Hi list, a compilation of records dealing with Settlement , Removal, Bastardy, Apprentices and Rogues and Vagabonds has and is being compiled, it contains the names of folks from your area located far from home in the middle of England. Take a look you may just discover a lost relation. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm mike

Dear all, Please be warned that there is presently on offer on EBAY (the internet auction site) a set of gravestone inscriptions at the old burying ground beside Billy Parish Church in North Antrim. The inscriptions (with plan of the graveyard and images of the stones) can be found, for free, at http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlantbp/ Norman Parkes

Major Belfast Cemeteries — Place Marks for Google Earth— on my web site at the link below. Alternatively type Jean McCarthy into the Google search engine for a direct link. Andy in the U.S.A. has very kindly sent me the Google Earth place marks of all the major Belfast cemeteries, as well as St. Anne's, St. Paul's, St. Peter's, and Christ Church Derriaghy. All you need is the Google Earth program, and that is a free download at: _http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html_ (http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html) You will find the place marks on the Google Earth page on my web site. Thank you so very much indeed Andy for sharing this wonderful information with us all. If anyone has got any Google Earth place marks that may be of interest to our fellow researchers and would like to see them included on the new Google Earth place mark page. Then please send them to me and I will be glad to include them. Kind Regards. Jean McCarthy nee Moore. Staffordshire, England. My own main names of interest: MOORE, (Ireland, Canada & Australia) BOWDEN, (Ireland, New Zealand, Tasmania & Australia) HAWTHORNE. (Ireland and Pennsylvania) In Co Down, Co Armagh & Co Antrim Ireland: McCALLISTER, McAULEY, FLINN, STRAIN, SPRATT, McCLENAGHAN & KENNEDY. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jeanmccarthy36/

I have been looking over notes that my Great Uncle wrote regarding Watson family death dates in Lisburn. He has written a list of Watson family members and the latest dates are 1899. Beside it he has written buried New Cemetery Under Catherine Watson he has a date of Jan. 19, 1900 - buried New Cemetery Lisburn. Under Hume family members he has written Blaris Burying Ground. Could someone please tell me where New Cemetery and Blaris cemeteries are? I googled the name and it mentions New Cemetery opening in 1955. So this cemetery cannot be the same one. I am hoping to find earlier information with these death dates from burial records, but I am not sure where to go. Are there several cemeteries in Co. Antrim called New Cemetery? Regards, Maureen

How wonderfull Maureen, as children in 1931 our cousins and my brothers & sisters were sick of having to listen to our families for ever talking early Australian family history and now we are sorry that we were not interested. Kath I wanted to share with the list an incredible experience I have had. > I have been trying for many years to piece together my mother's family > with > very little information on family from Ireland. I recently connected with > an elderly woman who was the wife of my mother's much younger cousin. He > was stationed in Japan during the Korean War and brought home a Japanese > War > Bride. Funny at 80 her English was still not very good. She told me that > her husband was now dead and her son was teaching in Kuro, Japan. He > contacted me and said he would be in Toronto this past weekend and that we > should meet. > > He brought with him a letter that was written by my mother in 1979 (three > years before she died). The letter was to his father, replying to a > request > for family information. His father was a prisoner of war during WWI. He > came home in very bad health and died 10 yrs. later. He left behind a very > young family who had little memory of him. This man's father was my > mother's favourite uncle and she had lots of stories to tell about him. > Apparently this letter was very special to the family and everyone had a > copy. > > In this letter that my mother wrote, was a complete history of everyone in > the family as well as birth and death dates she remembered and when they > emigrated. She also talked about the personalities of all her uncles, > aunts > and as well as her grandparents and their siblings. I gather my mother and > her parents were the first to emigrate. As the relatives started to come > over to Canada, they would spend a year with them until they found work > and > a could send for their families. > > What is incredible is that she wrote this 16 page epic and did not copy > it. > Now all these years later; I receive the letter from Japan! > > While researching her family I often thought "why didn't I ask her about > her > family"? Well now she has managed to answer those questions all these > years > later. It was a wonderful gift! > > So now I must expand my research to from Belfast to Lisburn. Is Lisburn > Parish part of Antrim or Down? > > Kind Regards, > Maureen > > > > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.5/302 - Release Date: 5/04/2006 > >

The following are my early ancestors in the Lisburn area. All baptism and marriages took place in Lisburn Cathedral. They lived in Lisburn, Ballynahinch & Hilden & Hillborough at different times and worked in the Linen Factories. Apparently most burials for the Watson Family was in New Cemetery (Lisburn?) This is what I have on the families: Hope someone can help - Maureen - Canada Descendants of George Watson 1 George Watson (Lisburn) .. +Catherine Graham (Lisburn) .... 2 Agnes Watson - 1943 ........ +Robert Bell .... 2 David Watson - 1944 ........ +Katie O'Hara .... 2 Margaret (Maggie) Watson - 1915 ........ +Unknown Chambers .... 2 Robert Watson ........ +Unknown .......... 3 Thomas Watson .......... 3 Robert Watson .............. +Mabel Burke .... 2 Sarah Ann Watson - 1891 .... 2 Elizabeth (Eliza) Ann Watson 1859 - 1937 (Low Rd. Lisburn) ........ +Richard Elliott Cregan 1857 - 1929 (md. Feb. 29, 1880) Belfast .... 2 Samuel Watson 1880 - 1969 (Stonne St.?) ........ +Jane Hume - 1957 (md. Jul. 11, 1902) Ballynahinch Rd.? .......... 3 Agnes Watson 1903 - 1985 .... 2 John Watson 1888 - 1888 .... 2 William James Watson 1888 - 1888 Descendants of Joseph Cregan 1 Joseph Cregan (Lisburn) (Servant) .... 2 George Cregan 1830 - (Coachman) ........ +Ann Jane Elliott 1828 - (md. Apr. 20, 1851) .......... 3 Richard Elliott Cregan 1857 - 1929 .............. +Elizabeth (Eliza) Ann Watson 1859 - 1937 (md. Feb. 29, 1880) Low Rd. .......... 3 George Cregan 1860 - Longstone Rd. .............. +Unknown ................ 4 Robert Cregan ................ 4 Ann (Cissy) Cregan

I wanted to share with the list an incredible experience I have had. I have been trying for many years to piece together my mother's family with very little information on family from Ireland.  I recently connected with an elderly woman who was the wife of my mother's much younger cousin.  He was stationed in Japan during the Korean War and brought home a Japanese War Bride.  Funny at 80 her English was still not very good.  She told me that her husband was now dead and her son was teaching in Kuro, Japan.  He contacted me and said he would be in Toronto this past weekend and that we should meet. He brought with him a letter that was written by my mother in 1979 (three years before she died).  The letter was to his father, replying to a request for family information.  His father was a prisoner of war during  WWI.  He came home in very bad health and died 10 yrs. later.  He left behind a very young family who had little memory of him.  This man's father was my mother's favourite uncle and she had lots of stories to tell about him. Apparently this letter was very special to the family and everyone had a copy. In this letter that my mother wrote, was a complete history of everyone in the family as well as birth and death dates she remembered and when they emigrated.  She also talked about the personalities of all her uncles, aunts and as well as her grandparents and their siblings.  I gather my mother and her parents were the first to emigrate.  As the relatives started to come over to Canada, they would spend a year with them until they found work and a could send for their families. What is incredible is that she wrote this 16 page epic and did not copy it. Now all these years later; I receive the letter from Japan! While researching her family I often thought "why didn't I ask her about her family"?  Well now she has managed to answer those questions all these years later.  It was a wonderful gift! So now I must expand my research to from Belfast to Lisburn.  Is Lisburn Parish part of Antrim or Down? Kind Regards, Maureen

Maureen, Lisburn is in Antrim. I have an old map of the area from 1866 if you need some help with some placenames. What a wonderful story, I'm so happy for you! Andy Airriess

Greetings Gordon I refer to your message of the 28 th March re Antrim B & D's . Did you get a response from Ray and Ann in regards documentation of B& D's ?. I am interested in this area also around the same time as yourself. Would be glad to hear from you if you have any info. Kindest regards Robert ( Western Australia) ----- Original Message ----- From: "gordon crooks" <glcrooks@bcpl.net> To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, 28 March 2006 7:00 Subject: Re: [Antrim] Family interests

Church Photos on my web site at the link below. Alternatively type Jean McCarthy into the Google search engine for a direct link. The Rev. Ryk Brown in Canada has very kindly sent me several new photographs of his recent trip to County Armagh in the village of Tandragee. I have created a new page for Tandragee on my web site to accommodate these new photographs. The photos consist of the Ballymore Presbyterian Church, Tandragee Presbyterian Church (both exterior and interior, panoramic view of Tandragee, as well as an overall view of Tandragee Presbyterian Church (foreground), Tandragee Castle (upper left), Ballymore Parish Church Tower (visible top right), Downtown Tandragee and a couple of photos of downtown Scarva which is a neighbouring village. Thank you very much indeed Ryk for sharing these wonderful photos with us all. Gordon in the U.S.A. has kindly sent to me two more new photographs for inclusion on the miscellaneous church photos page. Gordon says “I don't have a church picture as it is long gone. This is the cemetery of the Presbyterian Convenanters established in 1740 in Fayetteville, Franklin County, Pennsylvania. There are quite a few soldiers of the American Revolution buried here, all who were Ulsterscots.” Gordon gives a full description on the captions of his photographs. Thank you once again very much indeed Gordon for sharing these wonderful photos with us all. Also someone has kindly sent me a new entry which I have added to the Old Occupations page. It is a Felloebender. This is essentially a wheelwright - the full definition is: Felloe - the exterior rim or a part of the rim of a wheel supported by the spokes. In particular, the curved pieces of wood which joined together form the circular rim of a wheel. Bender: he who or that which bends. Thank you very much indeed to the friend of genealogy who sent this information to me I hope my fellow listers will find the above of interest. Kind Regards. Jean McCarthy nee Moore. Staffordshire, England. My own main names of interest: MOORE, (Ireland, Canada & Australia) BOWDEN, (Ireland, New Zealand, Tasmania & Australia) HAWTHORNE. (Ireland and Pennsylvania) In Co Down, Co Armagh & Co Antrim Ireland: McCALLISTER, McAULEY, FLINN, STRAIN, SPRATT, McCLENAGHAN & KENNEDY. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jeanmccarthy36/

Crystal Sorry jean, I think it was me.. ----- Original Message ----- From: <JeanMcCarthy36@aol.com> To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 5:55 AM Subject: Re: [Antrim] Rolls of Honour > > > Dear ????, > Sorry you did not give your name. I know how you feel about not having much > luck. I have spent eight years searching the 1901 census for my paternal > grandparents. Hundreds of people write to me to thank me for helping them find > their ancestors. I am so pleased for them but I can’t find my own! Don't give > up! You just have to keep plodding on and one day you will find something > significant when you least expect it. Good luck with your research. Kind Regards. > Jean McCarthy nee Moore > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jeanmccarthy36/ > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > __________ NOD32 1.1233 (20050926) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > >

My McKay's went to Chicago from Ballintoy. Janice McKay

Gordon - Just FYI, I have roots in Paisley as well, but I can't get back beyond 1802, when my gggrandfather John MacNeal (or any of various other spellings) was born there. Looking for MacNeal relations in Paisley today is like looking for Wilson relations in Ulster (another challenge/brick wall I have). All I have for the latter is that a Robert Wilson in my line was born there in 1826, with no county identification. It would be neat to claim an association or kinship with Woodrow Wilson, whose roots were in Carrickfergus, but I have nothing to even begin to substantiate that! I probably CAN get back to the Norman Conquest of Ireland via two names I have from County Wexford in the South (Redmond and Sutton), but again, there are so many people with those names in Wexford that makes it really difficult to establish any verifiable link. Bob gordon crooks <glcrooks@bcpl.net> wrote: Bob: I am sorry to say there is no index of names, however Ahoghill contains a lot of names as a matter of fact I have pretty well convienced myself that the Ahoghill Crooks were mine. The reason I say this is I used the cluster method. In my lineI have some rare Scots names Dunwoodie, Moorehead, Crunkleton along with McClure, McCrea, Beatty,& Wallace. I found Moorehead, Dunwoodie, & McClure very close to where the Crooks lived (less than a mile). Since families in the 1600-1700's tended to live, marry and die within their parish, this is convincing proof (not concrete-but as good as it's going to get). Perhaps your Wiseman moved into the Crooks croft! Better yet maybe they both came from Normandy with William the Conquer as Robert Croc (Crooks) arrived in Paisley, Scotland to claim his patent in 1138. There are three other documents which can be helpful they are: Registry of Deeds 1701, Agricultural census 1734, and Rolls of Protestant householders 1740. These documents still exist, so you can try process of elimination; example if found in say 1734, but not listed in 1740, they moved or died. Trying to find ships passage is almost impossible as we were all subjects of the Crown (unless foreigners) and did not need passports or other documentation, which reminds me you might find their actual passage via Rotterdam and those passengers were all listed by name, they could have been Qyeen Anne's settlers and their are records of them existing. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Wilson" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [Antrim] Family interests: WISEMAN > Question for Gordon Crooks - > The "Heads and Hearths" book 1660-1669 for Antrim...is it indexed by > family name? I'd sure like to know if there is anyone named Wiseman listed > in that time period. My Wisemans were in Ballywatermoy, Ahoghill (now > Craigs) Township by 1800, but there seems to be some mystery as to when > the first Wisemans are recorded as having come to Antrim. The earliest > reference I've been given is for the name appearing sometime in the early > 18th Century in Carrickfergus. Some say that the first Wiseman in Ulster > was a Dutch or German mercenary in William of Orange's Army, and others > say that the name in Ireland originated from Wisemans who lived in the > North of Scotland and once had had some association with William the > Wallace. > Bob Wilson > Beaufort SC USA > > >> Ray: I recently went thru the Poll & Hearth Rolls of County Antrim >> 1669-69 >> and found five Crooks families, BUT which is mine, who knows. There is a >> edition of it published by S.T. Carleton, M.A. The full name is: Heads & >> Hearths: The Hearth money rolls and poll tax reurns for Co. Antrim >> 1660-69. I borrowed a copy from our Library of Congress, since you live >> in >> Canada I would suggest you contact your local library and they can track >> it down if available in Canada. I also have phot copies of all of the old >> maps showing the paqrishes towns etc. I couldn't find a listing for >> Kildrum, this might be a modern spelling and you would need to find the >> original spelling. > Gordon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ > countries) for 2¢/min or less. > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1&cent;/min.

Dear ????, Sorry you did not give your name. I know how you feel about not having much luck. I have spent eight years searching the 1901 census for my paternal grandparents. Hundreds of people write to me to thank me for helping them find their ancestors. I am so pleased for them but I can’t find my own! Don't give up! You just have to keep plodding on and one day you will find something significant when you least expect it. Good luck with your research. Kind Regards. Jean McCarthy nee Moore http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jeanmccarthy36/

Dear Maureen, My Eliza Caldwell was born in 1827 in Tullaghlane ,Dunaghy,County Antrim to a couple I only know as Mr Caldwell and his wife Priscilla. She married a Farmer named John Bleakley. Hope this is of interest. Ray.Jones,Ontario ----- Original Message ----- From: <mcclarty_farm@comcast.net> To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 7:23 PM Subject: [Antrim] Kildrum; Caldwell > > Gordon~ Kildrum is 273 acres in Co. Antrim, Barony of Lower Antrim, > Connor Civil Parish, in the PLU of Ballymena, Ulster. Info thanks to good > ol' seanruad who keeps on giving long past his earthly existence! > > Ray~ My great grandmother was Ann Jane Archibald b. Ballymena in 1866 > daughter of Hugh Archibald and Ann CALDWELL (DOB unknown). Hugh & Ann > (g'g'grandparents) had a farm in Coolderry South, northwest of Ballymoney. > Their other two children were Mary, b. 1869, and Charles, b. 1872. If you > see a possible link, I'd be happy to follow up. Regards ~Maureen > > -- > Researching: Archibald; Black; > Brown; Caldwell; Coyles; Graham; > Kelly; Laverty; McAuley; > McClarty; Pink & Stewart->County > Antrim, Northern Ireland > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Gordon~ Kildrum is 273 acres in Co. Antrim, Barony of Lower Antrim, Connor Civil Parish, in the PLU of Ballymena, Ulster. Info thanks to good ol' seanruad who keeps on giving long past his earthly existence! Ray~ My great grandmother was Ann Jane Archibald b. Ballymena in 1866 daughter of Hugh Archibald and Ann CALDWELL (DOB unknown). Hugh & Ann (g'g'grandparents) had a farm in Coolderry South, northwest of Ballymoney. Their other two children were Mary, b. 1869, and Charles, b. 1872. If you see a possible link, I'd be happy to follow up. Regards ~Maureen -- Researching: Archibald; Black; Brown; Caldwell; Coyles; Graham; Kelly; Laverty; McAuley; McClarty; Pink & Stewart->County Antrim, Northern Ireland

Kildrum is a townland in Connor Parish, Lower Antrim Barony, East Antrim, County Antrim. About 2 miles south of Ballymena and a quarter mile west of Kells village. Norman -------------------------- Subject: Re: [Antrim] Family interests > the paqrishes towns etc. I couldn't find a listing for Kildrum, this might > be a modern spelling and you would need to find the original spelling.

Gordon, my info came from many other relatives and others. Also, searching familysearch.com there are people who have come up with the same data. I don't know if everyone just finds this data from each other or what. I have not found records either that prove my information. I am hoping that the info I have will give me a lead to some place where I am able to research and find proof. Ann Scarbrough Perrine On Mar 27, 2006, at 6:00 PM, gordon crooks wrote: > Ray & Ann: I saw your msgs. regarding Antrim and the info that you > have regardinbg births and marraiges for 1700 era. My question is > where did you find this info? My ancestor was born there abt. 1709 and > married abt 1734, but I have never been able to find proof of this. > > Gordon > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Perrine" > <perrineap@mindspring.com> > To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 3:52 PM > Subject: Re: [Antrim] Family interests > > >> Hi Ray, do you have any info about Robert Armstrong b.1700, Antrim, >> Ulster, Ireland d. 10 Nov 1754, Abbeyville Dist., SC married 1728 >> Antrim, Ulster, Ireland to Alice Calhoun b. 1705, and died 12 Nov >> 1753 Ulster, Antrim, Ireland? Any info would be most appreciated. >> Thank you for offering to share. >> >> Ann Scarbrough Perrine >> >> >> On Mar 27, 2006, at 3:33 PM, Ray Jones wrote: >> >>> I have recently added a new branch to the tree so I thought I would >>> list my interests in County Antrim: >>> >>> McKibbin McKay >>> Bleakley Cathcart >>> Caldwell Armstrong >>> Bones Greenwood >>> Eaton >>> >>> Please let me know if you have any interest in any of the above >>> surnames. >>> Ray.Jones,Ontario >>> >>> >>> ============================== >>> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >>> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >>> Learn more: >>> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx? >>> sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >>> >> >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Ray look at my msg. to Bob. Also to all of you I know several researchers in both Glasgow, Dublin, and Belfast, all are professionals. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Jones" <nantwich@istar.ca> To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 10:09 AM Subject: Re: [Antrim] Family interests > Gordon, > Many thanks for the reference to the Poll and Hearth Rolls. I had never > heard of them before. > Do you know of any County Antrim reference material for the period 1780 to > 1820 please? > Ray.Jones > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "gordon crooks" <glcrooks@bcpl.net> > To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:58 AM > Subject: Re: [Antrim] Family interests > > >> Ray: I recently went thru the Poll & Hearth Rolls of County Antrim >> 1669-69 and found five Crooks families, BUT which is mine, who knows. >> There is a edition of it published by S.T. Carleton, M.A. The full name >> is: Heads & Hearths: The Hearth money rolls and poll tax reurns for Co. >> Antrim 1660-69. I borrowed a copy from our Library of Congress, since you >> live in Canada I would suggest you contact your local library and they >> can track it down if available in Canada. I also have phot copies of all >> of the old maps showing the paqrishes towns etc. I couldn't find a >> listing for Kildrum, this might be a modern spelling and you would need >> to find the original spelling. >> >> Gordon----- Original >> Message ----- >> From: "Ray Jones" <nantwich@istar.ca> >> To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:18 AM >> Subject: Re: [Antrim] Family interests >> >> >>>I am responding to the interest expressed by Ann and Gordon re. my >>>Armstrong line. >>> The earliest Armstrong I have is a John Armstrong who married Esther >>> Surgeoner on Jan.,6th, 1834 in Kildrum, County Antrim. I have only been >>> able to go back as far as births in the late eighteenth century in >>> County Antrim due to a lack of source documents. >>> Ray.Jones,Ontario >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Ann Perrine" <perrineap@mindspring.com> >>> To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 3:52 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Antrim] Family interests >>> >>> >>>> Hi Ray, do you have any info about Robert Armstrong b.1700, Antrim, >>>> Ulster, Ireland d. 10 Nov 1754, Abbeyville Dist., SC married 1728 >>>> Antrim, Ulster, Ireland to Alice Calhoun b. 1705, and died 12 Nov >>>> 1753 Ulster, Antrim, Ireland? Any info would be most appreciated. >>>> Thank you for offering to share. >>>> >>>> Ann Scarbrough Perrine >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mar 27, 2006, at 3:33 PM, Ray Jones wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have recently added a new branch to the tree so I thought I would >>>>> list my interests in County Antrim: >>>>> >>>>> McKibbin McKay >>>>> Bleakley Cathcart >>>>> Caldwell Armstrong >>>>> Bones Greenwood >>>>> Eaton >>>>> >>>>> Please let me know if you have any interest in any of the above >>>>> surnames. >>>>> Ray.Jones,Ontario >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ============================== >>>>> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >>>>> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >>>>> Learn more: >>>>> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx? >>>>> sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ============================== >>>> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>>> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ============================== >>> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >>> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >>> Learn more: >>> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ============================== >> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >> ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

Bob: I am sorry to say there is no index of names, however Ahoghill contains a lot of names as a matter of fact I have pretty well convienced myself that the Ahoghill Crooks were mine. The reason I say this is I used the cluster method. In my lineI have some rare Scots names Dunwoodie, Moorehead, Crunkleton along with McClure, McCrea, Beatty,& Wallace. I found Moorehead, Dunwoodie, & McClure very close to where the Crooks lived (less than a mile). Since families in the 1600-1700's tended to live, marry and die within their parish, this is convincing proof (not concrete-but as good as it's going to get). Perhaps your Wiseman moved into the Crooks croft! Better yet maybe they both came from Normandy with William the Conquer as Robert Croc (Crooks) arrived in Paisley, Scotland to claim his patent in 1138. There are three other documents which can be helpful they are: Registry of Deeds 1701, Agricultural census 1734, and Rolls of Protestant householders 1740. These documents still exist, so you can try process of elimination; example if found in say 1734, but not listed in 1740, they moved or died. Trying to find ships passage is almost impossible as we were all subjects of the Crown (unless foreigners) and did not need passports or other documentation, which reminds me you might find their actual passage via Rotterdam and those passengers were all listed by name, they could have been Qyeen Anne's settlers and their are records of them existing. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Wilson" <wilso127@yahoo.com> To: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [Antrim] Family interests: WISEMAN > Question for Gordon Crooks - > The "Heads and Hearths" book 1660-1669 for Antrim...is it indexed by > family name? I'd sure like to know if there is anyone named Wiseman listed > in that time period. My Wisemans were in Ballywatermoy, Ahoghill (now > Craigs) Township by 1800, but there seems to be some mystery as to when > the first Wisemans are recorded as having come to Antrim. The earliest > reference I've been given is for the name appearing sometime in the early > 18th Century in Carrickfergus. Some say that the first Wiseman in Ulster > was a Dutch or German mercenary in William of Orange's Army, and others > say that the name in Ireland originated from Wisemans who lived in the > North of Scotland and once had had some association with William the > Wallace. > Bob Wilson > Beaufort SC USA > > >> Ray: I recently went thru the Poll & Hearth Rolls of County Antrim >> 1669-69 >> and found five Crooks families, BUT which is mine, who knows. There is a >> edition of it published by S.T. Carleton, M.A. The full name is: Heads & >> Hearths: The Hearth money rolls and poll tax reurns for Co. Antrim >> 1660-69. I borrowed a copy from our Library of Congress, since you live >> in >> Canada I would suggest you contact your local library and they can track >> it down if available in Canada. I also have phot copies of all of the old >> maps showing the paqrishes towns etc. I couldn't find a listing for >> Kildrum, this might be a modern spelling and you would need to find the >> original spelling. > Gordon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ > countries) for 2¢/min or less. > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >