Forwarding to the list on behalf of norm bourguignon. Please note that the mailing address for this list is NIEDERSACHSEN-L@ROOTSWEB.COM >Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 16:49:52 -0600 >From: norm bourguignon <racamba@powerup.com.au> > > >Hi to all, I'm looking for a FRICKE family. > >Father: Johann FRICKE >Mother: Mary STEMPLE >Son: Frederick FRICKE married Henriette LOSMANN, LISSMAN, or >LEISMANN abt 1858 in Germany > Frederick died at Goomeri Australia in 1888 aged 56. His > place of birth is VEDELO. Does anyone know of this town? I have > used all sorts of methods myself but had no luck in locating it. > >Regards, Gaylene

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Mohrhauser Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZVC.2ACE/4108.2.1 Message Board Post: Hello and I am the grandchild of George and Mary Mohrhauser of Cresco, IA. Both are passed away and my mother is Beverly. I am most interested in further up the family tree from George and Magdelena. I have met Richard Mohrhauser but I am not aquainted with the rest of the folks from Danbury area. It is good to hear from you and make your aquaintence. My e-mail address is WilsonRA@aol.com and perhaps you can drop me an e-mail and we can compare notes. I always enjoy meeting a new relative and seeing what stories they may have. Hope to hear from you again and I have relatives in Saint Cloud on the other side of the family. I live in California myself. Ray

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZVC.2ACE/438.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Please email me directly to go over the specific of this family tree. I am about 90% sure your line is the same line I have. My email address is neaj93@yahoo.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZVC.2ACE/438.1.1 Message Board Post: This helped me. I have Tobias born 12 -20-1805 but that he died oct 21 1874. I also have that he was married to Maria Anna Wente Quartman but had no other information on her. I do not have Johann Michael as a younger brother but there would be room between my 1810 and 1813 records. Do you have Tobias' other siblings names ? Do you have Johann George Albert Drees as his father ? and then Tobias Elsen Drees as his father ? This is where I have become confused with all the Tobias' and not that many dates.

Hi all ... My HILMER / HILLMEER ancestors were from several small villages ... mostly in the now Kreis Uelzen area ... but, some are in Luneburg. My request is that any one researching that happens to run across any person with surname HILMER or HILLMER, to please copy it off for me. I try to capture the information even if they are not my ancestors as we have several HILMER / HILLMER descendants who are all researching together. Thanks ... Bonita Hillmer Arizona, USA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZVC.2ACE/2852.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I would love to get more information from you on Kuether's. Elisabeth is in my family tree. I have her and Johann's information. I then have their daughter Anna Marie's information except for a wedding date and I have one child for her. Do you have a wedding date for Johann and Elisabeth ? I also have his parents names but no dates. If you could help me that would be great. Thanks Michelle mmpetras@comcast.net

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZVC.2ACE/4108.2 Message Board Post: I'm not sure how much I can tell you about the George John Mohrhauser you are searching for. I think he was my grandfather's uncle. My grandfather was George John Mohrhauser, but he was married to Magdalena Olson. They were from and are buried in Danberry, Iowa. I also had an uncle George John Mohrhauser who married a Mary Schliemer (may not be correct spelling). I'm not sure if my aunt Mary is still alive, but they lived in Cresco, Iowa. This is interesting because I always thought I was the third GJM. Now it looks like I may be the fourth. I live in St Cloud, MN and am the son of Emmett and Lucy Mohrhauser.

Hi, I have been trying for several years to get some lead on my German ancestors who emigrated to Liverpool in Great Britain in about 1866. I have many details of them after they arrived but little clue prior to emigration. Unfortunately all family records were lost when the family home was destroyed during the bombing of Liverpool in the Second World War. They were: Carl Ernst ADOLPH, a smith born 1838/1839 somewhere in Prussia, married to Marie Wilhelmina Lucia T"ADTER (or T"ODTER), born 1841/1842 in Hanover (the state I assume) As you probably know, without any indication of the parish they came from it is almost impossible to get any further with research. Have any of you come across these people in your research? best regards, Richard Francis

Hello all, I would like to remind everyone that this list is specific for researching NEIDERSACHSEN, and DNA and genographic studies of "German ancestor's locations" is off topic for this discussion. Please direct all comments privately to the poster. Unless the DNA OR genographic studies are specific for Neidersachsen it is off topic. This includes any general discussion of DNA or where to get DNA testing done. Rootsweb does have mailing list that appropriate for this type of discussion: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/DNA/GENEALOGY-DNA.html It is a very lively and active discussion group. I would also like to remind everyone that before posting a message that may be off-topic it's always best to contact the list admin first. Thank you, Joan Asche List Admin > While the genographic test is designed for deep ancestry, I'd like to > connect to list members with similar deep ancestry to learn their German > ancestor's locations from the last 3-4 centuries. > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation http://www.smgf.org will do 37/43 marker testing free. They do not provide results back but you can search by surname for Y-chromosome. For mtDNA you need some results to start. Have you tried inputting your marker results? It will also allow you to search the http://www.ysearch.org site as well which is the FamilyTreeDNA database. Bonita Hillmer -----Original Message----- From: Carolyn Beno [mailto:cebeno@cox.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 9:46 PM To: NIEDERSACHSEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NIEDERSACHSEN] Haplogroups of NIEDERSACHSEN Ancestors I am curious how many list members have had a genographic test done, who their oldest ancestor was and where they lived. My oldest female ancestors are Ilse Maria TEISINGT who died in 1805 and her daughter, Anna Margarethe Christine PLUMER (1773-1843). The family lived near Diepholz, Germany. A mitochondrial DNA sample was sent to the National Geographic genographic project and it came back Haplogroup K based on 12 markers. These results were uploaded to FamilyTreeDNA, tested for additional markers and showed Haplogroup K1a. While the genographic test is designed for deep ancestry, I'd like to connect to list members with similar deep ancestry to learn their German ancestor's locations from the last 3-4 centuries. To keep this thread relevant to the list, please limit posts to Haplogroup result, oldest ancestor, places and dates. Thanks. Carolyn ==== NIEDERSACHSEN Mailing List ==== To contact the List Admin: mailto:NIEDERSACHSEN-admin@rootsweb.com To unsubscribe send an email to: NIEDERSACHSEN-L-request@rootsweb.com (In Digest Mode change the "L" to a "D") with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

I am curious how many list members have had a genographic test done, who their oldest ancestor was and where they lived. My oldest female ancestors are Ilse Maria TEISINGT who died in 1805 and her daughter, Anna Margarethe Christine PLUMER (1773-1843). The family lived near Diepholz, Germany. A mitochondrial DNA sample was sent to the National Geographic genographic project and it came back Haplogroup K based on 12 markers. These results were uploaded to FamilyTreeDNA, tested for additional markers and showed Haplogroup K1a. While the genographic test is designed for deep ancestry, I'd like to connect to list members with similar deep ancestry to learn their German ancestor's locations from the last 3-4 centuries. To keep this thread relevant to the list, please limit posts to Haplogroup result, oldest ancestor, places and dates. Thanks. Carolyn

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Drees & Wente Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZVC.2ACE/438.1 Message Board Post: Tobias was born 12-20-1805 in Garrel, Germany. He married Maria Anna Wente Quartman 5-3-1835 in Minster, Auglaize Cty, OH Tobias died 1-23-1850 in Minster. Maria was born 1-6-1802 just outside Oldenburg. She died 2-19-1874 in Minster. Tobias came to the US in 1833 following his younger brother Johann MIchael Drees born 1812.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kralman (originally Krallmaann) Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZVC.2ACE/2310.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Wenceslaus and Christine were my great-grandparents. I am descended from their son Henry John Kralman (my grandfather). My father, Paul Kralman, passed away December 2, 2005.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZVC.2ACE/2310.1.1.1 Message Board Post: What is your line of descent from Wenceslaus & Christine? I am descended from Christine's uncle John Bernard Wilmes, brother to her mother Caroline Wilmes. This Koebbe family came over in 1868 on the ship Stella, arriving in New Orleans 15 Oct 1868.

Hello all, Migration of this list to the new list management system was postponed because of delivery problems with AOL that developed after the A-C lists migrated to the new system. Rootsweb has put the D-Z migration on hold until this problem with AOL is resolved. You can read all about here: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ AOL users can find additional information about this by subscribing to the support group AOLers-RootsWeb Mailing List or simply reading through the list archives. http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/RootsWeb_Support/AOLers-RootsWeb.html I will no longer pester you with updates because if interested you can use this link http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ for updates or email me privately off the list at jasche45133@gmail.com. Thanks for your patience. Joan List Admin

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Schlaphof Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZVC.2ACE/4125.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: No, I didn't know that. I live by the big mall of america and i was surprised to see that they have somthing of their own. suppose if i google i could find some of that. The nationality somehow makes that news a surprise to me. children of my generation played cowboy and indian and could watch tamer movies of roy rogers or gene autry and tonto.. There were other balck and white movies on budget channels on sturday. It does make me wonder what they saw........... I suppose our ancestors woulds say uncle Henry Schlaphof moved to Nebraska where they ride horses and look out for indians... and see buffaloo..... I suppose famous battles get heard of such as that of 'custards last stand'... etc........ Just as the story of a battle at Gohrde where the woman who fought as a man with the soldiers against the French is shown in a famous opera. I can't recall her exact name or the opera........ well known world over. The museaum at Goehrde has the figurines placed as if in Battle. I think the medal sight and listings of t those who died in military may have her name.. Pachke or something like it. Howeve, here is a site that looks good for later investigation....about those who fought there and the french. There is a sight about the renaction of the battle. lots of pictures. Perhaps googling 'Roethen' might help me find it again. http://www.regiments.org/regiments/europe/de-regts/KGL.htm I did get off subject didn't IWould you know anything about Schuze or schultz. land or city ara given to those of military service.... What do you know of those theme parks and such?

Samuel is in the 1900 Census with a name spelled Litke in Ford City, Armstrong County, PA. ED 14 p. 16, with each of the children plus more. Julie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZVC.2ACE/4127 Message Board Post: need help to research Samuel Littek in Germany. He migrated to the USA in 1891. Port of departure was Antwerp,Belguim. Port of entry New York May 6, 1891. Have no town in germany. Only place mentioned in any old documents was Oldenburg.Traveled with his wife Katarina Rosen Littek and four children Fred,Charlie, Welhelm and Augusta. Looking for Birth papers, baptism and marriage records Samuel Littek Birth: 3-16-1855 Katarina Rosen Littek Birth: 9-24-1855 Welhelm Littek Birth: 4-3-1887

From: the online booklet http://mki.wisc.edu/hgia/ a partial quote from the booklet: http://mki.wisc.edu/HGIA/Settling.htm >David Zeisberger (1721-1808), a native of German-speaking Moravia, spent >his life as a missionary of the Moravian (Herrnhuter) Church, working >mainly in Pennsylvania and Ohio with various Indian groups. His extensive >writings on Native cultures and languages, several of which he spoke >fluently, remain invaluable sources of information for scholars today. The >reproduction on this page shows Zeisberger, as portrayed in 1862 by the >Alsatian-American immigrant artist, Christian Schussele (1824-1879). Image courtesy of the Moravian Archives, Bethlehem, PA, <www.moravianarchives.org>. In part because of contacts between German-speaking immigrants and Native Americans, Germans back home developed a fascination with Indians that has continued unabated to the present. In the last quarter of the nineteenth century, hundreds of fictionalized treatments of American Indians appeared in Germany, the best known of which are the novels of Karl May (1842-1912), whose only visit to America-in 1908-came after he had completed most of his works. Today, there are an estimated 200 "Indian clubs" in Germany whose members don feathers and war paint and "recreate" traditional Native ceremonies. An important corrective to these activities is the Native American Association of Germany, e.V., founded in Kaiserslautern in 1994 by Lindbergh Namingha, a former U.S. serviceman and member of the Hopi Tribe. Back in the U.S., the novelist Louise Erdrich (b. 1954), whose mother is Ojibwa Indian and father German-American, has thematized German-Indian cultural contact to great acclaim. < My materna (non-German) grandfather seems to have traded things with the Native Americans in western Nebraska in the 1920's and 1930's and my mother and her sister had a tepee they used to play in that he had been given in exchange for something that I do not know what. I enjoyed the other letters to Jo. Amy Uehara ----- Original Message ----- From: <cwitze@comcast.net> To: <NIEDERSACHSEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 5:48 AM Subject: Re: pre immigration germany... knowledge of native american Indians > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZVC.2ACE/4125.1.1.2 > > Message Board Post: > > Jo....in that time frame, I imagine it would have been word of mouth and > newspapers....immigrants east of the Mississippi probably didn't have much > problem, the Indians having been pretty much subdued/died out by then. > Maybe still a problem in Western NY/Canada, but the French and Indian war > was long over by then. Out west (I live in New Mexico), the Indian Wars > went on into the late 1800s. The German author, Karl May, started > publishing his books about Old Shatterhand, et al, in the late 1800's, so > anyone going out West could learn something from them. As you may know, > today's Germans have a fascination with the "Wild West", complete with > theme parks and carnival costumes. >

Thanks for the head's up Joan. The spam filters may well be in need of adjustment for some (they will be for me). Jb >From: "Joan Asche" <jasche45133@gmail.com> >To: NIEDERSACHSEN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [NIEDERSACHSEN] List Update >Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 10:21:24 -0400 > >Hello all, > >As you probably already know the mailing lists are being moved to a >new list management system. This list is scheduled to be migrated on >Thursday, August 24 > >For anyone interested the schedule and additional information may be >found http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/migrate_sched.html > >Once this list is moved to the new service it should not present any >problems but you should be aware that you may need to adjust your spam >filters. _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/