This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: hinze opperman Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZVC.2ACE/983.1048.1050.1.1.1.3 Message Board Post: Debbie if you write to State of Illinois for Minnie's death certificate that might shed some light on your Obermans. When I get a chance I'll pay a visit to Memorial Cemetery in Skokie and take a look at the Hinze graves and records. Nan I posted the certificate of her death separately.