Thank you Deane, Merry Christmas and a successful New Year to you and all you other internet athletes running the marathon, Richard Isaac Brisbane - Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: <nastrovia@juno.com> To: <nir-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 25, 2006 2:18 AM Subject: Re: [NIR-ANTRIM] Birth Belfast to O'Callaghan (CallaghanorCallahan)abt 1856 > Richard, > I have just started into No.Ireland records looking for my CRAIGs who > emigrated to America sometime between 1715 - 1740. Your laying out of > your research is both interesting and inspiring. I'm sure it is very > frustrating at times, particularly, when records were destroyed along the > way in past times. When I was searching for my Swedish great grandfather > I ran into destroyed records also. However, after several years of not > giving up, one of many helping individuals handed me the key information I > needed to break through the brick wall. Hang in there, good luck, and > thanks again. Merry Christmas. > Deane Craig in Las Vegas, Nevada USA > > -- "richard isaac" <bibiaust@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > Kay, > > Thank you for your response. I have monitored the census returns as > suggested but I am only able to identify the third child from 1881 > returns. > He was my GGrandfather Timothy who was in Birmingham and later London and > Sussex. The army did record the births but did not bother to list their > names, denomination or the exact place of birth. The best I have is > Belfast for 1855 -1856. > > 2nd and third children were born Cape Town.1860-1862. A third was in > Aldershot about 1864. The family then returned to Mallow in 1870 so I > missed the important 1871 Census, listing the family together. Overseas > UK > registration has no record of the overseas births. Not knowing the names > of these three children makes it difficult to find. By 1901 the children > would have left home and Cornelius and Elizabeth would likely have passed > away. > > The SA Government did not start BDM Registration until 1901 and the Irish > Records were burned before the incomplete 1901 census. > My only hope is to identify the Belfast / Londonderry birth place by > identifying the Rev William McLaughlin who married Cornelius and Elizabeth > and then trace the brides family (KENNEDY) which may give a clue to the > birth place or church and a christening record. > There were witnesses at the wedding (JAMES & MARGARET HEALEY) which may > open > a door if I can find them. > > I would love to meet the idiot(s) that destroyed all those records and in > doing so, separated thousands of families from all over the world.. > > Kindest regards, > Richard Isaac > Brisbane - Australia > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/601 - Release Date: > 12/24/2006 11:31 AM > >

Richard, I have just started into No.Ireland records looking for my CRAIGs who emigrated to America sometime between 1715 - 1740. Your laying out of your research is both interesting and inspiring. I'm sure it is very frustrating at times, particularly, when records were destroyed along the way in past times. When I was searching for my Swedish great grandfather I ran into destroyed records also. However, after several years of not giving up, one of many helping individuals handed me the key information I needed to break through the brick wall. Hang in there, good luck, and thanks again. Merry Christmas. Deane Craig in Las Vegas, Nevada USA -- "richard isaac" <bibiaust@optusnet.com.au> wrote: Kay, Thank you for your response. I have monitored the census returns as suggested but I am only able to identify the third child from 1881 returns. He was my GGrandfather Timothy who was in Birmingham and later London and Sussex. The army did record the births but did not bother to list their names, denomination or the exact place of birth. The best I have is Belfast for 1855 -1856. 2nd and third children were born Cape Town.1860-1862. A third was in Aldershot about 1864. The family then returned to Mallow in 1870 so I missed the important 1871 Census, listing the family together. Overseas UK registration has no record of the overseas births. Not knowing the names of these three children makes it difficult to find. By 1901 the children would have left home and Cornelius and Elizabeth would likely have passed away. The SA Government did not start BDM Registration until 1901 and the Irish Records were burned before the incomplete 1901 census. My only hope is to identify the Belfast / Londonderry birth place by identifying the Rev William McLaughlin who married Cornelius and Elizabeth and then trace the brides family (KENNEDY) which may give a clue to the birth place or church and a christening record. There were witnesses at the wedding (JAMES & MARGARET HEALEY) which may open a door if I can find them. I would love to meet the idiot(s) that destroyed all those records and in doing so, separated thousands of families from all over the world.. Kindest regards, Richard Isaac Brisbane - Australia

Kay, Thank you for your response. I have monitored the census returns as suggested but I am only able to identify the third child from 1881 returns. He was my GGrandfather Timothy who was in Birmingham and later London and Sussex. The army did record the births but did not bother to list their names, denomination or the exact place of birth. The best I have is Belfast for 1855 -1856. 2nd and third children were born Cape Town.1860-1862. A third was in Aldershot about 1864. The family then returned to Mallow in 1870 so I missed the important 1871 Census, listing the family together. Overseas UK registration has no record of the overseas births. Not knowing the names of these three children makes it difficult to find. By 1901 the children would have left home and Cornelius and Elizabeth would likely have passed away. The SA Government did not start BDM Registration until 1901 and the Irish Records were burned before the incomplete 1901 census. My only hope is to identify the Belfast / Londonderry birth place by identifying the Rev William McLaughlin who married Cornelius and Elizabeth and then trace the brides family (KENNEDY) which may give a clue to the birth place or church and a christening record. There were witnesses at the wedding (JAMES & MARGARET HEALEY) which may open a door if I can find them. I would love to meet the idiot(s) that destroyed all those records and in doing so, separated thousands of families from all over the world.. Kindest regards, Richard Isaac Brisbane - Australia . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kay DONALD CLARK" <grannykay@tiscali.co.uk> To: <nir-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 2:50 AM Subject: Re: [NIR-ANTRIM] Birth Belfast to O'Callaghan (Callaghan orCallahan)abt 1856 > Dear Richard > > Apologies if I am stating the obvious but have you looked in the censuses > from 1861 onwards for this child? Being in the army they may have > returned > to the UK and have been enumerated. > > Kay > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "richard isaac" <bibiaust@optusnet.com.au> > To: <NIR-ANTRIM@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 4:48 AM > Subject: [NIR-ANTRIM] Birth Belfast to O'Callaghan (Callaghan or > Callahan)abt 1856 > > >> >> Help needed in researching about 1810 - 1890 >> Cornelius O'Callaghan (Callaghan and Callahan are variations recorded by >> the very helpful regimental clerk) birth Mallow Co Cork about 1822. >> Married Elizabeth Kennedy Londonderry 1856 >> Birth of a Child to above - Name and Gender Unknown - assume birth >> Belfast >> or Derry about 1856. >> Cornelius was in the 59th Regiment of Foot and was recorded as posted to >> Belfast ?? His regimental records only provide the event but not the >> name of the child. >> Any help in identifying the birth and Childs name would be much >> appreciated. >> Richard Isaac - Brisbane - Australia >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NIR-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/600 - Release Date: > 12/23/2006 4:47 PM > >

Dear Richard Apologies if I am stating the obvious but have you looked in the censuses from 1861 onwards for this child? Being in the army they may have returned to the UK and have been enumerated. Kay ----- Original Message ----- From: "richard isaac" <bibiaust@optusnet.com.au> To: <NIR-ANTRIM@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 4:48 AM Subject: [NIR-ANTRIM] Birth Belfast to O'Callaghan (Callaghan or Callahan)abt 1856 > > Help needed in researching about 1810 - 1890 > Cornelius O'Callaghan (Callaghan and Callahan are variations recorded by > the very helpful regimental clerk) birth Mallow Co Cork about 1822. > Married Elizabeth Kennedy Londonderry 1856 > Birth of a Child to above - Name and Gender Unknown - assume birth Belfast > or Derry about 1856. > Cornelius was in the 59th Regiment of Foot and was recorded as posted to > Belfast ?? His regimental records only provide the event but not the > name of the child. > Any help in identifying the birth and Childs name would be much > appreciated. > Richard Isaac - Brisbane - Australia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Just wanting to say thanks to everyone who has helped me on my quest so far, and also to all those who may help in the future. Have a safe and festive Christmas and New Year. May the dead speak, and so may we listen. Kaaron

Some time agao a friend of genealogy sent me the new web site below for inclusion in my favourite links page. I have put this information onto my web site. I thought it might be of interest to other listers. The message as i received it is this: Here's a new web site and I am copying the information as it was received: "A wonderful new website has just been launched by Dr. Bill Macafee which will be interesting for everyone researching Ballymoney genealogy. Just like ballymoneyancestry.com, it is FREE. Follow the links below. Home page: http://www.billmacafee.com/index.htm See the Ballymoney Information at: http://www.billmacafee.com/ballymoneysources/index.htm Please leave your comments for Dr. Macafee here on the Forum [of ballymoneyancestry.com] and spread the word to genealogists everywhere looking for information on North Antrim. Keith Beattie Museum Manager" Best regards from Jean McCarthy nee Moore -- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jeanmccarthy36/ jeanmccarthy36@googlemail.com

Help needed in researching about 1810 - 1890 Cornelius O'Callaghan (Callaghan and Callahan are variations recorded by the very helpful regimental clerk) birth Mallow Co Cork about 1822. Married Elizabeth Kennedy Londonderry 1856 Birth of a Child to above - Name and Gender Unknown - assume birth Belfast or Derry about 1856. Cornelius was in the 59th Regiment of Foot and was recorded as posted to Belfast ?? His regimental records only provide the event but not the name of the child. Any help in identifying the birth and Childs name would be much appreciated. Richard Isaac - Brisbane - Australia

Hi Jen I have very little on my DUFF line but a Mary DUFF, aged 23, married at Ahoghill on 22 July 1865 (to Samuel MARTIN). Mary's father was John DUFF, weaver, from the townland of Straid. Her mother wasn't named on the marriage entry. I'm hoping mine may fit somewhere into your family research. Cheers. Gaile, Motueka, New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jen Watson" <jenwatson@dodo.com.au> To: <nir-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 5:18 PM Subject: [NIR-ANTRIM] DUFF's of Co Antrim > Looking for DUFF's in Co Antrim. > > I have Thomas DUFF, labourer and weaver, father of:- > * William DUFF born abt 1827 > - marries Martha Jane GRAHAM of Craigs, daughter of Samuel GRAHAM, weaver, > in 1846 Craigs near Ballymena. > > * Robert DUFF born abt 1831 > - marries Nancy WILSON of Dreen Ahoghill, daughter of Matthew WILSON, > weaver, in 1851 in Kirkinrola, Ballymena. > - marries Mary Jane DUFF of Loughmagarry, daughter of Andrew DUFF weaver, > in 1863 in Kirkinrola, Ballymena. > * son William DUFF born 12 July 1865 in Portglennone, Antrim. > > > Anyone else with these families in their research. Love to share > information. > > Kind regards > Jen > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Ticket and voyage diary http://www.mersey-gateway.org/server.php?show=conMediaFile.5820 http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/nof/emigrants/default.asp?[file]=intro.html&[nav]=1 Jane >A relative of mine immigrated from northern Ireland in 1850 on the Cooke >Line to Halifax [could also have done so via Cunard - Derry to Liverpool to >Quebec]. Anyone have any idea as to what a "ticket" might have looked like. >These are some what elusive as the ships at that time were not required to >keep lists per say. > > Thanks > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-DOWN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Looking for DUFF's in Co Antrim. I have Thomas DUFF, labourer and weaver, father of:- * William DUFF born abt 1827 - marries Martha Jane GRAHAM of Craigs, daughter of Samuel GRAHAM, weaver, in 1846 Craigs near Ballymena. * Robert DUFF born abt 1831 - marries Nancy WILSON of Dreen Ahoghill, daughter of Matthew WILSON, weaver, in 1851 in Kirkinrola, Ballymena. - marries Mary Jane DUFF of Loughmagarry, daughter of Andrew DUFF weaver, in 1863 in Kirkinrola, Ballymena. * son William DUFF born 12 July 1865 in Portglennone, Antrim. Anyone else with these families in their research. Love to share information. Kind regards Jen

A relative of mine immigrated from northern Ireland in 1850 on the Cooke Line to Halifax [could also have done so via Cunard - Derry to Liverpool to Quebec]. Anyone have any idea as to what a "ticket" might have looked like. These are some what elusive as the ships at that time were not required to keep lists per say. Thanks

Jen: The only thing we have in common is Ahoghill, my ancesters were at Ahoghill, Glagorm Estate in 1660, but I have no further record of them until 1700 or there abouts. Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jen Watson" <jenwatson@dodo.com.au> To: <nir-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 11:18 PM Subject: [NIR-ANTRIM] DUFF's of Co Antrim > Looking for DUFF's in Co Antrim. > > I have Thomas DUFF, labourer and weaver, father of:- > * William DUFF born abt 1827 > - marries Martha Jane GRAHAM of Craigs, daughter of Samuel GRAHAM, weaver, > in 1846 Craigs near Ballymena. > > * Robert DUFF born abt 1831 > - marries Nancy WILSON of Dreen Ahoghill, daughter of Matthew WILSON, > weaver, in 1851 in Kirkinrola, Ballymena. > - marries Mary Jane DUFF of Loughmagarry, daughter of Andrew DUFF weaver, > in 1863 in Kirkinrola, Ballymena. > * son William DUFF born 12 July 1865 in Portglennone, Antrim. > > > Anyone else with these families in their research. Love to share > information. > > Kind regards > Jen > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I guess I am just slow today. But what advertising codes are you given at this site?? Heather ----- Original Message ----- From: "E Macklin" <emacklin@rogers.com> To: <nir-down@rootsweb.com> Cc: <NIR-ANTRIM-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 1:16 PM Subject: [NIR-ANTRIM] Belfast Evening paper - Teusday Nite Ad in thePersonals > Hi Barb: > > The contact is at the Belfast Evening Telegraph ... > http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ .... looking up the advertising codes > they give you and use the three digit number in your e-mail to them .... > then compose your ad ..... 40 words or less ....then cross your fingers > that > they place it for you. If you know of anyone there in Belfast get them to > get a copy of the Tuesday night paper and see if its in there. > Its just one more venue for genealogists doing some local family research. > Hope you have better luck with your family as I now believe that the > Macklins in northern Ireland don't have computers, must still be crofters. > I'd recommend this venue to anyone trying to cover Belfast, Down and > Antrim. > Could be a whole new subject. Lets see what happens, ..... maybe I'll redo > mine. All the best. > > Eric > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.19/587 - Release Date: > 14/12/2006 7:28 PM > >

here is a suggestion for you that your surname might have been spelled very differently there. even so far as to be McLynn? or some variant..they were not into the scottish spellings much there. nancy --- E Macklin <emacklin@rogers.com> wrote: > Hi Barb: > > The contact is at the Belfast Evening Telegraph ... > http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ .... looking up the advertising > codes > they give you and use the three digit number in your e-mail to them > .... > then compose your ad ..... 40 words or less ....then cross your > fingers that > they place it for you. If you know of anyone there in Belfast get > them to > get a copy of the Tuesday night paper and see if its in there. > Its just one more venue for genealogists doing some local family > research. > Hope you have better luck with your family as I now believe that the > Macklins in northern Ireland don't have computers, must still be > crofters. > I'd recommend this venue to anyone trying to cover Belfast, Down and > Antrim. > Could be a whole new subject. Lets see what happens, ..... maybe I'll > redo > mine. All the best. > > Eric > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited

Hi Barb: The contact is at the Belfast Evening Telegraph ... http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ .... looking up the advertising codes they give you and use the three digit number in your e-mail to them .... then compose your ad ..... 40 words or less ....then cross your fingers that they place it for you. If you know of anyone there in Belfast get them to get a copy of the Tuesday night paper and see if its in there. Its just one more venue for genealogists doing some local family research. Hope you have better luck with your family as I now believe that the Macklins in northern Ireland don't have computers, must still be crofters. I'd recommend this venue to anyone trying to cover Belfast, Down and Antrim. Could be a whole new subject. Lets see what happens, ..... maybe I'll redo mine. All the best. Eric

This is a long shot. Anyone on the list know of a Macklin in Antrim or Down that has a computer ?? I placed an add in the personals with the Belfast Evening paper and wrote to 16 Macklins in both Antrim and Down .. two months ago and not a peep .... it was worth a try. Eric Macklin Canada

I am new to the list. I'm researching my great grandfather's family. James DORAN was born in March of 1852. His parents were John DORAN and Mary SCULLION. James left Ireland and arrived in Philadelphia on July 26, 1875. Any help will be appreciated. Barbara

Hullo Again Sorry I took so long to reply but have been checking out the websites you provided. Thank you. They have been most helpful. Still as confused as ever. Very hard for me to get my head around all the villages etc. Still plugging on, though. It seems like my ancestors didn't want to be found. I am proud of them and what they achieved here in Australia. They were admirable. I wonder if I could have survived everything they encountered when they hit Australia? I'm in awe of what they contributed to Australia. Thanks Kim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liam Martin" <L.Martin@zen.co.uk> To: <nir-antrim@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 10:38 PM Subject: Re: [NIR-ANTRIM] WILSON & JOHNSON FAMILIES > Are you looking at Dungannon rather than Duganman > (http://www.dungannon.gov.uk/) > > There is also Lemnaroy townland, Parish of Termoneeny (near Maghera) > http://www.from-ireland.net/lewis/derry/termoneeny.htm instead of Leminary > > Liam > "A bird in the bush is worth two in the cat" > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kim Butterfield" <kimsuzanne26@yahoo.com> > To: <NIR-ANTRIM@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 1:16 AM > Subject: [NIR-ANTRIM] WILSON & JOHNSON FAMILIES > > >> Hullo All >> >> I am looking for information on Gervis Johnson b.1737 >> Duganman, Tyrone, Ireland who married Mary Wilson >> b.1740 at Leminary Ireland in 1763. >> >> I know of 3 children who were born in Belfast, Antrim, >> Ireland: >> >> Mary 1776 >> Gervis 1773 >> Mary 1782 >> >> Any help greatly appreciated. >> >> Kim Butterfield - Australia >> >> >> >> Send instant messages to your online friends >> http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NIR-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.11/543 - Release Date: >> 20/11/2006 >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NIR-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Is anyone in the group researching the surname Conner? We think our Conner relative left for the USA aroun 1772-1774. Rick Hardebeck, Austin, Texas, USA

Trying to determine nobility of Lady Mary Hogg b. c1763 County Antrim, Ireland. m. James Poag b. c1759 County Antrim. If we understand peerage correctly, the younger sons and daughters of dukes, earls, and marquesses prefix Lord or Lady to their first names. To what family of nobility does Lary Mary belong to? Apparently, much to her family's consternation, Lady Mary fell in love with their gardener, James Poag, and due to family pressure, eloped with James and eventually removed to America [South Carolina]. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. r/Steven Mitchell - Naperville, IL USA