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    1. O'Neill, Ritchie, Kidd, Montgomery.
    2. My grandmother was Sarah Ritchie, born about 1841 in County Antrim. She married my grandfather, William O'Neill, in 1861. They were married by the Rev. Samuel Hamilton of the Buckna Presbyterian Church. Both the O'Neill and the Ritchie families lived in the townland of Tecloy which is located off the Broughshane - Carnlough line. My great-grandparents were John and Sarah Ritchie. My grandmother had four siblings that I know of: James, born about 1818, Archibald, born about 1830, Rosetta, born about 1835 and Jane. James married Agnes Kidd. Archibald immigrated to the United States, settled in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, married and lived out his life there. Rosetta married Robert Kidd. Jane married Robert Montgomery. I would like to correspond with anyone who has any knowledge of any of these families. Bill O'Neil, Coraopolis, Pennsylvania, USA.

    03/27/2002 01:17:39
    1. PLEASE CAN SOMEONE HELP
    2. Hello , hope someone can help as can"t find what part of Ireland my family line is from- NEIL/CORNELIUS DOUGALL m-SARAH/SALLY/MCBRIDE date unknown. family I have found so far for them- JOHN DOUGALL b-abt 1833-Ireland. WILLIAM DOUGALL b-abt 1838-Ireland PATRICK DOUGALL b-abt1844-Ireland ELIZABETH DOUGALL b-unknown-Ireland MARGARET DOUGALLb-abt 1841-Ireland, the names I have listed as family did come to Scotland date unknown. I have taken dates of birth from census,marriages and deaths I have found for them still cannot find what part of Ireland they came from,have tried searches for either Neil or Sarah or the family in Ireland no luck.so PLEASE if these names link in anyway PLEASE GET IN TOUCH.T I A . Maureen

    03/24/2002 02:36:27
    1. Re: WITHERUP
    2. Karen Chessell
    3. I don't know anything about this name, however, I also belong to the DENMARK Rootsweb list and recently we were having some fun about some Australian place-names ending in -up. Someone suggested as a joke maybe they were Danish in origin. Of course, they're aboriginal and, as someone pointed out, Danish names end in -rup, not -up. So, who knows, Witherup may be Danish?!? Karen -----Original Message----- From: Lesley Howard <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: 19 March 2002 16:22 Subject: WITHERUP >Hi, > >I did join the listing some time ago asking about my g-g-g-grandfather William Witherup, who was born in Belfast c1817. Unfortunately with little luck - he is elusive!!! I know he married an Ann Irwine and they moved to here in Cheshire, England by 1844. >Can anyone tell me whether there is a link with the Weatherup families? Is Weatherup a variation of Witherup? Or is Weatherup a long standing name throughout generations prior to 1800s in the Co. Antrim area? >Any help appreciated. >Many thanks. >Lesley > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    03/19/2002 02:42:49
    1. WITHERUP
    2. Lesley Howard
    3. Hi, I did join the listing some time ago asking about my g-g-g-grandfather William Witherup, who was born in Belfast c1817. Unfortunately with little luck - he is elusive!!! I know he married an Ann Irwine and they moved to here in Cheshire, England by 1844. Can anyone tell me whether there is a link with the Weatherup families? Is Weatherup a variation of Witherup? Or is Weatherup a long standing name throughout generations prior to 1800s in the Co. Antrim area? Any help appreciated. Many thanks. Lesley

    03/19/2002 09:08:42
    1. Re: Millrow Presbyterian Church
    2. Karen Chessell
    3. Dear Dave - that is fantastic information - thank you so much for all your effort in typing it out for us. I need to have a good study of it. Best wishes, Karen

    03/19/2002 07:42:54
    1. Re: Millrow Presbyterian Church
    2. Chris Morgan
    3. > My 1st cousin, 3 times removed, the Rev. Thomas West, was the minister > of this church for 52 years (1867 to 1920). I have discovered, in a > collection of his family's papers passed down to me, a booklet > commemorating the 150th anniversary of the church in 1987. Within the > booklet is a history of the church. Although the history is rather > lengthy, you will find the answer to the question about the name of the > church. Many thanks for taking the time and trouble to give us all the benefit of such full information. My own ancestral research suggests a possible baptism at that church and I shall pursue that with added interest now I have so much background information to enhance the picture. Chris Morgan

    03/19/2002 04:08:18
    1. Millrow Presbyterian Church
    2. Dave West
    3. My 1st cousin, 3 times removed, the Rev. Thomas West, was the minister of this church for 52 years (1867 to 1920). I have discovered, in a collection of his family's papers passed down to me, a booklet commemorating the 150th anniversity of the church in 1987. Within the booklet is a history of the church. Although the history is rather lengthy, you will find the answer to the question about the name of the church. FIRST ANTRIM PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH 1837- 1987 The New Meeting House Following the establishment in 1726 of the new Presbyterian congregation in Antrim, the people worshipped in a simple church building in Millrow (now Riverside). The congregation grew rapidly over the years with the result that the building became too small. Attempts to extend and enlarge it were inadequate. The building, being old, needed frequent repairs, and the costs for maintenance were soaring. In 1828 the congregation took the decision to build a new church. Lord Massereene and Ferrard offered the church four acres of land in nearby Bog Park (Belmont Park) for £400. The site included a few houses along High Street (now Church Street). By selling these houses, together with some adjacent pieces of land, the cost of the site was realised , within a few years. Preparations for building the new church moved quickly. The Foundation Stone was laid on June 9th, 1834. Building work began straightaway, but took nearly three years to complete. The new Church was opened For public worship on June 18th, 1837 by Rev. A. Nesbitt of Glasgow. The only information about the construction that is available today is a reference in an old document to ”a sum of money…. paid to Mr . Molyneau, Contractor, and Mr. Dixon, Builder.” This new church building must have been very conspicuous, surrounded as it was by small, low, thatched dwellings. Perhaps this is why it was sometimes referred to as ‘The Cathedral of Antrim.’ The outside of the church, and in particular the front part, was an adaptation of a design very popular with the planners of Presbyterian churches of that time. It is described as follows in the Ordinance Survey Records of 1830- 1860: “The front entrance at the northern end is in the Egyptian style and has a handsome and massive appearance. It consists of a portico (the ascent to which is by six spacious steps}, supported by two massive white porphyry columns with capitals of the Doric order. i These support a frieze and pediment which, with the entire of this front, are stone finished.” Other details of the building from the same report are: “The new meeting house erected by Millrow congregation is a handsome, substantial and spacious structure, situated 90 yards to the south of High Street, and near the east of the town. The external dimensions are 78 feet long (from north to south), 58 feet wide (from east to west) and 29 feet high in the sidewalls. It is well lit by two rows of windows in each side and by two ornamental windows in its northern or entrance front. The windows in the upper row have circular heads, but those in the lower row have square heads: The house is well built of whin-stone, the walls are three feet thick and the roof has a trifling pitch and projects over a handsome cornice.” “Inside, the ground floor has 74 pews and the gallery has 58 pews. Together with the aisles these can provide accommodation for about 1,000 persons. The pulpit is on the southern end of the meeting house and is reached from the basement by a well constructed concealed spiral stair; underneath the southern end of the meeting house is an apartment 24 square feet intended for holding a Sunday School.” The total cost of the building was £3,000. Several methods were used to raise this sum and included: Special collections (which amounted to about £120) taken” at all sermons preached on its being opened.” (One of the special preachers was the great Rev. Dr. Henry Cooke ); the sale of tickets of admission to these special services at a cost of one shilling each; the selling (or letting) of pews (sittings) within the church; contributions solicited from church members, and from friends in neighbouring congregations. The Synod of Ulster (a forerunner of the General Assembly) granted permission for the Church to appeal to some churches in Scotland for financial help. The income from all these sources, together with the money received from the sale of the old church building, was inadequate, and two years after the opening service the deficit was in excess of £1,700. Over the next few years a series of misfortunes delayed the clearing of the debt. High unemployment, low wages, emigration on a large scale and the Potato famine of 1846-47, all had their effects. Another set-back was a disruption within the Church membership which occurred in 1850 and resulted in a number of families leaving the Church to form a new Congregation, Second Antrim Congregation ( the present High Street Congregation). Five years later Gas lighting was introduced into Antrim town and the church was connected to the Mains thereby doing away with the old system of lighting which was by locally produced ‘mould’ candles. The debt was still considerable, amounting to approximately £775. Misguidedly, and for reasons not recorded, the church authorities decided to reduce the Insurance coverage on the property from £1000 to £500, an action which cost them dearly a short time later. A fire started in the basement where on weekdays a Primary school was held. In winter this area was heated by an open turf fire which had to be smothered out in the evenings and re-lit in the mornings. On the evening of Friday, January, l0th 1862 the fire was not completely extinguished. Some live embers are thought to have rolled on to the floor, and, fanned by a strong wind, set the building alight. The choir and pulpit areas were severely damaged. Repairing the damage took 19 months, and the building was re-opened for worship in November of the same year. While repair work was in progress the opportunity was taken to construct the Classroom. In the original plan of the church the centre gallery extended back to the entrance or gable wall. By building up the back wall of the downstairs part of the church to ceiling height the rear portion of the gallery was cut off, thus forming an excellent room for the Bible Class and other group meetings. On April 6th, 1860 the name of the congregation was changed in the official records from “The Congregation of Millrow Presbyterian Church” to its present title of “The Congregation of First Antrim Presbyterian Church.” The church deficit continued to mount, and when their new minister, Rev. Thomas West was ordained on 20th November, 1867 he was faced with the daunting task of clearing off the debt. It was said that, “some deserted the Church in its difficulties, not enduring the sacrifices. “ Mr. West had, therefore, to take steps to, “establish confidence in the solvency of the congregation’s finances.” In this he had the full support and help of Mr. Thomas H. Adams, whose example, drive and powers of persuasion so challenged the people to give that in two years’ time the debt was completely cleared. The congregation then set about raising, “£500. for repairing and redecorating the church". For two decades little or no work was done to the property as all available finances were channeled into the purchase and conversion of a house in Riverside for a Manse for Rev. West and his family. However, by the turn of the century it became obvious that the old plaster ceiling in the church was in a dangerous condition and in need of urgent attention. It was taken down completely and replaced by the beautiful ceiling which still adorns the sanctuary. The cost involved was £254. Other work carried out at the same time included, “putting new ceilings in the lobbies and entrances to the galleries, mending the roof of the church, renovating windows, and re- decorating the whole building.” The cost for all this work was £639. Organs in churches became very fashionable in the early nineteen-hundreds. First Antrim’s first organ, installed in 1907, was presented in memory of Mrs. A.G. Wilson, who has been described as being, “an ardent church worker.” This instrument was replaced 16 years later by another ‘presentation’ organ, the donor being Mr. John McAdam a member of Session who had moved from Antrim to Whitehead. In 1927-28 when Antrim town lighting changed from gas to electricity and gas was no longer available, the Church had no option but to change over as well. The cost of the necessary readjustments was £85.12.00. This change led to the installation of the third organ, the Adams Memorial Organ, presented in 1932 by Dr. J.J. Adams in memory of his father, Mr. Thomas Hugh Adams (Dr. Adams also bore the entire cost of the necessary renovations to the pulpit and choir area of the church). The windows of the church were now in need of attention. The committee decided to replace them all with leaded lights, thereby adding very considerably to the character of the building. This work was completed in 1940. No further repair schemes (apart from those necessitated by wear and tear and the ravages of dry rot) were undertaken until 1971 when the interior of the church was re-decorated. Teams of volunteers stripped the paint work off the pews in preparation for repainting. The choir area was enlarged and re-designed and the whole building was re-decorated in a pleasing range of harmonising colours. The addition of floor carpeting and seat coverings transformed the interior of the building completely. The last major work to be carried out was in 1978. The basement area was re-designed to provide a Minister’s Room (Blackstock Room) with access by a stairway to the church and pulpit, and a Conference Room (Primary Room), with adjacent kitchen and other facilities. An airy, cheerful, and comfortable place to worship, well designed and executed” is the comment of the compiler of the Ordnance Survey Report. This description is as true today as it was 150 years ago when the building was erected. It reflects great credit on those who conceived, planned and built this magnificent church and is an enduring memorial to their vision and their faith. To the congregation of today it stands as a symbol of the Endurance and Solidarity of the Christian Gospel, a message which has been, and is, faithfully proclaimed from within its walls. “I rejoiced with those who said to me, “Let us go to the house of the Lord.”, Psalm 122 : 1 (N.I. V.)

    03/18/2002 02:55:46
    1. Re: Research Index
    2. Dick Dunlap
    3. I'd like to point out a site that may be of interesr. It's" from-ireland.net,Jane" That's what you put in your search engine. Jane is now operating a free BDM program that includes the Couties of Antrim, Armagh and Down among others. If we all input our own research inthis area we may really end up with a very valuable research tool. Dick Dunlap ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Jassie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 3:44 AM Subject: Research Index > Hi everybody, > I am currently compiling an index to Irish research material that has > been transcribed and available to view on the Internet. So far, I have > included direct links to some archived mailing list and message board > posts of Counties Armagh, Antrim and Down. > If anyone has knowledge of similar material in just those 3 counties, > would you please contact me privately. > Links to all 3 indices can be found at the bottom of the page at ~ > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jassie/belfast/index.html > Regards, > Dave Jassie - [email protected] > A full list of look-up resources I have and the RootsWeb Mailing lists I > run can be found > by sending a blank e-mail to - [email protected] (Auto-reply only) > ************************************************************** > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jassie/ - THEATRE-UK Web site > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jassie/armagh/ - ARMAGH Web > site > http://www.geocities.com/yshireuk/index.html - ENG-YORKSHIRE Web site > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jassie/belfast/index.html - > BELFAST-CITY Web site > ************************************************************** > > Greetings from the historic City of Lincoln, England > > ***If you see someone in the street without a smile, give them one of > yours*** > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

    03/18/2002 02:51:22
    1. LEE, MULDOON, HEANEY, SCOTT, SHIELDS, and possibly McQUILLAN
    2. Diane E. Speake Main
    3. I am researching the above names in County Antrim. LEE, MULDOON, HEAN(E)Y, and SCOTT are all on my mother's mother's side, in Belfast. Thomas LEE and Hanna SCOTT married 31 October 1860 at St. Malachy's R. C. Church, Belfast Their son Patrick (born 08 February 1875 at Rochdale Place, Belfast, christened 13 February 1875 at St. Mary's R.C. Church, Belfast) was my great grandfather. He died around 1935, probably in the area of Glasgow, Scotland. Henry MULDOON and Mary HEANEY had a daugher, Elizabeth MULDOON. She married the above-named Patrick LEE 16 July 1898 at Sacred Heart R. C. Church, Belfast. They had six children between 1900 and 1916. They moved to Glasgow in around 1910 or so, and their youngest child was born in Scotland. All the others, including my grandmother, were born in Belfast. (see below) 1. Hannah LEE, born 07 February 1900 at 55 McCleery Street, Belfast, died after being struck down in Belfast by a horse-drawn carriage. 2. James LEE, born 07 September 1901 at 71 Vere Street, Belfast. His wife and five of his six children were killed in the Clydebank Blitz during World War II. Jimmy died in 1969 in Glasgow. 3. Elizabeth LEE, born 24 September or 03 October 1903 at 56 Grove Street, Belfast. My grandmother. Died in 1953 in Glasgow. 4. Mary LEE, born 18 February 1905 at Donegall Street, Belfast. Married Lawrence CULLEN, and lived in County Leitrim and Glasgow at different times in her life. 5. Patrick LEE, born about 1907, Belfast. Married Jean ROBERTSON and had a large family in Glasgow. 6. Hugh LEE, born November 1916 in Glasgow. Married Roseann LINN and had six children. As for SHIELDS and McQUILLAN, those are on my husband's side. Hugh McQUILLAN was born in around 1839 in Ireland. His wife, Rose Ann SHIELDS, was born around 1842 in County Antrim. I know of three children for them, all born in Scotland: 1. Jane, 11 March 1863 2. Elizabeth, 07 September 1865 3. Mary, about 1868 I don't know when and where Hugh and Rose were married, but I suspect it was before they came over to Scotland. Therefore, I speculate that they were both from Co. Antrim and likely were married there. At this time, I know nothing about Rose Ann SHIELDS' parents, but I do know that Hugh's parents were Edward McQUILLAN and Mary. I appreciate any help that anyone can offer. By the way, when I was living in Ireland for seven months, I went to Dublin to the Archives and had a look at the 1901 Census. As one has to search by address, I checked all the addresses given (above) at the births of my grandmother and her siblings (LEE family). Those people moved around a LOT. They were not to be found on any of the streets listed at their children's births, so I gave up after a long, fruitless day. Anyone with access to the 1901 who wants to try to find my family, please let me know! I can offer 1881 Census lookups for England, Scotland, Wales, Islands, and Royal Navy. I have the full CD-ROM set here at home. Cheers, Diane Main San Jose, California

    03/17/2002 11:05:02
    1. Re:ireland - Bob Wilson's response
    2. Re: "Bob Wilson, searching for ancestors and descendants of Wisemans and Dunlaps from Antrim who were born around 1810-1815 near Cullybackey". I'm not sure the location of Cullybackey, but my gggrandfather William DUNLAP,b.1806, was from Ballymoney area. He married Jane Adams in abt 1832 in Ireland. Their first son, Thomas, was born there before they emmigrated. We have a letter of character reference from a Rev. Robert Parks of the First Ballymoney Church, dated in 1833. They first lived for several years in Lenawee County, Michigan, before obtaining a land grant for a farm in Branch County, Michigan. Would appreciate hearing from anyone who is researching Dunlaps or Adams from the Ballymoney area. We know that James,the brother of Jane Adams, lived in Ballynagashal, near Ballymoney. Also, does anyone have suggestions for further research in this area? Thank you, Ann Bordeaux

    03/17/2002 07:55:48
    1. Re: immigration records SC
    2. Lee Ramsey
    3. Go to www.Googe.com and enter: " Revill, South Carolina " (do not use quotes). This will give you the sources for the documentation, which comes originally from the Journal of the South Carolina Council. Revill is the genealogist who abstracted these records. I do not have the book so I do not know if the port of embarkation is listed or not. The 139 passengers on the "Lord Dungannon" were all protestants from Ireland. Lee Ramsey ----- Original Message ----- From: "deb glenn" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 2:42 AM Subject: ireland > I am new to the Irish research and am trying to find port of departure for The Brig Lord Dungannon which left Ireland in 1767 arrived in Charleston 1768. I have ancestors Listed on passenger List John Glen born 1728, wife Rosanah daughter Jane. Deb JonesGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

    03/17/2002 02:55:44
    1. Re: ireland
    2. Bob Wilson
    3. Have you checked out the Immigrant Ships Transcriber's Guild (ISTG) Web Site? The sailing you are looking for might be listed there. I have a friend whose ancestors came to the Carolinas in about 1767 on a ship that sailed from the port of Larne, in Antrim, but that was only one of several Antrim ports where that ship you refer to might have sailed from. Bob Wilson, searching for ancestors and descendants of Wisemans and Dunlaps from Antrim who were born around 1810-1815 near Cullybackey. sn.com> wrote: I am new to the Irish research and am trying to find port of departure for The Brig Lord Dungannon which left Ireland in 1767 arrived in Charleston 1768. I have ancestors Listed on passenger List John Glen born 1728, wife Rosanah daughter Jane. Deb JonesGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 "PRO ARIS ET PRO FOCIS" --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage

    03/16/2002 09:33:46
    1. ireland
    2. deb glenn
    3. I am new to the Irish research and am trying to find port of departure for The Brig Lord Dungannon which left Ireland in 1767 arrived in Charleston 1768. I have ancestors Listed on passenger List John Glen born 1728, wife Rosanah daughter Jane. Deb JonesGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

    03/16/2002 06:42:40
    1. Re: Millrow Presbyterian Church
    2. Chris Morgan
    3. > Dear Chris - thank you very much for answering my question. I had already > found the site you suggest and not found too much, for example, I was hoping > to find an address and maybe more about its early foundation. But I will > take another look. > Again, many thanks, Karen > >> I am new to this list and would like to know if anyone can tell me about > >> Millrow Presbyterian Church - exactly where it was/is and when its > records > >> began. I am researching the name McMASTER and from the IGI I see that > some > >> McMasters were baptised, married there. > >> Many thanks, Karen I have found a reference that says records may survive from 1674, but that seems to be at odds with other data available on the internet. If you are wanting information about the actual history of the church and it's elders the Presbyterian Historical Society might be able to help - assuming the church itself is unable to do so. Their address is as follows, but they are primarily a charitable organisation, and their office is only manned on a part-time basis. Presbyterian Historical Society Room 218 Church House Fisherwick Place Belfast BT1 6DW They published a book "A history of the congregations in the Presbyterian Church in Ireland, 1610-1982" which I have seen on film from the LDS. It only has a page or two about each church, so don't expect too much. To add perspective, the 1852 Henderson's Directory of Belfast and Ulster lists only one Presbyterian Church in Antrim town, with another then building. A far as I can see from present day internet searches the oldest Presbyterian Church is now the one at 82 Church Street, about which their website says "First Antrim is the oldest Presbyterian Congregation in Antrim town, having begun in 1726. The present building was opened in 1834." (E-mail address [email protected] ) That is presumably not the one being built in 1852. Perhaps somebody in Ulster knows different? Another Presbyterian church is at Greystone Road which opened in 1969, and there is a third, but the address escapes me at present. Could it be the Millrow congregation? Mill row appears in the directory several times as the residence of surgeons and solicitors, although John H Orr*, Presbyterian Minister, was at Main Street, and Rev. Charles Morrison** was at Ashville. In 1841 the population of the parish of Antrim was given as 4,312, and of the town itself 2,645 - so not such a big place. That was from a total population of the County of Antrim in 1851 (excluding Belfast and Carrickfergus) of 250,355 (down 25,833 since 1841). "....during the disturbances of 1798 it was the principal scene of hostilities which occurred in the county (of Antrim) and here the insurgents were defeated with great slaughter." No McMaster's were listed in the 1852 Directory for Antrim town, or county. (There were only 4 listed in Belfast.) Regards Chris Morgan PS Just been rummaging in the depths of my Irish records! From the Fasti of the General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church in Ireland 1840-70, published by the Presbyterian Historical Society, 1986 I summarise: *John Henry Orr, son of Dr James Orr, Greyabbey, born 26 Nov. 1826: ordained II Antrim 19 Mar 1851, married 1853 daughter of Martin Harper of Belfast, Moderator of General Assembly 1887, died 23 Jan 1895. The original Fasti listing those ordained before 1840 was published about 1951 by the Society, and I extracted the following from a copy of a handwritten excerpt: **Charles Morrison was ordained at Antrim I, 24th March 1840, married Mary Oliphant 6th Sep 1859 and died at Ventnor, Isle of Wight 3 June 1890 and interred in Edinburgh - no doubt he was a Scot. So, he was minister at Antrim I - which must be Millrow!

    03/16/2002 04:14:24
    1. Re: McCAMBRIDGE ancestors
    2. Cherylanne Bailey
    3. Thanks Liam - I appreciate that - I'll check out the sites Kind regards CHERYLANNE ----- Original Message ----- From: "L.Martin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:50 AM Subject: Re: McCAMBRIDGE ancestors > The important variable here is the religion of Hugh, as the marriage > date you mention is prior to civil Registration (begun in 1864). You > will need to delve into Church records. > > Eull Dunlop, 69 Galgorm Road, Ballymena, BT42 1AA is a local historian > who has published photographic accounts of Ballymena. > www.amazon.co.uk lists 37 pamphlets by this and associated authors. > There may be a mention of the building of the railway there. > > Liam (from Ballymena) > > "A bird in the bush is worth two in the Cat" > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cherylanne Bailey" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 1:22 AM > Subject: McCAMBRIDGE ancestors > > > > Hi to all on the list > > > > > > You might remember I have an ancestor who originates from Co > Antrim - Hugh McCambridge. He was born abt 1815. Hugh married a Mary > O'HAGAN born bet. 1812-1813, definitely in Ballymena, Co Antrim. > > > > I have now obtained Mary's Death Certificate and counting back Hugh > McCambridge married Mary O'Hagan bet. 1839 - 1840 in Ballymena > Ireland!!!! > > > > Hugh was a Railway Ganger who was emtombed in a rock fall whilst > building the railway at Ballymena and appears to have spent his whole > adult life living in Co Antrim, dying in a rockfall between 1883 and > 1886. > > > > Can anyone help track down my Hugh or Mary???. > > > > Kind regards > > CHERYLANNE > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ______________________________

    03/16/2002 08:17:48
    1. Re: Millrow Presbyterian Church
    2. Karen Chessell
    3. Dear Chris - thank you very much for answering my question. I had already found the site you suggest and not found too much, for example, I was hoping to find an address and maybe more about its early foundation. But I will take another look. Again, many thanks, Karen -----Original Message----- From: Chris Morgan <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: 10 March 2002 20:37 Subject: Re: Millrow Presbyterian Church >> I am new to this list and would like to know if anyone can tell me about >> Millrow Presbyterian Church - exactly where it was/is and when its records >> began. I am researching the name McMASTER and from the IGI I see that some >> McMasters were baptised, married there. >> Many thanks, Karen > >If you go to the Public Record Office of Northern Island website and look for Presbyterian >Records you'll find a page with all those held at >http://proni.nics.gov.uk/records/private/presindx.htm > >Unfortunately you'll have to consult their index in Belfast for the dates held - unless SKS >will let us know. I too may have an interest in this church for a possible birth of a Mary >Jane Gray about 1828. She could also have married there about 1846 to a Robert Hegan (Hagan). > > >You will find > >Antrim (1st) (Millrow), Antrim, MIC/1P/3 (the film number) > >Chris Morgan >Sheffield > > > > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

    03/16/2002 03:27:13
    1. Re: SEYMOUR, Henry 1789-1867
    2. Lee Ramsey
    3. Mac: The Ulster Historical Foundation shows the following Seymour distribution in the North of Ireland (Ulster) as found in the Griffith Evaluation records: Antrim - 13 in 1862 Donegal - 5 in 1857 Monaghan - 4 in 1860 Armagh - 2 in 1864 Tyrone - 2 in 1860 Down - 1 in 1863 Londonderry - 1 in 1859 Collections of Griffith's Primary Evaluation are available on microfilm or microfiche. FHL has it on microfilm, ref. # 6026722. These records include landowners, landlords, tenants with leases and renters, and can identify where they resided. These records are past your 1850's immigration date, but gives you an idea of the surname concentration within the North of Ireland, and possible relatives left behind. In the south of Ireland, ancestry.com shows marriage records for seveal Henry Seymours: Henry Seymour m. Mary Perry, 1774, Diocese of Cork & Ross, Co. Cork. Henry Seymour m. Jane Towgood, 1788, Diocese of Cork & Ross, Co. Cork. Henry Seymour m. Anne H. Gillman, 1814, Diocese of Cork & Ross, Co. Cork. William Henry Seymour m. Ellen Kingston, 1830, Diocese of Cork & Ross, Co. Cork. Lee Ramsey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mac" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 8:32 PM Subject: SEYMOUR, Henry 1789-1867 > Dear List, We are looking for the needle in the > haystack. We posted this to a couple of other NI > lists as well. > > We have a Henry SEYMOUR and his wife Sarah (possibly > children: William, Joseph, Sarah, Elizabeth, and Henry > Jr.) who came from Ireland to Canada about the 1850s. > > We don't know where in Ireland except that several > traditions place them in Northern Ireland. Antrim > seems to be the place that surfaces most often as a > possible location but it is not the only one. Henry SR > may have worked with horses for a livelyhood. > > The surnames of McCOY, GIBSON, and SOLAN may be linked > as well. > > Does any kind soul have any idea what we can do to > track this family down in Ireland? > > ===== > RESEARCHING: > southern Ontario: Clarkson, Seymour, Sinclair. > Shetlands: Halcrow, Leask, Ross, Smith, Sinclair. > England (Lanca, WR Yorks): Billington, Clarkson. > England (Mddlsx, Herts): Ambridge, Hall. > England (Surrey) Boxall. > Ireland: Gibson/Gipson, McKoy, Seymour > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage > http://sports.yahoo.com/ > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

    03/15/2002 03:37:32
    1. Re: military records
    2. Lee Ramsey
    3. Debbie: British military records are at the PRO at Kew, (Public Record Office, Kew, Surrey, England). The PRO classifies military records under the War Office (WO). The FHL (Family History Library-LDS Church) holdings are classified by the WO number and the FHL microfilm number. Most records are arranged and accessible by the regiment or organization. [Source: Ireland A Genealogical Guide by Betit & Radford]. Lee Ramsey ----- Original Message ----- From: "debbie tibando" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 12:28 PM Subject: military records > Hello I am new to this list and am trying to determine where I could get a copy of an army record from 1887 I live in Toronto Canada any help would be greatly apppreciated > > Walter COE b abt 1865 was married in Belfast in March 3, 1887 it states his occupation as Private 2 Royal Highlanders where would I get his military records??? > > Debbie > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

    03/15/2002 02:01:11
    1. SEYMOUR, Henry 1789-1867
    2. Mac
    3. Dear List, We are looking for the needle in the haystack. We posted this to a couple of other NI lists as well. We have a Henry SEYMOUR and his wife Sarah (possibly children: William, Joseph, Sarah, Elizabeth, and Henry Jr.) who came from Ireland to Canada about the 1850s. We don't know where in Ireland except that several traditions place them in Northern Ireland. Antrim seems to be the place that surfaces most often as a possible location but it is not the only one. Henry SR may have worked with horses for a livelyhood. The surnames of McCOY, GIBSON, and SOLAN may be linked as well. Does any kind soul have any idea what we can do to track this family down in Ireland? ===== RESEARCHING: southern Ontario: Clarkson, Seymour, Sinclair. Shetlands: Halcrow, Leask, Ross, Smith, Sinclair. England (Lanca, WR Yorks): Billington, Clarkson. England (Mddlsx, Herts): Ambridge, Hall. England (Surrey) Boxall. Ireland: Gibson/Gipson, McKoy, Seymour __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/

    03/15/2002 10:32:25
    1. military records
    2. debbie tibando
    3. Hello I am new to this list and am trying to determine where I could get a copy of an army record from 1887 I live in Toronto Canada any help would be greatly apppreciated Walter COE b abt 1865 was married in Belfast in March 3, 1887 it states his occupation as Private 2 Royal Highlanders where would I get his military records??? Debbie

    03/15/2002 05:28:10