Ann: You should list the parish or townland, then Antrim (as the county), then yopu can show Ulster and then N. Ireland, hopwever very few show Ulster, they merely use N. Ireland. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Perrine" <perrineap@mindspring.com> To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [Antrim] Family interests > Thank you very much Ray for the info about John Armstrong. Don't know if > that is our John Armstrong, but it does give me a reference to study. By > the way, when documenting do I put Ulster, Antrim, Northern Ireland; or > should I list it as Antrim, Ulster, Northern Ireland. I very much want > to document correctly. Thanks again. > > Ann Scarbrough Perrine > > On Mar 28, 2006, at 9:18 AM, Ray Jones wrote: > >> I am responding to the interest expressed by Ann and Gordon re. my >> Armstrong line. >> The earliest Armstrong I have is a John Armstrong who married Esther >> Surgeoner on Jan.,6th, 1834 in Kildrum, County Antrim. I have only been >> able to go back as far as births in the late eighteenth century in >> County Antrim due to a lack of source documents. >> Ray.Jones,Ontario >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Perrine" >> <perrineap@mindspring.com> >> To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 3:52 PM >> Subject: Re: [Antrim] Family interests >> >> >>> Hi Ray, do you have any info about Robert Armstrong b.1700, Antrim, >>> Ulster, Ireland d. 10 Nov 1754, Abbeyville Dist., SC married 1728 >>> Antrim, Ulster, Ireland to Alice Calhoun b. 1705, and died 12 Nov >>> 1753 Ulster, Antrim, Ireland? Any info would be most appreciated. >>> Thank you for offering to share. >>> >>> Ann Scarbrough Perrine >>> >>> >>> On Mar 27, 2006, at 3:33 PM, Ray Jones wrote: >>> >>>> I have recently added a new branch to the tree so I thought I would >>>> list my interests in County Antrim: >>>> >>>> McKibbin McKay >>>> Bleakley Cathcart >>>> Caldwell Armstrong >>>> Bones Greenwood >>>> Eaton >>>> >>>> Please let me know if you have any interest in any of the above >>>> surnames. >>>> Ray.Jones,Ontario >>>> >>>> >>>> ============================== >>>> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >>>> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >>>> Learn more: >>>> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx? >>>> sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >>>> >>> >>> >>> ============================== >>> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >>> >> >> >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >> Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx? >> sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >> > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > >

Thank you very much Ray for the info about John Armstrong. Don't know if that is our John Armstrong, but it does give me a reference to study. By the way, when documenting do I put Ulster, Antrim, Northern Ireland; or should I list it as Antrim, Ulster, Northern Ireland. I very much want to document correctly. Thanks again. Ann Scarbrough Perrine On Mar 28, 2006, at 9:18 AM, Ray Jones wrote: > I am responding to the interest expressed by Ann and Gordon re. my > Armstrong line. > The earliest Armstrong I have is a John Armstrong who married Esther > Surgeoner on Jan.,6th, 1834 in Kildrum, County Antrim. I have only > been able to go back as far as births in the late eighteenth century > in County Antrim due to a lack of source documents. > Ray.Jones,Ontario > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Perrine" > <perrineap@mindspring.com> > To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 3:52 PM > Subject: Re: [Antrim] Family interests > > >> Hi Ray, do you have any info about Robert Armstrong b.1700, Antrim, >> Ulster, Ireland d. 10 Nov 1754, Abbeyville Dist., SC married 1728 >> Antrim, Ulster, Ireland to Alice Calhoun b. 1705, and died 12 Nov >> 1753 Ulster, Antrim, Ireland? Any info would be most appreciated. >> Thank you for offering to share. >> >> Ann Scarbrough Perrine >> >> >> On Mar 27, 2006, at 3:33 PM, Ray Jones wrote: >> >>> I have recently added a new branch to the tree so I thought I would >>> list my interests in County Antrim: >>> >>> McKibbin McKay >>> Bleakley Cathcart >>> Caldwell Armstrong >>> Bones Greenwood >>> Eaton >>> >>> Please let me know if you have any interest in any of the above >>> surnames. >>> Ray.Jones,Ontario >>> >>> >>> ============================== >>> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >>> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >>> Learn more: >>> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx? >>> sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >>> >> >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> > > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. > Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx? > sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

Gordon, Many thanks for the reference to the Poll and Hearth Rolls. I had never heard of them before. Do you know of any County Antrim reference material for the period 1780 to 1820 please? Ray.Jones ----- Original Message ----- From: "gordon crooks" <glcrooks@bcpl.net> To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [Antrim] Family interests > Ray: I recently went thru the Poll & Hearth Rolls of County Antrim 1669-69 > and found five Crooks families, BUT which is mine, who knows. There is a > edition of it published by S.T. Carleton, M.A. The full name is: Heads & > Hearths: The Hearth money rolls and poll tax reurns for Co. Antrim > 1660-69. I borrowed a copy from our Library of Congress, since you live in > Canada I would suggest you contact your local library and they can track > it down if available in Canada. I also have phot copies of all of the old > maps showing the paqrishes towns etc. I couldn't find a listing for > Kildrum, this might be a modern spelling and you would need to find the > original spelling. > > Gordon----- Original > Message ----- > From: "Ray Jones" <nantwich@istar.ca> > To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:18 AM > Subject: Re: [Antrim] Family interests > > >>I am responding to the interest expressed by Ann and Gordon re. my >>Armstrong line. >> The earliest Armstrong I have is a John Armstrong who married Esther >> Surgeoner on Jan.,6th, 1834 in Kildrum, County Antrim. I have only been >> able to go back as far as births in the late eighteenth century in County >> Antrim due to a lack of source documents. >> Ray.Jones,Ontario >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ann Perrine" <perrineap@mindspring.com> >> To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 3:52 PM >> Subject: Re: [Antrim] Family interests >> >> >>> Hi Ray, do you have any info about Robert Armstrong b.1700, Antrim, >>> Ulster, Ireland d. 10 Nov 1754, Abbeyville Dist., SC married 1728 >>> Antrim, Ulster, Ireland to Alice Calhoun b. 1705, and died 12 Nov >>> 1753 Ulster, Antrim, Ireland? Any info would be most appreciated. >>> Thank you for offering to share. >>> >>> Ann Scarbrough Perrine >>> >>> >>> On Mar 27, 2006, at 3:33 PM, Ray Jones wrote: >>> >>>> I have recently added a new branch to the tree so I thought I would >>>> list my interests in County Antrim: >>>> >>>> McKibbin McKay >>>> Bleakley Cathcart >>>> Caldwell Armstrong >>>> Bones Greenwood >>>> Eaton >>>> >>>> Please let me know if you have any interest in any of the above >>>> surnames. >>>> Ray.Jones,Ontario >>>> >>>> >>>> ============================== >>>> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >>>> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >>>> Learn more: >>>> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx? >>>> sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >>>> >>> >>> >>> ============================== >>> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >> Learn more: >> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >> >> >> > > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Ray: I recently went thru the Poll & Hearth Rolls of County Antrim 1669-69 and found five Crooks families, BUT which is mine, who knows. There is a edition of it published by S.T. Carleton, M.A. The full name is: Heads & Hearths: The Hearth money rolls and poll tax reurns for Co. Antrim 1660-69. I borrowed a copy from our Library of Congress, since you live in Canada I would suggest you contact your local library and they can track it down if available in Canada. I also have phot copies of all of the old maps showing the paqrishes towns etc. I couldn't find a listing for Kildrum, this might be a modern spelling and you would need to find the original spelling. Gordon----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Jones" <nantwich@istar.ca> To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:18 AM Subject: Re: [Antrim] Family interests >I am responding to the interest expressed by Ann and Gordon re. my >Armstrong line. > The earliest Armstrong I have is a John Armstrong who married Esther > Surgeoner on Jan.,6th, 1834 in Kildrum, County Antrim. I have only been > able to go back as far as births in the late eighteenth century in County > Antrim due to a lack of source documents. > Ray.Jones,Ontario > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ann Perrine" <perrineap@mindspring.com> > To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 3:52 PM > Subject: Re: [Antrim] Family interests > > >> Hi Ray, do you have any info about Robert Armstrong b.1700, Antrim, >> Ulster, Ireland d. 10 Nov 1754, Abbeyville Dist., SC married 1728 >> Antrim, Ulster, Ireland to Alice Calhoun b. 1705, and died 12 Nov 1753 >> Ulster, Antrim, Ireland? Any info would be most appreciated. Thank you >> for offering to share. >> >> Ann Scarbrough Perrine >> >> >> On Mar 27, 2006, at 3:33 PM, Ray Jones wrote: >> >>> I have recently added a new branch to the tree so I thought I would >>> list my interests in County Antrim: >>> >>> McKibbin McKay >>> Bleakley Cathcart >>> Caldwell Armstrong >>> Bones Greenwood >>> Eaton >>> >>> Please let me know if you have any interest in any of the above >>> surnames. >>> Ray.Jones,Ontario >>> >>> >>> ============================== >>> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >>> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >>> Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx? >>> sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >>> >> >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > >

I am responding to the interest expressed by Ann and Gordon re. my Armstrong line. The earliest Armstrong I have is a John Armstrong who married Esther Surgeoner on Jan.,6th, 1834 in Kildrum, County Antrim. I have only been able to go back as far as births in the late eighteenth century in County Antrim due to a lack of source documents. Ray.Jones,Ontario ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Perrine" <perrineap@mindspring.com> To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [Antrim] Family interests > Hi Ray, do you have any info about Robert Armstrong b.1700, Antrim, > Ulster, Ireland d. 10 Nov 1754, Abbeyville Dist., SC married 1728 > Antrim, Ulster, Ireland to Alice Calhoun b. 1705, and died 12 Nov 1753 > Ulster, Antrim, Ireland? Any info would be most appreciated. Thank you > for offering to share. > > Ann Scarbrough Perrine > > > On Mar 27, 2006, at 3:33 PM, Ray Jones wrote: > >> I have recently added a new branch to the tree so I thought I would list >> my interests in County Antrim: >> >> McKibbin McKay >> Bleakley Cathcart >> Caldwell Armstrong >> Bones Greenwood >> Eaton >> >> Please let me know if you have any interest in any of the above >> surnames. >> Ray.Jones,Ontario >> >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >> Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx? >> sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >> > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Ray Jones, I am interested in McKays, too. Where did your McKays live and when did they go to Canada? Deb Logan Pittsburgh

Question for Gordon Crooks - The "Heads and Hearths" book 1660-1669 for Antrim...is it indexed by family name? I'd sure like to know if there is anyone named Wiseman listed in that time period. My Wisemans were in Ballywatermoy, Ahoghill (now Craigs) Township by 1800, but there seems to be some mystery as to when the first Wisemans are recorded as having come to Antrim. The earliest reference I've been given is for the name appearing sometime in the early 18th Century in Carrickfergus. Some say that the first Wiseman in Ulster was a Dutch or German mercenary in William of Orange's Army, and others say that the name in Ireland originated from Wisemans who lived in the North of Scotland and once had had some association with William the Wallace. Bob Wilson Beaufort SC USA > Ray: I recently went thru the Poll & Hearth Rolls of County Antrim 1669-69 > and found five Crooks families, BUT which is mine, who knows. There is a > edition of it published by S.T. Carleton, M.A. The full name is: Heads & > Hearths: The Hearth money rolls and poll tax reurns for Co. Antrim > 1660-69. I borrowed a copy from our Library of Congress, since you live in > Canada I would suggest you contact your local library and they can track > it down if available in Canada. I also have phot copies of all of the old > maps showing the paqrishes towns etc. I couldn't find a listing for > Kildrum, this might be a modern spelling and you would need to find the > original spelling. Gordon --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.

Ray; My great aunt Isabella Forsythe , married a John Greenwood ,28/09/1922. I think the marriage took place in Newtownards, probably in the presbyterian church.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Jones" <nantwich@istar.ca> To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 3:33 PM Subject: [Antrim] Family interests >I have recently added a new branch to the tree so I thought I would list my >interests in County Antrim: > > McKibbin McKay > Bleakley Cathcart > Caldwell Armstrong > Bones Greenwood > Eaton > > Please let me know if you have any interest in any of the above surnames. > Ray.Jones,Ontario > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

Ray & Ann: I saw your msgs. regarding Antrim and the info that you have regardinbg births and marraiges for 1700 era. My question is where did you find this info? My ancestor was born there abt. 1709 and married abt 1734, but I have never been able to find proof of this. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Perrine" <perrineap@mindspring.com> To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [Antrim] Family interests > Hi Ray, do you have any info about Robert Armstrong b.1700, Antrim, > Ulster, Ireland d. 10 Nov 1754, Abbeyville Dist., SC married 1728 > Antrim, Ulster, Ireland to Alice Calhoun b. 1705, and died 12 Nov 1753 > Ulster, Antrim, Ireland? Any info would be most appreciated. Thank you > for offering to share. > > Ann Scarbrough Perrine > > > On Mar 27, 2006, at 3:33 PM, Ray Jones wrote: > >> I have recently added a new branch to the tree so I thought I would list >> my interests in County Antrim: >> >> McKibbin McKay >> Bleakley Cathcart >> Caldwell Armstrong >> Bones Greenwood >> Eaton >> >> Please let me know if you have any interest in any of the above >> surnames. >> Ray.Jones,Ontario >> >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >> Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx? >> sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >> > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >

Rolls of Honour—on my web site at the link below. Alternatively type Jean McCarthy into the Google search engine for a direct link. I have added another new page to the Rolls of Honour Page. Colleen in Canada has very kindly sent me a photograph of the war memorial at Kildollagh Presbyterian. Church, in the Ballymoney, Co. Antrim area. Thank you so very much indeed Colleen for sharing this great photo with us all. Another very kind lady (Margaret) on her recent holiday to Hobart Tasmania very kindly took photographs for me. The photos are of my great-grandmother’s (Jane Bowden nee Spratt) grave in Hobart Tasmania. I am deeply indebted to Margaret for her selfless act of kindness. Thank you so very much indeed Margaret. I realise that this is not of any interest to you all but Margaret also brought me the cemetery plan and graves plan of the Cornelian Cemetery in Hobart. Sorry if this is off topic but I thought it might be of interest to some of you as I have noticed quite a lot of Irish names (including several instances of my own maiden name of Moore) on the grave plans. I have put these images onto my web site on My Tasmanian page. I have deliberately made these images large to facilitate easier viewing of the names, so sorry if you have to scroll around a bit. Kindest Regards. Jean McCarthy nee Moore. Staffordshire, England. My own main names of interest: MOORE, (Ireland, Canada & Australia) BOWDEN, (Ireland, New Zealand, Tasmania & Australia) HAWTHORNE. (Ireland and Pennsylvania) In Co Down, Co Armagh & Co Antrim Ireland: McCALLISTER, McAULEY, FLINN, STRAIN, SPRATT, McCLENAGHAN & KENNEDY. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jeanmccarthy36/

Hi Ray, do you have any info about Robert Armstrong b.1700, Antrim, Ulster, Ireland d. 10 Nov 1754, Abbeyville Dist., SC married 1728 Antrim, Ulster, Ireland to Alice Calhoun b. 1705, and died 12 Nov 1753 Ulster, Antrim, Ireland? Any info would be most appreciated. Thank you for offering to share. Ann Scarbrough Perrine On Mar 27, 2006, at 3:33 PM, Ray Jones wrote: > I have recently added a new branch to the tree so I thought I would > list my interests in County Antrim: > > McKibbin McKay > Bleakley Cathcart > Caldwell Armstrong > Bones Greenwood > Eaton > > Please let me know if you have any interest in any of the above > surnames. > Ray.Jones,Ontario > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. > Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx? > sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

I have recently added a new branch to the tree so I thought I would list my interests in County Antrim: McKibbin McKay Bleakley Cathcart Caldwell Armstrong Bones Greenwood Eaton Please let me know if you have any interest in any of the above surnames. Ray.Jones,Ontario

Hi Jean, my names of interest are Johnson and Walkingshaw,Antrim I believe. I havn't had much luck. ----- Original Message ----- From: <JeanMcCarthy36@aol.com> To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 5:39 AM Subject: [Antrim] Rolls of Honour > Rolls of Honour—on my web site at the link below. Alternatively type Jean > McCarthy into the Google search engine for a direct link. > > I have added another two new pages containing Rolls of Honour. One of the > new rolls is the COMPLETE Roll of Honour for St. Paul’s Belfast. The other is > the partial Roll of Honour for Derriaghy Church of Ireland. I hope to add more > Rolls of Honour in the future as they are sent to me. If anyone has got > photographs of Rolls of Honour from churches of any denomination anywhere in > Northern Ireland and would like to see them included on these pages I would be > very pleased to add them to the collection. So please just send me your > photographs and I will post them on my web site just as soon as I can. If you do > send me photographs can you please send me an e-mail beforehand telling me to > expect photos? This is so that I do not delete them in error should I suspect > a virus. Kindest Regards. Jean McCarthy nee Moore. Staffordshire, England. > > My own main names of interest: MOORE, (Ireland, Canada & Australia) BOWDEN, > (Ireland, New Zealand, Tasmania & Australia) HAWTHORNE. (Ireland and > Pennsylvania) In Co Down, Co Armagh & Co Antrim Ireland: McCALLISTER, McAULEY, FLINN, > STRAIN, SPRATT, McCLENAGHAN & KENNEDY. > > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jeanmccarthy36/ > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > __________ NOD32 1.1233 (20050926) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > >

Rolls of Honour—on my web site at the link below. Alternatively type Jean McCarthy into the Google search engine for a direct link. I have added another two new pages containing Rolls of Honour. One of the new rolls is the COMPLETE Roll of Honour for St. Paul’s Belfast. The other is the partial Roll of Honour for Derriaghy Church of Ireland. I hope to add more Rolls of Honour in the future as they are sent to me. If anyone has got photographs of Rolls of Honour from churches of any denomination anywhere in Northern Ireland and would like to see them included on these pages I would be very pleased to add them to the collection. So please just send me your photographs and I will post them on my web site just as soon as I can. If you do send me photographs can you please send me an e-mail beforehand telling me to expect photos? This is so that I do not delete them in error should I suspect a virus. Kindest Regards. Jean McCarthy nee Moore. Staffordshire, England. My own main names of interest: MOORE, (Ireland, Canada & Australia) BOWDEN, (Ireland, New Zealand, Tasmania & Australia) HAWTHORNE. (Ireland and Pennsylvania) In Co Down, Co Armagh & Co Antrim Ireland: McCALLISTER, McAULEY, FLINN, STRAIN, SPRATT, McCLENAGHAN & KENNEDY. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jeanmccarthy36/

Hi list, I have a tough Irish/ Northern Irish Seymour research problem. I have been at this Seymour research for about 10 years now. Slowly, I think I am making very gradual progress. Anyway, I am seeking information about a Seymour family who left Ireland or Northern Ireland in about 1882 or 1883. The parents died on the trip to New York. It is believed that both parents died from consumption (TB). When the children arrived at the port, they were sent to an orphanage. We believe that orphanage to be the New York Foundling Hospital. It is believed that one of the children (Laura) was sent by the New York Foundling Hospital with the infamous Mr. Larry Curran on an orphan train to Iowa. Laura was adopted when she was about 5 years old. I do not know this Seymour family's county of origin or port of departure. I realize that this is a big hurdle. The family was composed of four members: ________ Seymour (Husband) and Fiona _______ Seymour (wife). With them, they had two children Laura Seymour b. abt 1881 (first name may have been something else) and __________ Seymour (a older son or daughter b. abt 1876). I realize that this is not much information. However, just this last year I was given the probable first name of the wife (Fiona). I know that this is a shot in the dark. However, if anyone on the list with Seymour ancestors had a Fiona ______ marry into their Seymour family in about the late 1870s or early 1880s, I would really love to hear from you. Like I said, I know this seems like a stretch. However, maybe someone will recognize some of the scant facts above to make a connection. I wanted to cross reference the Irish/Northern Irish marriage records to find a Seymour on the Groom side and a Fiona on the bride side. However, I have not been able to find the marriage records on a database that will do this. The actual marriage registers only list the name of the marriage participant under the surname. If these marriage records are ever put in a cross referencing index, I might be in luck. Until then, I have to press on with the little bit of information that I have gathered. I would appreciate any help or guidance anyone is willing to offer on this research problem. Thank you. Nicholas

Rolls of Honour—on my web site at the link below. Alternatively type Jean McCarthy into the Google search engine for a direct link. I have created five new pages containing Rolls of Honour for both world wars. They contain hundreds of names of those who served in both world wars. Unfortunately one section of the page from St Anne’s Roll of Honour is not very legible and it cannot be improved. However the rest of the Rolls of Honour are very clear. I hope to add more Rolls of Honour in the future. On the page for St. John’s C of I Laganbank, I have put a link to the CWGC site where it is possible to identify those killed in action. I hope that my fellow listers find this new addition of interest. Kindest Regards. Jean McCarthy nee Moore. Staffordshire, England. My own main names of interest: MOORE, (Ireland, Canada & Australia) BOWDEN, (Ireland, New Zealand, Tasmania & Australia) HAWTHORNE. (Ireland and Pennsylvania) In Co Down, Co Armagh & Co Antrim Ireland: McCALLISTER, McAULEY, FLINN, STRAIN, SPRATT, McCLENAGHAN & KENNEDY. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jeanmccarthy36/

The Linen Mill on the Crumlin Road ( near Ardoyne) was called "Ewart's.) I am not sure if it is still in existence, but if you need to know, I could find out. There are two Presbyterian Churches that I know of -- Ballysillan Presby. and Woodvale Presby. Ardoyne Roman Catholic Church is almost directly opposite Ewart's. Marion.

Maureen, I can tell you that the Wards for the Crumlin Road are: CLIFTON, COURT and SHANKILL. For Sydney Street the Ward is COURT. There is also Sydney Street West which comes under the SHANKILL Ward. Sorry I can't give you answers to the rest of your questions however, if I come across what you're looking for then I'll be in touch. Good luck. Agnes. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maureen Williams" <maureenwilliams@rogers.com> To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 2:39 PM Subject: [Antrim] West Belfast - Shankhill Ward > It has taken me quite a while to locate my Creagen family in Belfast. The > reason being; I was looking for the wrong spelling. It was Cregan. After > locating birth certificates etc. I have found that they changed the > spelling of their name to Creagen when they came to Canada abt. 1913. > They > could all read and write so I was wondering why would they change their > name? > > I have found my grandfather in the 1911 census living on Sidney St. as > well > as my uncles living on Crumlin Rd. This would be Shankhill Ward? > > They were listed as Presbyterian (although baptised in Lisburn Cathedral) > and all worked in the linen factory. > > Could someone tell me where the nearest Presbyterian Church would be for > that area. Also what linen factory would they work in? > > Kindest Regards, > Maureen > > > > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

It has taken me quite a while to locate my Creagen family in Belfast. The reason being; I was looking for the wrong spelling. It was Cregan. After locating birth certificates etc. I have found that they changed the spelling of their name to Creagen when they came to Canada abt. 1913. They could all read and write so I was wondering why would they change their name? I have found my grandfather in the 1911 census living on Sidney St. as well as my uncles living on Crumlin Rd. This would be Shankhill Ward? They were listed as Presbyterian (although baptised in Lisburn Cathedral) and all worked in the linen factory. Could someone tell me where the nearest Presbyterian Church would be for that area. Also what linen factory would they work in? Kindest Regards, Maureen

I am hoping that someone on this list can be assistance as I seem to have hit a brick wall. I am seeking ancestral information on Margaret Hamilton, born around 1822 in Antrim NI, parents were John Hamilton and Eliza Martin. Margaret Hamilton married Hugh Shannon, my g.g.grandfather, in Glasgow on 12 October 1838. All avenues open to me so far have closed up so I am now appealing to this list for assistance. Andrew