Carolyn G Depp wrote: > What documentation do you have that Isaac was really born as early as > 1808? Could Mehitable have been his mother instead of Sarah?? > > ~ Carolyn Depp Hi Carolyn, According to William C. White's Rev. War Pension file, (I have a copy) he had a son aged 14 in 1820 (born abt. 1806). According to the Portsmouth Journal dated 12 Apr 1845, his son was born 1808. I probably have a copy of that in my files if you want me to look for it and make a copy. Carol
There were two Mehitable Whites. JOhn Simpson's daughter was Mehetabel Sheafe Simpson who married Robert White 12 June 1773 per "copy of Births of Capt. Robert White" from original made by Thomas Frost 27 May 1854. Mehitabel (different spellings, different documents) is mentioned in deeds & probate records #5629, roll #9, 1791; #0231-0375 1812; #0203 - 0460 1814; and #0253 - 0234 1827. I have copies of those deeds/probate records. She is listed in them as the widow of Robert White. I'd be glad to send you a transcript of them. You said you found an ad placed by Mehitable (Bell) White. Were you only speculating that her maiden name was Bell? It doesn't say Bell in the ad. Robert White died before 16 Mar 1791. Mehitable Sheafe Simpson White died 13 Sep 1827 and is buried in the Frost Cemetery in New CAstle. John Simpson's will was entered for probate 16 Jun 1802. (per his will). Did you want sources for all those facts? I can provide them if needed. I need to go do something right now. I'll get back to this asap. thanks for all your help. Carol Carolyn G Depp wrote: > Today I found a classified ad placed by Mehitable (BELL) WHITE in the > "Portsmouth Oracle" newspaper which establishes that she was very much > alive on Feb 3, 1807. . . . > > Classified ad in the "Portsmouth Oracle", paper dated 14 Feb 1807, > Vol XVIII, issue 20, p4. > "All persons that have demands against the Estate of John > SIMPSON, late of New Castle, mariner, deceased, are requested to > present their Accounts to the Subscriber for settlement -- And all > indebted to said Estate are desired to make immediate payment to > --Mehitable WHITE, Administratrix of said estate. New Castle - Feb 3, > 1807" > > I also checked and found no death notice for Mehitable in the same > newspaper between that Feb 1807 announcement and the end of April > 1808. If Mehitable's husband, William Cooper WHITE, married his > second wife Sarah MITCHELL before the birth of son Isaac in 1808 we > are cutting things *pretty* close..... > > What documentation do you have that Isaac was really born as early as > 1808? Could Mehitable have been his mother instead of Sarah?? > > ~ Carolyn Depp
Today I found a classified ad placed by Mehitable (BELL) WHITE in the "Portsmouth Oracle" newspaper which establishes that she was very much alive on Feb 3, 1807. . . . Classified ad in the "Portsmouth Oracle", paper dated 14 Feb 1807, Vol XVIII, issue 20, p4. "All persons that have demands against the Estate of John SIMPSON, late of New Castle, mariner, deceased, are requested to present their Accounts to the Subscriber for settlement -- And all indebted to said Estate are desired to make immediate payment to --Mehitable WHITE, Administratrix of said estate. New Castle - Feb 3, 1807" I also checked and found no death notice for Mehitable in the same newspaper between that Feb 1807 announcement and the end of April 1808. If Mehitable's husband, William Cooper WHITE, married his second wife Sarah MITCHELL before the birth of son Isaac in 1808 we are cutting things *pretty* close..... What documentation do you have that Isaac was really born as early as 1808? Could Mehitable have been his mother instead of Sarah?? ~ Carolyn Depp
Dear List: For all you NH Drake descendants out there- we have now established the 37 Y-chromosome DNA signature for Robert Drake of Hampton, NH. My 7C1R submitted his sample to Family Tree and it's a 37 marker match for my Drake uncle!!! He and I both descend from Abraham Drake and his wife Theodate Robie, through their sons Abraham (him) and Samuel (me). We share a direct line from that Abraham all the way back to the time of surnames. Now we need to find some guys over in England to test to see how the profile has changed since our likely ancestor Nicholas Drake d. 1302 Great Waltham, Essex, England. By the way, if you share this Robert Drake in your family tree, you are a completely separate Drake, not related to Sir Francis Drake of most famous name or the Drakes of Devon. We are our own Drakes!! The perfect example of how different people adopted a surname around the time that surnames began, and developed completely distinct lines which share the name. If anyone wants information regarding Robert Drake of Hampton 1581-1668 I'm willing to share. Constance
Descendants of JOSEPH HAGGETT Generation No. 1 1. JOSEPH3 HAGGETT (TIMOTHY2, MOSES1) was born Abt. 1711 in Bradford, Essex County, Massachusetts, and died October 13, 1778 in Bradford, Essex County, Massachusetts. He married LOVE SLEEPER November 29, 1739 in Kingston, Rockingham County, New Hampshire, daughter of JOSEPH SLEEPER and SARAH HUTCHINS. She was born November 11, 1717 in Kingston, Rockingham County, New Hampshire. Children of JOSEPH HAGGETT and LOVE SLEEPER are: i. JOSEPH4 HAGGETT, b. September 13, 1740, Bradford, Essex County, Massachusetts; d. 1741, Bradford, Essex County, Massachusetts. ii. MOSES HAGGETT, b. March 01, 1743/44, Bradford, Essex County, Massachusetts; m. ESTHER LAKEMAN; b. March 16, 1746/47, Bradford, Essex County, Massachusetts. iii. ANNA HAGGETT, b. January 11, 1747/48, Bradford, Essex County, Massachusetts. iv. BENJAMIN HAGGETT, b. December 13, 1745, Bradford, Essex County, Massachusetts. v. DOLLE HAGGETT, b. July 21, 1753, Bradford, Essex County, Massachusetts. vi. JOSIAH HAGGETT, b. April 17, 1742, Bradford, Essex County, Massachusetts. vii. MOLLE HAGGETT, b. October 01, 1751, Bradford, Essex County, Massachusetts. viii. SARAH HAGGETT, b. July 21, 1753, Bradford, Essex County, Massachusetts. ix. TIMOTHY HAGGETT, b. July 11, 1758, Bradford, Essex County, Massachusetts. ====================== KINGSTON NEW HAMPSHIRE Early Families Patriots & Soldiers Kathleen E. Hosier HERITAGE BOOKS, INC. Copyright 1993 Kathleen E. Hosier Published 1993 Page 174. JOSEPH SLEEPER, b. Hampton, NH 14 Jun 1690 son of AARON & ELIZABETH (SHAW) SLEEPER (HMVR P12): d. Kingston, NH 5 Apr 1753 (NHVR) : m Kingston, NH 31 Dec 1713 SARAH HUTCHINS (KTR), b Bradford, MA 2 Oct 1694 dau of JOHN & ELIZABETH (HAZELTINE) HUTCHINS (BdVR). JOSEPH had land laid out to him in Kingston 9 Mar 1711. He belonged to Kingston in 1725 when REV CLARK took charge of the church. In 1730 he signed a petition regarding the township of Kingston. CHILDREN: born Kingston, NH (KTR) 1. NEHEMIAH, b. 11 Nov 1714: d. Kingston, NH 6 May 1730 (NHGR 2:131) 2. LOVE, b. 20 Jun 1717: m. Kingston, NH 29 Nov 1739 JOSEPH HAGGIT (NHGR 3:40) 3. (SON-eldest), d. Kingston, NH 9 May 1732 (NHGR 2:132) - cannot be HEZEKIAH as he is mentioned in his father's will) 4. HEZEKIAH, b 17 Jan 1724/5: m. Kingston, NH 7 May 1747 MARTHA WOOD (KTR) 5. WILLIAM, bpt 11 sep 1726 (NHGR 2:47) : m (1) Kingston, NH 14 Mar 1745 DOROTHY (ROWELL) BLAISDELL (KTR): m (2) RUTH CHOATE? (PRNH 6:300) 6. ANNE, m. Kingston, NH 31 Oct 1751 JOHN PEARSON (NHGR 3:45) ========================== Looking for descendants........................
Books are called secondary sources for a reason. They are NEVER as reliable as primary [aka, original] sources [birth-marriage-death certificates; deeds; depositions, probate records; wills, etc.]. Bet your last dollar that ALL genealogy books are subject to errors of commission and omission no matter who compiled them. For that matter, even primary sources are subject to human error. But I use secondary sources anyway. We all do. At least they provide clues, albeit sometimes erroneous clues, to guide future researchers. Dick Marston --- Merry Lu Zeller <[email protected]> wrote: > Would anyone tell me please, if an ancestor is > listed in Savage, Little, > Rollins, Farmer, Torrey, Stearns, and Eastmon's > books, would it be > likely that any original information had been > skipped over? > > Thank, > z > > Merry Lu Zeller > email:[email protected] > > > ==== NHROCKIN Mailing List ==== > Rockingham County, NH, GenWeb Archives, > [ > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nh/rockingham/rockingh.htm > ]
Would anyone tell me please, if an ancestor is listed in Savage, Little, Rollins, Farmer, Torrey, Stearns, and Eastmon's books, would it be likely that any original information had been skipped over? Thank, z Merry Lu Zeller email:[email protected]
Carol: Do you know when William Cooper WHITE married (2) Sarah MITCHELL? I'm assuming that it's sometime between the birth of Thomas B. WHITE (son of Mehitable) in 1803 and the birth of Isaac WHITE (son of Sarah) in 1808. Also--do you have *any* further info on Mehitable BELL, first wife of William C. WHITE? Thanks! ~ Carolyn Depp
Sorry to be so delayed in my response to our joint discussion of the various Thomas BEALs and the connections with Mary C. WHITE, Grace & Rebecca YEATON, etc. Had to put my research on a back-burner for a bit.... I think the "key" to whether or not the Thomas BEAL (call him #1) who married Mary C. WHITE and the Thomas BEAL (call him #2) who married Grace YEATON are the same individual is whether or not there is any evidence that Mary C. WHITE died before 1827. Do any of you have any evidence one way or the other on this?? Carol, documentation for the marriage of Thomas (#2)--in addition to the reference you found in the Rev. War pension summary--is as follows: New Castle, NH Town Records, Vol 3 (1756-1858), p148. FHL #15240. "Mr. Thomas BEALS & Miss Grace YEATON, both of New Castle, publ and cert given - 5 Jan 1827" Apparently Thomas (#2) died before Summer 1840, because he is not on US 1840 Census of New Castle, NH when wife Grace is shown as head of household, and not shown later on the US 1860 Census of New Castle, NH with wife (probably widow) Grace and dau Abby. The date for his death which you found in the Rev.War pension summary, Carol, fits nicely with this assumption: 26 Apr 1831. The BEAL(S) family is only rather collateral to me, as my main concerns are the BELL, AMAZEEN, MELOON, YEATON, etc. lines. But these New Castle area families are so "tangled" that you really have to research them all to get anything straightened out. I find I had two children for "Thomas BEAL" (not the Jr.) and wonder now if the first one, "Mary", might actually be a daughter of the "Thomas #1" marriage and only the second, Abigail, be the daughter of the "Thomas #2" marriage. (Her 1823 birthdate is further evidence that Grace YEATON's husband had a previous wife and/or relationship...) (1) Mary J. BEAL, born 20 Aug 1823 at New Castle, NH; died 18 Oct 1869 at New Castle, NH; married 9 Oct 1845 at New Castle, NH to William A. MELOON (1823-1891), son of William Amazeen MELOON and Mary Elizabeth LEAR. She was a "Seamstress". Sources: MARRIAGE: New Castle Town Records, Vol 3 (1756-1858). FHL #15240, p186 US 1850 Census of New Castle, NH [with husband and family] - extract on request US 1860 Census of New Castle, NH [with husband and family] - extract on request DEATH: "New Castle Record Book - With Supplementary Portsmouth and New Castle Cemetery Inscriptions", by John E. Frost, p3. 1956. FHL #250,331 - Item 1 "William A. MELOON died 9 Jan 1891, aged 67 years, 4 months" "Mary J., wife of William A., died 18 Oct 1869, aged 46 years, 2 months" DEATH: Vital Records of New Castle, NH (From Town Clerk's vol 13) 1756 - 1876. FHL #989,196 - Item 1, p5. "Mary J. MELOON, age 46, died 18 Oct 1869 of consumption lasting 1 yr, born New Castle" (2) Abigail A. BEAL, born 10 Apr 1827 at New Castle, NH; died 31 Aug 1891 at New Castle, NH; married [I don't have a date] to John TARLTON (1828-1863), son of Capt Elias TARLTON & Ann J. YEATON. Married (2) 2 June 1878 at Kittery, ME to John AMAZEEN (1815-1904) son of William Christopher AMAZEEN and Jane JONES and his second wife. Sources: US 1840 Census, New Castle, NH - with mother Grace as 'head of household' US 1860 Census, New Castle, NH - with mother Grace US 1880 Census, New Castle, NH - with 2nd husband John AMAZEEN MARRIAGE: (2) Vital Records of New Castle, NH (from Town Clerk vol 13). FHL #989,196 - Item 4 (1878-1896) "John AMAZEEN of New Castle, Pilot, b. New Castle, 2nd marr, s/o Wm. & Jane AMAZEEN (both b. New Castle) married 2 June 1878 at Kittery, ME by Abner C. Hall of Kittery, ME to Abby TARLTON of New Castle, 51, housekeeper, b. New Castle, 2nd marr, d/o Thomas BEAL and [mother deceased]" DEATH: "New Castle Record Book", by John E. Frost (1956). New Castle Cemetery, p12 FHL #250,331 - Item 1] "Abbie, wife of John AMAZEEN, 1827 - 1891" DEATH: Vital Records of New Castle, NH (from Town Clerk vol 13). FHL #989,196 - Item 4 (1878-1896) "Died 31 Aug 1891 at New Castle - Abby AMAZEEN, age 64y, 4m, 21d [ie: b. 10 Apr 1827] f, w, married, housekeeper, b. New Cstle, d/o Thomas BEAL & Grace YEATON of New Castle" In regards to the "Thomas BEAL, Jr." who was the son of Thomas BEAL (#1) and Mary C. WHITE, I have the following additional documentation: New Castle, NH Town Records, Vol 3 (1756-1858), p288 FHL #15240. Thomas BEALS, b. 8 Mar 1814 Rebecca YEATON, b. 17 Sep 1818, d/o Barnabus YEATON Lyman, b. 6 Jan 1838 Frances E., b. 28 May 1845 MARRIAGE: New Castle, NH Town Records, Vol 3 (1756-1858), p173 & 319. FHL #15240. "Thomas BEALS & Rebecca YEATON, both of New Castle, publ & cert given - 30 Dec 1837" If any of you have any further info on Mary C. WHITE, wife of Thomas BEAL (#1), it might clinch the above 'assumptions' for us... ~ Carolyn Depp
From "Genealogical Dictionary of Maine and New Hampshire" by Sybil Noyes, Charles Libby and Walter Goodwin Davis comes the following clarification: "PISCATAQUA: The pioneers recognized two settlements--Upper and Lower--each taking in the settlers on both sides of the river. Among mariners, the name persisted for the whole river. See Portsmouth, Kittery and Dover". Dover (NH) was known as Upper Piscataqua before it was incorporated as "Dover" in 1640. The Maine side of the Piscataqua River was early called "Piscataqua" below Kittery [ie: the neighborhood opposite Dover Point] and Newichawannock above Kittery. Later the whole area about 25 miles long was included in Kittery township by the river. Localities along this stretch included Braveboat Harbor, River's Mouth ("The Point"), Spruce Creek, Crooked Lane, Great Cove, Boiling Rock, Long Reach, Kittery, Cold Harbor, Sturgeon Creek, Thompson's Point (South Berwick line), Newichawannock, Quamphegan, Salmon Falls (on the Berwick line opposite Rollinsford), and Great Falls (Berwick and Sommersworth). Hope this helps. ~ Carolyn Depp ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 9:03 AM Subject: [NHROCKIN] Town of Piscataqua in Rockingham County NH > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Richards, Ruggles > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/iQB.2ACE/716 > > Message Board Post: > > I have data for John Richards dying about 1755 in Piscataqua. I cannot > find this on any map. Does anyone know if this town actually existed and > was renamed? Much of my ancestors came from Hillsborrough County so I am > familar with the river by this same name. Thanks in advance for any info. > > > ==== NHROCKIN Mailing List ==== > Rockingham County, NH, GenWeb Archives, > [ http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nh/rockingham/rockingh.htm ] > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/iQB.2ACE/716.1 Message Board Post: Hi, Piscataqua is another name for Portsmouth. Not the official name, of course, but I have heard it referred to as such. Of course, it's also possible that he drowned in "the Piscataqua," meaning the river. Regards, Ginny
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Mace, Smart, Felker, West, Miles Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/iQB.2ACE/717 Message Board Post: Seek ancestors of: George Mace b c 1805; d Raymond, 29 June 1834 w Martha/Patty (Smart) Mace living in Brentwood, New Hampshire when she had an affair with Elias Felker resulting in the birth of Jeremiah S. Felker in early 1838, whom she named for her father. She later married (2) probably Nottingham, New Hampshire, 13 July 1840, Jonathan West of Poplin, New Hampshire, who requested reimbursement from the town of Raymond for the support of his wife's son (Jeremiah S. Felker). She married, while residing Poplin, (3) Raymond, New Hampshire, 27 September 1848, Joseph T. Miles of Brentwood, New Hampshire. Any help?
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Richards, Ruggles Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/iQB.2ACE/716 Message Board Post: I have data for John Richards dying about 1755 in Piscataqua. I cannot find this on any map. Does anyone know if this town actually existed and was renamed? Much of my ancestors came from Hillsborrough County so I am familar with the river by this same name. Thanks in advance for any info.
Dear Bill & list, I am getting very close to publishing the vital records of Plaistow to 1900 with supplements of interest. I can give you the siblings of your Isaac Smith, but the records do not give his marriage or death. Also, there is no stone in either of the older Plaistow cemeteries. (I realize you did not indicate that this occurred in Plaistow.) It is interesting to note that there is one Plaistow VR book missing for the approximate years abt 1810 to 1840. Sorry this isn't what you were hoping for. I would be happy to supply Plaistow information for anyone interested, just ask. Mary Ellen Moulton Plaistow, NH
Isaac Smith, son of Stephen and Martha (Harriman) Smith was born in Plaistow 29 Nov 1815. Does anyone have any further information on him (e.g., spouse, death date) Thanks for any help. Bill -- William F. (Bill) Prokasy Home Page: http://www.arches.uga.edu/~wprokasy/home.htm
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/iQB.2ACE/715 Message Board Post: Has anyone studied the earliest settlers (when chartered) ranges and division and can actually understand it? Trying to figure out how I can find the settlers properties from the old Gilmantown map. Any help would be appreciated. Ricky
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/iQB.2ACE/714 Message Board Post: Hi am related ro all these families all from the 1600;s s there a map going back to this time with names,
Hi John Bradford and family moved from Beverly, MA to Pelham/Salem in about 1758-60. His wife was Elizabeth Leach Bradford. Does anyone know where they are buried and what their dates of death are? Looking to find age of Elizabeth at death to clarify how old she was when they married. Thanks! Sue Windsor CT
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Armstrong Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/iQB.2ACE/713 Message Board Post: I am looking for information on Moses Lester Armstrong. He lived in Derry, NH in 1906 and 1916 and he was a photographer. He was born in MA in 1871 to John and Julia (Ford) Armstrong from Ireland. Any info appreciated. thanks Elaine Shuman
Am interested in obtaining info on William and Ruth, such as birth, marriage and death dates and locations. Also would be interested in the names of their children and their children's spouses, and also the same data for their children and the childrens spouses, birth amrriage and death info.