> Does anyone know which Presbyterian Church or Non Subscribing Presbyterian Church >someone would have attended in Belfast if they lived (c1824) in Ballymurphy area, >Belfast? I have hit a "dead end" and hope this information may help. Thanks for your >time. Martin's Belfast Directory for 1841-42 lists the following Presbyterian Places of worship. In connexion with the General Assembly (12); Rosemary Street, Revs Samuel Hanna and Wm. Gibson Donegall Street, Rev George Bellis Fisherwick Place, Rev James Morgan May Street, Rev Henry Cooke Alfred Street, Rev John Edgar Townsend Street, Rev Josias Wilson Linen Hall Street, Rev Robert Wilson Alfred Street, Rev Joseph W Hunter York Street, Rev David Hamilton Berry Street, Rev Adam G Glasgow Ballymacarrett, Rev J Meneely Ballysillan, Rev M D Reid Under jurisdiction of Antrim Presbytery in connexion with the Remonstrant Synod (3); Rosemary Street, Revs Wm. Bruce and John S Porter Rosemary Street, Rev John Porter York Street, Rev Mr Bleakly In connexion with the reformed Synod of Ireland (2); Dublin Road, Rev John Alexander College Street West, Rev R J Watt In addition there were also listed under Presbyterian Independent, Donegall Street Society of Friends, Frederick Street Primitive Seceding, York Street, Rev R J Bryce This is significantly later than the period you are seeking. I have the histories of May Street and Fisherwick Place. The Fisherwick congregation was commenced in 1823, but the church did not open until November 1828. May Street opened in October 1829. Rosemary Street was earlier, but others were later in establishment. In 1823 the population of Belfast was probably under 40,000, mostly domiciled around the High Street area. "The west and south sides of the town in 1823 were still largely open country, with streams and rivers tumbling down the hills to provide the water and the power for the future linen industry." At that time here were only 4 Presbyterian churches. The first congregation was formed in Rosemary Street at a date I can't easily discover. The second congregation split off in 1708, but the account I have suggests that the new "hive" in the same enclosure. In 1721 a third congregation was formed, but they settled down only "a few perches distant". The Donegall Street Meeting House was built in 1794. As an outsider it is hard to relate the names of churches to precise geographical situations, but, if it's 1824 you're after, there wasn't too much built up towards Ballymurphy, and the folks only had 4 churches in Belfast to choose from, all within close distance in the centre. If it's a little later in time they could have been involved in the establishment of any one of quite a large number of new congregations. From what I can make out the people tried more than one, before finding the preachers, fellow church members, and style of service, and convenience of situation to suit. Congregations were not nicely nucleated and static. It's a real challenge to find where they worshipped!!! Then finding them in the records is another challenge in itself. Chris Morgan