Karen, Here is my source for Thomas SLEEPER and his children. I must admit that I have not been as thorough on this line as I have on some of my other families, but this should be a reliable source. From: Sybil Noyes, Charles Thornton Libby, Walter Goodwin Davis, "Genealogical Dictionary of Maine and New Hampshire", Reprint, Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1983, p. 638: "Sleeper, Thomas, weaver, Hampton, bot from Christopher Lawson 15 July 1645 a 5 a. ho.-lot in Hampt. betw. Thomas Leavitt and Goodm. Marion, but in Oct. 1649 liv. on 1 a. of Henry Dow's land that had been deeded to Thomas Nudd. In June 1657 he bot Joseph Peaslee's ho. in Haverh. and mo. there, selling out in Hampt.; sold at Haverh. in 1659 and bot at Hampt. again in 1660. In his later life, Dow says, his was the frontier ho. on what is now Shaw's Hill, that part of the town being called Sleeper-town, since corrupted to Sleepy-town. Jury 1651, 1662; gr.j. 1670,1673,1676,1677. Freed from training in Oct. 1665. Ag ±75 in Feb. 1682-3 [Lists....] He d. 30 July 1696. His w. Joanna (±33 in Sept 1656) d. 4 Feb 1702-3 (Kingston rec.) [Lists....] Ch: Elizabeth, m. 1st Abraham Perkins(2), m. 2d Alex. Denham, m. 3d Richard Smith. Mary, m. 15 May 1667 Gershom Elkins(4). Ruth, b. 1 June 1650. Ag. ±21 or 22, she depo. in Dec 1671 that she had liv. at Moses Gilman's, but went back to her fa.'s ho. in Hampt. She m. Aretas Leavitt(1). John, b. 10 Sept. 1652. Naomi, b. 15 Apr. 1655, m. Timothy Blake(5). Moses b. Haverh. 13 Mar. 1657-8; adm. to fa. 7 Sept. 1680. Aaron, b. at Hampt. 20 Feb. 1660-1. Luther, b. 14 Nov. 1668, d. 19 May 1670." There are also sections on his sons John and Aaron that I did not transcribe. The portion I transcribed as "[Lists...]", refer in the book to documents on which the name of the individual appears. I did not transcribe them because they are just a list of numbers keyed to document descriptions at the beginning of the book. They are not usually particularly enlightening, but I will dig them out if you are interested. I also have the following concerning your Elizabeth TOWLE: >From William Haslet Jones, "Philip Towle, Hampton, New Hampshire: His English Origins and Some American Descendants", Heritage Books, 1995, p. 40: "143. James Towle [Caleb 57] He was born 31 Dec. 1747 at Chester and died 31 Dec 1825 at Danville, N.H. He married 13 Sep. 1768 Abigail Colbey at Hampstead dau. of Enoch & Sarah (Sargent) Colbey. She born 19 Dec. 1749 at Salisbury and died 12 Feb. 1820 . Mass. Res. at Danville, N.H. Children: 296. Elizabeth, b. 6 Jan. 1770, md. Jeremiah Elkins. 297. Esther, b. 7 Aug. 1772. 298. James, b 7 July 1777, md. 6 June 1799 Sally Nash. 299. Nehemiah, b. 1 Mar. 1781, d. 1861, md. Abigail Bean. 300. Abigail, b. 26 Dec. 1783, twin, d. 13 Jan. 1864. 301. Calib, b. 26 Dec. 1783, d. 13 Apr. 1859, md. 9 Apr. 1809 Esther West. 302. John M., b. 19 Dec. 1802." James TOWLE was first cousin to my Samuel Towle who married Rachel ELKINS. I have not found Jones' book to be terribly reliable. In fact, if his treatment of my ancestor, Matthias Towle, is any example, it is totally untrustworthy. The portion of the book dealing with Philip Towle's possible English ancestry is the author's own research, but the portion concerning his descendants is a compilation from several secondary sources, most of which are over a century old. Mr. Jones can't be blamed for mistakes in genealogies written before he was born, but he can be taken to tasks for his failure to cite those sources properly, or for failing to note when primary source evidence clearly contradicts the conclusions reached in those works. Thus, I would use this source with some skepticism. For example, the 19 year gap between the birth dates of the last two children listed above looks highly suspicious to me. In your original message you asked if anyone had proof the Elizabeth's ancestry was as given above. This reference certainly is not "proof". Do you have any particular reason to believe that what is given above is not accurate? Other sources I have used: ELKINS: GDMNH (as cited above); Dow's "History of Hampton, NH"; (The genealogies in Dow are online at the Hampton Library: http://www.hampton.lib.nh.us/hampton/history.htm ) TOWLE: Dow's Hampton. COLBY: Hoyt's "Old Families of Salisbury and Amesbury." Let me know if you need look-ups on any of these families. Enjoy, Clark Bagnall -----Original Message----- From: KLKimball@aol.com [mailto:KLKimball@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 11:12 PM To: NHROCKIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Collateral Lines: STEWART, TAYLOR, TOWLE, BROWN, SLEEPER Hi all- I thought I'd post my collateral lines - it's been awhile. I'm looking for the parents of Polly (Mary) STEWART, b. 21 Feb 1790 in Kingston. She married William Kimball and ended up in Vienna, ME. Another Kimball wife was William's mother, Dorothy TAYLOR. I know next to nothing about her. She was probably born around 1745 and died 7 Sep 1817. She married John Kimball of Poplin, so I'm hoping that's where she was from. Can you tell I'm grasping at straws? The others are in the ELKINS line. Does anyone have proof that the parents of Elizabeth TOWLE (b. 6 Jan 1770 in Danville) were James Towle and Abigail Colbey? I need her siblings, too, if she had any. Elizabeth m. Jeremiah Elkins. Jeremiah's mother, Ann BROWN was the daughter of Abraham Brown, but I don't know her mother. Ann was born 23 Nov 1717, but I'm not sure where - Hampton, maybe? She m. Capt. Thomas Elkins. The last of my mystery women is Mary SLEEPER (I love that name!). Mary was the daughter of Thomas Sleeper, but I don't have any dates, other than her marriage to Gershom Elkins on 15 May 1667. Any dates, places, siblings, etc. on these ladies would be wonderful! Thanks. Karen in California klkimball@aol.com ______________________________