This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SUNDER Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZVC.2ACE/4007.1 Message Board Post: Lissa, 1) do not believe, that "Gusti" Sunder *1923 is the sister of Maria Elisabeth Sunder *1870. Seems to be biological very seldom. Even a mother gets rare children with 53 years. 2) "Gusti" is the affectionate form of "August" (male), may be very rarely used special in this aerea of Germany, seldom female. 3) Today there are no entries "Sunder" in the phone book of the town of Papenburg. [ use www.dastelefonbuch.de] But in the aerea 4x Sunder in 27 km distanced place 49751 Sögel [Umlaut o] 1x Sunder, Rosa 30 km distanced 26683 Saterland-Ramsloh 1x Sunder, Ewald 27 km distance 26802 Moormerland 1x Sunder, Martin 63 km distance 26419 Schortens There are the adresses and the phone too. 4) You should ask the townhall of Papenburg [www.papenburg.de] or Sögel [www. soegel.de]Standesamt/Einwohnermeldeamt to ascertain the proper (new or last) address. There is a little fee to be paid. a) buergerbuero@papenburg.de b) Wuebben@soegel.de 5) Use e.g. this map: http://www.mappy.com/