Chris Try it again. Get the imagery up that shows the red boundary lines. Ballymacrandal is about 2 miles due east of PORTADOWN. I can get it up very clearly on this site. The name Ballymacrandal is written in the centre of the townland clearly. It even shows a property known as Mountain View in Ballymacrandal. Play around with the site, you want the image with the red boundaries Pauline www.irishhomesteads.com On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Chris Shearer Cooper <[email protected]> wrote: > I looked up Ballymacrandal in the Griffith's Valuation portion of > askaboutireland.ie, and it brought up a map, but it's kind of strange > because nothing on the map (that I can find) actually says Ballymacrandal. > Is this to be expected? > > > > Thanks, > > Chris > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: janfortado Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/9761.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you. The page came right up. I would need to get one generation farther back to see who the father of your James is. I will know now how to get the "tree," so if I get new information I can return to your tree easily. Thank you. Jan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Now I m wondering if this was communal living, or if families shared apartments or sections of the house. No wonder my 17 or18 year old William seduced the 20 year old Harriet. Or was it the other way round. I look forward to your paper. Someday the mystery will be solved. I m not as impatient as I used to be to find out. There are always more mysteries.. b On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Sharon Oddie Brown <[email protected]>wrote: > No, it wasn't row housing. I have other pictures of Urker. It was a single > family home with farm related buildings attached in a courtyard arrangement > (not uncommon). One day I will do a page on Urker - not yet! > Sharon > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Beverley Clarkson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 5:06 AM > Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] a question > > > > Thanks Sharon. It almost looks like row housing- I wonder if there are > > separate entrances and walls. > > > > Beverley > Sharon Oddie Brown > Roberts Creek, BC, Canada > History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ > Some Become Flowers: > http://www.harbourpublishing.com/title/SomeBecomeFlowers > Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Beverley Clarkson Sambro Head, Nova Scotia

Thanks Sharon. It almost looks like row housing- I wonder if there are separate entrances and walls. Beverley On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Sharon Oddie Brown <[email protected]>wrote: > Urker Lodge had the same appellation - it was a fairly substantial house > with numerous stables and such attached. SEE: > http://www.thesilverbowl.com/biographies/Jackson_George_OLaughlin.htm for > a > picture on the page where I have an older bio I did on George JACKSON > (which > I intend to revisit and redo). > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Beverley Clarkson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 10:38 AM > Subject: [ARMAGH] a question > > > > My family, Donaldsons and Wallaces, lived at Cloghog Lodge, Crossmaglen, > > in > > the early 1800s. A Wallace girl married a Donaldson boy and came to > Canada > > in 1839 and 6 generations later I am learning about their lives. But I > > don't > > understand what a Lodge was, and couldn''t find it when I visited there > in > > 2008. Were they in some kind of Inn? Were there several houses? Did > > several > > families just live together? > > > > Can any tell me what is was and if it possibly still exists? I was told > > that > > it did, but was unoccupied. > > > > -- > > Beverley Clarkson > > Sambro Head, Nova Scotia > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Sharon Oddie Brown > Roberts Creek, BC, Canada > History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ > Some Become Flowers: > http://www.harbourpublishing.com/title/SomeBecomeFlowers > Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Beverley Clarkson Sambro Head, Nova Scotia

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No - it was intergenerational, but one family (with frequent visitors). And the house wasn't large by today's standards - the photo is misleading because of how much space was really part of a working farm, not living quarters. Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beverley Clarkson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 7:40 AM Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] a question > Now I m wondering if this was communal living, or if families shared > apartments or sections of the house. No wonder my 17 or18 year old William > seduced the 20 year old Harriet. Or was it the other way round. > > I look forward to your paper. Someday the mystery will be solved. I m not > as > impatient as I used to be to find out. There are always more mysteries.. > > b Sharon Oddie Brown Roberts Creek, BC, Canada History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ Some Become Flowers: http://www.harbourpublishing.com/title/SomeBecomeFlowers Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl

No, it wasn't row housing. I have other pictures of Urker. It was a single family home with farm related buildings attached in a courtyard arrangement (not uncommon). One day I will do a page on Urker - not yet! Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beverley Clarkson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 5:06 AM Subject: Re: [ARMAGH] a question > Thanks Sharon. It almost looks like row housing- I wonder if there are > separate entrances and walls. > > Beverley Sharon Oddie Brown Roberts Creek, BC, Canada History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ Some Become Flowers: http://www.harbourpublishing.com/title/SomeBecomeFlowers Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl

I looked up Ballymacrandal in the Griffith's Valuation portion of askaboutireland.ie, and it brought up a map, but it's kind of strange because nothing on the map (that I can find) actually says Ballymacrandal. Is this to be expected? Thanks, Chris

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Chris Look up *askaboutireland.ie* then go to the section on Griffiths Vaulation and in the 'place' section type in Ballymacrandal and you will see a map of the 1860's of that townland. It is close to Portadown in north west Armagh Pauline www.irishhomesteads.com On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Chris Shearer Cooper <[email protected]> wrote: > My Hollingsworth ancestors came from Ballymacrandal, Seagoe Parish, County > Armagh, but I'm not finding any maps that show where this is (or was). Any > ideas? > > > > Thanks, > > Chris > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

My family, Donaldsons and Wallaces, lived at Cloghog Lodge, Crossmaglen, in the early 1800s. A Wallace girl married a Donaldson boy and came to Canada in 1839 and 6 generations later I am learning about their lives. But I don't understand what a Lodge was, and couldn''t find it when I visited there in 2008. Were they in some kind of Inn? Were there several houses? Did several families just live together? Can any tell me what is was and if it possibly still exists? I was told that it did, but was unoccupied. -- Beverley Clarkson Sambro Head, Nova Scotia

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Hello, I am looking for anyone who maybe related to or familiar with my Allen Family in County Armagh. My grandmother, Sydney Isobelle Allen came to America in 1923 on the ship "The Haverford" to live with her sister Margaret who had come some years before. If anyone is familiar, please email me! I desperately want to connect with family in N. Ireland! Sincerely, Amy Cargill Waltz 1. James Allen-1. He was born on 31 Aug 1865 in Loughall, Armagh, Ireland. He died on 18 Dec 1934 in Port'a'Down, N. Ireland. Son of Henry and Jane Allen Mary Jane Wright is the daughter of James Wright and Jane Davidson. She was born on 14 Jun 1863 in N. Ireland. She died on 25 Dec 1941 in Port'a'Down, N. Ireland. Daughter of James Wright and Jane Davidson. Notes for Mary Jane Wright: General Notes: signature appears on the Ulster Covenant of 1912 James Allen and Mary Jane Wright. They were married on 26 Oct 1888 in Annaghmore Parish Church, N. Ireland. They had 8 children. i. Margaret Patricia Allen. She was born on 23 Aug 1889[1]. Emigration 1920 in Philadelphia, PA. She died on 06 Sep 1968 in Philadelphia, PA. She was also known as Peg. Social Security Number was 198-09-7416 [1]. SSN Issued in Pennsylvania [1]. Notes for Margaret Patricia Allen: General Notes: came to US on March 20, 1920, became citizen Jan 20, 1926 ii. William John Allen. He was born 1890. Notes for William John Allen: General Notes: Isobelle said he died of ill health, stayed in sun room, must have had tuberculosis iii. Sarah Jane Allen. She was born 1891. She was also known as Sally. Notes for Sarah Jane Allen: General Notes: Aunt Sally iv. Thomas Henry Allen. He was born 1892. He died on 06 Sep 1918 in Ypres, France WWII. Notes for Thomas Henry Allen: General Notes: died in WWI - Ypres, France Killed in action - Royal Irish Regiment, 8th Battalion, #3417, Theatre of Action - Aldershot, Notes:Formerly 11552, R. Ir. Fus Royal Irish Regiment, Mourneview Street, name is on monument in Portadown v. Mary Anne Allen. She was born on 29 Aug 1895. She died on 29 Jul 1962. She was also known as Nan. vi. Elizabeth Allen. She was born on 12 Jul 1899. She died on 05 Mar 1987. She was also known as Lil. vii. Sydney Isobelle Allen. She was born on 02 May 1902 in Port'a'Down, N. Ireland. Emigration 1923 in Philadelphia, PA. She married Alfred William Farquhar Menmuir Cargill. They were married on 22 Feb 1928 in Philadelphia, PA. She died on 05 Nov 1997 in Warminster, PA. viii. Eveline Allen. She was born on 08 Jan 1905. Emigration 1929 in Philadelphia, PA. She died on 14 May 1995 in Sewell, NJ. Social Security Number was 135-44-5082 [2]. SSN Issued in New Jersey [2]. Notes for Eveline Allen: General Notes: came to US Oct 29, 1929, became citizen July 24, 1953

Urker Lodge had the same appellation - it was a fairly substantial house with numerous stables and such attached. SEE: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/biographies/Jackson_George_OLaughlin.htm for a picture on the page where I have an older bio I did on George JACKSON (which I intend to revisit and redo). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beverley Clarkson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 10:38 AM Subject: [ARMAGH] a question > My family, Donaldsons and Wallaces, lived at Cloghog Lodge, Crossmaglen, > in > the early 1800s. A Wallace girl married a Donaldson boy and came to Canada > in 1839 and 6 generations later I am learning about their lives. But I > don't > understand what a Lodge was, and couldn''t find it when I visited there in > 2008. Were they in some kind of Inn? Were there several houses? Did > several > families just live together? > > Can any tell me what is was and if it possibly still exists? I was told > that > it did, but was unoccupied. > > -- > Beverley Clarkson > Sambro Head, Nova Scotia > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message Sharon Oddie Brown Roberts Creek, BC, Canada History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ Some Become Flowers: http://www.harbourpublishing.com/title/SomeBecomeFlowers Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl

My Hollingsworth ancestors came from Ballymacrandal, Seagoe Parish, County Armagh, but I'm not finding any maps that show where this is (or was). Any ideas? Thanks, Chris

I am looking for more information on Thomas Jacobs, my great(many)-grandfather. I had received information years ago saying he was born in 1679 in County Cork, but now it seems like everyone on the Internet is saying 1684 in County Armagh, but I can't find anyone who is providing source information for that fact (not that my source information for the original date/place is all that great). Does anyone know where information on Thomas would have come from? Thanks! Chris

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nolacass Surnames: Cassell Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/9761.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You are welcome to click on my family tree and see if anything looks like a match. We have a James Cassell born in Ireland in 1827. His son, John Cassell, was born in Ireland in 1850. They came to the USA. I have some confusing dates with James' wife, Mary Jane Fay. I have that they were married in Loughall, Ireland in 1854... came to the US in 1854... but, also her death is recorded as 1854. Maybe I just have too many notes and confused something. Let me know if you are connected to my tree. NOLACASS Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bethcargin Surnames: Cargin Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.arm.general/909.1586.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Stuart, My family are from Belfast. Would John Cargin have had a nephew in Belfast called Dennis Cargin? He was my grandfather. Best wishes, Vikki Cargin Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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In the past month, I have written and posted a number of new pieces on my web site. The focus in these pieces has been on people connected to Counties Armagh and Louth - but these families also had connections to Counties Monaghan and Antrim. The easiest way to access the pieces for many people is to start with my What's New link at: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/misc/whatsnew.htm The new pages are (from most recently posted): John Charles COULTER (Nov 1840 - bet. 1914-1917) - the mystery surrounding his death and an exploration of his possible family connection to the COULTERs of Carrickastuck. The knowledge of the story is thanks to a series of emails in 2009 from Lainey (Elaine) Machovsky. 1911 Census of Killynure and notes NAMES: COUSER, STOOPS, CARROLL, FINEGAN, CAROLAN, BROWN, MONTGOMERY, SMYTH, MACKLE, FEGAN. Andrew Bradford OLIVER(1818-1877) This is a complete rewriting of this biography with new photos and information. JACKSONs of Creggan and Drogheda There is mounting evidence that there may be a connection between the JACKSONs of Creggan and the JACKSONs of late 1600s and early 1700s Drogheda. In time, this may or may not be proven. It will depend on not only the truth of whether or not there is a connection, but also whether there are enough available records to make the case compellingly. This page also references: Council book of Drogheda - Jackson references Starting in 1657, the first generation -Richard JACKSON of Drogheda (carpenter, sheriff etc.) - seems to have been quite successful. His son, Alderman Richard JACKSON also seems to have succeeded although his various pension requests in 1713-1715 lead one to wonder how well he was doing near the end of his life. By 1727, his son George seems even more financially precarious as he pleads for money so he can place his two sons as apprentices. The Corporation finally says, enough in 1730: and yt for the future, no petition or application be received from the said George Jackson for any further relief. This work was significantly helped thanks to the index of this book created to Brendan Hall. PIPPARDs of County Louth Deeds. This page is not meant to be an exhaustive summary of all deeds pertaining to the PIPPARDs of County Louth. It only includes the ones that I have found as part of exploring JACKSON-PIPPARD connections as well as ones that can be found on Nick Reddan's excellent site. As in all of this work, we are all standing on the shoulders of others. As always, if there are any errors - I love to be notified so I can fix them ASAP. Also, if you know more about some of these stories, I'd like to hear from you as well. Enjoy, Sharon Oddie Brown Roberts Creek, BC, Canada History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ Some Become Flowers: http://www.harbourpublishing.com/title/SomeBecomeFlowers Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl