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    1. [NICKNAME] Nicknames for Olava?
    2. Karen Isaacson Leverich
    3. I'm researching a girl born in 1866 in Norway, who came to Minnesota in 1885. Her name was Olava, and she's proving hard to find in Minnesota. She didn't go by Olive, which was my best guess as to how the name would be Americanized. Does anyone have a good book (or website) for nicknames that would suggest some possibilities? Karen

    12/06/2019 05:03:18
    1. [NICKNAME] Not really a nickname...
    2. Karen Isaacson Leverich
    3. Less a nickname and more an alternate spelling, but I just ran across this in the Madison County, Kentucky, court order book from November 1795: "A Power of Attorney from MARCIA Guinn, of the one part, and Samuel Emmerson, of the Other part, was Acknowledged by the said MARTHA, to be her act and Deed and Ordered to be Recorded." So at least in that time and place, Marcia and Martha were used interchangably... Karen

    06/11/2018 11:20:38
    1. [NICKNAME] Mehitable ... nicknames?
    2. Karen Isaacson Leverich
    3. Does anyone know any nicknames for Mehitabel or Mehitable? Thanks! Karen

    04/03/2013 02:08:11
    1. [NICKNAME] The nickname is "Door" (or something like that) ... what would the name be?
    2. Karen Isaacson Leverich
    3. When my mother was a little girl, she was told that her aunt's first husband was "Door" Drake. We're not sure of the spelling, that's just how it sounded to her. Geographically, this might have been northwest Missouri, or northeast Wyoming (the two places aunt Oma Grace lived before she would have married). Anyone have any ideas? In 1920, she was 21 and living at home with her parents. In 1930, she was living in Dayton, Ohio with the con man she left Door for. The marriage was of short duration, ditto the relationship with the con man. She never married again after that. Of course, in this context, the nickname didn't necessarily have anything to do with the man's name (her brother Otha Marse Grace was known as "Sam"), but I don't have much to go on (no "hits" in vital records to date), so am looking for ideas. Isador is possible (but didn't open any doors, pun not intended). Anyone have any other bright ideas? Thanks! Karen

    03/03/2013 04:42:24
    1. Re: [NICKNAME] A bit more on the first name or nickname Dee
    2. Kathy Irwin
    3. Hello Karen, I have not checked out the links that you have sent as of yet, but I will.  Going by what you have written concerning the surname Dee, I have considered the possibility of the name being a maiden name.  But, I have nowhere to go with that.    Dee possibly being short for David, don't remember if I mentioned it ,but I did find a David about the same age in Alabama living with a different family.  Haven't checked him out yet.    I have considered Dee as a middle name and have also considered a middle initial "D" that grew into the name Dee.  He was born in 1877, going by what you have written maybe Dee was his first name.    Thank you for taking the time to look, Wikipedia never entered my mind.  I "will" check out the websites that you mentioned.  Thanks again   Merry Christmas   Kathy Irwin Odessa, Texas USA kathy1619@yahoo.com condor@texasonline.net ________________________________ From: Karen Isaacson Leverich <karen@mtpinos.com> To: nickname@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 10:06 PM Subject: [NICKNAME] A bit more on the first name or nickname Dee There's an article (or an outline) in Wikipedia about Dee: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dee It's a relatively common surname ... they give a lot of examples of people with the surname Dee. Surnames are sometimes used in later generations as first names, so Dee Turlington might simply have had an ancestor whose surname was Dee. But Wikipedia gives another usage of Dee: Diminutive for the name David, common in the UK and Ireland. Then: See also - Douglas (given name) (But I went to the Douglas page to see what it had to say about Dee, and there was nothing there.) Among the semi-famous Dee's are Dee Bradley Baker (whose first name is Dee): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dee_Bradley_Baker and Dee Snider, born Daniel Dee Snider: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dee_Snider This site is a bit commercial (Baby Names World) but has an interesting chart on the popularity of Dee as a name for boys and girls, from 1880 through 2009. http://babynamesworld.parentsconnect.com/meaning_of_Dee.html In 1880, it was (relatively) popular for boys ... the 330th most common first name, and not so popular for girls (775th). It's usage for boys has declined steadly, but for girls peaked in the 1940s/50s/60s. Not that this helps find that lost ancestor, LOL! Karen ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NICKNAME-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/23/2011 08:02:53
    1. [NICKNAME] A bit more on the first name or nickname Dee
    2. Karen Isaacson Leverich
    3. There's an article (or an outline) in Wikipedia about Dee: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dee It's a relatively common surname ... they give a lot of examples of people with the surname Dee. Surnames are sometimes used in later generations as first names, so Dee Turlington might simply have had an ancestor whose surname was Dee. But Wikipedia gives another usage of Dee: Diminutive for the name David, common in the UK and Ireland. Then: See also - Douglas (given name) (But I went to the Douglas page to see what it had to say about Dee, and there was nothing there.) Among the semi-famous Dee's are Dee Bradley Baker (whose first name is Dee): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dee_Bradley_Baker and Dee Snider, born Daniel Dee Snider: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dee_Snider This site is a bit commercial (Baby Names World) but has an interesting chart on the popularity of Dee as a name for boys and girls, from 1880 through 2009. http://babynamesworld.parentsconnect.com/meaning_of_Dee.html In 1880, it was (relatively) popular for boys ... the 330th most common first name, and not so popular for girls (775th). It's usage for boys has declined steadly, but for girls peaked in the 1940s/50s/60s. Not that this helps find that lost ancestor, LOL! Karen

    12/22/2011 01:06:49
    1. Re: [NICKNAME] Mr. Dee Turlington
    2. Ron Mitchell
    3. Yes, the "W" in George Bush's name is for "Walker". The "Dee" explanation you gave is very plausible. Ron Submarine Vet. On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Karen Isaacson Leverich wrote: >> I'm researching a gentleman named Dee Turlington and I haven't been >> able to get very far. The name Dee is the problem. > > This isn't going to help much but ... my grandfather's brother was > always > called Dee. Turns out it was a bit like our last president, George W. > Bush, > being called Dubya: Uncle Dee's name was really Henry D. Grace. The > "D" > wasn't short for anything (unlike the "W", which probably was), he > always > went be "Dee" once an adult, but many of the early records are for > Henry D. > > This was in Missouri, early 1900s. > > Karen > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NICKNAME-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    12/21/2011 03:02:01
    1. Re: [NICKNAME] Mr. Dee Turlington
    2. Karen Isaacson Leverich
    3. > I'm researching a gentleman named Dee Turlington and I haven't been able > to get very far. The name Dee is the problem. This isn't going to help much but ... my grandfather's brother was always called Dee. Turns out it was a bit like our last president, George W. Bush, being called Dubya: Uncle Dee's name was really Henry D. Grace. The "D" wasn't short for anything (unlike the "W", which probably was), he always went be "Dee" once an adult, but many of the early records are for Henry D. This was in Missouri, early 1900s. Karen

    12/21/2011 11:49:01
    1. [NICKNAME] Mr. Dee Turlington
    2. Kathy Irwin
    3. Hello People, I'm researching a gentleman named Dee Turlington and I haven't been able to get very far.  The name Dee is the problem.  I haven't been able to determine if Dee is short for something or a maiden name or just a nick name or his actual name.    He shows up in the 1920 TX census as Dee, nothing before then.  He is listed as Dee on his death certificate, his WWI draft registration card and cemetery records.    My question is: Is there a name that Dee would be a nickname for or short for.  Any ideas would be helpful.   Thank you   Kathy Irwin Odessa, Texas USA kathy1619@yahoo.com condor@texasonline.net

    12/21/2011 11:17:21
    1. [NICKNAME] Nicknames (etc.) on Cyndi's List
    2. Karen Isaacson Leverich
    3. There are several neat sounding links to nicknames and first name etymoligies, etc., on the "General Resources" page of Cyndi's List, here: http://www.cyndislist.com/names/general/ Although the page is called General Resources, all but one or two of the links have to do with names, naming patterns, etc. Worth a browse for sure! Karen

    11/20/2011 09:09:57
    1. Re: [NICKNAME] name Bertha
    2. Ron Mitchell
    3. I believe Bertha is it as you say. I have numerous Berthas and none indicated as a nickname. Ron Submarine Vet. On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Kris & Mark Dayvincent wrote: > My ggrandma's name was Bertha. Any ideas for a proper name or is > Bertha it? > Kris > > -----Original Message----- > From: nickname-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:nickname-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of nickname-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 12:00 AM > To: nickname@rootsweb.com > Subject: NICKNAME Digest, Vol 1, Issue 2 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Not first but early (Ron Mitchell) > 2. Re: Not first but early (Karen Isaacson Leverich) > 3. I may not be first but I'm early (Ron Mitchell) > 4. Re: Not first but early (Ron Mitchell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 08:34:20 -0500 (EST) > From: Ron Mitchell <ronboy1@charter.net> > Subject: Re: [NICKNAME] Not first but early > To: nickname@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <43d2eceb.8fa04.133b6e28f43.Webtop.46@charter.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no > > Yes as you suggest, all short for Ronald. I had been called Ronnie > all my life and thought that was my name. I even got my SS card using > 'Ronnie' so I still get mail from SS and my medical insurer addressed > to Ronnie D. I got a copy of my birth certificate and found out I'm > Ronald. > Have a great Thanksgiving!! > Ron or Whatever > > > Submarine Vet. > > > On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Karen Isaacson Leverich wrote: > >> You're an early adopter, Ron (short for Ronald?) ... no one else has >> arrived yet. We should be good after getting featured in the >> RootsWeb Review ... which doesn't come out until next month, oh well, >> LOL! >> >> Karen >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NICKNAME-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 07:28:32 -0800 (PST) > From: Karen Isaacson Leverich <karen@mtpinos.com> > Subject: Re: [NICKNAME] Not first but early > To: nickname@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <20111118152832.B8D5538253E@bw-10.mtpinos.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > More people have signed on! Welcome! Though there aren't that many of > us yet, it'd take some work to get a good thread going like back on > ROOTS-L. > >> Yes as you suggest, all short for Ronald. I had been called Ronnie >> all my life and thought that was my name. I even got my SS card >> using 'Ronnie' so I still get mail from SS and my medical insurer >> addressed to Ronnie D. I got a copy of my birth certificate and >> found out I'm Ronald. > > So you'd know first hand of the problems (if any) of using nicknames > in legal records, though I suppose we'll have to wait and consult your > great-grandchildren about whether or how that introduced difficulties > into their genealogical research. > > My husband's father was Bill Joe Leverich (you might guess this was > a southern family, and you'd be right). His birth certificate, > however, > had him "Billy Jo" and (this was a problem when he enlisted for WWII) > female. So he applied for a new birth certificate and got the name > changed to "Bill Joe". One might assume his real name was William > Joseph, > and that Bill Joe was a nickname, but not so. > > Now I don't know if Bill Joe had to go to court for a legal name > change > from Billy Jo or if he just walked in to Oklahoma vital statistics and > no problem, it was done: I'll have to ask. I do know my grandfather > switched back and forth all his life between O. M., Otha Marse, Marse, > and Sam without getting into any tangles. (And I've no CLUE where his > parents came up with that one!) > > Karen > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:47:29 -0500 (EST) > From: Ron Mitchell <ronboy1@charter.net> > Subject: [NICKNAME] I may not be first but I'm early > To: nickname@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <413e2c0c.8e144.133b4925624.Webtop.49@charter.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > > Just checking in. > Ron/Ronnie/ronboy all short for Ronald. > > Submarine Vet. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 11:31:46 -0500 (EST) > From: Ron Mitchell <ronboy1@charter.net> > Subject: Re: [NICKNAME] Not first but early > To: nickname@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <32cfa7d6.91c7d.133b784fe2e.Webtop.46@charter.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no > > Reminds me of commercial on WMAQ Chicago way back when people listened > to radio regularily. > > Seems a fellow named Billy Ray Joe Bob owned a business. By the time > he got the name out when people called they got discouraged and hung > up. After hearing some commercials on the radio, he changed his name > to Joe Bob, business picked up immensly. As I said just a commercial > touting the advantages of radio advertising. > > And yes, we southerners did our thing with names: Billie Ray, Jim Bob, > Billie Joe, etc. Speaking of Otha. I served with a sailor, Otha > Leon XXXX. > > I guess if someone called me Ronald, I would think they were mad at > me. > Ron > > Submarine Vet. > > > On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Karen Isaacson Leverich wrote: > >> More people have signed on! Welcome! Though there aren't that many of >> us yet, it'd take some work to get a good thread going like back on >> ROOTS-L. >> >>> Yes as you suggest, all short for Ronald. I had been called Ronnie >>> all my life and thought that was my name. I even got my SS card >>> using 'Ronnie' so I still get mail from SS and my medical insurer >>> addressed to Ronnie D. I got a copy of my birth certificate and >>> found out I'm Ronald. >> >> So you'd know first hand of the problems (if any) of using nicknames >> in legal records, though I suppose we'll have to wait and consult >> your >> great-grandchildren about whether or how that introduced difficulties >> into their genealogical research. >> >> My husband's father was Bill Joe Leverich (you might guess this was >> a southern family, and you'd be right). His birth certificate, >> however, >> had him "Billy Jo" and (this was a problem when he enlisted for WWII) >> female. So he applied for a new birth certificate and got the name >> changed to "Bill Joe". One might assume his real name was William >> Joseph, >> and that Bill Joe was a nickname, but not so. >> >> Now I don't know if Bill Joe had to go to court for a legal name >> change >> from Billy Jo or if he just walked in to Oklahoma vital statistics >> and >> no problem, it was done: I'll have to ask. I do know my grandfather >> switched back and forth all his life between O. M., Otha Marse, >> Marse, >> and Sam without getting into any tangles. (And I've no CLUE where his >> parents came up with that one!) >> >> Karen >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NICKNAME-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > > > End of NICKNAME Digest, Vol 1, Issue 2 > ************************************** > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1872 / Virus Database: 2092/4625 - Release Date: > 11/18/11 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NICKNAME-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/19/2011 03:10:49
    1. Re: [NICKNAME] name Bertha, et al
    2. juanita
    3. I never heard my grandmother being called anything but "Mamie" but her marriage certificate indicates her birthname as "Mary Belle". I looked for another grandmother as "Gracie" as shown on her birth record. Eventually I discovered her name to be "Mary" and her death certificate says her name was "Mamie". I've heard the name Bertha as "Birdie". juanita ks > My ggrandma's name was Bertha. Any ideas for a proper name or is > Bertha it? Kris

    11/19/2011 03:10:23
    1. Re: [NICKNAME] name Bertha
    2. Karen Isaacson Leverich
    3. > My ggrandma's name was Bertha. Any ideas for a proper name or is Bertha it? > Kris Bertha seems to be an old name (lots of history). From Wikipedia: Bertha is a female Germanic name, from Old High German berhta meaning "bright one". The name occurs as a theonym, surviving as Berchta, a figure in Alpine folklore connected to the Wild Hunt, probably an epithet of *Frijjō in origin. Bertha appears as a Frankish given name from as early as the 6th century. The monothematic Bertha as a given name may however not originate with the theonym but rather as a short form of dithematic given names including the "bright" element. This is notably the case with the mother of Charlemagne, Bertrada (properly berht-rada "bright counsel") called "Bertha Broadfoot". Carolingian use of the name Bertha, as in Bertha, daughter of Charlemagne and Bertha, daughter of Lothair II are in this tradition. There's a long list of Bertha's given, starting with Saint Bertha of Kent (539-c. 612), Queen of Kent. See here for more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertha There's a link to another website with a bit more information and a graph (click on the graph) to show that the name used to be somewhat popular but isn't at all anymore: http://www.behindthename.com/name/bertha As for nicknames, hmmmm, well, you weren't asking if Bertha had a nickname, you were asking if it was a nickname. But Bertie might have been used as a nickname for Bertha. (Indeed. Google for Bertha Bertie and Bertie appears to have been a common nick for Bertha.) Karen

    11/19/2011 12:55:28
    1. [NICKNAME] name Bertha
    2. Kris & Mark Dayvincent
    3. My ggrandma's name was Bertha. Any ideas for a proper name or is Bertha it? Kris -----Original Message----- From: nickname-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nickname-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of nickname-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 12:00 AM To: nickname@rootsweb.com Subject: NICKNAME Digest, Vol 1, Issue 2 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Not first but early (Ron Mitchell) 2. Re: Not first but early (Karen Isaacson Leverich) 3. I may not be first but I'm early (Ron Mitchell) 4. Re: Not first but early (Ron Mitchell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 08:34:20 -0500 (EST) From: Ron Mitchell <ronboy1@charter.net> Subject: Re: [NICKNAME] Not first but early To: nickname@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <43d2eceb.8fa04.133b6e28f43.Webtop.46@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no Yes as you suggest, all short for Ronald. I had been called Ronnie all my life and thought that was my name. I even got my SS card using 'Ronnie' so I still get mail from SS and my medical insurer addressed to Ronnie D. I got a copy of my birth certificate and found out I'm Ronald. Have a great Thanksgiving!! Ron or Whatever Submarine Vet. On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Karen Isaacson Leverich wrote: > You're an early adopter, Ron (short for Ronald?) ... no one else has > arrived yet. We should be good after getting featured in the RootsWeb > Review ... which doesn't come out until next month, oh well, LOL! > > Karen > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NICKNAME-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 07:28:32 -0800 (PST) From: Karen Isaacson Leverich <karen@mtpinos.com> Subject: Re: [NICKNAME] Not first but early To: nickname@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <20111118152832.B8D5538253E@bw-10.mtpinos.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii More people have signed on! Welcome! Though there aren't that many of us yet, it'd take some work to get a good thread going like back on ROOTS-L. > Yes as you suggest, all short for Ronald. I had been called Ronnie all > my life and thought that was my name. I even got my SS card using > 'Ronnie' so I still get mail from SS and my medical insurer addressed to > Ronnie D. I got a copy of my birth certificate and found out I'm > Ronald. So you'd know first hand of the problems (if any) of using nicknames in legal records, though I suppose we'll have to wait and consult your great-grandchildren about whether or how that introduced difficulties into their genealogical research. My husband's father was Bill Joe Leverich (you might guess this was a southern family, and you'd be right). His birth certificate, however, had him "Billy Jo" and (this was a problem when he enlisted for WWII) female. So he applied for a new birth certificate and got the name changed to "Bill Joe". One might assume his real name was William Joseph, and that Bill Joe was a nickname, but not so. Now I don't know if Bill Joe had to go to court for a legal name change from Billy Jo or if he just walked in to Oklahoma vital statistics and no problem, it was done: I'll have to ask. I do know my grandfather switched back and forth all his life between O. M., Otha Marse, Marse, and Sam without getting into any tangles. (And I've no CLUE where his parents came up with that one!) Karen ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:47:29 -0500 (EST) From: Ron Mitchell <ronboy1@charter.net> Subject: [NICKNAME] I may not be first but I'm early To: nickname@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <413e2c0c.8e144.133b4925624.Webtop.49@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Just checking in. Ron/Ronnie/ronboy all short for Ronald. Submarine Vet. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 11:31:46 -0500 (EST) From: Ron Mitchell <ronboy1@charter.net> Subject: Re: [NICKNAME] Not first but early To: nickname@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <32cfa7d6.91c7d.133b784fe2e.Webtop.46@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no Reminds me of commercial on WMAQ Chicago way back when people listened to radio regularily. Seems a fellow named Billy Ray Joe Bob owned a business. By the time he got the name out when people called they got discouraged and hung up. After hearing some commercials on the radio, he changed his name to Joe Bob, business picked up immensly. As I said just a commercial touting the advantages of radio advertising. And yes, we southerners did our thing with names: Billie Ray, Jim Bob, Billie Joe, etc. Speaking of Otha. I served with a sailor, Otha Leon XXXX. I guess if someone called me Ronald, I would think they were mad at me. Ron Submarine Vet. On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Karen Isaacson Leverich wrote: > More people have signed on! Welcome! Though there aren't that many of > us yet, it'd take some work to get a good thread going like back on > ROOTS-L. > >> Yes as you suggest, all short for Ronald. I had been called Ronnie >> all my life and thought that was my name. I even got my SS card >> using 'Ronnie' so I still get mail from SS and my medical insurer >> addressed to Ronnie D. I got a copy of my birth certificate and >> found out I'm Ronald. > > So you'd know first hand of the problems (if any) of using nicknames > in legal records, though I suppose we'll have to wait and consult your > great-grandchildren about whether or how that introduced difficulties > into their genealogical research. > > My husband's father was Bill Joe Leverich (you might guess this was > a southern family, and you'd be right). His birth certificate, > however, > had him "Billy Jo" and (this was a problem when he enlisted for WWII) > female. So he applied for a new birth certificate and got the name > changed to "Bill Joe". One might assume his real name was William > Joseph, > and that Bill Joe was a nickname, but not so. > > Now I don't know if Bill Joe had to go to court for a legal name > change > from Billy Jo or if he just walked in to Oklahoma vital statistics and > no problem, it was done: I'll have to ask. I do know my grandfather > switched back and forth all his life between O. M., Otha Marse, Marse, > and Sam without getting into any tangles. (And I've no CLUE where his > parents came up with that one!) > > Karen > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NICKNAME-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ End of NICKNAME Digest, Vol 1, Issue 2 ************************************** ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1872 / Virus Database: 2092/4625 - Release Date: 11/18/11

    11/18/2011 11:51:07
    1. Re: [NICKNAME] Not first but early
    2. Ron Mitchell
    3. Reminds me of commercial on WMAQ Chicago way back when people listened to radio regularily. Seems a fellow named Billy Ray Joe Bob owned a business. By the time he got the name out when people called they got discouraged and hung up. After hearing some commercials on the radio, he changed his name to Joe Bob, business picked up immensly. As I said just a commercial touting the advantages of radio advertising. And yes, we southerners did our thing with names: Billie Ray, Jim Bob, Billie Joe, etc. Speaking of Otha. I served with a sailor, Otha Leon XXXX. I guess if someone called me Ronald, I would think they were mad at me. Ron Submarine Vet. On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Karen Isaacson Leverich wrote: > More people have signed on! Welcome! Though there aren't that many of > us yet, it'd take some work to get a good thread going like back on > ROOTS-L. > >> Yes as you suggest, all short for Ronald. I had been called Ronnie >> all my life and thought that was my name. I even got my SS card >> using 'Ronnie' so I still get mail from SS and my medical insurer >> addressed to Ronnie D. I got a copy of my birth certificate and >> found out I'm Ronald. > > So you'd know first hand of the problems (if any) of using nicknames > in legal records, though I suppose we'll have to wait and consult your > great-grandchildren about whether or how that introduced difficulties > into their genealogical research. > > My husband's father was Bill Joe Leverich (you might guess this was > a southern family, and you'd be right). His birth certificate, > however, > had him "Billy Jo" and (this was a problem when he enlisted for WWII) > female. So he applied for a new birth certificate and got the name > changed to "Bill Joe". One might assume his real name was William > Joseph, > and that Bill Joe was a nickname, but not so. > > Now I don't know if Bill Joe had to go to court for a legal name > change > from Billy Jo or if he just walked in to Oklahoma vital statistics and > no problem, it was done: I'll have to ask. I do know my grandfather > switched back and forth all his life between O. M., Otha Marse, Marse, > and Sam without getting into any tangles. (And I've no CLUE where his > parents came up with that one!) > > Karen > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NICKNAME-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/18/2011 04:31:46
    1. Re: [NICKNAME] Not first but early
    2. Ron Mitchell
    3. Yes as you suggest, all short for Ronald. I had been called Ronnie all my life and thought that was my name. I even got my SS card using 'Ronnie' so I still get mail from SS and my medical insurer addressed to Ronnie D. I got a copy of my birth certificate and found out I'm Ronald. Have a great Thanksgiving!! Ron or Whatever Submarine Vet. On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Karen Isaacson Leverich wrote: > You're an early adopter, Ron (short for Ronald?) ... no one else has > arrived yet. We should be good after getting featured in the RootsWeb > Review ... which doesn't come out until next month, oh well, LOL! > > Karen > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NICKNAME-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/18/2011 01:34:20
    1. Re: [NICKNAME] Not first but early
    2. Karen Isaacson Leverich
    3. More people have signed on! Welcome! Though there aren't that many of us yet, it'd take some work to get a good thread going like back on ROOTS-L. > Yes as you suggest, all short for Ronald. I had been called Ronnie all > my life and thought that was my name. I even got my SS card using > 'Ronnie' so I still get mail from SS and my medical insurer addressed to > Ronnie D. I got a copy of my birth certificate and found out I'm > Ronald. So you'd know first hand of the problems (if any) of using nicknames in legal records, though I suppose we'll have to wait and consult your great-grandchildren about whether or how that introduced difficulties into their genealogical research. My husband's father was Bill Joe Leverich (you might guess this was a southern family, and you'd be right). His birth certificate, however, had him "Billy Jo" and (this was a problem when he enlisted for WWII) female. So he applied for a new birth certificate and got the name changed to "Bill Joe". One might assume his real name was William Joseph, and that Bill Joe was a nickname, but not so. Now I don't know if Bill Joe had to go to court for a legal name change from Billy Jo or if he just walked in to Oklahoma vital statistics and no problem, it was done: I'll have to ask. I do know my grandfather switched back and forth all his life between O. M., Otha Marse, Marse, and Sam without getting into any tangles. (And I've no CLUE where his parents came up with that one!) Karen

    11/18/2011 12:28:32
    1. [NICKNAME] Not first but early
    2. Ron Mitchell
    3. Thanks Karen. I just had to subscribe to this list. Can't wait for the traffic to begin. Cheers, Ron/Ronnie/Ronboy, etc

    11/17/2011 03:24:10
    1. [NICKNAME] I may not be first but I'm early
    2. Ron Mitchell
    3. Just checking in. Ron/Ronnie/ronboy all short for Ronald. Submarine Vet.

    11/17/2011 02:47:29
    1. Re: [NICKNAME] Not first but early
    2. Karen Isaacson Leverich
    3. You're an early adopter, Ron (short for Ronald?) ... no one else has arrived yet. We should be good after getting featured in the RootsWeb Review ... which doesn't come out until next month, oh well, LOL! Karen

    11/17/2011 12:30:47