Especially for Jean McCarthy and for Paula - My own male ancestor from Antrim, Archy Wiseman (1813 -1853) left there in 1833 (from Ballywatermoy Townland in what was then Ahoghill Parish), with a lady who I presume may have been his wife (even though he was only 20 years old). The 1833 Ordnance Survey for Antrim County states that he (and she) were "bound for America." However, he and his companion /lady/wife/sister (?) did not ship out to New York from Liverpool until 1836, so I have assumed that they had to work somewhere in order to earn the transatlantic passage money. They arrived in New York, and the next thing I know about him is that in December, 1838, he had married an entirely different lady in Newburgh, NY, where his older brother and the brothers' family had already settled. This later union is one of the many ancestral connections ultimately that have permitted me to exis today.t. Where Archy worked to earn passage is unknown, but it surely wasn't back in Ballywatermoy. Bob Wilson Stamford, CT The Bark "Lanark" brought A. Wiseman from Liverpool in 1836. The ship "Adam Carr" brought the J. McNeals from Glasgow in 1845 The ship "Macedonia" maybe brought J. Gaffney from Liverpool in 1846. The ship "Underwriter" brought C. Cavanaugh from Liverpool in 1853. The M. Redmonds came over from County Wexford to Illinois in 1850. --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

In a message dated 10/25/2005 7:34:57 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, JeanMcCarthy36@aol.com writes: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jeanmccarthy36/ Good Morning Jean, Would you kindly update us as you move along in the alphabet? I am searching for my G-G-Grandfather, James Knight. I know he was in Liverpool in 1851, because that's the year he sailed for NY from Liverpool. I would be most interested if he appears in the 1851 census. There was a "Mary" Knight listed just under his name in the Ship's roster of names, and I have always wondered if this was his sister. Thanks so much for taking the time and effort to transcribe this 1851 census, it is important because many of our Irish ancestors were in Liverpool, trying to earn passage money for the US. Thanks again for this great project! Paula

First of all I want to say a BIG thank you to all of you who took the time to email me with some great information as to boundaries and townland changes since 1900. I was not aware of those changes. Some of you could not help but, gave me some other ideas and for this I thank you. Kind regards, Shar/ USA sar5r@yahoo.com "One Nation Under God" --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

1851 Census Index Liverpool—Irish born on my web site at the link below. Alternatively type Jean McCarthy into the Google search engine for a direct link. I have added very many more records to the Index for the 1851 Census for Liverpool Irish born people. This is rather a large project which will take time to complete. Especially as particular attention is being paid to accuracy. So far the full Introduction of the Index, explanatory notes and abbreviations, Chapman Codes as well as all the surnames beginning with A has been transcribed. Since then I have been working non-stop on transcribing the surnames beginning with B. There are a great number of them so it is taking longer to complete this section than I had anticipated. However, I have now posted all the surnames beginning with B that I have transcribed so far. (BAC to BIN) I will endeavour to transcribe the entire Index as soon as possible. I hope this helps at least some of you with your research. Kind Regards. Jean McCarthy nee Moore. Staffordshire, England. My own main names of interest: MOORE, (Ireland, Canada & Australia) BOWDEN, (Ireland, New Zealand, Tasmania & Australia) HAWTHORNE. (Ireland and Pennsylvania) In Co Down, Co Armagh & Co Antrim Ireland: McCALLISTER, McAULEY, FLINN, STRAIN, SPRATT, McCLENAGHAN & KENNEDY. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jeanmccarthy36/

To Sharon, re: HATTON - Keep in mind that, at least in the middle of the 19th Century in Antrim, there was an Ahoghill "Parish" as well as a village/settlement of the same name. For example, ancestry in my WISEMAN line can be located in the "Townland" of Ballywatermoy in Ahoghill "Parish" back in the 1830's, but more recently, Ballywatermoy is listed as being in Craigs "Parish". I assume that at some point, the Parish boundaries were redrawn. Bob Wilson Stamford, CT, USA . Sharon <sar5r@yahoo.com> wrote: Does anyone have access to the 1900 Ahoghill census? If you do, WSKS please do a look up for a HATTON family living in Ahoghill and having a son born circa 1893, making this son about 7 yrs. of age and his name is John HATTON. I would like to know all who are living in the home with this child and anything else there might be. Thank you so much for your time and efforts. I appreciate. Shar sar5r@yahoo.com "One Nation Under God" --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx The Bark "Lanark" brought A. Wiseman from Liverpool in 1836. The ship "Adam Carr" brought the J. McNeals from Glasgow in 1845 The ship "Macedonia" maybe brought J. Gaffney from Liverpool in 1846. The ship "Underwriter" brought C. Cavanaugh from Liverpool in 1853. The M. Redmonds came over from County Wexford to Illinois in 1850. --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

Does anyone have access to the 1900 Ahoghill census? If you do, WSKS please do a look up for a HATTON family living in Ahoghill and having a son born circa 1893, making this son about 7 yrs. of age and his name is John HATTON. I would like to know all who are living in the home with this child and anything else there might be. Thank you so much for your time and efforts. I appreciate. Shar sar5r@yahoo.com "One Nation Under God" --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.

Can anyone help me locate a middle school in Antrim who would like to share a relationship with a sister school in Greencastle, Pa., USA. I am looking for a public or private Protestant school grades 6-8. Greencastle was originally settled by Ulsterscots in the 1730's. If any scholl is found to be interested please forward me a e mail address and I will pass it on the the school principal. Gordon Crooks glcrooks@bcpl.net

Greeting All , My first 2 Irish male ancestors that came to America in their early 20's . . . John 1871-72 via Quebec & Geo 1907 via NYC. Both sets of parents were b. Ire as was John b. 1848. Geo was b. 1887 Eng. Geo lived in Yorkshire, No.Eng and sailed from Glasgow. John sailed from Glasgow while his sister Eliz. sailed to Amer. 1895 via Queenstown, Cork, Ire to Liverpool, Eng and then to Boston, US. All the ship info matches well for John & Geo (b. year , farmer etc,) except for nationality of Scotch. I'm pretty sure these are my correct ancestors. I suspect that either 1) agent just assumed and wrote down Scotch for McKenzie or 2) it was less of a problem at the time to give Scotch not Irish to sail etc. Does anyone with similar immigrat. info have other experience and/or explanation(s) ? Or was there a more specific reason one would give Scotch not Irish ? TIA . . . all the best , Walt -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.14/129 - Release Date: 10/11/2005

1851 Census Index Liverpool—Irish born on my web site at the link below. Alternatively type Jean McCarthy into the Google search engine for a direct link. I have commenced transcribing the Index for the 1851 Census for Liverpool Irish born people. The index not only gives the surname, folio number & piece number in abbreviated form i.e. 2176/1 but also includes the given name. occupation and place of birth. In the case of entries from piece no's HO 107/2186 to HO 107/2193 the age has also been included. This index is a listing of those people who gave Ireland, an Irish County or an Irish Town as their place of birth. It does not include other family members in the census returns who were not born in Ireland. To find family members born elsewhere then reference must be made to other LDS Census Indexes or PRO films. The indexed Piece No. and Folio for the Irish born person will make this step easy. The Piece and folio numbers will give the LDS film number if a search of the full census is required. This is rather a large project which will take time to complete. Especially as particular attention is being paid to accuracy. So far the full Introduction of the Index, explanatory notes and abbreviations, Chapman Codes as well as all the surnames beginning with A has been transcribed. I will endeavour to transcribe the entire Index as soon as possible. I hope this helps at least some of you with your research. Kind Regards. Jean McCarthy nee Moore. Staffordshire, England. My own main names of interest: MOORE, (Ireland, Canada & Australia) BOWDEN, (Ireland, New Zealand, Tasmania & Australia) HAWTHORNE. (Ireland and Pennsylvania) In Co Down, Co Armagh & Co Antrim Ireland: McCALLISTER, McAULEY, FLINN, STRAIN, SPRATT, McCLENAGHAN & KENNEDY. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jeanmccarthy36/

Listers, I've put up a web site with pictures of a lot of NI, notably Antrim, Down, including some of Downpatrick, and Belfast area. There is a guestbook link too should you feel the desire to comment on the images. http://www.airriess.net/assets/2005Vacationindex.htm Thanks for your time, Andy Airriess

Would like to be there. Kath N S W ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Johnston" <petenv@optusnet.com.au> To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 10:44 AM Subject: [Antrim] AUSTRALIA - MELBOURNE - Irish Festival > For those of us lucky to be living in the hub of Australian Festivals and > Exhibitions [Melbourne] I thought this may be of interest. >

For those of us lucky to be living in the hub of Australian Festivals and Exhibitions [Melbourne] I thought this may be of interest. Best Wishes Don in Melbourne AU Irish Festival at the Immigration Museum - Sunday October 9 (11am to 4pm). The Immigration Museum will celebrate Victoria’s Irish community with fabulous festival of music and dance. Join us for a fabulous festival of music and dance, as we celebrate Victoria’s Irish community at the Immigration Museum. Get in touch with your inner Irishness by taking a dance workshop, learning to play the bodhrán or spinning a Gaelic tale! If that's not enough, you can get serious on researching your family’s Irish heritage with advice from the Irish Genealogical Society. Event type: Activity Price: Free with Museum entry. Date: 9/10/2005 Days: Sunday Session Times: 11.00 am-4.00 pm Bookings: Not required Phone: 03 9927 2700 Fax: 03 9927 2728 Email: HYPERLINK "mailto:imenq@museum.vic.gov.au"imenq@museum.vic.gov.au Venue: Immigration Museum Address: Old Customs House, 400 Flinders Street, Melbourne Melway reference: 1A F10 Map link: HYPERLINK "http://immigration.museum.vic.gov.au/visiting/get_here.asp"Click Web: HYPERLINK "http://immigration.museum.vic.gov.au/"http://immigration.museum.vic.gov.au/ HYPERLINK "http://immigration.museum.vic.gov.au/whats_on/show.asp?ID=561926&venue=1002 &type=&query=&schools=0&days=0&page=1&dc=9&mth=10&yr=2005"http://immigration .museum.vic.gov.au/whats_on/show.asp?ID=561926&venue=1002&type=&query=&schoo ls=0&days=0&page=1&dc=9&mth=10&yr=2005 Co-Moderator: HYPERLINK "http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CampbellsAustralia"http://groups.yahoo.com/gr oup/CampbellsAustralia Co-Moderator: HYPERLINK "http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JohnstonAustralia"http://groups.yahoo.com/gro up/JohnstonAustralia Co-Moderator: HYPERLINK "http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Irishancestorsgroup"http://groups.yahoo.com/g roup/Irishancestorsgroup Ours: HYPERLINK "http://www.geocities.com/johnstonoz/"http://www.geocities.com/johnstonoz/ Editor: Clan Johnston/e Assn' of Australia HYPERLINK "http://www.johnston.asn.au/"http://www.johnston.asn.au/ Co Admin': NIRE Genweb HYPERLINK "http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirantri/"http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirantri/ CO' Antrim -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.8/114 - Release Date: 28/09/2005

James CAREY, Lost in Oz - but not forgotten And if you come, when all the flowers are dying And I am dead, as dead I well may be You'll come and find the place where I am lying And kneel and say an "Ave" there for me. A gravestone in the RC parish cemetery in Dunloy, County Antrim, N. Ireland bears an inscription which begins “Erected by John CAREY in memory of his beloved mother Margaret CAREY who died in 1903 and his father Richard CAREY who died 1908 aged 81 years”. It ends with “also his uncle, James CAREY, who died in Australia in 1889, aged 72 years”. As Richard CAREY was my maternal great grandfather I enquired about his brother. No documentation remained about James CAREY so the date he sailed on (and with whom) the ship which carried him there and from whence, its port and date of arrival, what he worked at or where and the site of his grave, are all unrecorded. Oral history recollects James as arriving and living in Melbourne as a bachelor and, before he died, willing his property to his relatives at Glenbuck Townland, Rasharkin Civil Parish, County Antrim. Eventually, subsequent to probate, some £800 pounds was allegedly transferred to Ireland (around £60,000 - $Au 143,241.76 in 2005 terms) and distributed among his nephews and nieces. This injection of funds (and possibly previous sums) allowed the family, back home, to invest in businesses and farms and laid the foundation of their subsequent prosperity. One of his nephews, John Carey used his share to buy a farm in Gortgole (Rasharkin) about 1912, and his niece Ellen, (my grandmother), used her portion to purchase a leather workshop and two shops in Ballymena (Co. Antrim). Several family descendants are millionaires, some several times over and one is a Papal Knight of the Order of St. Gregory. Many others have succeeded in commerce and the professions and some have scaled the heights of academia. At least 7 entered and served in the priesthood throughout their lives at home and abroad. Their genealogy can be viewed by typing “Postman Bill” into the Google search engine. Death certificate requests to the various Australian states (except Tasmania) and a search of the Oz probate records by Genfindit did not yield any positive information. Efforts by various kind Aussie E-list members were to no avail. James left an impoverished Ireland for Australia in the desperate times of the1846-1850 potato famine. His subsequent lonely efforts down under fueled the progress of those he left behind and they represent a disproportionately large contribution by an individual to the prosperity of his relatives. A number of Carey descendants are now living in Australia. These and any visitors from back home would like to visit James’s last resting-place. They could kneel there among the microlaena grass under the Eucalyptus trees and intone an Ave for the repose of his soul. And I shall hear, tho' soft you tread above me And all my dreams will warm and sweeter be If you'll not fail to tell me that you love me I'll simply sleep in peace until you come to me. Liam "A bird in the bush is worth two in the cat

Jane, How can I follow up on a name on the list? I'm interested in finding out more about a James Crawford that appears on the list. Is there a way to find out spouse's name or children? I've been searching for my James Crawford's family in Armagh, but I have no proof of where he was born. I just have a 2nd marriage registration that states he was "from Co. Almagh." That is the way it is written on the record, Almagh and it doesn't say "where born", just "where from" and to me that could be open to interpretation. Thank you, Judy, in NC Dr. Jane Lyons wrote: I have indexed the names of the Immediate Lessors and Occupiers as listed in the Griffiths Primary Valuation for Aghagallon Civil Parish, Co. Antrim. The town is indexed separately to the rest of the parish The lists can be accessed by clicking the links below Jane http://www.from-ireland.net/griffiths/antim/aghagallon.htm New England Families: Alden, Allen, Barden, Blood, Bradford, Buckland, Eastman, Etheridge, Frost, George, Hyde, Moseley, Packard, Pinney, See, Swetland, White Northern Ireland Families: Crawford, Piercy I trace my family history so I will know who to blame......... --------------------------------- Yahoo! for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

Church Photos on my web site at the link below. Alternatively type Jean McCarthy into the Google search engine for a direct link. I have started a page of miscellaneous church photographs sent to me from all the kind fellow genealogists around the world. The first two photos (and only ones so far) on this page are of Trinity Church Belfast. They were kindly sent to me by Joan in Canada. Actually they are not photographs but seem to be drawings. It is wonderful to receive these images as photographs are not possible any more. Joan tells me that the church was destroyed in the 1940's. Presumably it was destroyed in the Blitz of Belfast in World War II. I expect confirmation of this shortly. Thank you so very much indeed Joan for sharing these wonderful pictures with us all. A fellow lister asked for a photograph of Broughshane First Presbyterian church which I have not got yet. Another kind lister sent a web site address which has the photograph that the first lister was looking for. I have written to the web site owner to ask permission to put the photographs of this church onto my web site. I will let you all know if and when I get a favourable reply. Kind Regards. Jean McCarthy nee Moore. Staffordshire, England. My own main names of interest: MOORE, (Ireland, Canada & Australia) BOWDEN, (Ireland, New Zealand, Tasmania & Australia) HAWTHORNE. (Ireland and Pennsylvania) In Co Down, Co Armagh & Co Antrim Ireland: McCALLISTER, McAULEY, FLINN, STRAIN, SPRATT, McCLENAGHAN & KENNEDY. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jeanmccarthy36/

The Chief Constables of the police force were required to write reports to their superiors on incidents in their localities. These reports are called 'Outrage Reports' and while not all are extant, some are and stored in the National Archives of Ireland. In these reports, we find the names of people who lived in parishes - the offenders and the victims - we find different spellings for townlands than we are normally used to. So, I've uploaded a page with some Antrim Outrages for December 1835 and January 1836. Parishes that are mentioned: Antrim , Loughguile, Ahoghill, Ballintoy and Newtown Crommellin Click on the link below Jane http://www.from-ireland.net/outrages/antrim.htm

I have indexed the names of the Immediate Lessors and Occupiers as listed in the Griffiths Primary Valuation for Aghagallon Civil Parish, Co. Antrim. The town is indexed separately to the rest of the parish The lists can be accessed by clicking the links below Jane http://www.from-ireland.net/griffiths/antim/aghagallon.htm

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Church Photos on my web site at the link below. Alternatively type Jean McCarthy into the Google search engine for a direct link. Our good friend Alison Causton in Canada has very kindly sent me new photographs of eleven Northern Ireland churches. The names and locations of the eleven different churches are: Church of Ireland Kilrea, Aghadowey Presbyterian Church County Derry, Drumagarner Road Roman Catholic Church Kilrea, Kilrea First Presbyterian Church, Kilrea Second Presbyterian Church, The Old Parish Church Kilrea, Sandholes Presbyterian Church County Tyrone, Caledon Church of Ireland County Tyrone, Carland Presbyterian Church County Tyrone, Aghadowey Church of Ireland County Derry and Minterburn Presbyterian Church County Tyrone. Thank you so very much indeed Alison for sharing these wonderful photos with us all. The new photographs can be found on Alison’s own page which has got a link near the top of the original church photos page. I have updated the list of names of churches whose photos are on my web site. Kind Regards. Jean McCarthy nee Moore. Staffordshire, England. My own main names of interest: MOORE, (Ireland, Canada & Australia) BOWDEN, (Ireland, New Zealand, Tasmania & Australia) HAWTHORNE. (Ireland and Pennsylvania) In Co Down, Co Armagh & Co Antrim Ireland: McCALLISTER, McAULEY, FLINN, STRAIN, SPRATT, McCLENAGHAN & KENNEDY. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jeanmccarthy36/

Mark Many thanks you email re the above subject. All around that area in Northern Ireland is a possibility for these elusive members of the SHANNON Clan. There son was born in Londonderry on the early Census and then Derry on others and I took this to mean the family stayed in the area. Confusing as others have advised me to check other areas around Northern Ireland. That is all I know Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From: "MARK LUSBY" <mark.lusby@btopenworld.com> To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [Antrim] SHANON/McLURE > Andrew > I have a Shannon from Randalstown, Co Antrimin my tree. No connection with > Derry at the moment. > Mark Lusby > Derry > www.lusbyfamilyhistory.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Murray Shannon" <ranamf@nex.net.au> > To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 8:04 AM > Subject: [Antrim] SHANON/McLURE > > > >I am trying to find more details on my ancestors, John SHANNON and Martha > > McLURE which have eluded me. > > > > They had a son Hugh born in Londonderry around 1822 who is my > > g.g.grandfather. > > > > Information is very sketchy and I was hoping someone out there might be > > looking at this family and their ancestors who may be able to help. > > > > > > Andrew > > > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >