This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZVC.2ACE/3991.2.1 Message Board Post: Robert: Thanks for your reply, it helps understand the complex political boundries in pre 1945 Germany. My g-g-fathers naturalization papers listed him as a citizen of Prussia so it's possible that the papers are incorrect. Kerald

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZVC.2ACE/3991.2 Message Board Post: Kerald, the town of Grünenplan -- or if written without the "Umlaut" (two dots) over the "u", Gruenenplan -- was NOT in the state (until 1918, Kingdom) of Prussia (in German: Preussen; capital: Berlin). Grünenplan was located in the District (in German: Kreis) of Holzminden in what was until 1945 the very small state (until 1918, Duchy) of Brunswick (in German: Braunschweig), the capital of which was the city of Brunswick (Braunschweig), where the Duke resided. Following World War II and the break-up of the huge state of Prussia, the Prussian province of Hanover, the state of Oldenburg, and the two very small states of Brunswick (Braunschweig) and Schaumburg-Lippe combinded to form today's German state of Lower Saxony (in German: Niedersachsen), with the city of Hanover (in German: Hannover) as its capital. Grünenplan is no longer an independent town. Since 1974, it has been part of the town of Delligsen. Delligsen has a total population of about 9000 people, of whom about 3000 live in Grünenplan. Grünenplan wasn't actually a village (Dorf). It was a town (Gemeinde). Here is the link to a map of pre-1945 Brunswick (Braunschweig), so that you know what it looked like. It was made up of a number of enclaves covering together an area just a little smaller than that covered by the U.S. state of Rhode Island. To the southwest, you will see the enclave that included the city of Holzminden. Grünenplan is right near Holzminden. http://www.gonschior.de/weimar/Braunschweig/uebersichtskarte.html And here is the link to a map of Germany and its states today. In the north, you will see today's state of Lower Saxony (Niedersachsen), of which Brunswick (Braunschweig), located in the southern part, is one of the four components: http://www.rootsweb.com/~wggerman/state.htm Robert

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Gloystein Classification: Death Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZVC.2ACE/340.1 Message Board Post: Found this at a cemetery in Nebraska as we happened to drive past and I wanted to explore: Hermann D. Gloystein Sept. 28, 1853 – June 4, 1939 Marie Sophie Wilhelmine Wife of Hermann D. Gloystein Jan. 28, 1853 – Feb. 7, 1906 Emma Johanna Sept. 21, 1888 – June 20, 1889 Meta Augusta June 20, 1891 – Oct. 9, 1891 From Hopewell Cemetery, which is south of Unadilla in Otoe County, NE NOT related, but maybe it'll help you! Have a picture too if you'd like it via email

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZVC.2ACE/3991.1 Message Board Post: Google it, lots of hits. Seems to be about 3000 population.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Alms, Brammer, Fellersmann, Gralher, Habermann, Hinrichs, Hohls, Hormann, Marquardt, Meyerhof, Oehus, Wrogemann Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZVC.2ACE/3992 Message Board Post: Seeking correspondence with others who are researching any of these families that came from the Bergen, Krs. Celle area: ALMS, BRAMMER, FELLERSMANN, GRALHER, HABERMANN, HINRICHS, HOHLS, HORMANN, MARQUARDT, MEYERHOF, OEHUS, and WROGEMANN.

In einer eMail vom 14.08.2005 03:56:34 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit schreibt kyearns@MCHSI.COM: > Kerald Yearns Sehr geehrter Kerald Yearns, die Kirchenbücher des Ortes Grünenplan, gemeinsam mit Delligsen, liegen im Staatsarchiv Wolfenbüttel. Mit freundlichen Grüßen Klaus Kunze

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Joerns Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZVC.2ACE/3991 Message Board Post: My g-g-father, Heinrich Joerns, emigrated fom Grunenplan in the 1850's. In the 1850's what was Gruenplan's political connection (kreis, state, nation etc.) According to our family history Grunenplna in the 1850's was a part of Purssia. I also want to know what is the current population of this dorf. Thanks, Kerald Yearns

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZVC.2ACE/3990.1.1 Message Board Post: Robert T. Thank you for your suggestion. Frau Stueve replied within a few hours. She had researched the whole period 1875-1914, unfortunately without result. She did not have a death certificate for my great grandmother, although she did have one for my greatgrandfather who died in Bederkesa in 1904. Frau Stueve must be one of the few Still working in mid-August. Thanks again.

Hello all, Ankum and Bersenbruck were wonderful when I visted my Gärke family in that area, and Doethen. I find it interesting how Ankum takes pride in it's streets and ornate town design. It reminds me of how Minster (Ohio) and New Bremen (Ohio) try to outdo each other in keeping their towns up. The Gärke family orignally is decended from the Stottmann line until they bought the Gärke farm and changed their name to match the farm back in old times. Bergman, Holdheide and other names I noted were the same in that area as it was in mine. Best wishes, Jason ernest.travers@att.net wrote: >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Surnames: kamp, kemper, stottmann, toebben-otke >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZVC.2ACE/3887.1.1.3.1.1.1 > >Message Board Post: > >My great, great grandfather was Herman Theordor Kemper of Stottenhausen and Besten. He was Catholic and the son of Anton Joseph Kemper. His mother was a Telgkamp and her mother was a Toebben-Otke. Other names in this line were Dieker, Kuesterberg, Kuenne, Wiggers, Woesmann, Niemann, etc. My great great grandmother was Helena Margarethe Kamp (I've also see it as Margarethe Magdalena Kamp)..I'm searching for the family of either Kemper or Kamp. I've been to Ankum too and have worked with Frau van der Haar over there, but have hit the old 'brick wall'. > > >==== NIEDERSACHSEN Mailing List ==== >NOTICE -- To answer messages from the MESSAGE BOARD you >must click on the link in the message. This will take >you to the MESSAGE BOARD and you can click POST REPLY >to answer. Your reply will be sent back to the list for >all to benefit. > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.5/68 - Release Date: 8/10/2005

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZVC.2ACE/3990.1 Message Board Post: Robert, if your great-grandparents were living in Bad Bederkesa when your great-grandmother drowned, the Registry Office (Standesamt) in Bad Bederkesa will have her death record on file, which should give you her birthplace. The Standesamt in Bad Bederkesa is headed by a woman by the name of Wera Stüve. I will give you her e-mail address. Be sure to make the subject line of your e-mail "Sterbeurkunde", German for "death record", so that Frau Stüve immediately knows what it's about, but if you want, you can type the body of the e-mail in English. w.stueve@sg-bederkesa.de (Remember, this is August, when people are away, in case you don't hear back from her right away.) Robert

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Beckmann, Offermann Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZVC.2ACE/3990 Message Board Post: Looking for information about my greatgradmother Metta Beckmann who married Hermann Offermann about 1870. He came from Bornberg near Hechthausen. I think she may have come from the area north of Bad Bederkesa between Otterndorf and Steinau. All I know is that she drowned near Steinau on her way to a wedding in 1898. They had spent their married life in Bederkesa. I have been through the Hechthausen and Bederkesa churchbooks microfilmed by the Family History center but have not found Metta's birth or their marriage in the records.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: williams allsopps Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZVC.2ACE/2074.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Arlene were your english ancesters Williams or Allsopps

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: hott Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZVC.2ACE/1794.1988 Message Board Post: hi what i have on the hott family is our family came from germany in 1738 went to lancaster pa and then to white hall (winchester) va it start out with george and magdalena shanholtzer or shantz there children was george, samuel, john, and henry samuel is my ggggrandfather he was b. abt 1774 in frederick va, his wife was barbara shanholtzer and there daughter barbara hott married william trouten , there son george trouten married mary sterling , there daughter hannah trouten married albert g marsh and my dad name was albert b marsh who married frances estep that how my line goes mary

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Oelschlager; Beimstroh; Paxson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZVC.2ACE/2074.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: No. Sounds like you have Scandinavians in your tree. Mine are strickly German (and English). My Gr.grandmother's maiden name was Beimstroh (Beymstroh). Her children were Elizabeth married Oscar Hey; Herman married Ida Stephens; John (didn't marry); Annie married John Forche; Wilhelmina married Thomas Black; Carrie married Ervin Paxson and George married Rose Wirth.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Roberg Danielson Erickson Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZVC.2ACE/2074.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Arlene do you have Roberg or Danielson or Erickson in your Family Tree on your Grandmothers side.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZVC.2ACE/2074.1.1 Message Board Post: Sorry, I have no idea, as I still know nothing about my gr. grandfather or his family. I have made progress on my gr. grandmother, but not his side. If you have any information that could maybe help me, I would appreciate it. Thanks.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: allsopp Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZVC.2ACE/2074.1 Message Board Post: Hi Arlene any Williams Connections

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZVC.2ACE/3887.1.1.3.2 Message Board Post: You could try "Arbeitskreis Familienforschung Osnabrück e.V." the genealogical society for Osnabrück and surrounding villages. They have a branch in Ankum. Ankum parish registers are transcribed and indexed as far as I know. The e-mail address is: osfa (at) j-t.de (Frau Claudia Janßen-Timmen, secretary) Good luck. Renate

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kemper, Kamp Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZVC.2ACE/3887.1.1.3.1.1.2 Message Board Post: By the way, when my family came to the USA, they settled in Cincinnati where Herman was a cabinet maker on Betts Street.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: kamp, kemper, stottmann, toebben-otke Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZVC.2ACE/3887.1.1.3.1.1.1 Message Board Post: My great, great grandfather was Herman Theordor Kemper of Stottenhausen and Besten. He was Catholic and the son of Anton Joseph Kemper. His mother was a Telgkamp and her mother was a Toebben-Otke. Other names in this line were Dieker, Kuesterberg, Kuenne, Wiggers, Woesmann, Niemann, etc. My great great grandmother was Helena Margarethe Kamp (I've also see it as Margarethe Magdalena Kamp)..I'm searching for the family of either Kemper or Kamp. I've been to Ankum too and have worked with Frau van der Haar over there, but have hit the old 'brick wall'.