Ray: I recently went thru the Poll & Hearth Rolls of County Antrim 1669-69 and found five Crooks families, BUT which is mine, who knows. There is a edition of it published by S.T. Carleton, M.A. The full name is: Heads & Hearths: The Hearth money rolls and poll tax reurns for Co. Antrim 1660-69. I borrowed a copy from our Library of Congress, since you live in Canada I would suggest you contact your local library and they can track it down if available in Canada. I also have phot copies of all of the old maps showing the paqrishes towns etc. I couldn't find a listing for Kildrum, this might be a modern spelling and you would need to find the original spelling. Gordon----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Jones" <nantwich@istar.ca> To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [Antrim] Family interests >I am responding to the interest expressed by Ann and Gordon re. my >Armstrong line. > The earliest Armstrong I have is a John Armstrong who married Esther > Surgeoner on Jan.,6th, 1834 in Kildrum, County Antrim. I have only been > able to go back as far as births in the late eighteenth century in County > Antrim due to a lack of source documents. > Ray.Jones,Ontario > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ann Perrine" <perrineap@mindspring.com> > To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 3:52 PM > Subject: Re: [Antrim] Family interests > > >> Hi Ray, do you have any info about Robert Armstrong b.1700, Antrim, >> Ulster, Ireland d. 10 Nov 1754, Abbeyville Dist., SC married 1728 >> Antrim, Ulster, Ireland to Alice Calhoun b. 1705, and died 12 Nov 1753 >> Ulster, Antrim, Ireland? Any info would be most appreciated. Thank you >> for offering to share. >> >> Ann Scarbrough Perrine >> >> >> On Mar 27, 2006, at 3:33 PM, Ray Jones wrote: >> >>> I have recently added a new branch to the tree so I thought I would >>> list my interests in County Antrim: >>> >>> McKibbin McKay >>> Bleakley Cathcart >>> Caldwell Armstrong >>> Bones Greenwood >>> Eaton >>> >>> Please let me know if you have any interest in any of the above >>> surnames. >>> Ray.Jones,Ontario >>> >>> >>> ============================== >>> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >>> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >>> Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx? >>> sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >>> >> >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > >

Gordon, Many thanks for the reference to the Poll and Hearth Rolls. I had never heard of them before. Do you know of any County Antrim reference material for the period 1780 to 1820 please? Ray.Jones ----- Original Message ----- From: "gordon crooks" <glcrooks@bcpl.net> To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [Antrim] Family interests > Ray: I recently went thru the Poll & Hearth Rolls of County Antrim 1669-69 > and found five Crooks families, BUT which is mine, who knows. There is a > edition of it published by S.T. Carleton, M.A. The full name is: Heads & > Hearths: The Hearth money rolls and poll tax reurns for Co. Antrim > 1660-69. I borrowed a copy from our Library of Congress, since you live in > Canada I would suggest you contact your local library and they can track > it down if available in Canada. I also have phot copies of all of the old > maps showing the paqrishes towns etc. I couldn't find a listing for > Kildrum, this might be a modern spelling and you would need to find the > original spelling. > > Gordon----- Original > Message ----- > From: "Ray Jones" <nantwich@istar.ca> > To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:18 AM > Subject: Re: [Antrim] Family interests > > >>I am responding to the interest expressed by Ann and Gordon re. my >>Armstrong line. >> The earliest Armstrong I have is a John Armstrong who married Esther >> Surgeoner on Jan.,6th, 1834 in Kildrum, County Antrim. I have only been >> able to go back as far as births in the late eighteenth century in County >> Antrim due to a lack of source documents. >> Ray.Jones,Ontario >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ann Perrine" <perrineap@mindspring.com> >> To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 3:52 PM >> Subject: Re: [Antrim] Family interests >> >> >>> Hi Ray, do you have any info about Robert Armstrong b.1700, Antrim, >>> Ulster, Ireland d. 10 Nov 1754, Abbeyville Dist., SC married 1728 >>> Antrim, Ulster, Ireland to Alice Calhoun b. 1705, and died 12 Nov >>> 1753 Ulster, Antrim, Ireland? Any info would be most appreciated. >>> Thank you for offering to share. >>> >>> Ann Scarbrough Perrine >>> >>> >>> On Mar 27, 2006, at 3:33 PM, Ray Jones wrote: >>> >>>> I have recently added a new branch to the tree so I thought I would >>>> list my interests in County Antrim: >>>> >>>> McKibbin McKay >>>> Bleakley Cathcart >>>> Caldwell Armstrong >>>> Bones Greenwood >>>> Eaton >>>> >>>> Please let me know if you have any interest in any of the above >>>> surnames. >>>> Ray.Jones,Ontario >>>> >>>> >>>> ============================== >>>> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >>>> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >>>> Learn more: >>>> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx? >>>> sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >>>> >>> >>> >>> ============================== >>> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >> Learn more: >> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >> >> >> > > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Question for Gordon Crooks - The "Heads and Hearths" book 1660-1669 for Antrim...is it indexed by family name? I'd sure like to know if there is anyone named Wiseman listed in that time period. My Wisemans were in Ballywatermoy, Ahoghill (now Craigs) Township by 1800, but there seems to be some mystery as to when the first Wisemans are recorded as having come to Antrim. The earliest reference I've been given is for the name appearing sometime in the early 18th Century in Carrickfergus. Some say that the first Wiseman in Ulster was a Dutch or German mercenary in William of Orange's Army, and others say that the name in Ireland originated from Wisemans who lived in the North of Scotland and once had had some association with William the Wallace. Bob Wilson Beaufort SC USA > Ray: I recently went thru the Poll & Hearth Rolls of County Antrim 1669-69 > and found five Crooks families, BUT which is mine, who knows. There is a > edition of it published by S.T. Carleton, M.A. The full name is: Heads & > Hearths: The Hearth money rolls and poll tax reurns for Co. Antrim > 1660-69. I borrowed a copy from our Library of Congress, since you live in > Canada I would suggest you contact your local library and they can track > it down if available in Canada. I also have phot copies of all of the old > maps showing the paqrishes towns etc. I couldn't find a listing for > Kildrum, this might be a modern spelling and you would need to find the > original spelling. Gordon --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.

Ray look at my msg. to Bob. Also to all of you I know several researchers in both Glasgow, Dublin, and Belfast, all are professionals. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Jones" <nantwich@istar.ca> To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 10:09 AM Subject: Re: [Antrim] Family interests > Gordon, > Many thanks for the reference to the Poll and Hearth Rolls. I had never > heard of them before. > Do you know of any County Antrim reference material for the period 1780 to > 1820 please? > Ray.Jones > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "gordon crooks" <glcrooks@bcpl.net> > To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:58 AM > Subject: Re: [Antrim] Family interests > > >> Ray: I recently went thru the Poll & Hearth Rolls of County Antrim >> 1669-69 and found five Crooks families, BUT which is mine, who knows. >> There is a edition of it published by S.T. Carleton, M.A. The full name >> is: Heads & Hearths: The Hearth money rolls and poll tax reurns for Co. >> Antrim 1660-69. I borrowed a copy from our Library of Congress, since you >> live in Canada I would suggest you contact your local library and they >> can track it down if available in Canada. I also have phot copies of all >> of the old maps showing the paqrishes towns etc. I couldn't find a >> listing for Kildrum, this might be a modern spelling and you would need >> to find the original spelling. >> >> Gordon----- Original >> Message ----- >> From: "Ray Jones" <nantwich@istar.ca> >> To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:18 AM >> Subject: Re: [Antrim] Family interests >> >> >>>I am responding to the interest expressed by Ann and Gordon re. my >>>Armstrong line. >>> The earliest Armstrong I have is a John Armstrong who married Esther >>> Surgeoner on Jan.,6th, 1834 in Kildrum, County Antrim. I have only been >>> able to go back as far as births in the late eighteenth century in >>> County Antrim due to a lack of source documents. >>> Ray.Jones,Ontario >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Ann Perrine" <perrineap@mindspring.com> >>> To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 3:52 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Antrim] Family interests >>> >>> >>>> Hi Ray, do you have any info about Robert Armstrong b.1700, Antrim, >>>> Ulster, Ireland d. 10 Nov 1754, Abbeyville Dist., SC married 1728 >>>> Antrim, Ulster, Ireland to Alice Calhoun b. 1705, and died 12 Nov >>>> 1753 Ulster, Antrim, Ireland? Any info would be most appreciated. >>>> Thank you for offering to share. >>>> >>>> Ann Scarbrough Perrine >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mar 27, 2006, at 3:33 PM, Ray Jones wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have recently added a new branch to the tree so I thought I would >>>>> list my interests in County Antrim: >>>>> >>>>> McKibbin McKay >>>>> Bleakley Cathcart >>>>> Caldwell Armstrong >>>>> Bones Greenwood >>>>> Eaton >>>>> >>>>> Please let me know if you have any interest in any of the above >>>>> surnames. >>>>> Ray.Jones,Ontario >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ============================== >>>>> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >>>>> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >>>>> Learn more: >>>>> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx? >>>>> sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ============================== >>>> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>>> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ============================== >>> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >>> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >>> Learn more: >>> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ============================== >> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >> ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

Kildrum is a townland in Connor Parish, Lower Antrim Barony, East Antrim, County Antrim. About 2 miles south of Ballymena and a quarter mile west of Kells village. Norman -------------------------- Subject: Re: [Antrim] Family interests > the paqrishes towns etc. I couldn't find a listing for Kildrum, this might > be a modern spelling and you would need to find the original spelling.