I see it mentioned Coley's Point. I have come across, perhaps earlier, Cold East Point. I wonder if there was a change and, if so, about when. -----Original Message----- From: Lloyd Rowsell [mailto:lgrowsell@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 11:14 AM To: NFLD-LAB-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NFLD-LAB] before 1865 some Bay Roberts Surnames and family history.... Greetings fellow listers...yesterday, with the help of a good friend from now living at Bay Roberts, I received a photocopy of five pages from the Bay Roberts Guardian dated Febraury, 20th & 27th, March 6th, 13th and 20th, 1943. The information contained therein provides more links in the 'chain of evidence' connecting my ancestors who were residing at or resorting to the Bay Roberts area more than 200 years ago. Of most interest was the serialized publication of the transcription of a lecture on the History of Bay Roberts, Conception Bay, Newfoundland, delivered by Rev. M. Blackmore, at Bay Roberts, aforesaid, on January 24, A.D. 1865. Also of interest was the information about the Earle family and the article written (in response to the lecture publication) by. F.F. Jardine, Bell Island who mentioned his forbear John Kearney who was quote: "one of the brave colonists who came out with Sir David Kirke in 1658 or 1659, from Roscommon, Ireland. Because of the historical record , I would love to see this information published in a current magazine such as 'The Downhomer'. Perhaps one of you may know if this information is now posted somewhere on the web. Upon request, with a bit of background information about your findings about ancestors before 1835, I would be pleased to provide any addidtional excerpts from the articles to interested listers who are researching any of the above surnames. Surnames mentioned by Rev. M. Blackmore: Badcock, Nathaniel...60 ton schooner "The Fox".......quote: "About the beginning of the present century Mr. William Badcock, grandfather of the present Nathaniel Badcock, used to hold service in his own house, and in those times of necessity to marry and christen. Service was also held in a house in Mercer's Cove by an old Jerseyman, Baldwin......" Barnes.....quote: "....shortly afterwards proceeded to cut down the trees and to erect a tilt or studded house into which he and his wife in the year 1808 moved from the back of what is now called Fergus Place....." Churchill Cormack...."The mercantile firm of Cormack & Co. in Mercer's Cove is still in existance......." Delaney, Patrick and John Earle, John b. 1678 married Frances Garland, 1678... quote: "The oldest record now existing in Bay Roberts, in which dates are to be found, is an old family Bible now in possession of Mr. Thomas Earle....." Elms, William--father of the present Henry, William and John Elms Evans.....".....and for the summary punishment of minor offences were stocks set up, one pair where the Evans' now reside, and another near Mr. Charles Mercer's premises. These were in existance about 38 years ago, and were then removed being rotten, no others being afterwards put up in their place." Fergus......quote: "After Mr. Fergus' death, Mr. McLennon in 1836 took the premises, but the trade was gone, and now we may see the melancholy remains of the premises and store a ruin and a warning of the sad effect of strong drink." Fryer Goosney Gosse....quote: "In the following years 1815-1816, Mr. Pack was joined first by Mr. Fryer and then by Mr. Gosse. The firm assuming the name by which it was long known--Pack, Gosse & Fryer. At this time Mr. Pack left Bay Roberts to live in Carbonear, and the business here was henceforth conducted by an agent until the death of its founders, when it passed into the hands of his son-in-law, W. S. Green, who became its sole proprietor." Hooper, Jessie ....quote: "......aided by the praiseworthy efforts of Mr. Williams, the Cathechist, Mr. Jessie Hooper and a few other leading men in the Harbour, in the year 1824 the first Church in the settlement was commenced, and the frame was erected, on the rising ground in the front of Mercer's Cove. The original dimensions of this building were but small, being only 40 feeet by 28 , with a tower and gellery at the western end." Mercer, Samuel father of Isaac, Jonathan and James...quote: "The next existing records bring us down 68 years, and is in possession of Mr. Robert Mercer, Sr..........This record consits of the register of births and deaths of the children of John and Mary Mercer, commencing with Charles, the eldest, born in 1746........." Jackson Pack, Robert Perchard, John, an old Jerseyman Roach Russell,....schooner "The John William"....."and brothers Isaac and Stephen, who took the piece of land between Delaney and Elms. These were followed by the Wilcox and Snows, who took the vacant land on the other or lower side of Elms, and thus was the upper part of Bay Roberts settled." Snow Wilcox Williams.....quote: "Here old Mr. Baldwin read prayers and here Mr. G. Williams, a Cathecist and Lay Reader of the Church of England 53 years ago, ministered and continued to hold service on the Sabbath until the Church was built, when the house, being delapidated, was taken down." some place names mentioned by Rev. M. Blackmore: Beachy Cove Cold East Point Juggler's Cove Riverhead Whit Monday Hill other notes of interest: 1833: Census for Bay Roberts gave: 767 Members of the Church of England, 296 Members of the Wesleyan Church, 190 Members of the Roman Catholic Church. The total population of Bay Roberts being 1258. 1845: The returns of this census gave for Bay Roberts 1245 members for the Church of England, and a total population of 1499, showing an increase of 478 members of the Church of England and of 546 individuals in the total in the interval between the years 1836-1845. 1852: the graveyard in Bay Roberts was newly fenced... 1853: the year following the consecration of the graveyard on Coley's Point, 1854, saw the commencement of a new church for that place.... 1858:...a third Census found that the members of the CofE in Bay Roberts now numbered 1652, the total population being 2373. Surnames mentioned by F.F. Jardine: Bennett Cobbett Earles English Garland Hiscock Normore Pitts Skane ===== Almost three year hobby of researching these Surnames (and variations) /ancestors, who were recorded in BNA before 1835.....*Batten *Beauchamp, *Beecham, *Bishop, Bucham, Buchan, Buchanan, Churchill, *Dawe, Fitzpatrick, *French, **Lamb, **Russell, *Roswell, Rowell, *Rousell, Snow, *Sparks, Tucker In-law surnames of interest include Earle, **Babcock, etc. (*Timeline Docs. on file for these surnames and the history of Bay Roberts CB and St. Mary's PB. All subject related family history comments, contributions and questions are welcome. **Maritime L o y a l i s t surnames.) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ==== NFLD-LAB Mailing List ==== Roll Call Page for Nfld-Lab Mail List http://amoose4.tripod.com/