This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: caseyrader Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/9776/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm looking for information about Patrick Molloy born in Armagh 1866. He married Jane Bloomer in 1890 and had four children: Thomas, Agnes, Anne and Mary. I plan to visit Armagh this summer and hope to meet some relatives. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: susanperry130 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/4118.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I was very interested to read the below thread. I am the grand-daughter of John Rice (who was born after the 1901 census) who was married to Augusta (Gussy) Rice and who lived in Ballyshiel, Clare Tandragee. My grandfather John Rice was the son of John Rice, the blacksmith (my great grandfather) and they lived in the first house beside the river in Clare village. It is still there today. John & Gussie Rice had 8 children - Ann, Tony, Jim, Deborah, Gwen, Sally, Noleen and Clifford. Clifford died in his teens. My mother was Gwen Rice. Those who are still alive are Jim, Deborah, Gwen, Sally and Noleen. My mother was very interested to read your thread. She was wondering what your (Pat Strickland Porter) connection was. She too would be interested to know more about James Rice, if you have any information, as we understand he left Clare quite early on and never really returned. I look forward to hearing from you. You can e mail me directly on [email protected] if you wish. Thanks Susan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

You can check yourself since the Flax Growers index is online on the John Hayes' website at: http://www.failteromhat.com/flax1796.php Do you see any Hart surnames in John Hayes' transcription of Flax Growers of > Ireland (1796)? > > -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: traccasb Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/9775.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for your information. Are you a descendant of Mary and Edward? I have a picture of Mary and one of her daughter Mary (Winnie) if you are interested. Can i ask you where you found your information and do you know anything about Mary's parents, Mary O'Connel and Patrick Fitzpatrick? They are proving to be difficult to trace... Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: emilyyy Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/9754.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am a McKean. My paternal grandfather changed his name from Kane or McKane to McKean. My paternal grandfather was James Henry Kane (or McKane, we're not sure). My father's name was Francis Henry McKean. This is all the information I have on this family. I'll keep an eye out for any information and pass it on if I find anything. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: emilyyy Surnames: McKean, Kane Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/9754.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The marriage record you sent me turned out to be my paternal grandparents. Thank you very much for the information. I'm wondering where you were able to find this and are you researching this family also? Thanks again for your help. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: maryoak Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/9775.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Record Type Civil Marriage Date of Marriage 29 Jan 1890 Groom Name edward MCDERMOTT Bride Name mary FITZPATRICK Church Armagh Roman Catholic Church Parish Armagh Civil District Armagh County Armagh Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Do you see any Hart surnames in John Hayes' transcription of Flax Growers of Ireland (1796)? Thanks, Karen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alison Kilpatrick" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Owen(s) / Hare - Armagh - 1790-1850 > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Ryan Owen" <[email protected]> >> > To: <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 11:34 AM >> > Subject: [ARMAGH] Owen(s) / Hare - Armagh - 1790-1850 >> > >> > Good Morning All, I'm researching my Owen and Hare families, both >> > Presbyterian, that immigrated to Montreal, Quebec, from Co. Armagh in >> > the >> > early 1850's. [...] > > John Hayes shows two HARE women in the county Armagh, in his transcription > of Flax Growers of Ireland (1796): > > Hare, Alace, at Armagh, county Armagh > Hare, Anne, at Mullaghbrack, county Armagh > > http://www.failteromhat.com/flax/armagh.htm > > While at John's excellent web site, visit his home page at: > http://www.failteromhat.com/ > ...and input HARE into the search engine, which search will provide many > results from such sources as Griffith's Valuation Index, the 1901 Census, > various directories, etc > > ajk. > > ajk > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

---- marsha moses <[email protected]> wrote: > Alison, do you have any stories of Cholera in your Hare family? > Marsha Moses Hi, Marsha: I am not researching the HARE family, though one of my GILMORE ancestors (Moses, Jr. of Druminallyduff, later of Portadown) married a Rachel Hare. Sorry I could not be of more help. Alison

Alison, do you have any stories of Cholera in your Hare family? Marsha Moses On Jan 17, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Alison Kilpatrick wrote: >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ryan Owen" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 8:34 AM >> Subject: [ARMAGH] Owen(s) / Hare - Armagh - 1790-1850 >> >> Good Morning All, I'm researching my Owen and Hare families, both >> Presbyterian, > > [...] > > There were at least HARE men who enlisted in the British Army: > - HARE, Charles; born at Ballymore; age at discharge: 40; length of > service: -----; PRO reference: WO 97/454/15; WRO record covers the > years 1824-1845; served in: 10th Foot Regiment, 26th Foot Regiment. > - HARE, James; born at Ballymore; age at discharge: 30; length of > service: -----; PRO reference: WO 97/691/70; WRO record covers the > years 1813-1827; served in: 56th Foot Regiment. > - HARE, Philip; born at Derrybag (Derrybeg?); age at discharge: 51; > length of service: 20 years; PRO reference: WO 121/19/57: WRO record > covers the year 1794. > > This information from the following index which, in turn, was > obtained from England's PRO web site: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~alisoncauston/ArmaghSoldiersH.htm > > See the following links for information on how to obtain copies of, > or view, these records: > http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/ > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/NTT/military.html > > The LDS have copies of the WRO records as well; consult their > catalogue at: > www.familysearch.org > > ajk > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

I missed the reference to Hare in Armagh in the below....Can you explain what the connection is? My grandmother's grandmother is said to have been Mary Ann Hare/O'Hare/Hair/O'Hair from northern Ireland. ”Mother’s maiden name was Mary Ann Hair--she was born in the North of Ireland and she, her father and her mother were all down at once in the hospital with cholera and she surviving and they succumbing whence she came to America with one aunt. She left only one brother who got their 40 acres of land in Ireland. My best guess is that her family was in Mowhan/Moughen/ just south of Markethill in Armagh. I was in the area in 2003. I found an Andrew Hare located on Kilbracks Townland in a spot that might have had Moughen as his post office. I also found the following in the area in the Griffiths Valuation of 1864: ANdrew, Margaret, James, John, Patrick, and James. Andrew goes by Hare. The others go by O'Hare. The Parliamentary Gazeteer of Ireland of 1844 said the following: Mohan, a hamlet in the Parish of Loughgilly, barony of Lower Fews, 2 m. south of Markethill, Co Armagh. On Jan 16, 2010, at 5:01 PM, Ryan Owen wrote: > > Hi Karen, > I found the Drouin Collection through Ancestry. I found it most > helpful for Quebec (and esp. Montreal) research, but I understand > that it covers French Catholic records for Acadia and Ontario too. > The indexing isn't ideal, but I found a lot of Birth, Marriage and > Death records for my Presbyterian and Catholic ancestors. Some of > the records are in French. Ancestry states the records span from > the 1600's into the middle of the 20th century, but I used them > mostly for 1850-1920. > I never have identified their ship; records from that long ago are > scattered at best. > > Regards, > Ryan >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> CC: [email protected] >> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 16:16:46 -0500 >> Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Owen(s) / Hare - Armagh - 1790-1850 >> >> Ryan, >> Would you please let me know how you researched the Drouin >> collection? I >> also have Presbyterian ancestors named Hart who immigrated to >> Canada in the >> 1840s, and I'm wondering if this is a source I should look to. >> They went to >> southern Ontario, and lived in Bishop's Mills, near Merrickville. >> My Harts >> were also Presbyterian. Also, were you able to find what ship they >> went on? >> And how I might find what ship mine went on? >> Karen Hart Anthony >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ryan Owen" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 11:34 AM >> Subject: [ARMAGH] Owen(s) / Hare - Armagh - 1790-1850 >> >> >> >> Good Morning All, I'm researching my Owen and Hare families, both >> Presbyterian, that immigrated to Montreal, Quebec, from Co. Armagh >> in the >> early 1850's. I've hit a brick wall trying to trace them back to >> Armagh and >> was wondering if anyone else has come across a similar situation >> and if >> there's any advice out there on ways to break through it. I've >> already >> researched a lot of the records on the Canadian side - especially the >> Canadian census records and the Drouin collection. John Owen, a >> cooper in >> Montreal, was born in Armagh around 1790. He married Ann Hare, >> born around >> 1805. They had at least six children in Armagh. John, Ann, and their >> children listed below immigrated to Montreal around 1851. Marianne >> (b. >> 1830) - married in Montreal in 1852.John (b. 1831)William (b. >> 1834)George >> (b. 1836)Sarah (b. 1840)Henry (b. 1841)Given John's age (40) when >> his oldest >> known child was born, I think there may have been other older >> children who >> either stayed behind in Ireland or emigrated elsewhere. I'd >> appreciate any >> advice anyone might be able to provide. I've been stuck at this >> brick wall >> for some time. >> >> Without the exact time, place of >>> his birth or his parents name I think this might just be the >>> cement wall. >>> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/ >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/ > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

> > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ryan Owen" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 11:34 AM > > Subject: [ARMAGH] Owen(s) / Hare - Armagh - 1790-1850 > > > > Good Morning All, I'm researching my Owen and Hare families, both > > Presbyterian, that immigrated to Montreal, Quebec, from Co. Armagh in the > > early 1850's. [...] p.s. Don't forget to search for HARE at the historic Irish newspaper web site at: http://www.irelandoldnews.com ajk

> > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ryan Owen" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 11:34 AM > > Subject: [ARMAGH] Owen(s) / Hare - Armagh - 1790-1850 > > > > Good Morning All, I'm researching my Owen and Hare families, both > > Presbyterian, that immigrated to Montreal, Quebec, from Co. Armagh in the > > early 1850's. [...] John Hayes shows two HARE women in the county Armagh, in his transcription of Flax Growers of Ireland (1796): Hare, Alace, at Armagh, county Armagh Hare, Anne, at Mullaghbrack, county Armagh http://www.failteromhat.com/flax/armagh.htm While at John's excellent web site, visit his home page at: http://www.failteromhat.com/ ...and input HARE into the search engine, which search will provide many results from such sources as Griffith's Valuation Index, the 1901 Census, various directories, etc ajk. ajk

> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ryan Owen" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 8:34 AM > Subject: [ARMAGH] Owen(s) / Hare - Armagh - 1790-1850 > > Good Morning All, I'm researching my Owen and Hare families, both > Presbyterian, > [...] There were at least HARE men who enlisted in the British Army: - HARE, Charles; born at Ballymore; age at discharge: 40; length of service: -----; PRO reference: WO 97/454/15; WRO record covers the years 1824-1845; served in: 10th Foot Regiment, 26th Foot Regiment. - HARE, James; born at Ballymore; age at discharge: 30; length of service: -----; PRO reference: WO 97/691/70; WRO record covers the years 1813-1827; served in: 56th Foot Regiment. - HARE, Philip; born at Derrybag (Derrybeg?); age at discharge: 51; length of service: 20 years; PRO reference: WO 121/19/57: WRO record covers the year 1794. This information from the following index which, in turn, was obtained from England's PRO web site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~alisoncauston/ArmaghSoldiersH.htm See the following links for information on how to obtain copies of, or view, these records: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/ http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/NTT/military.html The LDS have copies of the WRO records as well; consult their catalogue at: www.familysearch.org ajk

---- Syl <[email protected]> wrote: > I think Bassett's may be online as members of this list extracted it a few > years ago, but I doubt that the 1901 census is. I read the films for my > specific area at the LDS Family History Centre. The Irish Civil > Registrations from 1845(if Protestant onwards) is online though. Lots of > good stuff there....Syl Norm Ruddock shows a Thomas HARE at Mavemacullen, Markethill, in his transcription/index of the 1876 Landowers list for the County Armagh: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donaghmore1/armagh/grhea.html ajk

---- Syl <[email protected]> wrote: > I think Bassett's may be online as members of this list extracted it a few > years ago, but I doubt that the 1901 census is. I read the films for my > specific area at the LDS Family History Centre. The Irish Civil > Registrations from 1845(if Protestant onwards) is online though. Lots of > good stuff there....Syl See also this index* from Slater's 1846 Directory of merchants, tradesmen, gentry, etc. for the County Armagh: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/acauston/genuki/ARM/CoArmaghSlater1846.html *Index copyright to Alison Kilpatrick. Robert HARE is listed as a provision dealer at Moira, which is in county Down, but not far from Lurgan. ajk

---- Syl <[email protected]> wrote: > I think Bassett's may be online as members of this list extracted it a few > years ago, but I doubt that the 1901 census is. I read the films for my > specific area at the LDS Family History Centre. The Irish Civil > Registrations from 1845(if Protestant onwards) is online though. Lots of > good stuff there....Syl See the following web page: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/NIR-ARMAGH/2001-12/1009737047 ...for a transcription of the Portadown section of Bassett's Book of County Armagh (1888). There were two men listed with the surname HARE, Moses and W.J., in Derryhale townland. ajk

You might get some dates and locations from Irish Civil Regstrations.....Syl ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 4:15 PM Subject: [ARMAGH] Fitzpatrick/ O'Connel ancestry > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: traccasb > Surnames: Fitzpatrick/O'Connel ancestry > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/9775/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Hi there, > I am looking for help in discovering my Fitzpatrick and O'Connel > ancestors. > > My great great grandparents were Patrick Fitzpatrick and Mary O'Connel. > > Patrick was possibly born in the 1840s/1850s, and Mary in the 1850s. > They had seven children between them, > -Mary, born 7th May 1872, married ? McDermott, daughter Mary (Winnie) and > immigrated to Australia about 1913. > -Ellen, born 1st September 1874, Armagh Ireland > -Catherine, born 25 April 1877 > -Patrick, born 25 July 1879 Armagh Ireland > -Margaret, born 3rd June 1883 Armagh Ireland > -Thomas, born 2 December 1885, Barracks, Armagh , Ireland married > Josephine Dowling of Dublin in 1910, immigrated to Australia in 1912. > -Josephine, born 18 October 1891. > > Patrick Fitzpatrick was in the army and a Sergent in the 101st Royal > Bengal Fusiliers. He appears to have a distinguished conduct medal > attached to his uniform in a photo i have of him. > > There also appears to be a variation of name for Mary O'Connel. On > different records i have seen (family search web site) for her children > her maiden name has also appeared as Connell and Connelle. My great > grandfather Thomas Fitzpatricks birth certificate states it is O'Connel. > I know nothing else about Mary. > > I have several photos of the Fitzpatricks i am unable to identify from the > mid-late 1800s. > > I am hoping someone has information to share with me regarding the > Fitzpatricks as it is quite difficult to trace my Irish ancestry from > Australia. Also hoping someone out there has a link to these two > families. > > Tracie.... > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.143/2624 - Release Date: 01/15/10 04:47:00

I think Bassett's may be online as members of this list extracted it a few years ago, but I doubt that the 1901 census is. I read the films for my specific area at the LDS Family History Centre. The Irish Civil Registrations from 1845(if Protestant onwards) is online though. Lots of good stuff there....Syl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Owen(s) / Hare - Armagh - 1790-1850 Are these things online? Karen Hart Anthony looking for Hart surnames ----- Original Message ----- From: "Syl" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] Owen(s) / Hare - Armagh - 1790-1850 There are HARE & O'HARE families in Armagh that can be found in Bassett's 1888 Directory of County Armagh. Also on 1901 census. They may be older children or cousins.....Hope this helps.... Syl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Owen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 8:34 AM Subject: [ARMAGH] Owen(s) / Hare - Armagh - 1790-1850 Good Morning All, I'm researching my Owen and Hare families, both Presbyterian, > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390706/direct/01/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.144/2625 - Release Date: 01/15/10 11:35:00 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.145/2626 - Release Date: 01/15/10 23:35:00

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RuthDuggan52 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/40.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I was wondering if you ever got a answer to this question? I have been researching my great great grandfather Hamilton Duggan of Letterkenny, Donegal, Ireland. I thought having Hamilton as a first name was unual and was wondering why they might have chosen it. Did you have any luck finding out? Thanks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.