Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Hamilton is a common given name Greetings, Ruth, to whom is your question directed? My G-G-Grandfather (name unknown) was born in Scotland, ca 1800 Emigrated to Ireland, married an Irish woman (name unknown) My G-Grandfather, John (William) HAMILTON, was born ca 1825, in N. Ireland Emigrated to America in 1840 Married in Wisconsin, USA in 1858 Ron HABEL Vista, CA, USA

Hi Karen, I found the Drouin Collection through Ancestry. I found it most helpful for Quebec (and esp. Montreal) research, but I understand that it covers French Catholic records for Acadia and Ontario too. The indexing isn't ideal, but I found a lot of Birth, Marriage and Death records for my Presbyterian and Catholic ancestors. Some of the records are in French. Ancestry states the records span from the 1600's into the middle of the 20th century, but I used them mostly for 1850-1920. I never have identified their ship; records from that long ago are scattered at best. Regards, Ryan > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > CC: [email protected] > Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 16:16:46 -0500 > Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Owen(s) / Hare - Armagh - 1790-1850 > > Ryan, > Would you please let me know how you researched the Drouin collection? I > also have Presbyterian ancestors named Hart who immigrated to Canada in the > 1840s, and I'm wondering if this is a source I should look to. They went to > southern Ontario, and lived in Bishop's Mills, near Merrickville. My Harts > were also Presbyterian. Also, were you able to find what ship they went on? > And how I might find what ship mine went on? > Karen Hart Anthony > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ryan Owen" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 11:34 AM > Subject: [ARMAGH] Owen(s) / Hare - Armagh - 1790-1850 > > > > Good Morning All, I'm researching my Owen and Hare families, both > Presbyterian, that immigrated to Montreal, Quebec, from Co. Armagh in the > early 1850's. I've hit a brick wall trying to trace them back to Armagh and > was wondering if anyone else has come across a similar situation and if > there's any advice out there on ways to break through it. I've already > researched a lot of the records on the Canadian side - especially the > Canadian census records and the Drouin collection. John Owen, a cooper in > Montreal, was born in Armagh around 1790. He married Ann Hare, born around > 1805. They had at least six children in Armagh. John, Ann, and their > children listed below immigrated to Montreal around 1851. Marianne (b. > 1830) - married in Montreal in 1852.John (b. 1831)William (b. 1834)George > (b. 1836)Sarah (b. 1840)Henry (b. 1841)Given John's age (40) when his oldest > known child was born, I think there may have been other older children who > either stayed behind in Ireland or emigrated elsewhere. I'd appreciate any > advice anyone might be able to provide. I've been stuck at this brick wall > for some time. > > Without the exact time, place of > > his birth or his parents name I think this might just be the cement wall. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/ > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/

Are these things online? Karen Hart Anthony looking for Hart surnames ----- Original Message ----- From: "Syl" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Owen(s) / Hare - Armagh - 1790-1850 There are HARE & O'HARE families in Armagh that can be found in Bassett's 1888 Directory of County Armagh. Also on 1901 census. They may be older children or cousins.....Hope this helps.... Syl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Owen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 8:34 AM Subject: [ARMAGH] Owen(s) / Hare - Armagh - 1790-1850 Good Morning All, I'm researching my Owen and Hare families, both Presbyterian, > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.144/2625 - Release Date: 01/15/10 11:35:00 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ryan, Would you please let me know how you researched the Drouin collection? I also have Presbyterian ancestors named Hart who immigrated to Canada in the 1840s, and I'm wondering if this is a source I should look to. They went to southern Ontario, and lived in Bishop's Mills, near Merrickville. My Harts were also Presbyterian. Also, were you able to find what ship they went on? And how I might find what ship mine went on? Karen Hart Anthony ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Owen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 11:34 AM Subject: [ARMAGH] Owen(s) / Hare - Armagh - 1790-1850 Good Morning All, I'm researching my Owen and Hare families, both Presbyterian, that immigrated to Montreal, Quebec, from Co. Armagh in the early 1850's. I've hit a brick wall trying to trace them back to Armagh and was wondering if anyone else has come across a similar situation and if there's any advice out there on ways to break through it. I've already researched a lot of the records on the Canadian side - especially the Canadian census records and the Drouin collection. John Owen, a cooper in Montreal, was born in Armagh around 1790. He married Ann Hare, born around 1805. They had at least six children in Armagh. John, Ann, and their children listed below immigrated to Montreal around 1851. Marianne (b. 1830) - married in Montreal in 1852.John (b. 1831)William (b. 1834)George (b. 1836)Sarah (b. 1840)Henry (b. 1841)Given John's age (40) when his oldest known child was born, I think there may have been other older children who either stayed behind in Ireland or emigrated elsewhere. I'd appreciate any advice anyone might be able to provide. I've been stuck at this brick wall for some time. Without the exact time, place of > his birth or his parents name I think this might just be the cement wall. > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There are HARE & O'HARE families in Armagh that can be found in Bassett's 1888 Directory of County Armagh. Also on 1901 census. They may be older children or cousins.....Hope this helps.... Syl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Owen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 8:34 AM Subject: [ARMAGH] Owen(s) / Hare - Armagh - 1790-1850 Good Morning All, I'm researching my Owen and Hare families, both Presbyterian, > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.144/2625 - Release Date: 01/15/10 11:35:00

Good Morning All, I'm researching my Owen and Hare families, both Presbyterian, that immigrated to Montreal, Quebec, from Co. Armagh in the early 1850's. I've hit a brick wall trying to trace them back to Armagh and was wondering if anyone else has come across a similar situation and if there's any advice out there on ways to break through it. I've already researched a lot of the records on the Canadian side - especially the Canadian census records and the Drouin collection. John Owen, a cooper in Montreal, was born in Armagh around 1790. He married Ann Hare, born around 1805. They had at least six children in Armagh. John, Ann, and their children listed below immigrated to Montreal around 1851. Marianne (b. 1830) - married in Montreal in 1852.John (b. 1831)William (b. 1834)George (b. 1836)Sarah (b. 1840)Henry (b. 1841)Given John's age (40) when his oldest known child was born, I think there may have been other older children who either stayed behind in Ireland or emigrated elsewhere. I'd appreciate any advice anyone might be able to provide. I've been stuck at this brick wall for some time. Without the exact time, place of > his birth or his parents name I think this might just be the cement wall. > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/

I dopn't think this is the right one for me. My Samuel Hart emigrated from what is now northern Ireland to Canada in 1840 with his new wife Rebecca Kelly Hart. I am just guessing that his parent might have been named Isaac Hart, but it's not this one anyhow. Thanks, Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 1:03 PM Subject: [ARMAGH] Isaac Hart born ca 1780 in County Armagh > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: bobboss55 > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/9765/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Taking another look at this one. I have an Isaac Hart (at least that is > the Americanized version) born about 1780 in Armagh. This is from The > Hoosie Genealogist(State Historicl Society magazine). In it it lists his > naturalization as being on Oxtober 18, 1838. It also lists his age (as > best he could remember) as 56. His birthplace is listed as County Armagh. > He immigrated in June 1817 from Belfast Ireland to Baltimore Maryland USA. > He settledd down in Indiana and raised several children with his wife. > > I have tried to find information on him or his wife (Mary Carruthers born > in Ireland) before without success. Is there anyway via ther web to locate > any information on such a generic search? Without the exact time, place of > his birth or his parents name I think this might just be the cement wall. > > Any help or addvice will be greatly appreciated. > > Thank you > > Bob > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

re your "I don't follow you on "no Harts in Armagh." Seagoe, Lurgan, and Ballygargin are in Co. Armagh. Do you mean the city or the county? I can't remember that I said there are no Harts in Armagh. I have a Samuel Hart who married Rebecca Kelly in Clare Presbyterian Church in Co. Armagh in 1840. Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Isaac Hart born ca 1780 in County Armagh > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: rconard190 > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/9765.1.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > I do the US census also and know the early records are a pain. However, > very old church records are often available and obituaries, cemeteries, > county books with biographies, and newspapers often give the religion and > voting habits. Rootsweb had wonderful people doing look-ups for > obituaries, etc. That helped me out as did genweb's county records. > Knowing the original faith when he came over really helps. Baltimore > would be a pain, but Indiana might be much easier if he has not converted. > > I don't follow you on "no Harts in Armagh." Seagoe, Lurgan, and > Ballygargin are in Co. Armagh. Do you mean the city or the county? I > usually run into the county turning up in US records until WWI and late > immigration records > > I know nothing about sources in the city, though there is a mailing list > for it. Ask there. Keep in mind PRONI sells tapes of baptisms and/or > marriages if nothing past 1875ish is on it and the Mormons have records > that can be ordered and viewed at the nearest temple from some churches > dating way back. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry to be so late in answering. I'm very interested in your Harts back to the 1780s -- who knows, maybe they will be mine. Co. Armagh is not definite - just an informed guess on my part. I guess I should look more in Lurgan area. Could you please send me any Hart info that you have? You could send it to me direct at [email protected] And you mention checking who was on the boat with them. Do you have any suggestions about how I can find what boat they went on, from what is nor Northern Ireland to Canada. Many thanks, Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 7:44 PM Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Isaac Hart born ca 1780 in County Armagh > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: rconard190 > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/9765.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > I've seen your posting before and hesitated to reply. Ireland genealogy > is a guessing game. You can't find things so you have to get inspired. > > Names run in families. Possibly you are looking for an Armagh Hart family > who names children Isaac about 1820 or after. The familysearch pilot site > might have a record of such a person's death. However, birth information > is available only through trees and churches. > > The first or second male in Isaac's family would typically have been the > name of his father if he stayed in Ireland, so maybe this is true for the > US. > > Since I have Ballygargin Harts back to 1780's, you might have someone > search at Seagoe Parish Church records in Lurgan area. No Isaacs in 1820's > or in my tree, but Harts are there. > > Where are the Carruthers? I don't see any at Seagoe, so maybe that > location is a bad idea. They are at Ballymurphy and Seapatrick in the > rosdavies Co Down site. Seapatrick is somewhat near Armagh. Where are > they in Armagh? Look at Griffiths, look at tax records in PRONI. > Spelling variations and ages off up to 10 years are all part of the game. > Check rosdavies for known variations. > > THe Seagoe records are alphabetized, date back far, and a search should > be relatively inexpensive. I am assuming he is CHurch of Ireland as many > Harts are and not Presbyterian or Catholic. > > Some Catholic records exist for the area, so see how far back they go. > PRONI is the site that has many answers. > > You are often sunk with Presbyterian folks as the religion was illegal and > records where often destroyed to keep people out of jail. 1775-1810 dates > are not often in church records as the situation was bad about then, but > you might get lucky. There is a Presbyterian John Carruthers in Lurgan > married to Mary Murdeen having child Mary Ann in 1834. Presbyterian > Archibald Crothers of Lurgan married Margaret Knight and they also have > kids in the 1830's. > > Crothers are in Banbridge near Seapatrick and at Ballymurphy, so that is > an alternative spelling. This is from the Index of Wills which rarely > lists Presbyterians. Keep looking for places the 2 families might live > nearby. > > PRONI also has tax records and maybe the father was well off enough to pay > taxes, so look at locations and check Grifiths for Harts and the other > names in the 1860's. Family was often left in Ireland. > > Then check who was on the boat with Isaac also from Armagh and whether > they lived nearby in Baltimore. Relatives often move together or emigrate > to your Isaac later on. > > Best luck. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: djgraham170 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/9419.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi there.. not sure if you are still checking this, but I am Connected. David is my Great Great Great Grandfather..John is my Great Great.. I am David John Graham.. lol I suspect they came across together.. I was from Thunder Bay (formerly Port Arthur) and moved to Warman Sk (outside of Saskatoon) December 2009. I am very curious to see my family history as Both my Grandfather and Grandmother are from Saskatchewan. If you want to email me direct, my email is [email protected] Take care and hope to chat soon!! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: traccasb Surnames: Fitzpatrick/O'Connel ancestry Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/9775/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi there, I am looking for help in discovering my Fitzpatrick and O'Connel ancestors. My great great grandparents were Patrick Fitzpatrick and Mary O'Connel. Patrick was possibly born in the 1840s/1850s, and Mary in the 1850s. They had seven children between them, -Mary, born 7th May 1872, married ? McDermott, daughter Mary (Winnie) and immigrated to Australia about 1913. -Ellen, born 1st September 1874, Armagh Ireland -Catherine, born 25 April 1877 -Patrick, born 25 July 1879 Armagh Ireland -Margaret, born 3rd June 1883 Armagh Ireland -Thomas, born 2 December 1885, Barracks, Armagh , Ireland married Josephine Dowling of Dublin in 1910, immigrated to Australia in 1912. -Josephine, born 18 October 1891. Patrick Fitzpatrick was in the army and a Sergent in the 101st Royal Bengal Fusiliers. He appears to have a distinguished conduct medal attached to his uniform in a photo i have of him. There also appears to be a variation of name for Mary O'Connel. On different records i have seen (family search web site) for her children her maiden name has also appeared as Connell and Connelle. My great grandfather Thomas Fitzpatricks birth certificate states it is O'Connel. I know nothing else about Mary. I have several photos of the Fitzpatricks i am unable to identify from the mid-late 1800s. I am hoping someone has information to share with me regarding the Fitzpatricks as it is quite difficult to trace my Irish ancestry from Australia. Also hoping someone out there has a link to these two families. Tracie.... Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: traccasb Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/9774/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi there, I am looking for help in discovering my Fitzpatrick and O'Connel ancestors. My great great grandparents were Patrick Fitzpatrick and Mary O'Connel. Patrick was possibly born in the 1840s/1850s, and Mary in the 1850s. They had seven children between them, -Mary, born 7th May 1872, married ? McDermott, daughter Mary (Winnie) and immigrated to Australia about 1913. -Ellen, born 1st September 1874, Armagh Ireland -Catherine, born 25 April 1877 -Patrick, born 25 July 1879 Armagh Ireland -Margaret, born 3rd June 1883 Armagh Ireland -Thomas, born 2 December 1885, Barracks, Armagh , Ireland married Josephine Dowling of Dublin in 1910, immigrated to Australia in 1912. -Josephine, born 18 October 1891. Patrick Fitzpatrick was in the army and a Sergent in the 101st Royal Bengal Fusiliers. He appears to have a distinguished conduct medal attached to his uniform in a photo i have of him. There also appears to be a variation of name for Mary O'Connel. On different records i have seen (family search web site) for her children her maiden name has also appeared as Connell and Connelle. My great grandfather Thomas Fitzpatricks birth certificate states it is O'Connel. I know nothing else about Mary. I have several photos of the Fitzpatricks i am unable to identify from the mid-late 1800s. I am hoping someone has information to share with me regarding the Fitzpatricks as it is quite difficult to trace my Irish ancestry from Australia. Also hoping someone out there has a link to these two families. Tracie.... Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: shirleyk58 Surnames: hughes Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/9262.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.2.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Ella, love your name. thankyou for your message on the boards.this might now at last give me some idea about Bartholomew and my Hughes,they are my gr grandparents, i do know in march 1919, Bartholomew wife ,mrs hughes was deceased. shirley Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi there was it Anne Murphy or Michael Griffin was from Cregganbane? I live near there and am connected to the Murphys Pauline www.irishhomesteads.com Anne Murphy is one of my paternal g-g'mothers. She was married to Michael Griffin (murdered 11 October 1878, Lower Faughart, nr Dundalk) who came from Cregganbane, nr Crossmaglen.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ellapatterson Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/9262.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Will look at this later as my details are at home but we certainly have Hughes and Bartholomew both in our family. They originated in Louth, moved North to Annyart in Monaghan and later to Markethill where some still live and run the Mace. Ella Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi, I am looking for the marriages in Ireland of Joseph Neely married #1 to Jane Guy. They would have been married before first child born in 1828. Jane Guy died after second child born in 1831 Then Joseph Neely married #2 Jane Hunter some time between 1831 and 1834 Both from Co. Derry. Joseph and Jane Hunter & all children came to America in 1847. Secondly, marriage of George Bell to Mary McCracken in 1761. They were from County Down, Ireland. Came to America in 1799. Hope someone has some information.. Lois United States

Does this STITT ring any bells for anyone? Abraham William Palmer of Rathfriland, County Down; born at Annabrooke, Clontarf, County Dublin, 21 December 1849, baptized at Clontarf parish church by the Rev. James Reid, the Rector. 24 February 1850. Sponsors: Caleb Palmer, Richard Armstrong and Elizabeth Armstrong. Married Jane daughter of Alexander Stitt of Crossmaglen (Note - in Griffiths, he shows up at Ummeracam (Ball) North. An Alexander STITT also shows up in Thomas Directory of Ireland, 1852 as Stamp collector at Newtownhamilton), County Armagh, by Jane his wife, daughter of Dr. John Harvey of Crossmaglen and Freeduff, County Armagh, who joined the Confederate army in 1862 under Gen. Stonewall Jackson; born at Crossmaglen and baptized at Creggan parish church, County Armagh; married at Drogheda, County Louth, 15 August 1881. They had three children: Abraham Richard Palmer born at Athey, County Kildare, 6 April, baptized at St. Michael's parish church, Athey, 12 April 1883. William Benjamin Armstrong Palmer born 29 June, baptized at Heynestown, Dundalk, County Louth, 27 July 1884. Edward Armstrong Palmer, born 23 August, baptized at St. Mary's,Drogheda, Co. Louth, 27 November 1887. Sharon Oddie Brown Roberts Creek, BC, Canada History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ Some Become Flowers: http://www.harbourpublishing.com/title/SomeBecomeFlowers Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jeanbarrynella Surnames: HUGHES Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/9262.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Sorry i cant help you i do have a Hughes from Mayo Kind regards jean Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: shirleyk58 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/9262.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.3.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi to all on these message boards, does anyone have a bartholomew who married mary hughes, i only know of one son, luke . thankyou sk Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.