Belfast Weekly News 14 January 1893: Missing Friends: CAIRNS: News wanted of Thomas Cairns who left Belfast about ten years ago for Canada, North America. Any kind friends knowing his whereabouts will oblige by writing to his anxious brother, Joseph Cairns, 51 Pernau Street, off Shankill Road, Belfast, Ireland. American and Australian papers please copy. GORE: Should this meet the eye of William John Gore, who left Broughdoane, County Antrim, Ireland, about twenty-two years ago, last heard of as working at the Oil Springs, State of Pennsylvania, America, would he please communicate with his friend, James Evans, Commons, Coleraine, County Derry, Ireland. American papers please copy. GRAHAM: Samuel Graham, who left Ballyrickardbeg, Larne, in 1869, and when last heard of was living in Chicago, America, is sought by his friend, William Robert Apsley 32 Pound Street, Larne, County Antrim. American paper splease copy. MARSHALL: Arthur Marshall, of Belfast, who left Liverpool for Rockhampton, Queensland, on 24th June 1884. No word has been received from him since, only one letter in September of same year intimating his intention to remove to Melbourne or Sydney. Any information regarding him will be thankfully received by his father, Robert Marshall, 4 Eton Street, Belfast, Ireland. Australian papers please copy. M�KANE: Would Matthew M�Kane or any of his brothers ( residing in Belfast when last heard of ) kindly write to their cousin John M�Kane, 6 Maitland Street, Helensburg, Scotland, formerly of Banbridge. Any information from friends thankfully received. SAMPSON: George Hughes, Magherafelt, County Derry, Ireland, wants to hear of his sister, Mrs Rose Anna Sampson; when last heard of three years ago was living in Toronto, Canada, America. Any information will be thankfully received by her anxious brother. American papers please copy. THOMPSON: Charles Thompson, Barrack Street, Dundalk, is anxious to learn the whereabouts of his son, William Henry, who has been missing since 12th December last when he was in the employment of Messrs. Milligan & Co., drapers, Church Street, Athlone. Belfast Weekly News 21 January 1893: Births: ORR- January 3 at 113, Atlantic Street, Jersey City Height, New Jersey, U.S.A.: Mrs Wm. G. Orr, of a son. Deaths: M�CRACKEN: January 17 at his residence, Ballyrickard, James M�Cracken, 90 years. Missing Friends: BIGGESTY: Thomas Biggesty, flax mill worker, and his sisters, Mary and Sarah, domestic servants, are sought by their brother William, 101 Holm Street, Glasgow. When last heard of were in Belfast; object friendly. KING: Samuel King, Dunmore, Ballynahinch, County Down, is anxious to hear from his brother, Wm. James Ramsey King, who emigrated to New South Wales, Paramatta, and thence to Melbourne, South Australia, a considerable time since. His brother wishes to hear from him or any of his relatives. Australian papers please copy. Belfast Weekly News 28 January 1893: Missing Friends: ALLISON: News is wanted of James Allison, who left the Wallhouse, Kirkcolm-by-Stranraer, Scotland, about 1857; went to Dumbarton to serve an apprenticeship as a ship-carpenter at Denny�s shipbuilding yard; left Dumbarton about twenty-nine years ago with a new screw steamer, built there for owners in Australia; supposed to have been wrecked on this passage out. Last heard of about twenty years ago; thought to have settled down as a farmer near Melbourne, Australia; supposed to be still in Australia. Any news respecting him will be thankfully received by his nephew, William Allison, newsagent and stationer, 140 Thistle Street, Glasgow, S.S., Scotland. Australian newspapers please copy. BLAKELEY: Should this meet the eye of any of the friends of Martha Blakeley, who married Robert Leacock, shoemaker, and emigrated to Toronto, Upper Canada, in 1842 or of her sister, Isabella Blakeley who emigrated with their son, Robert Leacock, January 1846 or �49, daughters of William Blakeley, Bleachworks, Castledawson, communication will be thankfully received by their sisters, Rebecca and Mary. Address- Alex. Blakeley, Moyala Bleach and Dye Works, Castledawson, County Derry, Ireland. PATERSON: Maria Paterson, who resided in Sandy Row, Belfast, in the year 1887, can hear of the whereabouts of her brother, William Paterson, by applying to Mr. J.K. Robertson, 127 Lothian Road, Edingburgh. The following statement was in this issue of BWN. Mr Pierce Mahony: In reference to the incident which occurred in the Four Courts, and in refutation of the statement said to have given rise to the occurrence, we (Irish Times) are asked by Mr.Geo. Gun Mahony to say that his brother, Mr Pierce Mahony, is the youngest son of the late Mr. P.K. Mahony, J.P., of Kilmorna, County Kerry, by his marriage with Jane, daughter of the late Mr.Robert Gun Cuninghame, D.L, of Mountkennedy, and his first wife, Elizabeth, only child and heir of Mr Archibald Hamilton Foulkes, of Coolawinna, both in County Wicklow; and that his grandfather, the late Mr Pierce Mahony, D.L., of Kilmorna, Kerry, was the son of Mr P Mahony, of Woodlawn, in the same county, J.P. for Counties Kerry and Limerick, by his marriage with Anna Maria, daughter, daughter of Mr John Maunsell, J.P., of Ballybrood, County Limerick. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!
Belfast Weekly News 07 January 1893: Births: SAVAGE: December 31, at 125 Fitzroy Avenue, the wife of John Savage, of a son (prematurely). Deaths: MAGEE: At his residence, No.11 Vicanage Park, Captain William Magee, late master of the ship Scottish Moors. Missing Friends: FAYLE: Information about James Henry Fayle, formerly of Lurgan, but in Chicago, U.S.A., when he wrote last to his relatives in 1885, would be thankfully received by his brother H.S.Fayle, Ballyvicknacally, Dromore, County Down. JOHNSTON: Robert Johnston, 16 Lower Wilton Street, Belfast, is anxious to know if his brother, John Johnston, is living. He was mate of the barque Luxon, which left Larne Harbour on November 14 1884, and was wrecked at Barbadoes same year, but no lives were lost. Has not heard of his brother since. MACDONNELL: Information is wanted as to the whereabouts and circumstances of Louisa M. Macdonnell, who formerly lived with J.H.Gawn, Main Street, Larne; if the Gawns are alive, and if the lady is still living with them,; object friendly;- William Bellew, Librarian, Blackwell�s Island, New York, U.S.A. MARTIN: Wanted to know the whereabouts of Robert Martin, who went to Australia over forty years ago, in company with Mr Boyd, both of Ballynahinch, County Down, Ireland. Any information as to his whereabouts will be thankfully received by his friend Robert Martin, 10 Donegore Street, Bridge End , Belfast , Ireland. STRONG: News wanted of Thomas Strong, who left Glasgow about six years ago for the State of Pennsylvania,America. Any kind friends knowing his whereabouts will oblige by writing to his anxious brother, John Strong, 812 Old Ford Road, Bow, London, England. American papers please copy. Determined Suicide In Belfast: On the 4th inst. a hodsman named James Hamilton committed suicide at his residence, 4 Campbell�s Row, Newtownards Road. Information of the occurrence having been conveyed to the police, Sergeant Houston and Constables Hannon and Feenaghy visited the house, where they discovered the deceased ���.. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Hi All, Sorry for the strange heading, but I know I saw a posting from someone looking for the above person, but can't for the life of me remember where. Just wanted to say I was in Milltown over the weekend and took a digital photo of a Charlie McKees grave, died 1970. If this is him, and whoever was after him let me know and if you want, I can e-mail the photo if you havent got one. Brian --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!
Lleanor: All of that is too late for me I need 1650 to 1741 period of time in Ulster. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleanor Strain" <Eleanor_Strain@hotmail.com> To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [Antrim] Belfast 1901 Census - Heads of Household > Gordon, > > As if that wasn't bad enough ...... There is almost a complete lack of > census material.... > > Full government censuses were taken of the whole of Ireland in 1821, 1831, > 1841, 1851, 1861, 1871, 1881, 1891 1901, and 1911. > The first four, for 1821, 1831, 1841, and 1851, were largely destroyed > in 1922, in the Four Courts fire. There are a few surviving fragments. > > .. Wait for it ...... those for 1861 1871 1881 and 1891 were completely > destroyed earlier, by order of the government. > This is why we who want to research our Irish ancestors must resort to > the census substitutes, Griffiths, Valuation Office Records, Tithe > Applotment Books > and the like. > > Eleanor > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dr. Jane Lyons" <sniliaghin@iol.ie> > To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 8:29 PM > Subject: Re: [Antrim] Belfast 1901 Census - Heads of Household > > >> Gordon, >> >> Back in 1922, we had a civil war in Ireland - and at that time, the Four >> Courts was our National Archives - or - Public Records Office (PRO). >> >> Ireland was still not a Republic and she was still part of the United >> Kingdom of Great Britain. Somewhere, not to long before 1922, a decision >> was made that all parish registers or copies of them should be lodged in >> the PRO. >> >> Anyway - we're a great country for not doing as we're told - or, taking >> our time about doing it. So, the majority of the Church of Ireland >> parish records were lodged with the PRO around about the time that they >> were supposed to be..........the Cartholics were a bit slower about doing >> what they ought to have..............and mind you, not all Protestant >> parishes complied on time >> >> During the civil war, there was a battle/fight between a group who were >> hiding/ensconced in the Four Courts (the PRO) and another - during that >> fight, the Four Courts went on FIRE - and, everything in it. Everybody >> these days just refers to it as the fire in the Four Courts...........and >> says 'everything was destroyed >> >> That 'everything' included all kinds of records...............including >> parish records and wills. >> >> After 1922, a huge effort was made to try and recover 'copies' of >> records. Few things survived that fire in perfection. If you're ever in >> the National Archives in Dublin - you'll see that in lots of places the >> Marriage Licence Bond books on shelves are sellotaped >> together............bits of pages missing - things like that. >> >> When people say that everything was lost, then, for the most part they >> are referring to non-Catholic parish registers - about 65% of them were >> burned to bits (they were supposed to have been copied before they were >> sent to the PRO, but they weren't) - the majority of the wills that had >> been lodged were lost............ >> >> But - we do stil have the 1901 and 1911 censuses - we do have will and >> deed abstracts from 1858 - we do have the Tithe books, the Griffiths - we >> do have lots of material that was transcribed by wonderful genealogists >> way beyond our time in the past, but way ahead of us because they werer >> interested in genealogy way back when it was not 'popular' - if I'm not >> confusing you by seemingly contradicting myself with that statement. >> >> Not all Irelands records were lost - the worst thing that was lost, was >> those parish records............ >> >> But even there, for everyone, regardless of their religion - there's >> always the possibility that their ancestor was mentioned in the Minute >> books of a parish - Minute Bookswere not sent to Dublin. We have all the >> Quaker records going back to the 1660's. We've got lots of >> records............ >> >> But that's no obvious good to someone interested in a particular set of >> records that were destroyed. >> >> There's more to it Gordon, relating to Wills and land administrations and >> the movement from Dioscescan archives to Dublin (PRO) and loss of things >> before they ever got to Dublin. >> >> Different times, different places and everything had to be hand written >> >> Jane >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "gordon crooks" <glcrooks@bcpl.net> >> To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 7:57 PM >> Subject: Re: [Antrim] Belfast 1901 Census - Heads of Household >> >> >>> Jane: I have run across this several times and have never understood >>> it. I keep seeing statements that certain documents were destroyed in >>> Dublin, to what are they referring to fire or somnething else? >> >> >> ============================== >> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >> marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >> >> > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >
Concerning the STRONG family which emigrated from Belfast to Auckland NZ in 1875: the STRONG website http://www.pnc.com.au/~plstrong/ has been further updated ......... look forward to comments. When you navigate to our site, click on the following left hand buttons for the revised sections: Left hand button: Stayed in Belfast ..........nine more names and addresses of STRONG(E)s in Belfast from 1900 to 1912, now making a total of 96 STRONG(E) records Left hand button: DNA .......... Out of 6 living possibilities for our family, I have provided one DNA sample, and the results are discussed. .. with the surprising possibility that our family could be (very) distantly related to the Rev.Sir James Stronge 1st Baronet of Tynan Abbey, County Armagh, Ireland, who was created Baronet in 1803 My great grandfather Robert only had 5 grand sons (all deceased), 4 g-g sons (all living), 2 g-g-g sons (all living) who are in a direct line from Robert. There are no g-g-g-g sons with the name STRONG on the horizon at all, thus this family's STRONG name will probably die out, and the possibilities for male DNA testing will also disappear. Left hand button: Similar? ........an obvious genetic technique is to ask. "do they look similar?" Let's use this on a problem photo which looks like a probable family reunion of my father's families and examine contrasting photos. .Left hand buttons: Robt G.D. AND Robt G.D.GFX ....... a start on a biography of my father, which includes a photogallery with 15 photos and associated text, with focus on significant periods in my father's life. -- **Philip Strong**Email:plstrong@pnc.com.au**Blue Mountains, Australia** Interest:STRONG(E)s of Drumbo,Knocknagoney,Belfast Ireland early 1800's then New Zealand and Australia after 1875. See web site "STRONGs of Ulster,Ireland" http://www.pnc.com.au/~plstrong/
Gordon, As if that wasn't bad enough ...... There is almost a complete lack of census material.... Full government censuses were taken of the whole of Ireland in 1821, 1831, 1841, 1851, 1861, 1871, 1881, 1891 1901, and 1911. The first four, for 1821, 1831, 1841, and 1851, were largely destroyed in 1922, in the Four Courts fire. There are a few surviving fragments. .. Wait for it ...... those for 1861 1871 1881 and 1891 were completely destroyed earlier, by order of the government. This is why we who want to research our Irish ancestors must resort to the census substitutes, Griffiths, Valuation Office Records, Tithe Applotment Books and the like. Eleanor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. Jane Lyons" <sniliaghin@iol.ie> To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [Antrim] Belfast 1901 Census - Heads of Household > Gordon, > > Back in 1922, we had a civil war in Ireland - and at that time, the Four > Courts was our National Archives - or - Public Records Office (PRO). > > Ireland was still not a Republic and she was still part of the United > Kingdom of Great Britain. Somewhere, not to long before 1922, a decision > was made that all parish registers or copies of them should be lodged in > the PRO. > > Anyway - we're a great country for not doing as we're told - or, taking > our time about doing it. So, the majority of the Church of Ireland parish > records were lodged with the PRO around about the time that they were > supposed to be..........the Cartholics were a bit slower about doing what > they ought to have..............and mind you, not all Protestant parishes > complied on time > > During the civil war, there was a battle/fight between a group who were > hiding/ensconced in the Four Courts (the PRO) and another - during that > fight, the Four Courts went on FIRE - and, everything in it. Everybody > these days just refers to it as the fire in the Four Courts...........and > says 'everything was destroyed > > That 'everything' included all kinds of records...............including > parish records and wills. > > After 1922, a huge effort was made to try and recover 'copies' of records. > Few things survived that fire in perfection. If you're ever in the > National Archives in Dublin - you'll see that in lots of places the > Marriage Licence Bond books on shelves are sellotaped > together............bits of pages missing - things like that. > > When people say that everything was lost, then, for the most part they are > referring to non-Catholic parish registers - about 65% of them were burned > to bits (they were supposed to have been copied before they were sent to > the PRO, but they weren't) - the majority of the wills that had been > lodged were lost............ > > But - we do stil have the 1901 and 1911 censuses - we do have will and > deed abstracts from 1858 - we do have the Tithe books, the Griffiths - we > do have lots of material that was transcribed by wonderful genealogists > way beyond our time in the past, but way ahead of us because they werer > interested in genealogy way back when it was not 'popular' - if I'm not > confusing you by seemingly contradicting myself with that statement. > > Not all Irelands records were lost - the worst thing that was lost, was > those parish records............ > > But even there, for everyone, regardless of their religion - there's > always the possibility that their ancestor was mentioned in the Minute > books of a parish - Minute Bookswere not sent to Dublin. We have all the > Quaker records going back to the 1660's. We've got lots of > records............ > > But that's no obvious good to someone interested in a particular set of > records that were destroyed. > > There's more to it Gordon, relating to Wills and land administrations and > the movement from Dioscescan archives to Dublin (PRO) and loss of things > before they ever got to Dublin. > > Different times, different places and everything had to be hand written > > Jane > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "gordon crooks" <glcrooks@bcpl.net> > To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 7:57 PM > Subject: Re: [Antrim] Belfast 1901 Census - Heads of Household > > >> Jane: I have run across this several times and have never understood it. >> I keep seeing statements that certain documents were destroyed in Dublin, >> to what are they referring to fire or somnething else? > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >
Were the street names (or heads of family names?) beginning with A, B and C? Just asking. Alice in Georgia
Gordon, Back in 1922, we had a civil war in Ireland - and at that time, the Four Courts was our National Archives - or - Public Records Office (PRO). Ireland was still not a Republic and she was still part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain. Somewhere, not to long before 1922, a decision was made that all parish registers or copies of them should be lodged in the PRO. Anyway - we're a great country for not doing as we're told - or, taking our time about doing it. So, the majority of the Church of Ireland parish records were lodged with the PRO around about the time that they were supposed to be..........the Cartholics were a bit slower about doing what they ought to have..............and mind you, not all Protestant parishes complied on time During the civil war, there was a battle/fight between a group who were hiding/ensconced in the Four Courts (the PRO) and another - during that fight, the Four Courts went on FIRE - and, everything in it. Everybody these days just refers to it as the fire in the Four Courts...........and says 'everything was destroyed That 'everything' included all kinds of records...............including parish records and wills. After 1922, a huge effort was made to try and recover 'copies' of records. Few things survived that fire in perfection. If you're ever in the National Archives in Dublin - you'll see that in lots of places the Marriage Licence Bond books on shelves are sellotaped together............bits of pages missing - things like that. When people say that everything was lost, then, for the most part they are referring to non-Catholic parish registers - about 65% of them were burned to bits (they were supposed to have been copied before they were sent to the PRO, but they weren't) - the majority of the wills that had been lodged were lost............ But - we do stil have the 1901 and 1911 censuses - we do have will and deed abstracts from 1858 - we do have the Tithe books, the Griffiths - we do have lots of material that was transcribed by wonderful genealogists way beyond our time in the past, but way ahead of us because they werer interested in genealogy way back when it was not 'popular' - if I'm not confusing you by seemingly contradicting myself with that statement. Not all Irelands records were lost - the worst thing that was lost, was those parish records............ But even there, for everyone, regardless of their religion - there's always the possibility that their ancestor was mentioned in the Minute books of a parish - Minute Bookswere not sent to Dublin. We have all the Quaker records going back to the 1660's. We've got lots of records............ But that's no obvious good to someone interested in a particular set of records that were destroyed. There's more to it Gordon, relating to Wills and land administrations and the movement from Dioscescan archives to Dublin (PRO) and loss of things before they ever got to Dublin. Different times, different places and everything had to be hand written Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "gordon crooks" <glcrooks@bcpl.net> To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [Antrim] Belfast 1901 Census - Heads of Household > Jane: I have run across this several times and have never understood it. > I keep seeing statements that certain documents were destroyed in Dublin, > to what are they referring to fire or somnething else?
The names of approximately 4,000 Heads of Household who lived on a number of streets with names beginning A, B, or C have been loaded to the From Ireland web site. You will find the link under the Name Lists/Databases heading on my Antrim page at: http://www.from-ireland.net/contents/antrimcont.htm There are also 573 references to marriage records ; 462 Death records, and 566 birth records refs from the Irish Civil Registers for the Belfast Civil Registration District. The Larne, Lisburn and Lurgan district refs will be updated in the next week. Jane
Thank you for your explanation, its pretty much what I expected to hear. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. Jane Lyons" <sniliaghin@iol.ie> To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [Antrim] Belfast 1901 Census - Heads of Household > Gordon, > > Back in 1922, we had a civil war in Ireland - and at that time, the Four > Courts was our National Archives - or - Public Records Office (PRO). > > Ireland was still not a Republic and she was still part of the United > Kingdom of Great Britain. Somewhere, not to long before 1922, a decision > was made that all parish registers or copies of them should be lodged in > the PRO. > > Anyway - we're a great country for not doing as we're told - or, taking > our time about doing it. So, the majority of the Church of Ireland parish > records were lodged with the PRO around about the time that they were > supposed to be..........the Cartholics were a bit slower about doing what > they ought to have..............and mind you, not all Protestant parishes > complied on time > > During the civil war, there was a battle/fight between a group who were > hiding/ensconced in the Four Courts (the PRO) and another - during that > fight, the Four Courts went on FIRE - and, everything in it. Everybody > these days just refers to it as the fire in the Four Courts...........and > says 'everything was destroyed > > That 'everything' included all kinds of records...............including > parish records and wills. > > After 1922, a huge effort was made to try and recover 'copies' of records. > Few things survived that fire in perfection. If you're ever in the > National Archives in Dublin - you'll see that in lots of places the > Marriage Licence Bond books on shelves are sellotaped > together............bits of pages missing - things like that. > > When people say that everything was lost, then, for the most part they are > referring to non-Catholic parish registers - about 65% of them were burned > to bits (they were supposed to have been copied before they were sent to > the PRO, but they weren't) - the majority of the wills that had been > lodged were lost............ > > But - we do stil have the 1901 and 1911 censuses - we do have will and > deed abstracts from 1858 - we do have the Tithe books, the Griffiths - we > do have lots of material that was transcribed by wonderful genealogists > way beyond our time in the past, but way ahead of us because they werer > interested in genealogy way back when it was not 'popular' - if I'm not > confusing you by seemingly contradicting myself with that statement. > > Not all Irelands records were lost - the worst thing that was lost, was > those parish records............ > > But even there, for everyone, regardless of their religion - there's > always the possibility that their ancestor was mentioned in the Minute > books of a parish - Minute Bookswere not sent to Dublin. We have all the > Quaker records going back to the 1660's. We've got lots of > records............ > > But that's no obvious good to someone interested in a particular set of > records that were destroyed. > > There's more to it Gordon, relating to Wills and land administrations and > the movement from Dioscescan archives to Dublin (PRO) and loss of things > before they ever got to Dublin. > > Different times, different places and everything had to be hand written > > Jane > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "gordon crooks" <glcrooks@bcpl.net> > To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 7:57 PM > Subject: Re: [Antrim] Belfast 1901 Census - Heads of Household > > >> Jane: I have run across this several times and have never understood it. >> I keep seeing statements that certain documents were destroyed in Dublin, >> to what are they referring to fire or somnething else? > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >
Church Photos on my web site at the link below. Alternatively, type: Jean McCarthy into the GOOGLE search engine for a direct link. I have added a few more photographs of churches to my web site. These have been kindly donated by a friend of genealogy. The new photos of the churches are: The old Presbyterian Church Templepatrick, St John’s Church of Ireland Donegore, St Patrick’s Church of Ireland Seaptrick Parish, St Patrick’s Church of Ireland Templepatrick, Tullylish Presbyterian Church. Very many thanks to the very kind person who shared these photos with us all. I hope to add more photos of churches in the future as and when they are donated for the web site. Kindest Regards. Jean McCarthy nee Moore. Staffordshire, England. My own main names of interest: MOORE, (Ireland, Canada & Australia) BOWDEN, (Ireland, New Zealand, Tasmania & Australia) HAWTHORNE. (Ireland and Pennsylvania) In Co Down, Co Armagh & Co Antrim Ireland: McCALLISTER, McAULEY, FLINN, STRAIN, SPRATT, McCLENAGHAN & KENNEDY. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jeanmccarthy36/
Jane: I have run across this several times and have never understood it. I keep seeing statements that certain documents were destroyed in Dublin, to what are they referring to fire or somnething else? Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. Jane Lyons" <sniliaghin@iol.ie> To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 3:10 PM Subject: [Antrim] Belfast 1901 Census - Heads of Household > The names of approximately 4,000 Heads of Household who lived on a number > of streets with names beginning A, B, or C have been loaded to the From > Ireland web site. You will find the link under the Name Lists/Databases > heading on my Antrim page at: > > http://www.from-ireland.net/contents/antrimcont.htm > > There are also 573 references to marriage records ; 462 Death records, and > 566 birth records refs from the Irish Civil Registers for the Belfast > Civil Registration District. The Larne, Lisburn and Lurgan district refs > will be updated in the next week. > > Jane > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >
Hi Sande, You don't mention where in Antrim, you think your ancestors are from, if you know it already, so the best place would be of course to visit there. - If you're unsure, its best to start at the Public Records Office (PRONI) in Belfast. (www.proni.gov.uk) Its free to use. Remember to take ID, notepad & pencil (no pens in reading room). There are microfiche records of church registers, griffiths land valuation of tenants and householders (from 1860s), [Free index search for Ballymoney parish in Antrim at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/4592/grifbmp.html, which includes DOUGLAS] and census information from 1901 & surviving fragments of the 1851 census for County Antrim (which are also free on-line at http://1851.4t.com/) - If your ancestors are recent, you can pay to search the databases at the GRONI (General Records Office Northern Ireland), www.groni.gov.uk. Some records may however be held in Dublin, for registration pre-1922. There are computerised indexes of birth, marriage & death certificates for the whole of Northern Ireland. You then need to go to the local town hall/parish or church to see the actual certificates. You will pay again for another search and a look at a certificate. This should cost about approx 10-15 pounds sterling. For example, if your ancestor is from Ballymoney, there will be a listing on the index at GRONI in Belfast, but to see the actual certificate, you will need to go to the town hall in Ballymoney, or to the church in Ballymoney where the event was registered. If you want to use this facility, its good to book it in advance, as there are only a very limited number of places in the search room. - Linenhall library, www.linenhall.com, is a beautiful old library in the centre of Belfast with lots of books on history, general family records, trade directories, passenger emigration lists, etc. - Once you know the towns and/or villages where your ancestors were born, married or died, its a good idea to visit the local churches or cemeteries. You can find lists of these in books about Ireland at PRONI (e.g. there is a Veritas Catholic directory of Catholic churches in Ireland) or sometimes via links on genealogical websites, such as www.genuki.org.uk. I've found many priests and clergymen in Northern Ireland very friendly, and you can go to look for free in their old parish registers. Of course, often registers are missing, and sometimes a baptismal register may be held by a church and the marriage register held in the local council offices or vice versa. For deaths (especially in the twentieth century), I went to look at inscriptions on gravestones for more clues. - If your ancestors were from the Ballymoney area, there is a great website called www.ballymoneyancestry.com, where you can search various records for free. It has been set up by the town council, who are creating a museum about Ballymoney. - I would definitely recommend a visit to the Ulster American Folk Park outside Omagh [www.folkpark.com], which has exhibitions about emigration to North America & the history. There is also a genealogy centre with an emigration database, see links on the site. - Northern Ireland tourist office is online at www.visitnorthernireland.com, with info about accommodation, sight-seeing, etc. Good luck. Michelle NIR-ANTRIM-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:39:08 -0500 From: "Sande" <sanmike@tds.net> To: NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Visit in May to do research Hello list We will be visiting County Antrim in May to go through some Church records and County records. Where is the best place to do this? My family names are Dryden, Dooley and Douglass. Does anyone have a recommendation on a nice B&B or reasonably priced hotel which would be convenient. Thank you, Sande , --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less.
McKENZIE ~ O'NEIL ~ SULLIVAN ~ SHEEHAN ~ MADDEN ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Greeting All , TIA for any help. New brickwall break thru passenger records : PASSENGER LISTS Year Name Place Origin Depart. Destin. ------ -------- ---------------------- ---------- ---------- 1880 John* (Brother) Ireland Liverpool, Eng New York (Ire Visit) Queenstown, Ire 1895 Elizabeth (Sister) Ballymoney Liverpool, Eng Boston (b.June1841or47) (Last Residence) -------------------------------- *To America (thru Canada ?) 1872 & b.c. Aug. 1848 Ire. Father Daniel b.c. 1820. I previously found a Daniel McKenzie in the 1842 Belfast directory and in Co. Derry Magherafelt (Griffiths 1862). Can you help me prioritize going forth with the Ballymoney e.g. Antrim Civ.P. & Ballymoney Civ.P in Co. Derry as well s Ballymoney twnlds in Shankill & Islandmagee. Also Co. Down has a Ballymoney spread over 5 Civ.P ? Is the Queenstown, Ire departure of any help ? Good luck and all the best with your family search . . . kind regards , Walt McK. www.remember-9-11.com *************************************************************** " Due to immigration, after the 1840's Ireland famine, over 33% of Boston's population were from Ireland & Scotland. By 1870 2.5 million, 1900 over 40% and 5 million today are of Irish ancestors." Ireland 7 million Irish Descent : America 50 million ~ Britain 8 million ~ Australia 3 million Canada ? million 1872-1971 Grandpa Walt McKENZIE, Sr. NJ Shore, USA (b. Boston/Somerville*, MA) *Som. in Middlesex Co. has the most of Irish descent with 400,000. WaltIrish@comcast.net Search priorities : Ire ~ Eng ~ Scot 1681-1895 1873-1907 To 1680 " The marvelous Central NJ Shore area, like Boston, has wonderful Ireland & Scotland roots. The first St. Patrick's holiday was declared 3 / 17 / 1780 by General Washington in Morristown, NJ. Kerny, NJ has a large well-known Scottish community. In 2000, Spring Lake, NJ population was 53% of Irish descent followed by Avon & Sea Girt. Then there is the large annual Belmar, NJ St. Patty's Day parade. Today overall, NJ has 1.4 million or 18% of the population claiming to be of Irish descent." **************************************************************** -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.0 - Release Date: 3/21/2005
Belfast Weekly News January 5 1895: Marriage: LAW � MAGEE: December 22 at St Patricks Ballymaccarrett by the Rev. Mr Mervyn, Samuel, second son of Thomas Law, of Govan, Glasgow, to Minnie, only daughter of the late Andrew Magee of Antrim. Deaths: KIRKWOOD: December 27, at Monkshill, Ballygomartin, Mary, beloved wife of James Kirkwood. KIRKWOOD: December 28, at his residence, Robert Kirkwood, Grocer and Feuar MCKEE: December 29 1894, at Killyvolgan, Robert McKee, aged 86 years. Missing Friends: BELL: John Bell wishes to know the whereabouts of his cousin, Robert Bell Nesbitt, who left Belfast about nine years ago; last heard of at Port Said on his way to Australia. Any information concerning him will be thankfully received; 64 Excise Street, Belfast. Australian papers please copy. HURELL: Wanted to know the whereabouts of Lavinia Hurell, who emigrated to Australia about 40 years ago, and was last heard of about 3 years ago; was then living in Geelong, Victoria, Australia. Any information concerning her will be thankfully received by her uncle John Devlin, Main Street, Maghera, County Derry. Ireland. Australian papers please copy. KENNEDY: Wanted to know the whereabouts of James Kennedy, who emigrated to Australia about ten years ago. He lived in Goraghwood, near Newry, County Armagh, and carried on the business of a farmer. Was last heard of about three years ago working in the silver mines, Broken Hill, New South Wales, Australia. Any information will be thankfully received by his sister, Agnes Tate, 124 Grosvenor Road, Belfast, County Antrim. Australian papers please copy. M�BRIDE: Wanted to know the address of Mr Robert M�Bride supposed to be in Belfast, and who has not been heard of since 1883. Any information will be thankfully received by Wm. James Little, Royal Canadian Regiment, Stanley Barracks, Toronto, Canada. M�DONALD: Wanted to know the whereabouts of any of the friends of Michael M�Donald, who went to America in 1849 or 1850; his father was a shipcarpenter, living in Lombard Street, Dublin, his mothers maiden name was Mary Ann Wade. If any of his friends see this, address Medora, Billings County, North Dakota. PATTERSON: A.S.Patterson, son of the late Alexander Patterson and grandson of late Mr Patterson, of Lincoln, would like to hear from his uncle Robert or aunt Anne or Anna;- Apply to Mr Thompson, stationer, Donegall Street, Belfast. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Hi all, Second apology of the night for not snipping my post, second part of which was not meant for general consumption. Apologies to Teresa. Thats what I get for being on the computer with 3 kids vying for my attention. Brian --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!
Hi all, I was going through some of my notes and thought I would post details on some Corrs which I came across in Belfast 1901. The Corrs in Pinkerton Street are connected to my tree, so I would love to hear from anyone who may have info. on them. I'm not too sure about the others but thought I would post them anyway. 67 Nail Street: John Corr ,RC, 38 Yrs, Iron turner, born Co TYrone. Catherine Corr, wife, 38 yrs, born Co Tyrone. Annie Corr, Daughter, 13 yrs, born Co Tyrone, John Corr, Son, 10 yrs, born Co Tyrone, Mary Corr, daughter, 9 yrs, born Cork. Gertrude Corr, daughter, 6 yrs, born Belfast. Blind. Maggie Corr, daughter, 3 yrs, born Belfast. 21 Getty Street, Charles Corr, 24 yrs, blacksmith, born Co TYrone Mary Ann Corr, 26 yrs, Linen Weaver, born Co Monaghan Patrick Corr, aged 2 yrs, born Belfast City. Elizabeth Corr, age 1, born Belfast City. Ann Hughes( mother in law) 62 yrs, widow, born Co Monaghan Elizabeth Hughes (sister in law) 22 yrs, not married, born Co Monaghan. 27 McDonald Street. Edward Corr, RC, 40 yrs, artizan general, married, born Antrim Jane Corr, wife, 38 yrs, winder (flax), born Antrim Mary E Corr, daughter, 4 yrs, Mary Cairns, sister in law, 45 yrs, unemployed winder, born Antrim 9 Pinkerton Street: Bridget Corr, RC, 45 yrs, married,born Co Tyrone. John Corr, son, 17 yrs, general labourer, not married, born England. Ann Corr, daughter, 18 yrs, flax spinner, not married, born England. Kate Corr, daughter, 15 yrs, Flax Spinner, born Belfast City. Bridget Corr, daughter, 11 yrs, Flax Cager, not married, born Belfat City. BESSIEBOOH@aol.com wrote: Hi again Thanks for trying to locate my infamous relatives I suppose they would've died in the late 1920s but knowing my dad................................... The Corrs I think were spinster sisters who could have lived in and around the Falls Milan Street Servia Street Ross Street. i believe it was common practice in those days for more than one family to live together in these small houses. My father and his siblings all had a Corr on their baptismal cert as a sponsor/ Kathleen Corr Mary and Josephine Corr their names appear on copys of certs from St Peters. I have been watching St peters on the internet and wonder if my late father would have worshipped here? maybe not as I think St Pauls is closer to Milan street? Many thanks Kind regards Teresa --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!
Hello list We will be visiting County Antrim in May to go through some Church records and County records. Where is the best place to do this? My family names are Dryden, Dooley and Douglass. Does anyone have a recommendation on a nice B&B or reasonably priced hotel which would be convenient. Thank you, Sande ,
Hello. I am looking for this woman in cos. Antrim, Tyrone, or Armagh. Does anyone recognize her? HAYDOCK/HADDOCK, Mary, b. abt 1774, Co. Tyrone or Co. Armagh, NIR, d. aft. 1814, Muskingum Co., OH, USA. She md. about 1790 in Co. Tyrone or Co. Armagh, NIR, Victor GATES, b. 1763, Dungannon, Tyrone, NIR. Mary and Victor and their seven children, left Ireland and arrived in the USA, near Philadlephia, PA on 20 Sep. 1811, then moved on to Zanesville, Muskingum, Ohio by 1815. I would like birth and marriage information for Victor and Mary, and information about Mary's parents. I believe Mary and her parents were Quakers. Thank you. David Demeaux, demeaux@yahoo.com David & Evalyn Demeaux 40705 Malibar Ave. Hemet, CA, 92544-7322 Ph: (951) 925-5505 Email: demeaux@yahoo.com
Greetings. I am looking for this family in cos. Tyrone, Armagh, and Antrim. Does anyone recognize them? GATES, Victor, b. abt. 1763, Dungannon, Tyrone, NIR, md. abt 1790, Dungannon, Tyrone, NIR, to Mary HADDOCK,/HAYCOCK b. abt 1763, Dungannon, Tyrone, NIR. Victor, Mary and 7 children arrived at Philadelphia, PA, USA on 20 Sep 1811, moved to Pittsburg, PA, USA, then to Muskingum Co. OH, USA by Apr 1814 where he purchased land.(According to an affidavit he signed on 23 Mar. 1813 and gave to the marshall , he arrived in America on 20 Sep. 1811. He is shown on that affidavit with his wife, and 8 children. His granddaughter, Victoria L. said they arrived from Belfast, Ireland at Philadelphia in 1812, then went on to Pittsburg, then on to Zanesville). Their son Victor was b. abt. 1792, in Dungannon, md. in Zanesville, Muskingum, OH, 19 Sep 1820 to Ann WILLEY. I would like to have more info. on the parents of Victor GATES and Mary HADDOCK/HAYDOCK. I would appreciate any help. Thanks. David Demeaux, demeaux@yahoo.com David & Evalyn Demeaux 40705 Malibar Ave. Hemet, CA, 92544-7322 Ph: (951) 925-5505 Email: demeaux@yahoo.com