 15:50 > >

I thought I might add a note here about sending for records from No. Ireland. I once wanted various land records from PRONI and obtained estimates from various researchers. Some of them asked for travel money as well as time spent gathering the records. I then emailed PRONI and found that getting records DIRECTLY from the agency was far less expensive than going through a researcher. I couldn't believe the difference. Just in case anyone on this list is wondering about getting land records.......... Jan janfortado@comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <nir-armagh-request@rootsweb.com> To: <nir-armagh@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 3:01 AM Subject: NIR-ARMAGH Digest, Vol 2, Issue 228 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Irish Obituaries (jean old) > 2. Getting photocopies of BMD's fro N. Ire (Marian) > 3. Re: Getting photocopies of BMD's fro N. Ire (FT. & AM.) > 4. Graham, Mary Logan c1861 Portadown (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 13:46:44 +1000 > From: "jean old" <old.jean@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Irish Obituaries > To: nir-armagh@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <c2a4a9400708102046q19b042e2md6e3dfb9318e509f@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi Jean > This is great i have saved it by any chance do you access to marriages in > Armagh > Many thank Jean (Australia) > > > On 8/11/07, Jean McCarthy <jeanmccarthy36@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >> This reference may be of help to those looking for Irish Ancestors. >> >> >> http://www.irelandoldnews.com/obits/ >> >> >> >> This page is an index of 53,407 obituaries of people who were born >> and/or >> died in Ireland, or whose deaths were mentioned in Irish newspapers. The >> actual obituaries are not necessarily available online. They have been >> indexed from newspapers all over the U.S. and Canada, as well as Ireland >> and >> elsewhere, including 24,408 entries from The Cork Examiner of the 19th >> and >> early 20th century, and 1,947 entries from the 19th century [New York] >> Irish-American. >> >> >> Jean McCarthy nee Moore >> >> >> -- >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jeanmccarthy36/ >> >> jeanmccarthy36@googlemail.com >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > Kind regards Jean > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 15:20:31 -0500 (CDT) > From: Marian <powrwriter@verizon.net> > Subject: [ARMAGH] Getting photocopies of BMD's fro N. Ire > To: NIR-ARMAGH@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <4407949.11122051186863631970.JavaMail.root@vms126.mailsrvcs.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Can someone answer my question: > > I used to send checks (from USA) for photocopies of BMD's in Northern > Ireland, when I had the page and volume from the index for that year. Can > I still do that? If so, what is the fee for each? I would make my > requests at the GRO, Joyce House in Dublin. > > Also, I have searched all the Northern Ireland Indexes for my surname > (MENEELY, MONRO) and have the page number and volume for the period > 1870-1900. Are the original documents available in Northern Ireland? > They are not available at the LDS Family History Center -- were they > burned up? > > Marian > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 10:43:01 +1000 > From: "FT. & AM." <kaw56@bigpond.net.au> > Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Getting photocopies of BMD's fro N. Ire > To: <nir-armagh@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <004701c7dc79$bcc50310$6500a8c0@Smokey> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hello Marian, > > If you look at the www.groireland.ie/fees.htm site you will see the cost > of > a photocopy is now 6 euros. You will also see their method of payment. > If > you click on Apply for cert. on the left you will see their address at the > bottom of the page. It is interesting to read the History section on this > site also. > > You can also buy certificates online at www.groni.gov.uk > No facility for photocopying is available. Postal applications where > registration details are given are cheaper than online. > > The LDS have only filmed the marriages up until 1870. > > Regards > Alma > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marian" <powrwriter@verizon.net> > To: <NIR-ARMAGH@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 6:20 AM > Subject: [ARMAGH] Getting photocopies of BMD's fro N. Ire > > >> Can someone answer my question: >> >> I used to send checks (from USA) for photocopies of BMD's in Northern >> Ireland, when I had the page and volume from the index for that year. >> Can >> I still do that? If so, what is the fee for each? I would make my >> requests at the GRO, Joyce House in Dublin. >> >> Also, I have searched all the Northern Ireland Indexes for my surname >> (MENEELY, MONRO) and have the page number and volume for the period >> 1870-1900. Are the original documents available in Northern Ireland? >> They are not available at the LDS Family History Center -- were they >> burned up? >> >> Marian >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.13/946 - Release Date: >> 10/08/2007 15:50 >> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 02:53:36 -0000 > From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [ARMAGH] Graham, Mary Logan c1861 Portadown > To: <NIR-ARMAGH-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <1186887217.204859@rootsweb.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: dsmitymax > Surnames: Graham, Joyce, Bullock > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/9364/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Looking for family of Mary Logan Graham, b 1861, possibly Portadown. > Father was William Graham, a baker. Mary married Samuel Joyce 1893 in > Portadown. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the NIR-ARMAGH list administrator, send an email to > NIR-ARMAGH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the NIR-ARMAGH mailing list, send an email to > NIR-ARMAGH@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-ARMAGH-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NIR-ARMAGH Digest, Vol 2, Issue 228 > ******************************************