This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: LANGEMANN, MACRANDER, RUPPEL, MARCRANDER, KOCH, SCHULER, LORENTZ, WISCH, LORISECA Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZVC.2ACE/258.703.895.1 Message Board Post: Rudy; Noticed your search for LANGEMANN. My earliest MACRANDER ancestor was Arnoldt LANGEMANN, b. 1566, son of Gercke LANGEMANN of Helsen, a village in the NW section of Bad Arolsen, kriese Waldeck, Hessen. Arnoldt or Arnold LANGEMANN attended Wittenburg U. and is mentioned as matriculating in 1587, attending from Waldeckisher Westval (in Latin). I am told by a present day resident of Waldeck, that the locals consider themselves historically as Westfalens since their border meets present day Nordrhine Wesfalia, a region where the ancient Franconian tribes adjoined each other. LANGEMANN, having studied Latin and Greek translated his name as Macro + anther to come up with MACRANDER. He was a secretary to the Bishop of Osnabrueck, Graf (Count) von Waldeck-Eisenberg until 1590 when the Bishop died. LANGEMANN (MACRANDER) came back to Corbach as an advisor to the Court, then was a school rector in Mengeringhausen, followed by counciler to the widow of Graf von Waldeck-Wildungen, ! after which he was an attorney/lawyer about 1599. There is an additional mystery in the fact that a Judge (Rechter) is located in Westfalen in Hamm and Rhynern on the Lippe River. In 1603, he interrogates a woman accused of witchcraft in the nearby community of Heessen. This appeared in an article on the use of a water test as a means of examination. The Arnoldt LANGEMANN (MACRANDER) ancestor married first, Margarethe NICOLAI, died 1594 of plaque in Wildungen, Waldeck, leaving one son, Josias MACRANDER. She was the youngest sister of Pfarrer (Pastor) Phillip NICOLAI of Mengeringhausen, who died 1608 in Hamburg. ( A notable chorale lyrics writer). Arnoldt LANGEMANN (MACRANDER) next married Regine (name uncertain but some researchers have suggested SCHNEEKAMPF) which is not too different then your SCHNEEHAGE. This marriage produced a second son, Johannes MACRANDER, my direct ancestor, later of Wetzlar am Lahn; and a daughter Elisabethe MACRANDER, who married a RUPPLE, who was the son of Pfarrer Heinrich RUPPEL of Wildungen. The two MACRANDER sons, Josias and Johannes attended U. of Giessen and a Johannes Jacob RUPPLE from Wildungen, Waldeck, was a classmate of Johannes MACRANDER. It may be possible that the Arnold LANGEMANN in Hamm and Rhynern could have been given a temporary task of conducting an interrogation and trial in Westfalen in 1603. His sons did not seem to have begun their early schooling until around 1605 in Wildungen! and university attendance until 1614.