This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZVC.2ACE/3950.1 Message Board Post: what are the names of the towns you are looking for? there is a parish in nordrhein- westfalen that is OBERKIRCHEN, by knowing the towns you are looking for i may know if it falls under this parish, if so oberkirchen has a daten base on line "ortsfamilien- datenbank oberkirchen" althought some of my ansectors are listed not all are, altought they were married there and had childern baptised there ,so it is not complete, and there is also a very active mailinglist for this area it is in german but many are able to read english and they are very helpful, hope this may be of some help. anna marie schmitz