In regard to the query of Judy Christopher - My Hoermann Gr is trfather had the town of Winzlar, where he was from on his tombstone, and knowing they were Lutheran, I wrote to the Lutheran Church there and got an answer from the Pastor, this was several years ago though. Winzlar is NW of the city of Hanover, near the Lunenburg sea(or lake), near Rehburg-Locum. The other Gr Grfather stated in his appplication for Citizenship that he was from the village of Eshbruch, which is still there but is in what was W. Prussia, since l945 is in Russian occupied Poland I am told. See if the church here has an obit, see his application for citizenship, see if an obit in newspaper. Good Luck. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Christopher" <ajuntasc@suscom.net> To: <NIEDERSACHSEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 12:33 PM Subject: [NIEDERSACHSEN] Re: [NIEDERSACHSEN] Re: Bro. & Sis. - Hannah and Harmann Köster/Koester: Hannover > AL >I have searched high and low in the US to find the town where my Haverbecks >came from. No one has this information. Not LDS, Not marriage cert, Not >death cert, not US Fed. Census, Not obits, Not Ship lists.Where does one >look now? Judy Christopher (researching Haverbeck) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <rct301@msn.com> > To: <NIEDERSACHSEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 11:40 AM > Subject: [NIEDERSACHSEN] Re: Bro. & Sis. - Hannah and Harmann > Köster/Koester: Hannover > AL > > >> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >> Classification: Query >> >> Message Board URL: >> >> http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZVC.2ACE/4054.1 >> >> Message Board Post: >> >> Evelyn, vital records are not and never have been kept at either the >> national, state or provincial level in Germany. In Germany, vital >> records are kept strictly at the local level. So before you can proceed, >> you are going to have to do additional research in the U.S. and find out >> exactly which city, town or village in Hanover the Köster family was >> from. >> >> The brother and sister you mention were born in what was until 1866 the >> Kingdom of Hanover (in German: Hannover), the capital of which was the >> city of Hanover (Hannover). Like most of the major German states, >> Hanover sided with Austria against Prussia in the Austro-Prussian War, or >> Seven Weeks War, of 1866. Austria and her allies were defeated. The >> Kingdom of Prussia (in German: Preussen; capital: Berlin) thereupon >> annexed Hanover, which then became what was to then remain until 1945 the >> Prussian province of Hanover. >> >> As I've mentioned before, following World War II and the break-up of the >> vast state of Prussia by the Allies, the Prussian province of Hanover, >> the state of Oldenburg, and the two very small states of Brunswick (in >> German: Braunschweig) and Schaumburg-Lippe combined to form today's >> German state of Lower Saxony (in German: Niedersachsen), with the city of >> Hanover (in German: Hannover) as its capital. >> >> Here is the link to a map of pre-1945 Hanover (shown in purple) so that >> you know what it looked like. To give you an idea of size as you look at >> the map, Hanover covered an area a little larger than that covered by the >> U.S. states of Maryland and Delaware combined. You will also note the >> tiny state of Schaumburg-Lippe (capital: Bückeburg), shown in white and >> where Bergkirchen was located, which, as I've mentioned before, is NOT to >> be confused with the state of Lippe (capital: Detmold) to its south and >> shown in yellow and which is one of the components of today's German >> state of North Rhine-Westphalia (in German: Nordrhein-Westfalen): >> >> http://www.gonschior.de/weimar/Preussen/Hannover/uebersichtskarte.html >> >> Again, like I said, before you can proceed, you are going to have to do >> additional research in the U.S. and find out just exactly which city, >> town or village in Hanover the Köster family was from. >> >> Robert >> >> >> >> >> ==== NIEDERSACHSEN Mailing List ==== >> NOTICE -- To answer messages from the MESSAGE BOARD you >> must click on the link in the message. This will take >> you to the MESSAGE BOARD and you can click POST REPLY >> to answer. 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I went to the cemetery, the church were they were married and the church they attended in New Jersey. There was no information listed anywhere as to where they came from except "Germany." I know they came from the State of Hanover from family tales and notes. Hannover has many towns, so where or where did Gustav Haverbeck come from. Judy Christopher (Haverbeck) ----- Original Message ----- From: <lempeg@sbcglobal.net> To: <NIEDERSACHSEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 3:23 PM Subject: [NIEDERSACHSEN] Re: [NIEDERSACHSEN] Re: [NIEDERSACHSEN] Re: Bro. & Sis. - Hannah and Harmann Köster/Koester: Hannover > AL > In regard to the query of Judy Christopher - My Hoermann Gr is trfather > had the town of Winzlar, where he was from on his tombstone, and knowing > they were Lutheran, I wrote to the Lutheran Church there and got an answer > from the Pastor, this was several years ago though. Winzlar is NW of the > city of Hanover, near the Lunenburg sea(or lake), near Rehburg-Locum. The > other Gr Grfather stated in his appplication for Citizenship that he was > from the village of Eshbruch, which is still there but is in what was W. > Prussia, since l945 is in Russian occupied Poland I am told. See if the > church here has an obit, see his application for citizenship, see if an > obit in newspaper. Good Luck. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judy Christopher" <ajuntasc@suscom.net> > To: <NIEDERSACHSEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 12:33 PM > Subject: [NIEDERSACHSEN] Re: [NIEDERSACHSEN] Re: Bro. & Sis. - Hannah and > Harmann Köster/Koester: Hannover > AL > > >>I have searched high and low in the US to find the town where my >>Haverbecks came from. No one has this information. Not LDS, Not marriage >>cert, Not death cert, not US Fed. Census, Not obits, Not Ship lists.Where >>does one look now? Judy Christopher (researching Haverbeck) >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <rct301@msn.com> >> To: <NIEDERSACHSEN-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 11:40 AM >> Subject: [NIEDERSACHSEN] Re: Bro. & Sis. - Hannah and Harmann >> Köster/Koester: Hannover > AL >> >> >>> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >>> >>> Classification: Query >>> >>> Message Board URL: >>> >>> http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZVC.2ACE/4054.1 >>> >>> Message Board Post: >>> >>> Evelyn, vital records are not and never have been kept at either the >>> national, state or provincial level in Germany. In Germany, vital >>> records are kept strictly at the local level. So before you can >>> proceed, you are going to have to do additional research in the U.S. and >>> find out exactly which city, town or village in Hanover the Köster >>> family was from. >>> >>> The brother and sister you mention were born in what was until 1866 the >>> Kingdom of Hanover (in German: Hannover), the capital of which was the >>> city of Hanover (Hannover). Like most of the major German states, >>> Hanover sided with Austria against Prussia in the Austro-Prussian War, >>> or Seven Weeks War, of 1866. Austria and her allies were defeated. The >>> Kingdom of Prussia (in German: Preussen; capital: Berlin) thereupon >>> annexed Hanover, which then became what was to then remain until 1945 >>> the Prussian province of Hanover. >>> >>> As I've mentioned before, following World War II and the break-up of the >>> vast state of Prussia by the Allies, the Prussian province of Hanover, >>> the state of Oldenburg, and the two very small states of Brunswick (in >>> German: Braunschweig) and Schaumburg-Lippe combined to form today's >>> German state of Lower Saxony (in German: Niedersachsen), with the city >>> of Hanover (in German: Hannover) as its capital. >>> >>> Here is the link to a map of pre-1945 Hanover (shown in purple) so that >>> you know what it looked like. To give you an idea of size as you look >>> at the map, Hanover covered an area a little larger than that covered by >>> the U.S. states of Maryland and Delaware combined. You will also note >>> the tiny state of Schaumburg-Lippe (capital: Bückeburg), shown in white >>> and where Bergkirchen was located, which, as I've mentioned before, is >>> NOT to be confused with the state of Lippe (capital: Detmold) to its >>> south and shown in yellow and which is one of the components of today's >>> German state of North Rhine-Westphalia (in German: Nordrhein-Westfalen): >>> >>> http://www.gonschior.de/weimar/Preussen/Hannover/uebersichtskarte.html >>> >>> Again, like I said, before you can proceed, you are going to have to do >>> additional research in the U.S. and find out just exactly which city, >>> town or village in Hanover the Köster family was from. >>> >>> Robert >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== NIEDERSACHSEN Mailing List ==== >>> NOTICE -- To answer messages from the MESSAGE BOARD you >>> must click on the link in the message. This will take >>> you to the MESSAGE BOARD and you can click POST REPLY >>> to answer. 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