This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: micmak1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newfoundland.notredamebay/470.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: thanks for writing! Mary manuel was I belieeve johanna beaton and herbert manuels daughter. johanna was the first born to alfred beaton and mary paul. We are still trying to determine mary's parents and it has been suggested that it could be ben paul, but I found nothing to verify that. I think that ellen paul was her mother, and her father thomas barnes. I have the rooms true copy that ellen was micmac and that mary was illigitimate. the 1921 census from the rooms, nfld, clearly shows that mary and the children are micmac. You will need this paper to apply for your status. johanna had 7 siblings, but I found an extra girl while at the rooms in their baptismals and that was verified by one of the granddaughters saying that 2 of the girls went to nova scotia and lived on the reserve. this then makes sense to me as I could not account for one of the daughters and the 2nd fit in nicely. so that makes 8 siblings. I know that there were a set of twins born (ellen and julia) right! after johanna and that if ellen were marys mother and one of the ladies standing up for ellen at marys baptismal was julia joe (nee paul) in the book. So that is just another indicator for me that ellen was indeed mary's mother. also she was born in 1971 according to the records which fit. johannas 2nd brother is frances or frank from whom his daughter is my husbands mother, so you are indeed a cousin! How nice! I have done extensive research on this family and the extended family. If you read the other querey you will see that there may well be beothuk there. my husbands sister has the green eyes but that is not the only reason. I will be happy to answer any and all questions and help whoever needs help as the pauls are elusive and the files that I have extensive and I had to hire an archavist while at the rooms as the pauls are really hard o get info on. thanks for the questions please write again. micmakmaiden Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.