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    1. [NFLD-LAB] Church naming Project
    2. I just googled "List of Churches" Newfoundland and got this website: http://ngb.chebucto.org/Parish/1ferr-parish-idx.shtml This would be a great subject for Wikipedia where links could be recorded for current internet information for each church listed. Do you plan to include Chapels and Meeting Houses for the Society of Friends, dissenters and Roman Catholics in such places as Carbonear, Bay ROBERTS, CLARKE's Beach and Port de Grave? These names for 'houses of worship', with long ago closed cemeteries, come to mind: 1775-1840-1900--Roman Catholic CHAPEL, Port de Grave http://portdegrave.com/history.htm abt.1890--The BETHEL Meeting House, Coley's Point before 1891--Roman Catholic Chapel, Bay ROBERTS? on the site of the Cable Office Museum? http://ngb.chebucto.org/Wills/french-isaac-6-596.shtml 1884--Reformed Episcopal Church, CLARKE's Beach http://www.tcr.gov.nl.ca/panl/vs_aids/Vit-stat_C.htm Roman Catholic Chapel, Carbonear http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cannf/cb_wills_michaeldoyle.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Newfoundlanders I would like to see such a list, arranged in 'date of opening' order for those opened for worship before say 1899, and shared with this group of listers as information is received and organized. Your dedication to Newfoundland history and genealogy is much appreciated. Sincerely, Lloyd ROWSELL &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& Message: 1 Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 12:49:54 -0230 From: Deborah L Jeans <dljeans.winscot@nf.sympatico.ca> Subject: [NFLD-LAB] Church naming Project To: NFLD-LAB-L@rootsweb.com, NFLD-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID:     <20090518152217.MYIK1658.simmts5-srv.bellnexxia.net@simip12-ab.srvr.bell.ca>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I have started to compile a list of all the churches in Newfoundland & Labrador & their proper names. I think it is much better to name the church in the sources for our family trees rather than saying Blackhead Methodist, Blackhead, NL. Obviously the current churches are not hard to find. It is the "no longer in use" churches from abandoned/resettled communities & the "no longer existing" that are a problem. Once compiled this list will be offered to all the Newfoundland genealogy lists to post on their web site. So help with those names would be greatly appreciated. I need name of church, religion & any other info (ie date the church no longer existed or community was abandoned/resettled). Please reply off-list. I will also keep track of who gave me the info just in case I receive conflicting information. Thanks in advance Debbie Jeans, BPEd, BEd,CG(C)* *Certified Genealogist  (Canada) St.John's, Newfoundland Tracing Newfoundland roots since 1978

    05/19/2009 07:10:19
    1. [NFLD-LAB] Church naming Project
    2. Deborah L Jeans
    3. I have started to compile a list of all the churches in Newfoundland & Labrador & their proper names. I think it is much better to name the church in the sources for our family trees rather than saying Blackhead Methodist, Blackhead, NL. Obviously the current churches are not hard to find. It is the "no longer in use" churches from abandoned/resettled communities & the "no longer existing" that are a problem. Once compiled this list will be offered to all the Newfoundland genealogy lists to post on their web site. So help with those names would be greatly appreciated. I need name of church, religion & any other info (ie date the church no longer existed or community was abandoned/resettled). Please reply off-list. I will also keep track of who gave me the info just in case I receive conflicting information. Thanks in advance Debbie Jeans, BPEd, BEd,CG(C)* *Certified Genealogist (Canada) St.John's, Newfoundland Tracing Newfoundland roots since 1978

    05/18/2009 06:49:54
    1. Re: [NFLD-LAB] pauls of wigwam point
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: micmak1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newfoundland.notredamebay/470.2.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: dear heather, gee, I was so satisfied that ellen and abraham could be siblings and now this! It gets deeper all the time.I had to laugh because there are no good theories only facts, so I sigh and go back to the drawing board. Heading north from arizona to edmonton at the end of this month and a trip to NFLD I am pretty sure of this summer, so if I do make it there I will go to st. johns and spend some time on these records for sure. thanks all! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    05/12/2009 07:27:01
    1. Re: [NFLD-LAB] pauls of wigwam point
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: heatherfowler112 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newfoundland.notredamebay/470.2.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi yes Abraham was born Aug 8 1862! I didn't happen to find anything else out since we last spoke. However I think Thomas Abrham's son moved the Labrador. I'm not sure that this is the correct Thomas for sure. I do beleive that Mary and Abraham were brother and sister but not certian of this either. Thanks Heather Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    05/12/2009 01:20:00
    1. [NFLD-LAB] 1929 Tidal Wave....a list of Victims and Survivors
    2. Lloyd Rowsell
    3. http://www.flankerpress.com/tidal_wave.pdf and BUCHANeers http://www.flankerpress.com/buchans_miners.pdf

    05/12/2009 12:36:49
    1. Re: [NFLD-LAB] Fw: Francis of Burin/Port au Bras area
    2. Deborah L Jeans
    3. At 09:34 AM 5/12/2009 -0400, you wrote: >Does this book exist? I would be interested in buying it if it does. >"Births, Deaths & Marriages 1810-1890" Can anyone give me information >to find it? I am interested in the Burin area. The full title is Births, Deaths & Marriages 1810-1890 from Newfoundland newspapers by Gert CROSBIE. It is available on disk for about $50 & is also available in print format. The printed format is 14 volumes which cost $15-$20 each. Both are available from the Maritime History Archive at Memorial University of Newfoundland. They only contain the info as printed in the newspapers. A birth could be announced as SMITH - a son to John SMITH date & newspaper given. Some entries do contain more info but certainly not anything like we see in today's papers. The local libraries &, I believe, the LDS Family History Centres have copies. Debbie Jeans, BPEd, BEd,CG(C)* *Certified Genealogist (Canada) St.John's, Newfoundland Tracing Newfoundland roots since 1978

    05/12/2009 09:05:25
    1. Re: [NFLD-LAB] Fw: Francis of Burin/Port au Bras area
    2. codhauler
    3. Hi Deborah, Try LDS Family History center . I don't know if there is one in the Maritimes. George Codhauler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deborah L Jeans" <dljeans.winscot@nf.sympatico.ca> To: <nfld-lab@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [NFLD-LAB] Fw: Francis of Burin/Port au Bras area > At 09:34 AM 5/12/2009 -0400, you wrote: >>Does this book exist? I would be interested in buying it if it does. >>"Births, Deaths & Marriages 1810-1890" Can anyone give me information >>to find it? I am interested in the Burin area. > > The full title is Births, Deaths & Marriages 1810-1890 from > Newfoundland newspapers by Gert CROSBIE. It is available on disk for > about $50 & is also available in print format. The printed format is > 14 volumes which cost $15-$20 each. Both are available from the > Maritime History Archive at Memorial University of Newfoundland. They > only contain the info as printed in the newspapers. A birth could be > announced as SMITH - a son to John SMITH date & newspaper given. Some > entries do contain more info but certainly not anything like we see > in today's papers. The local libraries &, I believe, the LDS Family > History Centres have copies. > > > > Debbie Jeans, BPEd, BEd,CG(C)* > *Certified Genealogist (Canada) > St.John's, Newfoundland > Tracing Newfoundland roots since 1978 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NFLD-LAB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    05/12/2009 07:59:37
    1. Re: [NFLD-LAB] Fw: Francis of Burin/Port au Bras area
    2. Moran Marshall
    3. Doris, I have Susan G. Francis was born in Nov 1856 and died in 27-Apr-1877 originally from Grand Bank married William Fox. Please contact me at mmarshall@aosc.ca if this Susan links into your family Thanks -----Original Message----- From: nfld-lab-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nfld-lab-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Doris Cooper Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 11:05 AM To: nfld-lab@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NFLD-LAB] Fw: Francis of Burin/Port au Bras area Does this book exist? I would be interested in buying it if it does. "Births, Deaths & Marriages 1810-1890" Can anyone give me information to find it? I am interested in the Burin area. from the desk of: Dee daclkg@copper.net May this day bring you peace and happiness! On May 12, 2009, at 5:29 AM, Deborah L Jeans wrote: > At 09:27 PM 5/11/2009 -0700, you wrote: >> Hello: I heard of a book "Births, Deaths & Marriages 1810-1890" It >> can be bought for around $58,quite expensive, so I wonder if anyone >> has this book and could do a look-up for me?? > > This collection is of Births, Deaths & Marriages as posted in the > various newspapers from 1810-1890 as compiled by the late Gert > CROSBIE. They give very little information such as SMITH - a son to > John SMITH (date & name of paper). There are a few entries for the > FRANCIS surname but none for the Burin area. > >> I am trying to follow the Francis family. My person was Ambrose >> Albert (or Albert Ambrose) Francis. He was considered a brother by >> Eliza (Bennett) Dibbon, but not according to the Anglican Church >> records. Could this have been a case of the Bennett family absorbing >> another family? >> Ambrose was a lobster fisherman. His first wife was Elizabeth. She >> died a few years before 1924 but he married Inez Arey in Gouldsboro, >> Maine in 1889. Did they do divorces back then? I wonder if the >> Francis family was an old family in Newfoundland and if so, what part >> of England did they come from? >> In the 1884 Burin-Methodist census, there is an Elizabeth Francis and >> son Thomas. Could this be his ex-wife? > > It was common that if a parent died, especially the mother, that > another family would take in the child & raise it within their family > structure. Divorces were very uncommon & a death of a spouse would be > more likely the cause of a re-marriage. > > > > Debbie Jeans, BPEd, BEd,CG(C)* > *Certified Genealogist (Canada) > St.John's, Newfoundland > Tracing Newfoundland roots since 1978 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NFLD-LAB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NFLD-LAB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/12/2009 07:19:01
    1. Re: [NFLD-LAB] Fw: Francis of Burin/Port au Bras area
    2. Bob
    3. It's actually on CD now, It's called Nfld Birth Death Marriages or something like that. 1810-1890. Info from newspapers. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.325 / Virus Database: 270.12.24/2108 - Release Date: 05/11/09 05:52:00

    05/12/2009 03:49:42
    1. Re: [NFLD-LAB] Fw: Francis of Burin/Port au Bras area
    2. Doris Cooper
    3. Does this book exist? I would be interested in buying it if it does. "Births, Deaths & Marriages 1810-1890" Can anyone give me information to find it? I am interested in the Burin area. from the desk of: Dee daclkg@copper.net May this day bring you peace and happiness! On May 12, 2009, at 5:29 AM, Deborah L Jeans wrote: > At 09:27 PM 5/11/2009 -0700, you wrote: >> Hello: I heard of a book "Births, Deaths & Marriages 1810-1890" It >> can be bought for around $58,quite expensive, so I wonder if anyone >> has this book and could do a look-up for me?? > > This collection is of Births, Deaths & Marriages as posted in the > various newspapers from 1810-1890 as compiled by the late Gert > CROSBIE. They give very little information such as SMITH - a son to > John SMITH (date & name of paper). There are a few entries for the > FRANCIS surname but none for the Burin area. > >> I am trying to follow the Francis family. My person was Ambrose >> Albert (or Albert Ambrose) Francis. He was considered a brother by >> Eliza (Bennett) Dibbon, but not according to the Anglican Church >> records. Could this have been a case of the Bennett family >> absorbing another family? >> Ambrose was a lobster fisherman. His first wife was Elizabeth. She >> died a few years before 1924 but he married Inez Arey in Gouldsboro, >> Maine in 1889. Did they do divorces back then? I wonder if the >> Francis family was an old family in Newfoundland and if so, what >> part of England did they come from? >> In the 1884 Burin-Methodist census, there is an Elizabeth Francis >> and son Thomas. Could this be his ex-wife? > > It was common that if a parent died, especially the mother, that > another family would take in the child & raise it within their family > structure. Divorces were very uncommon & a death of a spouse would be > more likely the cause of a re-marriage. > > > > Debbie Jeans, BPEd, BEd,CG(C)* > *Certified Genealogist (Canada) > St.John's, Newfoundland > Tracing Newfoundland roots since 1978 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NFLD-LAB-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

    05/12/2009 03:34:33
    1. Re: [NFLD-LAB] Fw: Francis of Burin/Port au Bras area
    2. Deborah L Jeans
    3. At 09:27 PM 5/11/2009 -0700, you wrote: >Hello: I heard of a book "Births, Deaths & Marraiges 1810-1890" It >can be bought for around $58,quite expensive, so I wonder if anyone >has this book and could do a look-up for me?? This collection is of Births, Deaths & Marriages as posted in the various newspapers from 1810-1890 as compiled by the late Gert CROSBIE. They give very little information such as SMITH - a son to John SMITH (date & name of paper). There are a few entries for the FRANCIS surname but none for the Burin area. >I am trying to follow the Francis family. My person was Ambrose >Albert (or Albert Ambrose) Francis. He was considered a brother by >Eliza (Bennett) Dibbon, but not according to the Anglican Church >records. Could this have been a case of the Bennett family >absorbing another family? >Ambrose was a lobster fisherman. His first wife was Elizabeth. She >died a few years before 1924 but he married Inez Arey in Gouldsboro, >Maine in 1889. Did they do divorces back then? I wonder if the >Francis family was an old family in Newfoundland and if so, what >part of England did they come from? >In the 1884 Burin-Methodist census, there is an Elizabeth Francis >and son Thomas. Could this be his ex-wife? It was common that if a parent died, especially the mother, that another family would take in the child & raise it within their family structure. Divorces were very uncommon & a death of a spouse would be more likely the cause of a re-marriage. Debbie Jeans, BPEd, BEd,CG(C)* *Certified Genealogist (Canada) St.John's, Newfoundland Tracing Newfoundland roots since 1978

    05/12/2009 12:59:29
    1. [NFLD-LAB] Fw: Francis of Burin/Port au Bras area
    2. Margaret Murray
    3. Hello: I heard of a book "Births, Deaths & Marraiges 1810-1890" It can be bought for around $58,quite expensive, so I wonder if anyone has this book and could do a look-up for me?? I am trying to follow the Francis family. My person was Ambrose Albert (or Albert Ambrose) Francis. He was considered a brother by Eliza (Bennett) Dibbon, but not according to the Anglican Church records. Could this have been a case of the Bennett family absorbing another family? Ambrose was a lobster fisherman. His first wife was Elizabeth. She died a few years before 1924 but he married Inez Arey in Gouldsboro, Maine in 1889. Did they do divorces back then? I wonder if the Francis family was an old family in Newfoundland and if so, what part of England did they come from? In the 1884 Burin-Methodist census, there is an Elizabeth Francis and son Thomas. Could this be his ex-wife? In anticipation, Margaret Murray

    05/11/2009 03:27:54
    1. [NFLD-LAB] Fw: Francis of Burin/Port au Bras area
    2. Margaret Murray
    3. Hello: I heard of a book "Births, Deaths & Marraiges 1810-1890" It can be bought for around $58,quite expensive, so I wonder if anyone has this book and could do a look-up for me?? I am trying to follow the Francis family. My person was Ambrose Albert (or Albert Ambrose) Francis. He was considered a brother by Eliza (Bennett) Dibbon, but not according to the Anglican Church records. Could this have been a case of the Bennett family absorbing another family? Ambrose was a lobster fisherman. His first wife was Elizabeth. She died a few years before 1924 but he married Inez Arey in Gouldsboro, Maine in 1889. Did they do divorces back then? I wonder if the Francis family was an old family in Newfoundland and if so, what part of England did they come from? In the 1884 Burin-Methodist census, there is an Elizabeth Francis and son Thomas. Could this be his ex-wife? In anticipation, Margaret Murray

    05/11/2009 12:39:41
    1. [NFLD-LAB] Francis of Burin/Port au Bras area
    2. Margaret Murray
    3. Hello: I heard of a book "Births, Deaths & Marraiges 1810-1890" It can be bought for around $58,quite expensive, so I wonder if anyone has this book and could do a look-up for me?? I am trying to follow the Francis family. My person was Ambrose Albert (or Albert Ambrose) Francis. He was considered a brother by Eliza (Bennett) Dibbon, but not according to the Anglican Church records. Could this have been a case of the Bennett family absorbing another family? Ambrose was a lobster fisherman. His first wife was Elizabeth. She died a few years before 1924 but he married Inez Arey in Gouldsboro, Maine in 1889. Did they do divorces back then? I wonder if the Francis family was an old family in Newfoundland and if so, what part of England did they come from? In the 1884 Burin-Methodist census, there is an Elizabeth Francis and son Thomas. Could this be his ex-wife? In anticipation, Margaret Murray

    05/11/2009 09:01:36
    1. Re: [NFLD-LAB] pauls of wigwam point
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tccbnp123 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newfoundland.notredamebay/470.2.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have just recently begun researching the Pauls of wigwam pt. my grandmother is a daughter of benjamin paul and mary joseph stuckless. I understand that benjamin is a son of Noel Paul and elizabeth ?? and that noel paul is a son of joseph paul. i would apprecaite any info that anyone would be ale to share about any of the following: These are children of Noel paul. Benjamin would be my gggrandfather Benjamin(Wigwam Pt.) John (Burgeo) William(Sydney, NS) Ellen Stephen Benjamin Paul married to Mary Joseph Stuckless, (Twillingate) Aug 12, 1891-Canada Bay Children:(note: i don't think that mary, born june 27, 1878 is Mary J Stuckless's daughter) Mary June 27, 1878 , Baie Dunord (conne river area) Agnes Paul, Apr 01, 1893 Stephen March 24, 1894(Exploits) William Apr 09, 1897 (Wigwam pt) Larry Benjamin Feb 12, 1900 (Windsor) died 1992 Gfw Cecilia Francis, June 09.1903 (my grandmother) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    05/09/2009 06:36:31
    1. [NFLD-LAB] REQUEST: MARRIAGE PLACE AND DATE OF BRIDGET LAMASNEY AND JOSEPH PAUL: RENEWS, NFLD
    2. BILL DORGAN
    3. Listers: REQUEST: the marriage date of BRIDGET LAMASNEY and JOSEPH PAUL ... most likely married btw. 1870 and 1880. Both were from or near RENEWS, NFLD. I have searched the available indexes with no luck. JOSEPH PAUL died in NFLD before 1907 (I can't locate his death record either! Can someone help find his death record?) BRIDGET left for the States ± 1907 with her three children. Here's what else I know about her: Bridget Lamasney was 49 and 59 when she appeared on the 1910 and 1920 US Census. She was a widow who immigrated to the US in 1907 from Newfoundland. She was born in Newfoundland and her father was born in England and her mother born in Ireland. She had no occupation. She appears on the 1910 US Census living in Maynard, MA with her two children: JAMES H. PAUL (27) and CATHERINE M. PAUL (13). She appears on the 1920 US Census living in Maynard with her daughter, MARGARET PAUL and her son-in-law, ANTHONY O'BRIEN. Many thanks in advance!! Bill Dorgan

    05/09/2009 04:37:21
    1. [NFLD-LAB] 1836 census of Twillingate
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tgjodell Surnames: Rice Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newfoundland.notredamebay/474/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am trying to find out if the 1836 census of Twillingate South Island is available, or if anyone knows where I might find the information for the census listing? Researching the surname Rice Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    05/08/2009 08:02:13
    1. Re: [NFLD-LAB] pauls of wigwam point
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: micmak1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.canada.newfoundland.notredamebay/470.2.1.1.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: i just received an email from our cousin beaton in botwood, he seems to think that abraham paul was my mary paul's brother. It is something that they all just understood. I do not know how credible this would be as abraham is born in 1862? and my mary is born in 1871 to whom I believe was was her mother. Mary (I think was illigitimate) and went by her mothers last name. I am trying to check this out. will update. talk soon micmak1 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    05/08/2009 06:40:16
    1. [NFLD-LAB] A collection of late-16th & 17th century English recipes
    2. edd73
    3. The subject of old recipes comes up every so often on these list, so I thought this site would answer a lot of question...............enjoy................edbld A collection of late-16th & 17th century English recipes & receipts presented in their original language, all transcribed from primary sources. http://www.godecookery.com/engrec/engrec.html -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1045 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

    05/08/2009 05:48:07
    1. [NFLD-LAB] A collection of late-16th & 17th century English recipes
    2. Edbld
    3. The subject of old recipes comes up every so often on these list, so I thought this site would answer a lot of question...............enjoy................edbld A collection of late-16th & 17th century English recipes & receipts presented in their original language, all transcribed from primary sources. http://www.godecookery.com/engrec/engrec.html -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1045 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

    05/08/2009 05:22:05