Thanks Bill for your encouragement. It is a long hard road but I will keep on. What name are you researching? Mary >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: McCambridges of Antrim. >Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 13:09:41 EDT > >In a message dated 4/14/2002 5:37:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, >[email protected] writes: > > > > Hello everyone. > > > > Can someone please advise me of where I can find information on births >in > > Cloughs (Cloghs) Antrim around the early 1800s. > > > > Mary > > > >My mother was born near Cloughmills. Her grandfather's family was in a >part >of the 1851 census that has survived. He was 53 years old and was born in >Antrim. My grandfather was 9. I have been searching for earlier records >for >years without success. I have lots of records from Clough Church but the >earliest begin in the 1860s. I have found earlier references to the family >name but have had no luck in making a connection. > >I wish you success. That would give added hope to many of us. > >Bill O'Neil > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > Always remember - tomorrow is the first day of the rest of your life. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

Thanks Bill for your encouragement. It is a long hard road but I will keep on. What name are you researching? Mary >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: McCambridges of Antrim. >Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 13:09:41 EDT > >In a message dated 4/14/2002 5:37:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, >[email protected] writes: > > > > Hello everyone. > > > > Can someone please advise me of where I can find information on births >in > > Cloughs (Cloghs) Antrim around the early 1800s. > > > > Mary > > > >My mother was born near Cloughmills. Her grandfather's family was in a >part >of the 1851 census that has survived. He was 53 years old and was born in >Antrim. My grandfather was 9. I have been searching for earlier records >for >years without success. I have lots of records from Clough Church but the >earliest begin in the 1860s. I have found earlier references to the family >name but have had no luck in making a connection. > >I wish you success. That would give added hope to many of us. > >Bill O'Neil > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > Always remember - tomorrow is the first day of the rest of your life. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

In a message dated 4/14/2002 1:28:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Thanks Bill for your encouragement. It is a long hard road but I will > keep on. What name are you researching? > > Mary > Frew. In the 1851 census it was Threw. I have been to Ireland 9 times, beginning in 1960. I was fortunate to be able to meet two of my mother's sisters and a brother. Mother was the ninth of thirteen. I have dozens of living cousins, many of them still in the Cloughmills area. Bill.

In a message dated 4/14/2002 5:37:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > Hello everyone. > > Can someone please advise me of where I can find information on births in > Cloughs (Cloghs) Antrim around the early 1800s. > > Mary > My mother was born near Cloughmills. Her grandfather's family was in a part of the 1851 census that has survived. He was 53 years old and was born in Antrim. My grandfather was 9. I have been searching for earlier records for years without success. I have lots of records from Clough Church but the earliest begin in the 1860s. I have found earlier references to the family name but have had no luck in making a connection. I wish you success. That would give added hope to many of us. Bill O'Neil

Hello everyone. Can someone please advise me of where I can find information on births in Cloughs (Cloghs) Antrim around the early 1800s. Mary Always remember - tomorrow is the first day of the rest of your life. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

Hello, I have been looking for any information on Jacob STEWART (bc1805) in County Antrim without success. I do know he came from a large family of Stewart's who were jockeys so would like to know where in County Antrim there would be race tracks/stables in c1830+. I assume this subject might be covered in a book on County Antrim and I would appreciate it if someone could please head me in the right direction. Jacob Stewart's wife was Margaret GAMBLE, born c1805, County Tyrone and their children were Robert, ElizaJane, Martha, Margaret Ann bc1834-1840 in County Antrim, Thomas was born after they emigrated to Canada in 1840. Jacob Stewart was a C of I adherent. Any suggestions in this regard will certainly be appreciated. TIA Alice Cochrane

Hi the surname of "marks" is in the town of Westport. I do not know any of their back ground but if you think that you would like to contact one of them I could give you a name an mailing address. Hope this may help you.. Cheryl Adrain Westport,Ontario. email at [email protected] --- [email protected] wrote: > ATTACHMENT part 1 message/rfc822 > > NIR-ANTRIM-D Digest Volume 02 : Issue 54 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Re: NIR-ANTRIM-D Digest V02 #53 [Joyce > <[email protected]>] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from NIR-ANTRIM-D, send a message to > > [email protected] > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, > but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, > too. > > To contact the NIR-ANTRIM-D list administrator, send > mail to > [email protected] > > ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 > Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 12:57:40 -0600 > From: Joyce <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: NIR-ANTRIM-D Digest V02 #53 > > Jane: Once again I thank you for sharing with us > who live across the waters > in Canada! I am finding that I am getting > a broader scope on what is and what isn't available > to people doing their > Irish Genealogy. Job well done!! > I have been searching for my MARK people who came to > Canada in 1832 but have > been running up against a brick > wall with them. I have a transport document.....but > of course, My Relative > is the only one who has not got the ----- > arriving from ::::: filled in! I have heard that > the Mark family came > from Antrim County but have not been able to > nail this down. I am wondering what documentation I > should be searching for > within Ireland that can open a couple > of doors for me. > Any advice or direction would be greatly > appreciated!! > Thank you Jane. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/

I am seeking information on the following people from County Antrim. Anybody recognize the families? Thanks!! Moffit/Moffitt William (born about 1824) - from Glenhugh, Parish of Ahoghill - left for US 1844 Moffit/Moffitt Eleanor (born about 1826) - sister of William (I think) - left for US 1844 Leech/Leitch Ann Jane (born about 1824) - from Gracehill, Parish of Ahoghill - left for US 1846 These folks settled first in Kensington, Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania. William and Ann Jane married in 1846 in Kensington and lived with a David Moffit and his family - all were weavers - and moved to Illinois around 1855-1860. William and Ann had several children - including a John L Moffit born in Kensington 1848. Eleanor Moffitt disappeared after arriving in Philadelphia with William in 1844. --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax

Have you seen this recent decision from the Irish Government re. access to civil registrations. http://world.std.com/~ahern/CIGOrept.htm. Dolly

My Dunlop family come from around that area. I have checked what I have but unfortunately your family members are not in my database. I have a lot of other Dunlop information from Northern Ireland (not in my database because they are not connected to my family line) that I have collected over the years from various sources. I am contemplating putting them on the Dunlop rootsweb mailing list so that the information becomes permanently available in the rootsweb database. Because it is a lot of bits and pieces from a variety of sources it is not connected so it is not really suitable for putting on a website. I have so much stuff that it will be a long term project. However you might like to check the Dunlop rootsweb data base from time to time to see if anything I have posted relates to your family. Good luck with your research. Christopher Dunlop. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, 18 March 2002 5:55 AM Subject: Re:ireland - Bob Wilson's response Also, does anyone have suggestions for further research in this area? Thank you, Ann Bordeaux

Hi Diane and James James is right in his guess abut the location of Abbeydale. The map just about shows Leopold Street (opp. Flax Street). This is at 344 Crumlin Road. Then, going up the Crumlin Road towards Ligoneill, (in 1972) there's Columbia St, Rosebank St, Disraeli St, Palmer St, Bray St, Chief St, Woodvale Road, Mountainview Park, Mountainview Place, Ingledale Park, Somerdale Park, and at 626 Crumlin Road, Abbeydale Park. Ligoneill Road is at 888 Crumlin Road. I worked with someone who lived in Abbeydale and visited them once. From memory, there is a mixture of bungalows and houses and they looked as though they were built around the early 50s - a lot of post-war building in Belfast. Barbara -----Original Message----- From: JAMES MULLAN <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: 06 April 2002 14:45 Subject: Abbeydale Park and Crumlin >Dianne , >I'm not sure if you mean the intersection of these two streets. The Crumlin >Road is a long main road running all the way from Carlisle Circus through >Ardoyne and on, to become the Legoniel Road. You can see it on the map at >www.belfast.net/mo/belfast.JPG and where it continues to the beginning of >Ardoyne at Flax St. I have checked the maps I have and can't find Abbeydale >Park. > >By the way the map at this site is an old one produced before the west link >roadway was built . (Its line is shown just south of Carlisle Circus.) So >some of the streets shown do not exist e.g. Ardilea St and Highfield >Factory, Pound St., Hastings St. So if Abbeydale St. is a new street >intersecting the Crumlin Road the only place I can think it would be is past >Ardoyne towards the Legoniel Rd. If it's an old street, it doesn't seems to >exist in 1920. > >James >-------------------------------------------------------------- >Original Message > >I also would like to know the whereabouts of Abbeydale Park and Crumlin >Road, Belfast, if it is not too much trouble. > >Dianne in Australia > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

> How many streets west of the Crumlin road is it? One? Is it in the area that > had two or three streets behind the row of houses right on the Crumlin road, > and in the 60's still had the open fields down to the river? Or is it a new > development going further west of these streets, and on right over the river > and the open fields that used to exist there? Yes, one, immediately next to Crumlin Road. Abbey Dale Crescent is the only other street between it and the Forth River. The Glencairn development is more modern on the western bank, and quite separate from it, accessed from Forthriver Road and Glencairn Road. Chris Morgan

> I have searched my 1901 Belfast street directory as well as my 1852 > directory. I am sorry but there is not an Abbeydale Park listed in either of > them. > > However, in the 1852 directory there is an Abbey Street, Peter’s Hill. In the > 1901 directory there are several Abbey streets listed. All the same street > but it runs into different wards. Abbey Dale Park runs between Abbey Dale Crescent and Abbey Dale Drive, and is to the south-west side of Crumlin Road, running parallel with it for about 250 metres. It is not shown on the 1901 map, the area then being open fields, immediately opposite Ballysillan Presbyterian Church, and running down to the Forth River. Chris Morgan

Chris, How many streets west of the Crumlin road is it? One? Is it in the area that had two or three streets behind the row of houses right on the Crumlin road, and in the 60's still had the open fields down to the river? Or is it a new development going further west of these streets, and on right over the river and the open fields that used to exist there? James ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Morgan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 3:18 PM Subject: Re: Abbeydale Park > Abbey Dale Park runs between Abbey Dale Crescent and Abbey Dale Drive, and > is to the south-west side of Crumlin Road, running parallel with it for about 250 > metres. It is not shown on the 1901 map, the area then being open fields, immediately opposite > Ballysillan Presbyterian Church, and running down to the Forth River. > > Chris Morgan > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Dianne, I have searched my 1901 Belfast street directory as well as my 1852 directory. I am sorry but there is not an Abbeydale Park listed in either of them. However, in the 1852 directory there is an Abbey Street, Peter’s Hill. In the 1901 directory there are several Abbey streets listed. All the same street but it runs into different wards. Jean McCarthy nee Moore

Dianne , I'm not sure if you mean the intersection of these two streets. The Crumlin Road is a long main road running all the way from Carlisle Circus through Ardoyne and on, to become the Legoniel Road. You can see it on the map at www.belfast.net/mo/belfast.JPG and where it continues to the beginning of Ardoyne at Flax St. I have checked the maps I have and can't find Abbeydale Park. By the way the map at this site is an old one produced before the west link roadway was built . (Its line is shown just south of Carlisle Circus.) So some of the streets shown do not exist e.g. Ardilea St and Highfield Factory, Pound St., Hastings St. So if Abbeydale St. is a new street intersecting the Crumlin Road the only place I can think it would be is past Ardoyne towards the Legoniel Rd. If it's an old street, it doesn't seems to exist in 1920. James -------------------------------------------------------------- Original Message I also would like to know the whereabouts of Abbeydale Park and Crumlin Road, Belfast, if it is not too much trouble. Dianne in Australia

I have just loaded a few Antrim will abstracts to my Antrim page. For the most part, it's only will abstracts that anyone can obtain before 1904 - though, there are a lot of deeds and wills remaining that had been lodged with the Registry office. Wills - people wrote a will even if they only had £5 at times - there's many of those - but it's in reading the abstracts that you can find all kinds of other bits of information - the illusive place name, the illusive variation on the spelling of a name. People mention their relations who live in other counties in wills and they mention servants at times. Abstracts can be interesting........sometimes they aren't lodged or probated until 20 years after the persons death, sometimes you can find a whole load of them covering a large time frame all being dealt with by the executors of one person's will.............in one year............evven when it's only a few words, if you're lucky and this happens you can tie in a few families together. http://www.from-ireland.net/contents/antrimcont.htm A search engine has also been added to the site - there's a link to it at the top of the Antrim page. All surnames, names and placenames on the From Ireland web site are as they were spelled in whatever document and these can all have variations - the names I mean, using a search engine for a particular spelling will throw up pages that the word is spelled that way on but not those with any variations. Jane

Many of these Belfast Directories are available on microfilm at your nearest Mormon Family History Center. They don't have off of them on film, and you may have to wait after you order a copy, but they can prove very helpful. Andy Airriess Utah, USA

Can any kind person tell me where one can purchase a Directory of Belfast 1860's on. Thanks Kathleen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Morgan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 2:14 PM Subject: Re: Tryone St ? > > James, I noticed your kind reply to the NIR-ANTRIM post regarding information > > about the location of Tyrone St in Belfast. Perhaps you could also help me > > locate the whereabouts of some ancestors who lived, according to a letter > > they wrote in 1867, at Abbotsford Place, 243 York St, Belfast. According to > > their gravestone, when they died in 1891, they had lived at Cherrymount, > > Belfast. I've looked at a contemporary map of Belfast but couldn't quite > > figure out where these addresses were. Thanks for any help. ~ Colleen in St > > Paul, Minnesota, USA > > Working from the 1852 Directory, Abbotsford Place comes after 141 York Street. > > 139 was Mrs Eagleson, 141 John Wm. M'Cracken, notary public, (his business address > was 25 Corporation Street), then there were two new houses building, then a new shop > building, then Fleet Street, then Abbotsford Place and then Ship Street. Soon after that it > became York Road - and still was on the 1920 map, and today. By 1920 Abbotsford Place > was invisible, although Fleet Street and Ship Street were still there. I'd suspect you are > actually looking for 143, not 243, York Street, which would have been one of the houses > being built in 1852. > > Nos. 141-153 are listed in the Central Belfast Historical Gazetteer as being of early 19th > Century construction, still surviving in 1959. If anything has survived it will be opposite > the Yorkgate Shopping Centre, with railway and motorway immediately to the east and > almost parallel to York Street. > > Chris Morgan > Sheffield > > ______________________________

I also would like to know the whereabouts of Abbeydale Park and Crumlin Road, Belfast, if it is not too much trouble. Dianne in Australia ---------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Tryone St ? > Date: Thursday, 4 April 2002 23:57 > > James, I noticed your kind reply to the NIR-ANTRIM post regarding information > about the location of Tyrone St in Belfast. Perhaps you could also help me > locate the whereabouts of some ancestors who lived, according to a letter > they wrote in 1867, at Abbotsford Place, 243 York St, Belfast. According to > their gravetone, when they died in 1891, they had lived at Cherrymount, > Belfast. I've looked at a contemporary map of Belfast but couldn't quite > figure out where these addresses were. Thanks for any help. ~ Colleen in St > Paul, Minnesota, USA > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237