Thanks to all who replied to my request for help with street locations in Urban Belfast. As a result, found a site where you can buy circa 1901 copies of Belfast maps: http://www.alangodfreymaps.co.uk/ and a site showing a detailed map of a large portion of Urban Belfast:www.belfast.net/mo/map.htm I hope this info helps others, 'cos that's what this game's all about! Regards David Australia

Thanks for your reply Chris. I gather you have a copy of the Ordinance map? I had a look at the Godfrey site and I will order a map for myself. Another lady replied to my posting and showed me a website with modern Belfast. I had been searching for such a site for a while with no luck. On the map it shows Ardilea St and also Ewarts Row and Lisburn Rd. Only one I haven't found is Silverstream (Rd?). This info should help me when I order the Belfast 1901 census because you can get your bearings when you're scrolling thru the info, I think? Anyway , if this isn't the case, it's still nice to know the locations of your rellies births! P.S. the website is: www.belfast.net/mo/map.htm Thanks again for your help. Regards David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Morgan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 6:08 PM Subject: Re: 1901 census- street name : ARDILEA ST. > > > "I have some birth certificates with the districts listed as Belfast Urban 4, Urban 10 and > >Urban 11. I'm trying to find out where these districts are in Belfast so that I can do a > >search on the 1901 census." The Urban 11 certificate has the street name Ardilea St for > >the year 1895. Would anybody know where this is? > > > > Any help appreciated. Also, are there any good websites with street maps of Belfast? > > > > Regards > > David > > Don't know of any websites with detailed good maps of Belfast, but if you want to trace > the old streets you may wish to look at the excellent reproductions of Old Ordnance > Survey Maps published by Alan Godfrey. All of the developed areas of Belfast are covered > at the original scale of 1:2500 for the period 1902-1930 (varies according to sheet). > Website is at http://www.alangodfreymaps.co.uk/ Excellent value, see below. > > However, Ardilea Street still appears in the Index of Streets on my 1998 map, postal area > BT14, in square F6. It is a cul-de-sac, just to the south of Old Park Road, taking off to the > city side of it's junction with Old Park Avenue. St Gemma's Secondary School is between > Ardilea Street and Ardoyne Avenue. > > On the 1901 Shankhill Ordnance map Ardilea Street leads to the back entrance of the large > flax spinning mill, Prospect Mills, immediately next to the Highfield Weaving Factory, > both of which fronted onto Flax Street, itself leading off the Crumlin Road. At that > junction was Brookfield Flax Spinning Mill and the much larger Crumlin Road Flax > Spinning Mill. There were also two reservoirs on the corner. At the other side of Crumlin > Road was the Edenberry Flax Spinning Mill. On the other side of Flax Street was the > Rosebank Weaving Factory. > > The sites of these mills are now occupied by the Hillview Enterprise Park, Ewarts > Industrial Estate, Edenberry Industrial Estate and Brookfield Mill Industrial Estate. They > were big mills! > > Hope this helps. What about the Belfast 4 and 10 birth registrations? > > Chris Morgan > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 >

hi Audrey I have had a quick look on the CD In Antrim there are roughly 21 Mc Millens in Antrim - maily in Shankill parish. Then there are about 20 in county Down. The CD covers years 1848 -1864 and has two Robert Mc Millen one in Antrim in the parish of Carnmoney and one in Down in the parish of Knockbreda. Hope its been of assistance. Lesley -----Original Message----- From: audrey mcmillen <audrey_mcmil[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, September 07, 2001 1:35 PM Subject: Griffiths Evaluations on CD >Would it be possible to do a look up on your CD for the surname McMillen. I >have no idea how to begin looking but understand I need to know which >townland to look in. I have a Robert McMillen born about 1806 somewhere in >Antrim. Possibly in Belfast. He left for the U.S. sometime after his >marriage to Sarah Abernathy about 1825. >If this CD would be able to tell me where there is a large concentration of >McMillens that would be of help get me started. >Any help greatly appreciated. > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

>Only one I haven't found is Silverstream (Rd?). That one is still there, up the Crumlin Road, past the bend where Ligoniel Road goes off to the west. Turn right onto Bilston Road then immediately left, and you're there. It's roughly parallel with Ballysillan Road, and can be accessed from that side also. Our Lady of Mercy Secondary School is on Silverstream Road. All the other Silverstream streets are in the same area of Ballysillan - Silverstream Avenue, Crescent, Park, Drive, Parade, and Gardens. Take your pick! Chris Morgan

Are the LAVERTY's connected to the TULLY's? Thanks Tina Marie [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 5:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Laverty from Antrim Obituary from the Brooklyn Standard Union October 10, 1922 Patrick LAVERTY, died yesterday at his home 178 India street. He was born in County Antrim, Ireland, Seventy-two years ago and has been a resident of Brooklyn for Forty-nine years. Employeed as a tugboat captain by the Standard Oil Company of New York. He is survived by his widow, Catherine; Five daughters, Mrs. Mary ARMSTRONG, Mrs Elizabeth KENNISON, Mrs. Isabelle LAVERTY, Mrs. Catherine COOKER and Mrs Margaret McCARTHY, and three sons, James, Patrick and John LAVERTY. The funeral will be held at 9 A.M. tomorrow with a requiem mass at the R.C. Church of St. Alphonadus. Interment will be at Calvery Cemetery under direction of J. E. McGuckin 139 Nobie street. ============================== Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp Search over 2500 databases with one easy query!

Would it be possible to do a look up on your CD for the surname McMillen. I have no idea how to begin looking but understand I need to know which townland to look in. I have a Robert McMillen born about 1806 somewhere in Antrim. Possibly in Belfast. He left for the U.S. sometime after his marriage to Sarah Abernathy about 1825. If this CD would be able to tell me where there is a large concentration of McMillens that would be of help get me started. Any help greatly appreciated. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

Roismaire: Does the Griffiths CD cover the time period of 1700-1760? Where can the CD be purchased? I am searching for Samuel's, surname DUFF. Any Samuel DUFF could be helpful in that time period. Thanks. Bonnie

Hi, Does anyone know where you can purchase microfiche of parts of Griffiths Valuation? Or does anyone have the relevant details of Carrickfergus areas? Lesley

Hi David If you go to www.belfast.net/mo/map.htm and click on the 3 mg map this shows Ardilea St, which runs off the Oldpark Road. As far as I know it is still there and inhabited. Can you decipher the addresses on the other two certificates for Urban 4 and 10 ? Barbara -----Original Message----- From: David Bishop <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: 06 September 2001 06:25 Subject: 1901 census- street name : ARDILEA ST. >Hi all >I am re-posting the message below: > >"I have some birth certificates with the districts listed as Belfast Urban 4, Urban 10 and Urban 11. I'm trying to find out where these districts are in Belfast so that I can do a search on the 1901 census." The Urban 11 certificate has the street name Ardilea St for the year 1895. Would anybody know where this is? > >Any help appreciated. Also, are there any good websites with street maps of Belfast? > >Regards >David > > >============================== >Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > >

In a message dated 9/6/2001 2:07:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > > > Does anyone know where you can purchase microfiche of parts > of Griffiths Valuation? > Or does anyone have the relevant details of Carrickfergus areas? > > Lesley > > I have Griffiths on CD rom but I don't think it gives much detail about the land itself. It's indexed by name and gives the townland

Roismaire, Do you have direct interest in Laverty family. My greatgrandmother was Mary Laverty from Culfeightrin Parish in Co. Antrim. Thanks for posting the info. I have a cousin who is quite interested in NY Lavertys ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 05 September 2001 23:04 Subject: Laverty from Antrim

Hi all I am re-posting the message below: "I have some birth certificates with the districts listed as Belfast Urban 4, Urban 10 and Urban 11. I'm trying to find out where these districts are in Belfast so that I can do a search on the 1901 census." The Urban 11 certificate has the street name Ardilea St for the year 1895. Would anybody know where this is? Any help appreciated. Also, are there any good websites with street maps of Belfast? Regards David

Thanks Chris I will repost my message with a street name and see what happens! Regards David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Morgan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 10:31 PM Subject: Re: 1901 Census > > > I have some birth certificates with the districts listed as Belfast Urban 4, Urban 10 and Urban > 11. I'm trying to find out where these districts are in Belfast so that I can do a search on the > 1901 census. > > > > Can anybody help? > > As you have the relevant streets would it not be easier to list them for us? PRONI in > Belfast has an index to the streets. Perhaps somebody who has access might be able to help > with which film you'll be likely to need. > > However, searching is not a simple task, even with that information, so if SKS is willing to > do it once there's probably a lot of us who would jump at the offer. So any help may best > be kept private! > > Wouldn't it be nice if PRONI could at least load that index onto their website? Then we > might all be able to use the LDS films more easily. Assuming, of course, that the PRONI > index ties in with the LDS references, which somebody is probably about to tell us it doesn't!! > > Chris Morgan > > > > > > > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp >

> "I have some birth certificates with the districts listed as Belfast Urban 4, Urban 10 and >Urban 11. I'm trying to find out where these districts are in Belfast so that I can do a >search on the 1901 census." The Urban 11 certificate has the street name Ardilea St for >the year 1895. Would anybody know where this is? > > Any help appreciated. Also, are there any good websites with street maps of Belfast? > > Regards > David Don't know of any websites with detailed good maps of Belfast, but if you want to trace the old streets you may wish to look at the excellent reproductions of Old Ordnance Survey Maps published by Alan Godfrey. All of the developed areas of Belfast are covered at the original scale of 1:2500 for the period 1902-1930 (varies according to sheet). Website is at http://www.alangodfreymaps.co.uk/ Excellent value, see below. However, Ardilea Street still appears in the Index of Streets on my 1998 map, postal area BT14, in square F6. It is a cul-de-sac, just to the south of Old Park Road, taking off to the city side of it's junction with Old Park Avenue. St Gemma's Secondary School is between Ardilea Street and Ardoyne Avenue. On the 1901 Shankhill Ordnance map Ardilea Street leads to the back entrance of the large flax spinning mill, Prospect Mills, immediately next to the Highfield Weaving Factory, both of which fronted onto Flax Street, itself leading off the Crumlin Road. At that junction was Brookfield Flax Spinning Mill and the much larger Crumlin Road Flax Spinning Mill. There were also two reservoirs on the corner. At the other side of Crumlin Road was the Edenberry Flax Spinning Mill. On the other side of Flax Street was the Rosebank Weaving Factory. The sites of these mills are now occupied by the Hillview Enterprise Park, Ewarts Industrial Estate, Edenberry Industrial Estate and Brookfield Mill Industrial Estate. They were big mills! Hope this helps. What about the Belfast 4 and 10 birth registrations? Chris Morgan

Hi All I have some birth certificates with the districts listed as Belfast Urban 4, Urban 10 and Urban 11. I'm trying to find out where these districts are in Belfast so that I can do a search on the 1901 census. Can anybody help?

Obituary from the Brooklyn Standard Union October 10, 1922 Patrick LAVERTY, died yesterday at his home 178 India street. He was born in County Antrim, Ireland, Seventy-two years ago and has been a resident of Brooklyn for Forty-nine years. Employeed as a tugboat captain by the Standard Oil Company of New York. He is survived by his widow, Catherine; Five daughters, Mrs. Mary ARMSTRONG, Mrs Elizabeth KENNISON, Mrs. Isabelle LAVERTY, Mrs. Catherine COOKER and Mrs Margaret McCARTHY, and three sons, James, Patrick and John LAVERTY. The funeral will be held at 9 A.M. tomorrow with a requiem mass at the R.C. Church of St. Alphonadus. Interment will be at Calvery Cemetery under direction of J. E. McGuckin 139 Nobie street.

> I have some birth certificates with the districts listed as Belfast Urban 4, Urban 10 and Urban 11. I'm trying to find out where these districts are in Belfast so that I can do a search on the 1901 census. > > Can anybody help? As you have the relevant streets would it not be easier to list them for us? PRONI in Belfast has an index to the streets. Perhaps somebody who has access might be able to help with which film you'll be likely to need. However, searching is not a simple task, even with that information, so if SKS is willing to do it once there's probably a lot of us who would jump at the offer. So any help may best be kept private! Wouldn't it be nice if PRONI could at least load that index onto their website? Then we might all be able to use the LDS films more easily. Assuming, of course, that the PRONI index ties in with the LDS references, which somebody is probably about to tell us it doesn't!! Chris Morgan

Hi Wayne To be honest I'm not sure if I have contacted you before. Appologises if I have, but I'm looking for information on Isabella McBride father Joseph a hosier of Belfast, Isabella married George Best 29th Jan 1859. Regards Toni ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne McBride" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 12:09 PM Subject: GALWAY > Found in the Milltown Cemetery near Belfast. > "GALWAY: Erected by John Galway in memory of his beloved daughter Ann McConaghey > who departed this life 15th April 1870 aged 22 years." > I cannot find the death certificate for this woman under McConaghey or Galway. > Can anyone give any advice or know of parish or other records which may help > fill out my Galway ancestors? > > > Wayne McBride, > Sydney, NSW, Australia. > email: [email protected] > > Researching: > MCBRIDE(Scot.Ire.Eng.NZ) > KIRK (Ire. Scot.) > BOHANNON (Eng.NZ) > BASHFORD (Eng.) > CLARKE (Eng.NZ) > HIRCOCK (Eng) > GRAHAM (Scot.Australia NZ) > HACKETT (Ire.NZ) > O'BRIEN (Ire.NZ) > GALWAY (Ire.Eng) > COWARD (Eng) > TUGWOOD (NZ) > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library >

Found in the Milltown Cemetery near Belfast. "GALWAY: Erected by John Galway in memory of his beloved daughter Ann McConaghey who departed this life 15th April 1870 aged 22 years." I cannot find the death certificate for this woman under McConaghey or Galway. Can anyone give any advice or know of parish or other records which may help fill out my Galway ancestors? Wayne McBride, Sydney, NSW, Australia. email: [email protected] Researching: MCBRIDE(Scot.Ire.Eng.NZ) KIRK (Ire. Scot.) BOHANNON (Eng.NZ) BASHFORD (Eng.) CLARKE (Eng.NZ) HIRCOCK (Eng) GRAHAM (Scot.Australia NZ) HACKETT (Ire.NZ) O'BRIEN (Ire.NZ) GALWAY (Ire.Eng) COWARD (Eng) TUGWOOD (NZ)

Hello there, I hope that you can solve the problem of sending out this information. I am a descendant of William Wallace and I would be very interested to read the information that you have. Thank you very much for your kind offer. Chris Dunlop ----- Original Message ----- From: "ron @ carol" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, 31 August 2001 4:08 AM Thanks to my cousin Hazel L. i am able to post a history of the Wallace family that gave us Sir. William, Braveheart, Wallace. there will be a number of mailings totaling about 40 pages. If you are a descendent of Mary A. Wallace and James Prentice i would like to hear from you, as well as any other Wallace decedents. I can also fill in the great gap in this descendent list. If you lose page 6, which is the key to keep family members in correct order you will get lost very quickly, as i did even with the key. The documents are number as p1 p2 etc. those represent the page numbers. I tried to send multiple pages but apparently i exceeded the maximum size so i will send them separately. ============================== Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate your heritage! http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog