Does anyone have information about William Batchelder Bradbury (1816-1868) who composed Jesus Loves Me, Just as I Am, Without One Plea, My Hope is Built on Nothing Less, and Savior, Like a Shepherd Lead Us? With this middle name he must be related to the well-known family. After hearing these hymns for many years, I finally noticed this in the Presbyterian Hymnal and am curious. Thank you, Lynn

I am searching for the maiden name of the Elizabeth who married Obadiah Marston born September 18, 1710. The line eventually connects to my Fogg family. DM Rauch

>______________________________X-Message: #4 >Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 18:00:52 -0500 >From: "Richard H. Blake" <ricblake@ezwv.com> >To: NHROCKIN-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <36D727A4.3BEAD89D@ezwv.com> >Subject: Re: How are we related? Let me count the ways! >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Sarah Shaw Tatounova wrote: >> >> I recently discovered that I'm descended from Reuben Sanborn and Elizabeth >> Sleeper (their daughter Anna Sanborn married George Banfill, the son of John >> Banfill and Mary Lear)-- which means I'm probably related to just about >> anyone who ever had an ancestor in Hampton... >--snip > >If one of them Sleeper's was Thomas Sleeper (b. abt 1616 d. 30 Jul >1696), daughter Naomi Sleeper (b. 15 Apr 1655 in Hampton); Naomi married >Timothy Blake Dec 20 1677 in Hampton... then we is watered-down >cuzzins... Naomi is my 7th great grandmother. > >-- >Richard H. Blake >2922 Thomas Avenue >Huntington, WV 25705-2810 >Web Page: http://www.ezwv.com/~ricblake/index.html > >______________________________X-Message: #5 >Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 16:30:27 -0800 >From: "Jack W. Ralph" <nvjack@intercomm.com> >To: NHROCKIN-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <00a901be61e8$aa1eba40$2a2ca0d1@dell> >Subject: Re: How are we related? Let me count the ways! >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Richard, > >My 7th great grandmother, Mehitable Sleeper, the first girl born in >Kingston, was your Naomi's niece. > >Jack W. Ralph >Carson City, NV >nvjack@intercomm.com >Web Page: http://users.intercomm.com/nvjack/sleeper/sleeper.htm Yes, my Elizabeth Sleeper was another descendant of Thomas Sleeper, b. 1616. (Speaking of which... I've seen two different wives listed for him as the mother of the 8 children-- one Elizabeth Sherburne and one Joan someone-- anyone know which is correct?) My line goes: Thomas Sleeper m. Elizabeth or Joan Aaron Sleeper m. Elizabeth Shaw (not related to my paternal Shaw line, though) Moses Sleeper m. Margaret Sanborn Elizabeth Sleeper m. Reuben Sanborn Anna Sanborn m. George Banfill Benjamin Banfill m. Sarah Mills Benjamin Banfill jr. m. Sarah Place Solon Banfill m. Anna Carson Hail William Hail Banfill-- my paternal grandfather Since Reuben Sanborn was the son of Reuben Sanborn Sr. and Sarah Sanborn I have three separate Sanborn lines-- the main one runs: __ Sanborn m. Ann Bachiller John Sanborn m. Mary Tuck Joseph Sanborn m. Mary Gove Reuben Sanborn m. Sarah Sanborn Sarah's ancestry runs from another son of John Sanborn and Mary Tuck, Benjamin Sanborn (which is where my Benjamin Banfill got his name), who married Sarah Worcester (no information on her ancestry). Margaret Sanborn, wife of Moses Sleeper, was the daughter of Jonathan Sanborn and Elizabeth Sherburne. Jonathan was the son of John Sanborn and his second wife, Mary Page. I've got at least two Sherburne lines, as well-- Elizabeth Sherburne, above, was the daughter of Samuel Sherburne and Love Hutchins. His sister Elizabeth was the grandmother of Mary Lear, who married John Banfill. While there is no positive proof, George Banfill is believed to have been one of their sons. The dates for the Sanborn and Sleeper families and many of the Sherburnes are all on-line at the Hampton library site: http://www.hampton.lib.nh.us/ and, I think, Dick Marston's site as well. Greetings to my many cousins! -- Sarah Shaw Tatounova ************* http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/2064/ - My home page- focus on genealogy, history http://www.webwanderers.com - An ever-growing travel web site. **************

Thank you very much for your response. You have been very helpful and informative. I finally found the Winthrop site that placed Thomas Beard in Salem in 1629 I've included the notes from the site: http://members.aol.com/WinthropSQ/salem1.htm "The Residents of Salem The First Town of the Massachusetts Bay Commonwealth From Original Records up to the Year 1651 Part 1 of 4, being residents whose surnames begin with the letters A, B, C, or D. This table contains information gathered from J.B. Felt's "Annals of Salem" 2nd edition, 2 vols., Salem, 1845. Felt's sources were the original colonial records, many of which have since been lost. BEARD, Thomas Mr. arrived with Rev. Francis Higginson and the GCMB fleet, 1629" Are you familiar with this source and its reliability? Again, I appreciate the time you have spent in helping me sort out my family. Mike Baird

HI PENNY Little Harbor is in front of the Wentworth Hotel in Rye. All the best MR.C

Hi Mike and List, Sorry to be slow in replying to yours of Sunday regarding sources for Thomas Beard. Have looked into the matter and have this to report: The 1629 reference to a Thomas Beard who was recommended to the Massachusetts Bay Company by Mr. Simon Whetcombe and who, as part of the deal, would receive a grant of 50 acres of land, took place in England, not in New England. Because no one of the name is seen in New England until the 1640s, it is considered that the 1629 man did not come (Nathaniel B. Shurtleff, Records of The Governor and Company of the Massachusetts Bay in New England, Vol. 1 [1628-1641], published in Boston, 1853, pp. 404-405). It would be extremely unlikely that someone could spend that many years in New England and not appear in some record; it would also be unlikely that he would be here until 1643 before becoming a freeman enabling him to vote, especially if he was a property owner. Consequently, I am confident that we are dealing with two different individuals unless it can be shown at some point that the 1629 man stayed in England, then later rekindled his interest in the Colonies and came some years later after all. That he came in 1629 leaving no record of himself for well over a decade is virtually impossible. As to the Topographical Dictionary of 2885 English Emigrants to New England, 1620-1650, this is not considered a reliable source, and indeed anyone using it will see that it contradicts itself in many places. One needs to understand how this was produced. After Col. Banks died, Mr. Brownell, a friend of his, took Banks's scattered, unedited notes which he had made over the years for his own amusement as clues to English origins of early New England settlers, and just put them together and published them in Col. Banks's name, thinking he was honoring his friend. Probably Banks would have been horrified if he knew that all those rough notes were out there for the world to use, as he must have known that they were internally inconsistent and had just been made for his own use. No editing of them was done at all. I have not seen the Family Tree Maker or Winthrop Society www notes you mention, so cannot comment. If these are submissions by subscribers, then one would have to look at their sources to evaluate them. Savage and Pope were both major accomplishments for their time, but newer research over the years has shown that they cannot be relied on too heavily for accuracy any more. They were brilliant accomplishments back then, but do not pass the tests required now for authoritative scholarship. Nevertheless they are good for clues, but should not be used as sources; statements found in them always need to be studied further and verified. "Primary sources" refers to original records, as opposed to published copies or extracts of them, or any form of synthesized material based on them. For example, an original will or probate file is a primary source, whereas a genealogy or computer database which claims to have seen and used the will or probate material is a secondary source. Some secondary sources are very carefully done, but many others are not, and one can always misinterpret evidence. Therefore, recourse to the original, primary source is always advised when there is conflicting information or any doubt whatsoever about conclusions. Fortunately many original source records are now available on microform and in scholarly record series (such as Shurtleff, mentioned above), so it is not always necessary to handle the fragile old papers themselves. I hope this is of interest to you and others on the list. Sorry to post all of this to the list at large, but since the previous e-mails were sent to everyone I thought I should continue to do so with this. The Thomas Beard who surfaced in the 1640s, and almost certainly had not been here long when he did, showed up in Dover actually, rather than Strawbery Banke (see Noyes, Libby and Davis, The Genealogical Dictionary of Maine and New Hampshire, p. 85). In fact, I do not see any connection between him or any of his children and what is now Rockingham County, except that one of his sons was jailed in Hampton at one point for hitting his wife in the head with a stave and threatening her life! Best wishes, George F. Sanborn Jr., F.A.S.G. The Great Migration Study Project New England Historic Genealogical Society Boston

My Nicolas Frost arrived in America around 1634. Then it is stated: Nicholas Frost with wife Bertha and sons Charles and John sailed as mentioned and landed at Little Harbor. Within the next two years he removed his family to the head of Sturgeon Creek in what is now Eliot, Maine. Does anyone know where LITTLE HARBOR was or is? I know Eliot is in York County Maine, but the families in this whole area were tied together and I thought maybe someone on this site could answer the question. Penny penhass@swbell.net

Hi Rooters Would like to add to the info that was sent about the LDS Family Search coming on line. I agree spread the word because it is one of the best research tool we have. Cannot take everything it says for granted, but then, we can`t with census reports either, but it gives good clues and more then not accurate. I would like to add that you may purchase IGI sheets from the FHC. I have been doing it for several years. I have accumalated all of New England, all of Canada and several other areas. The cost to purchase is 15 cents a sheet. Just need to write to The Family History Department 50 East North Temple Street Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 (801-240-1290) Ask them for an order form. If you have access to a microfiche reader they are well worth the cost. Also you do not need to be a member to purchase them. The only way for the microfilm right now is through one LDS Library to another. Sandy

Hello Rooters, This is a bit long winded but worth reading. PLEASE circulate, at least the address of the FAMILY SEARCH, to any roots-l you may belong so that the LDS will consider to keep it running. Thanks, Glenn ----- Begin Included Message ----- -----Original Message----- From: Virginia Ewing [mailto:vewing@ctesc.net] Sent: Monday, March 01, 1999 5:00 PM Subject: LDS FAMILY SEARCH COMING SOON As the director of a LDS Family History Center, I have received a notice from Salt Lake LDS FHL, announcing the Beta testing of Family Search on line. It is not yet up, a problem with a piece of equipment, but will be starting sometimes this month and will be up only a few weeks as a test run. If there is not a lot of interest it will be taken off and not put back on. So spread the word and keep trying to get through. When it comes on line the URL will be: www.familysearch.org I have not been told exactly what will be available but know at least the Ancestral File and Family History Library Catalog will be included. Family Search is the name of the program we have on CDs in all LDS FHCs. Some public libraries also have this program. FS includes the IGI, Ancestral File, Family History Library Catalog, Social Security Death Records, Koran and Vietnam war death records, and Scottish Church Records. For those of you not familiar with the various searches, the IGI is the International Genealogical Index. It includes, in alphabetical order, all of the names that have been sent to the Temples to have ordinances performed in their name. Names in the IGI are usually submitted by members, but not always. Non-members also submit their family names to get them into the IGI. Some of the marriages may have been part of extraction programs. The names were taken from courthouse records and checked and rechecked by several volunteers before being accepted as correct. Most people do try to send in accurate information but there are many mistakes. My advice is, always check the original source. Use the IGI to find where people with your surname would have lived and order the census and court records from that area. Ancestral File is Gedcoms of group and pedigree sheets sent in by members and non-members. The name and address of the submitter is included and hopefully will allow you to contact others working on your line. If the address is out of date sometimes a letter to the Membership dept. in Salt Lake will get you a correct address if the person was a member of the LDS church. Once again, the material is only as good as the research that went into it and some of it is pretty bad. Check it out before you 'adopt' it. If you find a mistake on Ancestral File, you can send in your corrections, along with your sources of proof, and it will be noted in the next update. The first submitter does not have to provide proof, but you do, if you are making a correction. You can add additions to a file, or submit a new file. You do not have to be a member to submit material. The Family History Library Catalog is a listing of every book, film and fiche available at the Salt Lake City LDS Family History Library. This allows us to find what is available for each locality, world-wide. It includes the FHL call numbers and a description of what is included in the film/fiche or book. The material from the books and film/fiche will not be on line. That is not something they can do, at this time. Hopefully it will be a possibility some time in the distant future. The film and fiche will still have to be ordered through FHC. Microfilm and microfiche are the property of the FHL and are sent into the care of the LDS FHC director and must remain under her/his care until returned. For this reason they are never allowed to be taken from the LDS FHC. Almost all of the microfilm and microfiche at the LDS Family History Library in Salt Lake City can be ordered into any LDS FHL, anywhere in the world, but there are a few exceptions. Copyright laws prevent them from using material without the written consent of the owner. Some of the film and fiche where filmed by companies other than the LDS Church and permission to circulate these film to LDS FHCs has been denied. There will be a notice included in the description, saying it can not be circulated. Many of the SC microfilm where made by a company who has refused permission to allow the film to be circulated, but there are many microfilm available for SC, some covering the same material that is on the restricted film. The LDS FHL is a non-profit organization, and that is why it still cost only 15 cents a sheet for a microfiche, $3.25 plus tax to rent a microfilm for a month [may be more in other countries] and the SourceGuide and other home use programs are sold at such a reasonable price. We aren't allowed to make a profit, even in the FHCs. The books that are listed are not loaned out but can sometimes be obtained through an Inter-library loan through your public library. You can request copies of pages and if a book is indexed, by ordering the index you can see if your people would have been listed. In cases where the copyright has expired the book may have been filmed or can be filmed upon request. Never hurts to ask. Virginia Ewing vewing@ctesc.net listowner: Gober, Perry, Ashley & MSWilkin[son] co, MS search the mailing list archives at http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ----- End Included Message -----

-----Original Message----- From: jan <unicorn@sun-spot.com> To: METCALF-L@rootsweb.com <METCALF-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, February 28, 1999 10:09 PM Subject: [METCALF-L] Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness >The Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness site is now up at >http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnstewar/genkin.htm Please take a look at it and >if you want to be a part of this contact me with the county you are willing >to do this in (ideally where you live, not where your ancestors necessarily >are), and what exactly you are willing to do (public record look-ups, or >videotaping area cemeteries). We recommend that you ONLY do this once per >month and keep a waiting list if necessary. Hopefully the movement will >grow until every single state and every single county are represented...and >won't THAT be a wonderous thing for all of us???? Feel free to pass the >message on to your respective lists, and advertise on your sites. >jan > >Houston Co. TN Coordinator: www.rootsweb.com/~tnhousto/index.htm >Stewart Co. TN Co/coordinator: www.rootsweb.com/~tnstewar/index.htm >Listowner: Tnstewar-L-request@rootsweb.com; Tnstewar-D-request@rootsweb.com >Listowner: Tnhousto-L-request@rootsweb.com; Tnhousto-D-request@rootsweb.com >Volunteer of Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness at >http://www.rootsweb.com/~tnstewar/genkin.htm > >

Looking for parents and g-parents of Mary McCLURE, born about1724, married Thomas PATTEN about 1752 perhaps in Boston, died 1815 in Candia, NH. I believe Mary's parents may have been David McCLURE and Martha GLEN(N), perhaps from Edinburgh to Boston to Candia. Any help would be much appreciated! Bob

This could be a very useful site for those lucky folks whose ancestor was photographed during CW service. This is a U.S. Military database of CW photos; there are plans to expand for other service periods as well. It is searchable. http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usamhi/PhotoDB.html Regards, and my apologies if you receive multiple msgs. Ellen Bisson mailto:thebissons@worldnet.att.net

Stratham, has a historical society,,,, with its own building, etc. last contact address I had was Graeme Mann 10 Sandy Point Stratham, NH 03885 603-778-1347 Ramilgo@aol.com wrote: > > Hello, > Can anyone please tell me who the Historians are for Stratham and Greenland, > and how I might contact them? > Many thanks, > M. Gould > > ==== NHROCKIN Mailing List ==== > Send messages to the list to the "To" address found above in THIS message. > To send commands (subscribe/unsubscribe), insert -request between the L > and the @ in the address. Send only the command. > Proverb for the millennium:Oh, what a tangled website we weave when first we practice.

Hi Ellen, Many thanks.....a good web site! M. Gould

Does anyone have any ancestors in the 2dn NH ? I just learned my g-g-g-grandfather Charles Page was in Co. E from 1862 until his death in 1864. I found the synopsis of the regiments' history , but wonder if anyone has any more detailed info. Also , would anyone know about enlistment bounties? Some towns did have them , as high as $200 , and I was curious if Exeter did . too. Mahalo-Kevin

I am looking for the family of Lucy C. Tilton , born about 1816 in Epping or Exeter. She would marry Charles Page in 1843. The initial C is in her and her daughters' names and may stand for Cualty. Any help would be appreciated. Mahalo-Kevin

These are my notes on Thomas BEARD. Thomas Beard was believed to have come from St. Martin Parish to Salem, MA (Pope). 1 Thomas Beard booked passage aboard the Mayflower on her second voyage to MA in 1629. 2 Thomas Beard came to Salem in 1629 with the Higginson & Skelton Fleet. 3 Thomas Beard, one of the first two shoemakers in the MA colony in 1629, came with various hides for shoemaking aboard the May Flower. (The master of the May Flower is identified as Mr. Peirce, who may have been master of the Lyon at that time.) Mr. Beard was recommended to the MA Bay Company by a Mr. Symon Whetcombe. Mr. Beard was allotted 50 acres of land, and was made a freeman 10 May 1643. Soon afterward he purchased an estate at Strawberry Banke (Portsmouth, NH). 4 The home and land purchased by Thomas Beard in Strawberry Banke were purchased from Nicholas Shapleigh.5 ***** 1. Topographical Dictionary of 2885 English Emigrants to New England 1620-1650. By Charles Edward Banks. ELIJAH ELLSWORTH BROWNELL, B.E.E.. Philadelphia, PA. 1937. 2. Family Tree Maker WWW page. Descendants of John Irish. 3. Winthrop Society WWW page. 4. The Second General Letter of the Governor and Deputy of the New England Company, dated London, 28 May 1629, which may be found in the Colonial Records, vol 1, pp. 404,405, and extracted in the History of Lynn, Essex County, Massachusetts. By Alonzo Lewis and James R. Newhall. A Heritage Classic. 5. Genealogical Dictionary of the First Settlers of New England. Page 148. **** I don't know what "primary sources" means, I'm not a genealogist, just someone trying to track his own family, but this is all the info I have on Thomas. I no longer have the URLs of the two WWW sites, but I'm sure they will be easy to find. Are you able to help me with his descendants? Thank you very much for your response to my inquiry, I hope the above helps you. Mike Baird

Hi Michael, What primary evidence do you have that Beard came here in 1629? We do not see him until the 1640s. George F. Sanborn Jr., F.A.S.G. The Great Migration Study Project New England Historic Genealogical Society Michael Baird wrote: > Thomas BEARD, one of the first two shoemakers in the MA colony, came to > Salem. MA in 1629 with the Higginson & Skelton Fleet. Mr. BEARD was > made a freeman 10 May 1643 and soon afterward purchased an estate at > Strawberry Banke from Nicholas Shapleigh. Seeking information on Thomas > BEARD's family and descendants. > > Michael Baird > > ==== NHROCKIN Mailing List ==== > Send messages to the list to the "To" address found above in THIS message. > To send commands (subscribe/unsubscribe), insert -request between the L > and the @ in the address. Send only the command. > Proverb for the millennium: Don't byte off more than you can view.

Hello, Can anyone please tell me who the Historians are for Stratham and Greenland, and how I might contact them? Many thanks, M. Gould

Thomas BEARD, one of the first two shoemakers in the MA colony, came to Salem. MA in 1629 with the Higginson & Skelton Fleet. Mr. BEARD was made a freeman 10 May 1643 and soon afterward purchased an estate at Strawberry Banke from Nicholas Shapleigh. Seeking information on Thomas BEARD's family and descendants. Michael Baird