Anyone have any information or could be related to Archibald & Anna (McCormic) McDonald who I think lived in Drumadoon, Ballycastle, Antrim, Ireland? Their son, also named Archibald, was my great-great grandfather who emigrated to the U.S. in 1854 to the Anthracite coal regions of Pennsylvania - to Schuylkill County where I live. If relevant, could you send me E-mails at [email protected] . Thanks!! LAURIE (McDONALD) MALEY

Could be that listers don't realize that to respond "on-list" they need to click on "Reply All" not just "Reply". I agree with you. I like to read all the responses and hope I might just find that very important link. ----- Original Message ----- From: "ron @ carol" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 9:07 AM Subject: Re: Roll call one of the problems with these sites is people responding "off list." This eliminates any other possible connection. ----- Original Message ----- From: BARBARA MacQUARRIE <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 1:26 AM Subject: Re: Roll call > Hi List > I tried to reply to Eileen off-list but my message returned > undeliverable, so am posting to the list in the hope that Eileen has > access. > > You posted a message to the list in May this year giving your interest > in Crowes of Ballynure. I think we have a connection about 3 > generations back, although unfortunately I don't have an awful lot of > information for you. > > When your e-mail came in I gave my mother a copy as she was a Crowe > and had relatives from around Ballyboley / Straid / Ballynure (they're > all within a few miles radius). It has taken her until now, but she > has unearthed some information given to her by the wife of John Agnew > a distant cousin. > > Benjamin and Elizabeth Crowe (sorry - maiden name for Eliz) had a son > Samuel who married Margery Dollard 2 April 1839. They lived in > Straid. No other information known, but I am assuming Sam is yours. > > Benjamin and Elizabeth had a son Alexander Crowe, his details as > follows: > Alexander Crowe b ? X Annie Weatherup 2 June 1828 (she was the > daughter of John and Sally Weatherup). Their children: > Robert b 7 July 1828 went to America > Jenny b 19 March 1829 X David Clements of Headwood, Kilwaughter > Elizabeth b 24 June 1831 > Alexander b24 April 1832 > John (twin) b 14 Nov 1833 went to America > Patrick (twin) b 14 Nov 1833 X Margaret Rowney and thought to have > lived at Ballynashee > Ellen b 12 June 1837 > Benjamin b 12 July 1839 X Elizabeth Davis of Ballyvernstown Glenoe * > Thomas Hugh b 18 Dec 1841 X Mary Jamison, (her mother was Curran)** > Samuel b 27 July 1847 (died in infancy) > Samuel b 13 June 1849 went to America > Madge b 17 Mar 1852 X James McCullough of Ballysillan, Belfast > > * Benjamin Crowe and Elizabeth Davis are my mother's grandparents > ** Thomas Hugh and Mary's daughter Mary Agnes married John Agnew of > Ballylagan. It was the wife of their son John who provided this > information. > > My mother says that John Agnew told her that 2-3 years ago he heard > that a "Crowe" was being buried in Raloo cemetery and he attended the > funeral. The lady who had died apparently came from around Maghera in > Co Londonderry and John Agnew got into conversation at the funeral > with a man from there. It seems that this lady was in some way linked > to the Crowes from Straid (we think your Samuel's family). > Unfortunately John Agnew seems to know nothing more about the family - > Mum did ring but both John and his wife are very old and not in good > health. She asked about Samuel's family but they didn't seem able to > help and she didn't feel she could push them. > > I should say that Lyle, McAnally, McDowell and Simms are all good > solid Ballynure / Larne names so it sounds like they stayed around > Ballynure / Straid for a while. If you are near an LDS Family History > Centre, it may be worthwhile ordering the 1901 census record film for > the area. > > I must confess this has raised my interest again in the Crowes - I had > been concentrating on my father's side - the Mc/MacQuarries. Have you > any information on Andrew's siblings or what became of them ? > > Barbara > Islandmagee (about 10 miles from Ballynure) > Co Antrim > -----Original Message----- > From: Eileen Burgess <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Date: 17 May 2001 11:11 > Subject: Roll call > > > >I don't think that I have ever put my interest on so tks for the > push. > > > >My direct line is the Crowe family from Ballynure. The off shoots > are: Lyle, McAnally, Mathews, McDowell, Simms, Dollard > > > >Samuel Crowe - b. 1789? X Margery Dollard Apr. 2, 1839 > > Elizabeth Jane Crowe - b. Dec. 25, 1840 > > Robert Hugh Crowe - b. Apr. 20, 1841 > > Jane Scott Crowe - b. Dec. 5, 1842 X John Gillespie? > > John Crowe - b. Sept. 5, 1845 > > Margaret Crowe - b. Oct. 30, 1846 > > > >Robert Hugh Crowe married Margaret Lyle June 18, 1875 - they had 8 > children: > > Alexander Crowe - b. Aug 16, 1876 > > Samuel Crowe - b. Aug 16, 1876 > > Minnie Crowe - b. Apr 21, 1878 X Charles McDowell > > John Hall Crowe - b. Aug 14, 1880 X Jennie A. Simms > > Robert Hugh Crowe - b. May 24, 1881 d. Aug 3, 1899 > > Andrew Lorimer Crowe - b. Feb 28, 1883 X Mary > Agnes McAnally > > William Dollard Crowe - b. June 11, 1885 X Flora Ann > Taylor on June 10, 1919 > > Elizabeth Lyle Crowe - b. May 5, 1887 X Fred Smith > > > >Andrew Lorimer Crowe married Mary Agnes McAnally (McNally) on > November 21, 1908 > >Andrew and Mary came to Canada about 1910 > > > >tks > >Eileen (Crowe) Burgess > > > > > >============================== > >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > >Source for Family History Online. Go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11 > HB > > > > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

Hi List I tried to reply to Eileen off-list but my message returned undeliverable, so am posting to the list in the hope that Eileen has access. You posted a message to the list in May this year giving your interest in Crowes of Ballynure. I think we have a connection about 3 generations back, although unfortunately I don't have an awful lot of information for you. When your e-mail came in I gave my mother a copy as she was a Crowe and had relatives from around Ballyboley / Straid / Ballynure (they're all within a few miles radius). It has taken her until now, but she has unearthed some information given to her by the wife of John Agnew a distant cousin. Benjamin and Elizabeth Crowe (sorry - maiden name for Eliz) had a son Samuel who married Margery Dollard 2 April 1839. They lived in Straid. No other information known, but I am assuming Sam is yours. Benjamin and Elizabeth had a son Alexander Crowe, his details as follows: Alexander Crowe b ? X Annie Weatherup 2 June 1828 (she was the daughter of John and Sally Weatherup). Their children: Robert b 7 July 1828 went to America Jenny b 19 March 1829 X David Clements of Headwood, Kilwaughter Elizabeth b 24 June 1831 Alexander b24 April 1832 John (twin) b 14 Nov 1833 went to America Patrick (twin) b 14 Nov 1833 X Margaret Rowney and thought to have lived at Ballynashee Ellen b 12 June 1837 Benjamin b 12 July 1839 X Elizabeth Davis of Ballyvernstown Glenoe * Thomas Hugh b 18 Dec 1841 X Mary Jamison, (her mother was Curran)** Samuel b 27 July 1847 (died in infancy) Samuel b 13 June 1849 went to America Madge b 17 Mar 1852 X James McCullough of Ballysillan, Belfast * Benjamin Crowe and Elizabeth Davis are my mother's grandparents ** Thomas Hugh and Mary's daughter Mary Agnes married John Agnew of Ballylagan. It was the wife of their son John who provided this information. My mother says that John Agnew told her that 2-3 years ago he heard that a "Crowe" was being buried in Raloo cemetery and he attended the funeral. The lady who had died apparently came from around Maghera in Co Londonderry and John Agnew got into conversation at the funeral with a man from there. It seems that this lady was in some way linked to the Crowes from Straid (we think your Samuel's family). Unfortunately John Agnew seems to know nothing more about the family - Mum did ring but both John and his wife are very old and not in good health. She asked about Samuel's family but they didn't seem able to help and she didn't feel she could push them. I should say that Lyle, McAnally, McDowell and Simms are all good solid Ballynure / Larne names so it sounds like they stayed around Ballynure / Straid for a while. If you are near an LDS Family History Centre, it may be worthwhile ordering the 1901 census record film for the area. I must confess this has raised my interest again in the Crowes - I had been concentrating on my father's side - the Mc/MacQuarries. Have you any information on Andrew's siblings or what became of them ? Barbara Islandmagee (about 10 miles from Ballynure) Co Antrim -----Original Message----- From: Eileen Burgess <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: 17 May 2001 11:11 Subject: Roll call >I don't think that I have ever put my interest on so tks for the push. > >My direct line is the Crowe family from Ballynure. The off shoots are: Lyle, McAnally, Mathews, McDowell, Simms, Dollard > >Samuel Crowe - b. 1789? X Margery Dollard Apr. 2, 1839 > Elizabeth Jane Crowe - b. Dec. 25, 1840 > Robert Hugh Crowe - b. Apr. 20, 1841 > Jane Scott Crowe - b. Dec. 5, 1842 X John Gillespie? > John Crowe - b. Sept. 5, 1845 > Margaret Crowe - b. Oct. 30, 1846 > >Robert Hugh Crowe married Margaret Lyle June 18, 1875 - they had 8 children: > Alexander Crowe - b. Aug 16, 1876 > Samuel Crowe - b. Aug 16, 1876 > Minnie Crowe - b. Apr 21, 1878 X Charles McDowell > John Hall Crowe - b. Aug 14, 1880 X Jennie A. Simms > Robert Hugh Crowe - b. May 24, 1881 d. Aug 3, 1899 > Andrew Lorimer Crowe - b. Feb 28, 1883 X Mary Agnes McAnally > William Dollard Crowe - b. June 11, 1885 X Flora Ann Taylor on June 10, 1919 > Elizabeth Lyle Crowe - b. May 5, 1887 X Fred Smith > >Andrew Lorimer Crowe married Mary Agnes McAnally (McNally) on November 21, 1908 >Andrew and Mary came to Canada about 1910 > >tks >Eileen (Crowe) Burgess > > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11 HB > >

one of the problems with these sites is people responding "off list." This eliminates any other possible connection. ----- Original Message ----- From: BARBARA MacQUARRIE <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 1:26 AM Subject: Re: Roll call > Hi List > I tried to reply to Eileen off-list but my message returned > undeliverable, so am posting to the list in the hope that Eileen has > access. > > You posted a message to the list in May this year giving your interest > in Crowes of Ballynure. I think we have a connection about 3 > generations back, although unfortunately I don't have an awful lot of > information for you. > > When your e-mail came in I gave my mother a copy as she was a Crowe > and had relatives from around Ballyboley / Straid / Ballynure (they're > all within a few miles radius). It has taken her until now, but she > has unearthed some information given to her by the wife of John Agnew > a distant cousin. > > Benjamin and Elizabeth Crowe (sorry - maiden name for Eliz) had a son > Samuel who married Margery Dollard 2 April 1839. They lived in > Straid. No other information known, but I am assuming Sam is yours. > > Benjamin and Elizabeth had a son Alexander Crowe, his details as > follows: > Alexander Crowe b ? X Annie Weatherup 2 June 1828 (she was the > daughter of John and Sally Weatherup). Their children: > Robert b 7 July 1828 went to America > Jenny b 19 March 1829 X David Clements of Headwood, Kilwaughter > Elizabeth b 24 June 1831 > Alexander b24 April 1832 > John (twin) b 14 Nov 1833 went to America > Patrick (twin) b 14 Nov 1833 X Margaret Rowney and thought to have > lived at Ballynashee > Ellen b 12 June 1837 > Benjamin b 12 July 1839 X Elizabeth Davis of Ballyvernstown Glenoe * > Thomas Hugh b 18 Dec 1841 X Mary Jamison, (her mother was Curran)** > Samuel b 27 July 1847 (died in infancy) > Samuel b 13 June 1849 went to America > Madge b 17 Mar 1852 X James McCullough of Ballysillan, Belfast > > * Benjamin Crowe and Elizabeth Davis are my mother's grandparents > ** Thomas Hugh and Mary's daughter Mary Agnes married John Agnew of > Ballylagan. It was the wife of their son John who provided this > information. > > My mother says that John Agnew told her that 2-3 years ago he heard > that a "Crowe" was being buried in Raloo cemetery and he attended the > funeral. The lady who had died apparently came from around Maghera in > Co Londonderry and John Agnew got into conversation at the funeral > with a man from there. It seems that this lady was in some way linked > to the Crowes from Straid (we think your Samuel's family). > Unfortunately John Agnew seems to know nothing more about the family - > Mum did ring but both John and his wife are very old and not in good > health. She asked about Samuel's family but they didn't seem able to > help and she didn't feel she could push them. > > I should say that Lyle, McAnally, McDowell and Simms are all good > solid Ballynure / Larne names so it sounds like they stayed around > Ballynure / Straid for a while. If you are near an LDS Family History > Centre, it may be worthwhile ordering the 1901 census record film for > the area. > > I must confess this has raised my interest again in the Crowes - I had > been concentrating on my father's side - the Mc/MacQuarries. Have you > any information on Andrew's siblings or what became of them ? > > Barbara > Islandmagee (about 10 miles from Ballynure) > Co Antrim > -----Original Message----- > From: Eileen Burgess <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Date: 17 May 2001 11:11 > Subject: Roll call > > > >I don't think that I have ever put my interest on so tks for the > push. > > > >My direct line is the Crowe family from Ballynure. The off shoots > are: Lyle, McAnally, Mathews, McDowell, Simms, Dollard > > > >Samuel Crowe - b. 1789? X Margery Dollard Apr. 2, 1839 > > Elizabeth Jane Crowe - b. Dec. 25, 1840 > > Robert Hugh Crowe - b. Apr. 20, 1841 > > Jane Scott Crowe - b. Dec. 5, 1842 X John Gillespie? > > John Crowe - b. Sept. 5, 1845 > > Margaret Crowe - b. Oct. 30, 1846 > > > >Robert Hugh Crowe married Margaret Lyle June 18, 1875 - they had 8 > children: > > Alexander Crowe - b. Aug 16, 1876 > > Samuel Crowe - b. Aug 16, 1876 > > Minnie Crowe - b. Apr 21, 1878 X Charles McDowell > > John Hall Crowe - b. Aug 14, 1880 X Jennie A. Simms > > Robert Hugh Crowe - b. May 24, 1881 d. Aug 3, 1899 > > Andrew Lorimer Crowe - b. Feb 28, 1883 X Mary > Agnes McAnally > > William Dollard Crowe - b. June 11, 1885 X Flora Ann > Taylor on June 10, 1919 > > Elizabeth Lyle Crowe - b. May 5, 1887 X Fred Smith > > > >Andrew Lorimer Crowe married Mary Agnes McAnally (McNally) on > November 21, 1908 > >Andrew and Mary came to Canada about 1910 > > > >tks > >Eileen (Crowe) Burgess > > > > > >============================== > >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > >Source for Family History Online. Go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11 > HB > > > > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >

I am new to this list and am hoping someone can help me. I have been tracing my husband's family tree for about a year and recently a cousin of his asked if I could help him. On his behalf I am trying to trace a family by the name of ROSS who, so the family story goes, had one (or more) butchers shops in Belfast in the 1930's. This may not be true but I thought if anyone had access to any trade directories for that period they could see if there were any butchers by the name of ROSS. On the death of the head of the household his wife and daughter moved to Portaferry and possibly sold the shops. The son Alexander was in the RAF at the time and married a Jessie GEBBELS in Oxfordshire, England in 1940. They had one son Colin John ROSS born in 1942, however, they divorced when Colin was young. He remembers visiting Portaferry when he was about 4. He believes his father died around 1950 but has no real information. He would dearly love to find out about his Irish family and find his father's grave if possible. If anyone can help I would be really grateful. Any suggestions on other avenues to pursue would also be welcome as I haven't any knowledge on the types of records that may be available in Ireland as my own research has been in England and Scotland. Thanks in anticipation. Sue Gebbels Oxfordshire

Hi Listers, I've been sitting back here gathering information for a query to this list. I'm hoping to find further information on the family of my grandmother Annie E. McNAMARA. According to her birth registration she was born Sept. 16, 1902, registered in the District of Belfast Urban #4 in the Supt. Registrar's District of Belfast in the Cnty. of Antrim. Her father was John McNAMARA and her mother was Mary McNAMARA formerly CONNOLLY. John McNAMARA was a Tram Driver and they lived at 67 Edinburgh St. Names I have for other children in this family are Ernie, John, Mabel, Maize, Elsie and Lily, I have no birth dates ar other information. The family immigrated to Toronto, Ont. Canada in the early 1900's. Annie McNAMARA married George W.T. BACON abt. 1920 in Toronto, Ont., she died Aug. 1959 and is buried in Hamilton, Ont. Canada. Have a great day. :-) Jack Bacon in sunny, hot Caledonia, Ont. <[email protected]>

Do you have any info that your first James Wilson from Finvoy might have had a brother named Robert who would have been born around 1825 and would have been in New York City by 1855? Bob Wilson --- S Faubert <[email protected]> wrote: > Sorry for the repetition. Here is my family tree... > Descendants of James Wilson > Generation No. 1 > 1. JAMES1 WILSON. > Notes for JAMES WILSON: > Aunt Annie Wilson and Uncle Bertie of Coleraine have > said that James > Wilson came from Finvoy and walked to Coleraine with > his leather satchel > full of shoemaking supplies. > More About JAMES WILSON: > Occupation: Labourer > Child of JAMES WILSON is: > 2. i. JOSEPH2 WILSON, b. 1843, Coleraine, > Northern Ireland; d. > April 18, 1921, Coleraine, Northern Ireland. > Generation No. 2 > 2. JOSEPH2 WILSON (JAMES1) was born 1843 in > Coleraine, Northern > Ireland, and died April 18, 1921 in Coleraine, > Northern Ireland. He > married BESSY (ELIZABETH) WILTON May 3, 1863 in > Killowen Parish Church, > Coleraine, Northern Ireland, daughter of DAVID > WILTON. > More About JOSEPH WILSON: > Occupation: Boot and shoe merchant > Children of JOSEPH WILSON and BESSY WILTON are: > 3. i. JOSEPH3 WILSON, b. April 13, 1871, > Northern Ireland; d. > February 12, 1947, Port Stewart, Northern Ireland. > ii. JAMES WILSON JR, b. 1864, Coleraine, > Northern Ireland; d. > May 11, 1887, Coleraine, Northern Ireland. > 4. iii. ELLEN WILSON, b. December 11, 1865, > Killowen Street, > Killowen, Northern Ireland; d. March 19, 1946, > Northern Ireland. > Generation No. 3 > 3. JOSEPH3 WILSON (JOSEPH2, JAMES1) was born April > 13, 1871 in Northern > Ireland, and died February 12, 1947 in Port Stewart, > Northern Ireland. > He married MAGGIE (MARGARET) GRACEY SHANNON, > daughter of JOHN SHANNON > and BARBARA BROWN. > Living in Coleraine Joseph owned a boot and shoe > shop. He was in fact a > very kindly man and Jack got along with him really > well. There was nine > in the Wilson family, five boys and four girls. > More About JOSEPH WILSON: > Cause of Death (Facts Page): February 12, 1947, > Disease of Prostate > Gland > Occupation: Boot and shoe merchant > Children of JOSEPH WILSON and MAGGIE SHANNON are: > 5. i. THOMAS BROWNE4 WILSON, b. June 26, 1906, > Coleraine, Northern > Ireland; d. April 19, 1984, Peterborough, Ontario > Ashes scattered in > Coleraine. > 6. ii. BARBARA WYLIE WILSON, b. Coleraine, > Northern Ireland. > iii. JAMES WILSON, b. 1896, Coleraine, > Northern Ireland; d. > October 9, 1916, France Battle of Psalm. > iv. JOE WILSON, m. MARGARET MCLELLAND. > v. BESSY WILSON, b. 1902, Coleraine, > Northern Ireland; d. May > 15, 1902, Coleraine, Northern Ireland. > vi. JACK SHANNON WILSON, b. 1904, Circular > Road, Coleraine, > Northern Ireland; d. 1974, ? , Northern Ireland; m. > HELEN TAYLOR. > vii. MARGARET GRACEY WILSON, d. October 1972, > Worcester Park, > England; m. ARCHIE WRIGHT, June 20, 1934, New Row > Pres Church, Coleraine > Northern Ireland. > viii. ROBERT (BERTIE) ALFRED WILSON, b. April > 25, 1909, Coleraine, > Northern Ireland; d. May 13, 1987, Coleraine, > Northern Ireland; m. ANNIE > ACHESON, October 14, 1938, Registry Office, > Coleraine, Northern Ireland. > Notes for ROBERT (BERTIE) ALFRED WILSON: > > 7. ix. KATHLEEN MARY WILSON, b. August 3, 1911, > Coleraine, Northern > Ireland. > x. HELEN ISABEL WILSON, b. March 18, 1915, > Coleraine, Northern > Ireland; d. December 28, 1997, Victoria, BC. > > Notes for HELEN ISABEL WILSON: > Notes given to Sue Faubert from Ric Wilson Nov 1998: > Helen immigrated to Canada 1957. She visited Tom > and Hazel Wilson June, > July 1957 on her way to the West Coast of Canada. > They travelled to > Quebec City with Ric (age 22) and then dropped off > Ric went by ship > (Homeric) to Britian. > > Helen was on route to West Coast to live with Maudie > Crawford in > Victoria. > > Worked at HMCS Naden, in the office in Victoria. She > worked there until > she retired. > > She retired 1989 (approx). > Helen was an avid golfer. > > > 4. ELLEN3 WILSON (JOSEPH2, JAMES1) was born > December 11, 1865 in > Killowen Street, Killowen, Northern Ireland, and > died March 19, 1946 in > Northern Ireland. She married JOHN SHANNON, son of > JOHN SHANNON and > BARBARA BROWN. > > Notes for JOHN SHANNON: > He was age 62 when he died > He was an editor for the Coleraine Chronicle > newspaper > > Children of ELLEN WILSON and JOHN SHANNON are: > 8. i. JOSEPH WILSON4 SHANNON. > 9. ii. WILLIAM ALFRED SHANNON. > 10. iii. ELIZABETH WILSON SHANNON, b. Adelaide > Ave, Coleraine, > Northern Ireland. > iv. JOHN SHANNON, b. 1893; d. October 9, > 1895, Coleraine, > Northern Ireland. > > > Generation No. 4 > > 5. THOMAS BROWNE4 WILSON (JOSEPH3, JOSEPH2, JAMES1) > was born June 26, > 1906 in Coleraine, Northern Ireland, and died April > 19, 1984 in > Peterborough, Ontario Ashes scattered in Coleraine. > He married HAZEL > WORR, daughter of THOMAS WORR and MARY BOUGHEN. > > Child of THOMAS WILSON and HAZEL WORR is: > i. RODERICK JOSEPH5 WILSON, b. October 10, > 1934, 3 Place > Toronto, Ontario; m. JOYCE ELIZABETH SEYMOUR, August > 15, 1964, > Springville United Church, Rev Hopkins. > > 6. BARBARA WYLIE4 WILSON (JOSEPH3, JOSEPH2, JAMES1) > was born in > Coleraine, Northern Ireland. She married ROBERT > JOHN MCCANDLESS > September 11, 1919 in New Row Pres Church, Coleraine > Northern Ireland. > > Notes for BARBARA WYLIE WILSON: > Notes were given to Sue Faubert from Jack McCandless > in 1997. > > The McCandless family (Barbara and Robert) lived in > a tiny village in > Central Scotland called Cambus (between Stirling and > Alloa) The house > was in a terrace owned by the Distillers Company > Ltd. and Robert was a > Customs and Excise Officer in what became the > biggest grain distillery > in Scotland. > > The fields and woods where Jack played as a boy are > now covered by an > estate of enormous whisky warehouses. He spent the > last 15/20 years of > his working life there. > > Barbara died in 1959 aged 67 of some heart > condition. The 3 kids, > Margaret, Betty and Jack. They all went to the same > schools. > > > > > More About ROBERT JOHN MCCANDLESS: > Occupation: Civil Servant, Port Stewart > > Children of BARBARA WILSON and ROBERT MCCANDLESS > are: > i. MARGARET ANNE5 MCCANDLESS, b. September > 16, 1923; d. 1988; > m. (1) JOHN RITCHIE STEIN (JACK); m. (2) THOMAS > MCLAREN === message truncated === ===== "PRO ARIS ET PRO FOCIS" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

ANY INFORMATION ON FARMLAND OF Patrick Haveron and his sister Mary. Died about 1958. Lived near the Butler family. May have been the grandchildren of Francis Haveron and Margaret Sterling. Thank you Marianne in Las Vegas

Robert Hume of Larne b. 1814 Agnes Hume b. 1817 childrem Maryb. 1837 Margaret b. 1839 Agnes b. 1840. Agnes married Patrick McKinty of the Drains b. 1838 children Annie and Lizzie married Haveron cousins, Thomas and Alexander. Looking for ANY information on this family. Thank you Marianne

http://www.from-ireland.net/contents/antrimcont.htm and for Netscape users.......... click on http://www.from-ireland.net/netscapeviewers/conts/antrimcontnet.htm

Hi Mike Can't help with those McCartneys but one of my rels, a Bella Cassells, b about 1880 in Tannaghmore [or Lurgan?], Armagh, married a William McCartney. Best wishes David Cassells ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Adams <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 3:19 AM Subject: "McCARTNEY's" of Co Antrim, North Ireland > Seek interest in the "McCartney's" of Co Antrim, North Ireland. > > In 1901, brother & sister, Nathaniel McCartney (b.1883) & Sarah McCartney > (b. 1885), lived with their spinster Aunts Emma Adams (b.1843) & Susanah > Adams (b.1851), in the townland of Aghacarnan, PLU Lisburn, parish > Magheragall, county Antrim. They were Methodist. (Info from the 1901 Irish > census on LDS film # 0807199, section 148/1, form A # 11.) > > Does anyone have a common interest in this family? Please respond on my > direct email address below. > > Regards, > > Mike Adams > > [email protected] >

Sorry for the repetition. Here is my family tree... Descendants of James Wilson Generation No. 1 1. JAMES1 WILSON. Notes for JAMES WILSON: Aunt Annie Wilson and Uncle Bertie of Coleraine have said that James Wilson came from Finvoy and walked to Coleraine with his leather satchel full of shoemaking supplies. More About JAMES WILSON: Occupation: Labourer Child of JAMES WILSON is: 2. i. JOSEPH2 WILSON, b. 1843, Coleraine, Northern Ireland; d. April 18, 1921, Coleraine, Northern Ireland. Generation No. 2 2. JOSEPH2 WILSON (JAMES1) was born 1843 in Coleraine, Northern Ireland, and died April 18, 1921 in Coleraine, Northern Ireland. He married BESSY (ELIZABETH) WILTON May 3, 1863 in Killowen Parish Church, Coleraine, Northern Ireland, daughter of DAVID WILTON. More About JOSEPH WILSON: Occupation: Boot and shoe merchant Children of JOSEPH WILSON and BESSY WILTON are: 3. i. JOSEPH3 WILSON, b. April 13, 1871, Northern Ireland; d. February 12, 1947, Port Stewart, Northern Ireland. ii. JAMES WILSON JR, b. 1864, Coleraine, Northern Ireland; d. May 11, 1887, Coleraine, Northern Ireland. 4. iii. ELLEN WILSON, b. December 11, 1865, Killowen Street, Killowen, Northern Ireland; d. March 19, 1946, Northern Ireland. Generation No. 3 3. JOSEPH3 WILSON (JOSEPH2, JAMES1) was born April 13, 1871 in Northern Ireland, and died February 12, 1947 in Port Stewart, Northern Ireland. He married MAGGIE (MARGARET) GRACEY SHANNON, daughter of JOHN SHANNON and BARBARA BROWN. Living in Coleraine Joseph owned a boot and shoe shop. He was in fact a very kindly man and Jack got along with him really well. There was nine in the Wilson family, five boys and four girls. More About JOSEPH WILSON: Cause of Death (Facts Page): February 12, 1947, Disease of Prostate Gland Occupation: Boot and shoe merchant Children of JOSEPH WILSON and MAGGIE SHANNON are: 5. i. THOMAS BROWNE4 WILSON, b. June 26, 1906, Coleraine, Northern Ireland; d. April 19, 1984, Peterborough, Ontario Ashes scattered in Coleraine. 6. ii. BARBARA WYLIE WILSON, b. Coleraine, Northern Ireland. iii. JAMES WILSON, b. 1896, Coleraine, Northern Ireland; d. October 9, 1916, France Battle of Psalm. iv. JOE WILSON, m. MARGARET MCLELLAND. v. BESSY WILSON, b. 1902, Coleraine, Northern Ireland; d. May 15, 1902, Coleraine, Northern Ireland. vi. JACK SHANNON WILSON, b. 1904, Circular Road, Coleraine, Northern Ireland; d. 1974, ? , Northern Ireland; m. HELEN TAYLOR. vii. MARGARET GRACEY WILSON, d. October 1972, Worcester Park, England; m. ARCHIE WRIGHT, June 20, 1934, New Row Pres Church, Coleraine Northern Ireland. viii. ROBERT (BERTIE) ALFRED WILSON, b. April 25, 1909, Coleraine, Northern Ireland; d. May 13, 1987, Coleraine, Northern Ireland; m. ANNIE ACHESON, October 14, 1938, Registry Office, Coleraine, Northern Ireland. Notes for ROBERT (BERTIE) ALFRED WILSON: 7. ix. KATHLEEN MARY WILSON, b. August 3, 1911, Coleraine, Northern Ireland. x. HELEN ISABEL WILSON, b. March 18, 1915, Coleraine, Northern Ireland; d. December 28, 1997, Victoria, BC. Notes for HELEN ISABEL WILSON: Notes given to Sue Faubert from Ric Wilson Nov 1998: Helen immigrated to Canada 1957. She visited Tom and Hazel Wilson June, July 1957 on her way to the West Coast of Canada. They travelled to Quebec City with Ric (age 22) and then dropped off Ric went by ship (Homeric) to Britian. Helen was on route to West Coast to live with Maudie Crawford in Victoria. Worked at HMCS Naden, in the office in Victoria. She worked there until she retired. She retired 1989 (approx). Helen was an avid golfer. 4. ELLEN3 WILSON (JOSEPH2, JAMES1) was born December 11, 1865 in Killowen Street, Killowen, Northern Ireland, and died March 19, 1946 in Northern Ireland. She married JOHN SHANNON, son of JOHN SHANNON and BARBARA BROWN. Notes for JOHN SHANNON: He was age 62 when he died He was an editor for the Coleraine Chronicle newspaper Children of ELLEN WILSON and JOHN SHANNON are: 8. i. JOSEPH WILSON4 SHANNON. 9. ii. WILLIAM ALFRED SHANNON. 10. iii. ELIZABETH WILSON SHANNON, b. Adelaide Ave, Coleraine, Northern Ireland. iv. JOHN SHANNON, b. 1893; d. October 9, 1895, Coleraine, Northern Ireland. Generation No. 4 5. THOMAS BROWNE4 WILSON (JOSEPH3, JOSEPH2, JAMES1) was born June 26, 1906 in Coleraine, Northern Ireland, and died April 19, 1984 in Peterborough, Ontario Ashes scattered in Coleraine. He married HAZEL WORR, daughter of THOMAS WORR and MARY BOUGHEN. Child of THOMAS WILSON and HAZEL WORR is: i. RODERICK JOSEPH5 WILSON, b. October 10, 1934, 3 Place Toronto, Ontario; m. JOYCE ELIZABETH SEYMOUR, August 15, 1964, Springville United Church, Rev Hopkins. 6. BARBARA WYLIE4 WILSON (JOSEPH3, JOSEPH2, JAMES1) was born in Coleraine, Northern Ireland. She married ROBERT JOHN MCCANDLESS September 11, 1919 in New Row Pres Church, Coleraine Northern Ireland. Notes for BARBARA WYLIE WILSON: Notes were given to Sue Faubert from Jack McCandless in 1997. The McCandless family (Barbara and Robert) lived in a tiny village in Central Scotland called Cambus (between Stirling and Alloa) The house was in a terrace owned by the Distillers Company Ltd. and Robert was a Customs and Excise Officer in what became the biggest grain distillery in Scotland. The fields and woods where Jack played as a boy are now covered by an estate of enormous whisky warehouses. He spent the last 15/20 years of his working life there. Barbara died in 1959 aged 67 of some heart condition. The 3 kids, Margaret, Betty and Jack. They all went to the same schools. More About ROBERT JOHN MCCANDLESS: Occupation: Civil Servant, Port Stewart Children of BARBARA WILSON and ROBERT MCCANDLESS are: i. MARGARET ANNE5 MCCANDLESS, b. September 16, 1923; d. 1988; m. (1) JOHN RITCHIE STEIN (JACK); m. (2) THOMAS MCLAREN LAIRD. Notes for MARGARET ANNE MCCANDLESS: Given to Sue Faubert in note format from Jack McCandless 1997. Margaret married Jack Stein (now deceased) who was also at the same school. They had two children, Ric and Lynda. Ric was a Fleet Air Army pilot for seven years and then became a pilot with British European Airways as they were at theat time. He died of a heart attack in his early thirties. This was an enormous surprise to everybody because he had been having annual aircrew medical examinations for some 12 years or more. He and his wife had 3 kids. Lynda is married to Tim Greensides. Tim was the senior communications rating in the Royal Navy when he retired two years ago. Lynda had also been in the RN, finishing as a Petty Officer Wren when she married Tim. They have a daughter Louise who is now married and living in Peterburgh. Margarets first husband, Jack Stein, died of a heart attack and much later in life, she married her second husband, Tom Laird. Margaret died of cancer in 1988 aged 67. Tom is now about 77 and is very frail. He lives in a retirement home in Bo'ness, spending most of his time in bed. Betty was married to Jim Kennedy who she met while they were both in the services during the war. The marriage was not a success and they separated in 1955 and divorced fairly quickly. Their daughter Fiona was born in 1956 and Betty raised Fiona on her own. Both Margaret and Betty were teachers for a number of years but Betty left teaching and became a Civil Servant in the DHSS until she retired. Betty died of secondary breast cancer in 1987 aged 65. Fiona lives and works as a dentist in Bright. Fiona's first marriage ended in divorce and she is now married to Mark Beland, a computer programmer. ii. BARBARA ELIZABETH MCCANDLESS, b. January 9, 1922; m. TOM KENNEDY. More About BARBARA ELIZABETH MCCANDLESS: Separated: 1955 iii. ROBERT JOHN (JACK) MCCANDLESS, b. September 25, 1924; m. (1) HAZEL MARY MOREWOOD; m. (2) WINIFRED MARY FIDLER (NEE PURVEY). 7. KATHLEEN MARY4 WILSON (JOSEPH3, JOSEPH2, JAMES1) was born August 3, 1911 in Coleraine, Northern Ireland. She married JACK FOX. Children of KATHLEEN WILSON and JACK FOX are: i. CHARLES5 FOX. ii. MARGARET FOX, m. GRANT TSCHANTZ. 8. JOSEPH WILSON4 SHANNON (ELLEN3 WILSON, JOSEPH2, JAMES1). He married HELENA MILLS. Children of JOSEPH SHANNON and HELENA MILLS are: i. REGIONAL JOE5 SHANNON, b. 1917; d. 1995; m. LILY TBA. ii. GERALDINE (SAMUELS) SHANNON. 9. WILLIAM ALFRED4 SHANNON (ELLEN3 WILSON, JOSEPH2, JAMES1). He married NORA CRAWFORD. Children of WILLIAM SHANNON and NORA CRAWFORD are: i. BARBARA5 SHANNON. ii. ELIZABETH SHANNON. iii. NORA SHANNON. 10. ELIZABETH WILSON4 SHANNON (ELLEN3 WILSON, JOSEPH2, JAMES1) was born in Adelaide Ave, Coleraine, Northern Ireland. She married JOHN HOUSTON September 11, 1923 in New Row Pres Church, Coleraine Northern Ireland. Child of ELIZABETH SHANNON and JOHN HOUSTON is: i. 1 SON TBA5 HOUSTON. Descendants of William Brown Generation No. 1 1. WILLIAM1 BROWN. Child of WILLIAM BROWN is: 2. i. BARBARA2 BROWN. Generation No. 2 2. BARBARA2 BROWN (WILLIAM1). She married JOHN SHANNON December 1, 1859 in New Row Pres Church, Coleraine Northern Ireland, son of JAMES SHANNON. More About JOHN SHANNON: Occupation: Editor of Newspaper Children of BARBARA BROWN and JOHN SHANNON are: 3. i. MAGGIE (MARGARET) GRACEY3 SHANNON, b. 1872, Coleraine, Northern Ireland; d. February 20, 1920, Coleraine, Northern Ireland. ii. DR. WILLIAM SHANNON. iii. JAMES SHANNON. iv. ROBERT (BOB) SHANNON. v. ALFRED SHANNON. vi. THOMAS BROWNE SHANNON. vii. BARBARA SHANNON. Generation No. 3 3. MAGGIE (MARGARET) GRACEY3 SHANNON (BARBARA2 BROWN, WILLIAM1) was born 1872 in Coleraine, Northern Ireland, and died February 20, 1920 in Coleraine, Northern Ireland. She married JOSEPH WILSON, son of JOSEPH WILSON and BESSY WILTON. Descendants of David Wilton Generation No. 1 1. DAVID1 WILTON died May 13, 1897 in Rosemary Lane. Notes for DAVID WILTON: He was 59 years old when he died More About DAVID WILTON: Occupation: Black Smith Children of DAVID WILTON are: 2. i. BESSY (ELIZABETH)2 WILTON, b. 1831, coleraine, Northern Ireland; d. August 3, 1916, coleraine, Northern Ireland. ii. MARGARET SARA WILTON, m. WILLIAM PARK, July 12, 1888. Notes for WILLIAM PARK: Occupation: Pork curer iii. THOMAS WILTON. iv. JUNE WILTON. v. JOHN WILTON. Generation No. 2 2. BESSY (ELIZABETH)2 WILTON (DAVID1) was born 1831 in coleraine, Northern Ireland, and died August 3, 1916 in coleraine, Northern Ireland. She married JOSEPH WILSON May 3, 1863 in Killowen Parish Church, Coleraine, Northern Ireland, son of JAMES WILSON. Descendants of James Shannon Generation No. 1 1. JAMES1 SHANNON. More About JAMES SHANNON: Occupation: Shoemaker Children of JAMES SHANNON are: 2. i. JOHN2 SHANNON. ii. MARY SHANNON. Generation No. 2 2. JOHN2 SHANNON (JAMES1). He married BARBARA BROWN December 1, 1859 in New Row Pres Church, Coleraine Northern Ireland, daughter of WILLIAM BROWN. More About JOHN SHANNON: Occupation: Editor of Newspaper Children of JOHN SHANNON and BARBARA BROWN are: 3. i. MAGGIE (MARGARET) GRACEY3 SHANNON, b. 1872, Coleraine, Northern Ireland; d. February 20, 1920, Coleraine, Northern Ireland. ii. DR. WILLIAM SHANNON. iii. JAMES SHANNON. iv. ROBERT (BOB) SHANNON. v. ALFRED SHANNON. vi. THOMAS BROWNE SHANNON. vii. BARBARA SHANNON. Generation No. 3 3. MAGGIE (MARGARET) GRACEY3 SHANNON (JOHN2, JAMES1) was born 1872 in Coleraine, Northern Ireland, and died February 20, 1920 in Coleraine, Northern Ireland. She married JOSEPH WILSON, son of JOSEPH WILSON and BESSY WILTON.

Seek interest in the "McCartney's" of Co Antrim, North Ireland. In 1901, brother & sister, Nathaniel McCartney (b.1883) & Sarah McCartney (b. 1885), lived with their spinster Aunts Emma Adams (b.1843) & Susanah Adams (b.1851), in the townland of Aghacarnan, PLU Lisburn, parish Magheragall, county Antrim. They were Methodist. (Info from the 1901 Irish census on LDS film # 0807199, section 148/1, form A # 11.) Does anyone have a common interest in this family? Please respond on my direct email address below. Regards, Mike Adams [email protected]

Seek interest in the "ADAMS" family of Co Antrim, North Ireland. In 1901, spinster aunts Emma Adams (b.1843) & Susanah Adams (b.1851, lived with their nephew & niece Nathaniel McCartney (b.1883) & Sarah McCartney (b. 1885), in the townland of Aghacarnan, PLU Lisburn, parish Magheragall, county Antrim. They were Methodist. (Info from the 1901 Irish census on LDS film # 0807199, section 148/1, form A # 11.) Does anyone have a common interest in this family? Please respond on my direct email address below. Regards, Mike Adams [email protected]

hello, i am hoping for a longshot. My g.g. grandfather was a primitive methodist minister named William McGavern. He got his start in the ministry about 1862 in Lisburn, outside of Belfast. The archivist for the Methodist Church indicated that it was likely the church or area of ireland from where he grew up. Until 1833 his father John McGavern served in the 6th Inniskilling Dragoons, which travelled about Europe. We are not sure exactly where the family was between 1833 and 1862, but think they may have settled near the Porto Bello Barricks near Belfast. William left for Canada in 1865. I am hoping to find evidence that Mary and John McGavern (his parents) are buried in or near Lisburn, either in the Methodist cemetery, Church of Ireland, or even Presbyterian (mary was scottish). I have absolutely no idea when either of them died, just know they did not emigrate to Canada with their children. I have ordered the death indexes for ireland (post 1864) from LDS but am waiting for their arrival. Any suggestions about search ideas would be welcome. i am completely clueless. thanks, heidi ford [email protected]

Is there anyone on this list researching the surname PORTER? My gr.grandfather had "Porter" as his middle name. I believe it may have been his mother's maiden name. I have no further information - this is just a hunch but, you never know, it may lead to something. Since I have nothing else to go on I thought I would give it a try. Lorraine

--- [email protected] wrote: > Hi listers; > > I am needing some help. I have traced an ancestor > James Quinn, b.1837 > leaving Antrim in 1862 and arriving in New Zealand. > He is listed as > traveling with a wife Jane, b. ab. 1831. I believe > her name is Ferguson or > Sturgeon (some conflicting evidence). I would like > to find perhaps a > marriage record for this couple. Where would I go > about looking. This is > really all of the info I have regarding these folks > in Ireland. I would > appreciate any suggestions or advice. Thank you. > Janet > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > ........................................ Janet; Where in Co.Antrim did they leave from and where were they living? Thanks, Shar __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/

Hi listers; I am needing some help. I have traced an ancestor James Quinn, b.1837 leaving Antrim in 1862 and arriving in New Zealand. He is listed as traveling with a wife Jane, b. ab. 1831. I believe her name is Ferguson or Sturgeon (some conflicting evidence). I would like to find perhaps a marriage record for this couple. Where would I go about looking. This is really all of the info I have regarding these folks in Ireland. I would appreciate any suggestions or advice. Thank you. Janet

Thanks for your reply Peter, although I am a little confused. I received an email from the Dublin GRO the other day and the lady there told me of every other possible way that one could pay for certs. but that credit cards were no go! Thus I would be very interested if you could elaborate on your procedure. Many thanks David ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 9:28 PM Subject: Re: NIR-ANTRIM-D Digest V01 #96 > David, I have requested and received certificates from Dublin and paid by > credit card with no problem at all. > Peter. > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

Hi List Just re-posting my interests for the benefit of any newcomers to the list. Samuel MOORE married Elizabeth PHILLIS - uncertain as to where and when but they had at least one child, Elizabeth, at Broughshane around 1826. John FELLOWS (or FALLOWS) married Agnes MC LE(I)NTOCK, again uncertain as to where and when but probably in the 1820s. They had at least one child, Jane, whose death certificate (issued in Victoria, Australia in 1853) states that she was born in Antrim. Age at death was 24, thus making her born around 1829. As FILLIS, PHILLIS, and FELLOWS, appear to be variant spellings/pronunciations of the same name, the families might perhaps be linked. Any help or thoughts would be appreciated. Regards Peter, the older of the tworobbos at Bairnsdale, premier city of the Victorian Riviera