Considering Lori-Ann and Matt's discussion ... Not that anyone was asking me to take sides, and not that there isn't plenty of merit to spread over both positions, but I think I'm going to have to side with Matt a little on this one. When someone asks me for data, I generally give them what I have in whatever form they think they need it (GEDCOM, RTF or paper) - that's how I help. When someone has something that I think would help me, I kind of expect the same level of cooperation, but recognize that some people are less comfortable with their computing tools, or have concerns about the amount of information they are giving out about some people. I admit to truncating the data I give out if it concerns living people in SOME cases, and I can't get TOO upset if others do the same. I say: be fair and expect fair treatment and don't worry about getting burned every now and then. The thing that REALLY irks me is when they give me a pile of data (in any format) and it has none, zip, zero references. Sure as shootin' the day will come that someone else will give me conflicting data and I'll have no way to try to assess the difference or resolve it. All my database says is "got this from XYZ" and so I have to hope that they still have the same email address they had 3 years ago and I have to try to find them and get them to answer a question about where they got something. I don't think too many people intentionally omit the references, I think most people just never enter them into their database! Regards - Glen C. Bodie Personal contacts------------------------------- Web http://www.glenbodie.com Home mailto:glen@glenbodie.com Office mailto:Glen.C.Bodie@esso.ca Text Msg mailto:4165658875@pcs.rogers.com My Tree http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gcbodie/MyTree/bodie_antle.htm ICQ http://wwp.mirabilis.com/7544260 Snail Mail: 76 Strathcona Ave, Toronto, Ontario, Canada M4J 1G8 Fax: (208) 248-6782 (via http://www.efax.com) Thornicroft surname----------------------------- Web http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gcbodie/thornicroft Mail mailto:thornicroft@glenbodie.com Query http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.thornicroft Mail List mailto:thornicroft-l@rootsweb.com Antle surname----------------------------------- Web http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~antlenf/default.htm Mail mailto:antle@glenbodie.com Query http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=surnames.antle Mail List mailto:antle-l@rootsweb.com Researching------------------------------------- A.NTLE, B.ODIE, C.OFFIN, C.OMRIE, D.EWAR, F.ARQUHARSON, F.ORD, F.REEMAN, L.AW, L.ILHOLT, M.ACHRAY, M.CNIE, M.CPHAIL, M.UTCH, O.SBORNE, R.ENNIE, S.MITH, S.TERNS, S.TEWART, T.HOMSON, T.HORNE, T.HORNICROFT, T.UPPER, W.ALKER >> M.UTCH+F.ARQUHARSON info at http://www.islandregister.com

Good evening I am seeking descendants of George Chislett & Fanny Dennis who may have information on Fanny's parents, grandparents, etc. Fanny & George married at Sandy Point, NF June 15, 1847. They had at least two children while in Sandy Point; George Chislett April 6, 1848 and Edwin Alexander Chislett February 25, 1850. There appear to be at least two more children born in St. John's; Elizabeth Ann Chislett June 17, 1852 and Nicholas Gill Harris Chislett December 25, 1856. Thank you Lori Oakville, Ontario

Lori-Ann, First of all don't call me "dear" Matt on here or else tongues will wag. <grin> And please trust me that the following is meant to be constructive and not necessarily critical, even though we may disagree on some points. Second of all, to explain to those folks on here who don't use genealogy software, GEDCOMs are files that allow people with different programs (or different versions of the same program) to read each others' file using their own program.e.g. I use Family Tree Maker (FTM) and I can send a file to a person using, let's say Personal Ancestry File (PAF) and he/she can save and read my information with PAF as if they typed it in themselves. They can also use their software to MERGE my data with their's (without retyping it) to add my data to their file and thus then have a file containing their data PLUS my data. Now that the teckie lesion is over, I'll respond to Larc's comments one by one. Lori-Ann wrote: > Hi all, > I sit here with two minds on this issue. > My thoughts? I have spent many hours searching and recording information, > Let's face it, if we are here and dedicated, we are all gene junkies and love every minute of it. > :o) Well maybe not EVERY minute but most.<grin> > Someone sends a Gedcom and wants you to send yours. They merge it and they have all your hard >work and dedication in a simple package without working for it so to speak. > (sorry Matt, I know that you rely on such reciprocation as you always send gedcoms for help my >friend) And you also have all their hard work and dedication in a simple package without working for it so to speak. Lori-Ann, so far you have described a win-win situation. > My theory is this: If I had to enter the info and give up my daughter's time with me and hours of >sleep, then sharing and someone else taking all that I have to offer and them ENTERING it on THEIR >time should be ..hmmmm....logical? Hold it for a moment Lori-Ann. How do you think the data got into THEIR program? In my case, most of it got in there because I TYPED it in on MY time - one character at a time. > If I have records etc to substantiate information, cross referencing and people's names of sources... >why should anyone NOT look at that and see that it took hours???? I have lots of those too.In most cases they will be part of my GEDCOM file. > With the exception of the "few" that we have on the list that have been at this for some time, (yes my >dear Matt, you are included) , I would recommend sending an RTF formatted word doc report listed by >generations. I don't see the point of FORCING anyone to retype a bunch of data that someone else has already typed into a program. Surely, someone receiving another person's data via a GEDCOM will realize that the tooth fairy didn't type it in. > I do not give out a GEDCOM so please don't ask.... > If i worked for it... well . you must do so also with time and dedication to entering the info from >scratch. OK, I won't - as long as you appreciate that, unfortunately, that approach works both ways. > Sorry , just had to voice this opinion big time.... > Lori-Ann OK dear Larc (whooooops) , you've had your say and me mine re GEDCOMS. Now it's my turn - not necessarily big time.... What peeves me are people who provide minimal information and expect to receive all the data that I have. And those people who, on receiving a pile of data from me decide they have enough and use privacy and/or the old living people routine as an excuse not to send their additional data to me. Those people are on a par with the ones who, after many e-mails containing much of the data of interest to them, seem to disappear off the map. But Larc, life goes on. And we'll keep doing genealogy anyway, won't we? Matt

I was hoping you would reply, Matt. Thank you. Exchanging GEDCOMS is the spaceage way of doing genealogy. It saves time and minimizes the chance of an input error. I know I make mistakes and I'm sure everyone else does too. Most people who are seriously looking for their roots are very anxious to share their information. After all, that is where the joy comes from - sharing. Only we, ourselves, know how much sacrifice and hard work has gone into it, so everytime we think of what we have shared, we get a good feeling. It lasts and lasts. We also feel good when we receive a gift, be it a GEDCOM or whatever. But that warm, fuzzy feeling is fleeting, because we don't know what it cost the giftgiver to create it and then share it. Giving and sharing isn't about recognition for doing so. It's about who we are. I want to thank everyone on the NFLD Lists and all the other Lists that have been so wonderful to share with me and help me. I've been able to share very little, but what I have, is available. I'm proud to say my family's roots came from Newfoundland. Marnie Oliver Ingvaldson

Hi Evelyn, Thank you for the kind words. It isn't just me though, it's the majority of the entire list and how we all work together. I am thankful to help others as it is a sort of reward for those on this list that have helped me along the way. I wouldn't have been anywhere either if people hadn't of helped me. I just remember being new to this and feeling like a complete fish out of water..hehe....not realizing then just how much the Fishing/Sealing Industries played such a vital role in my ancestors!!!!! Once again, thank you very much. Keep hunting and keep up the faith... Lori-Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Evelyn" <ewoudenberg@roadrunner.nf.net> To: <larc1963@rogers.com>; <NFLD-LAB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [NFLD-LAB] Off topic???? Gedcoms vs word docs and opinions ... > Hi Lori-Ann; > Thank you so very much for your relentless hours in helping people like > me search and find our ancestors. I remember many late nights last winter > feeling all alone searching different Archives for a glance of info. > pertaining to any of my Ancestors, being a newbie and all, but as soon as > you saw my message asking for advice and help, you were there to help rescue > me it seemed. You lead me through step by step, what a team leader!! You > also were there for anyone at any hour after your hard days work and caring > for your daughter's needs, you were always there to help us all. Many thanks > again for your kind efforts and just being there. > > Cheers > Evelyn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <larc1963@rogers.com> > To: <NFLD-LAB-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 11:12 PM > Subject: [NFLD-LAB] Off topic???? Gedcoms vs word docs and opinions ... > > > > Hi all, > > I sit here with two minds on this issue. > > My thoughts? I have spent many hours searching and recording information, > > Let's face it, if we are here and dedicated, we are all gene junkies and > love every minute of it. > > :o) > > Someone sends a Gedcom and wants you to send yours. They merge it and > they have all your hard work and dedication in a simple package without > working for it so to speak. > > (sorry Matt, I know that you rely on such reciprocation as you always send > gedcoms for help my friend) > > My theory is this: If I had to enter the info and give up my daughter's > time with me and hours of sleep, then sharing and someone else taking all > that I have to offer and them ENTERING it on THEIR time should be > ..hmmmm....logical? > > If I have records etc to substantiate information, cross referencing and > people's names of sources... why should anyone NOT look at that and see that > it took hours???? > > With the exception of the "few" that we have on the list that have been at > this for some time, (yes my dear Matt, you are included) , I would recommend > sending an RTF formatted word doc report listed by generations. > > I do not give out a GEDCOM so please don't ask.... > > If i worked for it... well . you must do so also with time and dedication > to entering the info from scratch. > > Sorry , just had to voice this opinion big time.... > > Lori-Ann > > > > Smile, it looks good on you! > > "We all take different paths in life, but no matter where we go, > > we take a little of each other everywhere." > > Sunshine, Rainbows and Smiles > > > > > > ==== NFLD-LAB Mailing List ==== > > Roll Call Page for Nfld-Lab Mail List: > > http://amoose4.tripod.com/ > > > > > >

Well, of all of my messages, of course you know Matt, that I am gonna answer YOURS first o:) I do agree with your comments and opinions. The door swings both ways, that I know also. Your opinion, yes, I also do not like if someone gives "snippets" and expects much more in return as you are always so willing to oblige. (likely why I just HAD to make mention of you in my email) You always have a way of making me grin when I see your replies and this FRIEND (notice no dear eh? hehe) is no exception. I also agree with your explanation informing those of how to convert files to PAF and then perusing them. Have a great day, Lori-Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Mullaly" <2matt@rogers.com> To: <larc1963@rogers.com>; <NFLD-LAB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [NFLD-LAB] Off topic???? Gedcoms vs word docs and opinions ... > Lori-Ann, > > First of all don't call me "dear" Matt on here or else tongues will wag. > <grin> And please trust me that the following is meant to be constructive > and not necessarily critical, even though we may disagree on some points. > > > Second of all, to explain to those folks on here who don't use genealogy > software, GEDCOMs are files that allow people with different programs (or > different versions of the same program) to read each others' file using > their own program.e.g. I use Family Tree Maker (FTM) and I can send a file > to a person using, let's say Personal Ancestry File (PAF) and he/she can > save and read my information with PAF as if they typed it in themselves. > They can also use their software to MERGE my data with their's (without > retyping it) to add my data to their file and thus then have a file > containing their data PLUS my data. > > > Now that the teckie lesion is over, I'll respond to Larc's comments one by > one. > > Lori-Ann wrote: > > > Hi all, > > I sit here with two minds on this issue. > > My thoughts? I have spent many hours searching and recording information, > > Let's face it, if we are here and dedicated, we are all gene junkies and > love every minute of it. > > :o) > > Well maybe not EVERY minute but most.<grin> > > > > Someone sends a Gedcom and wants you to send yours. They merge it and > they have all your hard >work and dedication in a simple package without > working for it so to speak. > > (sorry Matt, I know that you rely on such reciprocation as you always send > gedcoms for help my >friend) > > > And you also have all their hard work and dedication in a simple package > without working for it so to speak. > > Lori-Ann, so far you have described a win-win situation. > > > > > > My theory is this: If I had to enter the info and give up my daughter's > time with me and hours of >sleep, then sharing and someone else taking all > that I have to offer and them ENTERING it on THEIR >time should be > ..hmmmm....logical? > > Hold it for a moment Lori-Ann. How do you think the data got into THEIR > program? In my case, most of it got in there because I TYPED it in on MY > time - one character at a time. > > > > > If I have records etc to substantiate information, cross referencing and > people's names of sources... >why should anyone NOT look at that and see > that it took hours???? > > I have lots of those too.In most cases they will be part of my GEDCOM file. > > > > With the exception of the "few" that we have on the list that have been at > this for some time, (yes my >dear Matt, you are included) , I would > recommend sending an RTF formatted word doc report listed by >generations. > > I don't see the point of FORCING anyone to retype a bunch of data that > someone else has already typed into a program. Surely, someone receiving > another person's data via a GEDCOM will realize that the tooth fairy didn't > type it in. > > > I do not give out a GEDCOM so please don't ask.... > > If i worked for it... well . you must do so also with time and dedication > to entering the info from >scratch. > > OK, I won't - as long as you appreciate that, unfortunately, that approach > works both ways. > > > > Sorry , just had to voice this opinion big time.... > > Lori-Ann > > OK dear Larc (whooooops) , you've had your say and me mine re GEDCOMS. > > Now it's my turn - not necessarily big time.... > > What peeves me are people who provide minimal information and expect to > receive all the data that I have. And those people who, on receiving a pile > of data from me decide they have enough and use privacy and/or the old > living people routine as an excuse not to send their additional data to me. > > Those people are on a par with the ones who, after many e-mails containing > much of the data of interest to them, seem to disappear off the map. > > But Larc, life goes on. And we'll keep doing genealogy anyway, won't we? > > Matt > >

Hi Lori-Ann; Thank you so very much for your relentless hours in helping people like me search and find our ancestors. I remember many late nights last winter feeling all alone searching different Archives for a glance of info. pertaining to any of my Ancestors, being a newbie and all, but as soon as you saw my message asking for advice and help, you were there to help rescue me it seemed. You lead me through step by step, what a team leader!! You also were there for anyone at any hour after your hard days work and caring for your daughter's needs, you were always there to help us all. Many thanks again for your kind efforts and just being there. Cheers Evelyn ----- Original Message ----- From: <larc1963@rogers.com> To: <NFLD-LAB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 11:12 PM Subject: [NFLD-LAB] Off topic???? Gedcoms vs word docs and opinions ... > Hi all, > I sit here with two minds on this issue. > My thoughts? I have spent many hours searching and recording information, > Let's face it, if we are here and dedicated, we are all gene junkies and love every minute of it. > :o) > Someone sends a Gedcom and wants you to send yours. They merge it and they have all your hard work and dedication in a simple package without working for it so to speak. > (sorry Matt, I know that you rely on such reciprocation as you always send gedcoms for help my friend) > My theory is this: If I had to enter the info and give up my daughter's time with me and hours of sleep, then sharing and someone else taking all that I have to offer and them ENTERING it on THEIR time should be ..hmmmm....logical? > If I have records etc to substantiate information, cross referencing and people's names of sources... why should anyone NOT look at that and see that it took hours???? > With the exception of the "few" that we have on the list that have been at this for some time, (yes my dear Matt, you are included) , I would recommend sending an RTF formatted word doc report listed by generations. > I do not give out a GEDCOM so please don't ask.... > If i worked for it... well . you must do so also with time and dedication to entering the info from scratch. > Sorry , just had to voice this opinion big time.... > Lori-Ann > > Smile, it looks good on you! > "We all take different paths in life, but no matter where we go, > we take a little of each other everywhere." > Sunshine, Rainbows and Smiles > > > ==== NFLD-LAB Mailing List ==== > Roll Call Page for Nfld-Lab Mail List: > http://amoose4.tripod.com/ > >

Transcribed Obituaries for Friday, July 25, 2003, courtesy of "The Telegram", St.John's, NL. BATTEN, William J. - Passed peacefully away at the Health Sciences Centre on Wednesday, July 23, 2003, of Foxtrap, aged 73 years. Leaving to mourn his wife Olive; one sister Susie Lear, Seal Cove; sister-in-law Betty Cross, Mount Pearl; also nieces, nephews and other relatives and friends. Resting at the James J. Hickey Memorial Funeral Home, Kelligrews. Funeral service on Saturday, July 26, 2003 at 2 p.m. at All Saints Church, Foxtrap. Interment in the Anglican Cemetery, Dunn`s Hill, Foxtrap. July 25, 2003 MCINNIS, Donna Kathleen (McCarthy) - Passed peacefully away in the presence of her loving family at the Health Sciences Centre, St. John`s, on July 24, 2003, after a short battle with cancer, Donna Kathleen McInnis, age 50 years. Predeceased by her father, Charlie McCarthy of Deer Lake. Mourning her deeply are her devoted husband and best friend, Alex; her precious children: Kate Richardson (Glenn) of Celle, Germany, Krista (Stephen Gillard) and Fraser; her mother, Onie McCarthy and sister Angela of Deer Lake; brother Danny McCarthy (Theresa); mother-in-law Eileen McInnis; brother-in-law John McInnis (Cathy); sisters-in-law: Maureen MacLeod (Allister), Bea Buckland (Huck), all of Nova Scotia; her co-workers at the St. John`s International Airport, as well as a large circle of relatives and friends. Resting at the Carnell Memorial Chapel, St. John`s on Friday, July 25, 2003 from 3-5 p.m. and 7-10 p.m. and Sunday, July 27, 2003 at Parson`s Funeral Home, Deer Lake from 2-5 p.m.! and 7-10 p.m. Funeral Mass from the Immaculate Conception Parish Church, Deer Lake on Monday, July 28, 2003 at 11:00 a.m. with interment to follow at the Roman Catholic Cemetery, Deer Lake. Flowers gratefully declined. Donations in Donna`s memory may be made to the Canadian Cancer Society. ³Ever Remembered - Ever Loved² July 25, 2003 NOEL, Alice Maude - 93 years. Born January 27, 1910 at Safe Harbour, Bonavista Bay. Passed away at home on July 24, 2003. Predeceased by husband Edmund R. Noel in 1994. Beloved mother of Sidney and his wife Carol Hargreaves of London, ON, Ida of St. John`s, Evelyn and husband Ronald Bisson of Ottawa, ON, Lloyd and wife Dianne Stephens of St. John`s; also four grandchildren: Christopher and wife Amy McCarthy of Toronto, ON, Steven of Kingston, ON, Robert of London, ON, Justine and her children Jessica and Eric of Victoria, BC; also cousins, nieces and nephews. Resting at Barrett`s Funeral Home from 2-4 and 7-9 p.m. on Saturday, July 26 and from 2-4 p.m. on Sunday, July 27. Funeral Service 11 a.m. on Monday, July 28, 2003 from Barrett`s Chapel. Interment to follow in Mount Pleasant Cemetery. Flowers gratefully accepted or donations in her memory may be made to George Street United Church. Please visit www.barretts.ca to sign the memorial guest book. ³Father, grant Thy wearied ! one Rest for evermore.² July 25, 2003 TUCKER, Walter F. - Passed peacefully away on Thursday, July 24, 2003 at the Miller Centre Palliative Care Unit, Walter F. Tucker. Retired employee of Newfoundland and Labrador Hydro. Aged 74 years. Leaving to mourn his wife Eileen (Casey); his sons: Gary and Walter Jr. (Wally) and his wife Libbie; his beloved granddaughters: Robyn and Erin Tucker; his brother Leslie R. and his wife Betty, Calgary, AB and their children: Richard and Janet; brothers-in-law: Ron Casey (Eleanor), Bill Casey (Ann) and Jim Casey (Maureen); sisters-in-law: Carmel McDonald (Kevin), Brenda Grouchy (Bill) and Maureen Casey. Resting at Barrett`s Funeral Home, 328 Hamilton Avenue with visitation on Friday from 12 noon - 10 p.m. and on Saturday from 10 a.m. - 1 p.m. Funeral service will take place from Barrett`s Chapel at 2:00 p.m. on Saturday, July 26, 2003. Cremation to follow. Inurnment at Mt. Pleasant Cemetery. No flowers by request. Donations in his memory may be made to the Palliative Care Unit at! the Miller Centre. Walter`s family would like to thank his special friend Stu Winsor; Dr. Percy Crocker for his exceptional care, and the staff of the Miller Centre Palliative Care Unit for their dedicated care. Please visit www.barretts.ca to sign the memorial guest book. July 25, 2003 WOODS, Rose Louise - Passed peacefully away at St. Clare`s Mercy Hospital on Thursday, July 24, 2003, age 56 years. Predeceased by her parents, Leo and Monica; brothers and sister: Pat, Billy, John and Ann. Leaving to mourn her brothers and sisters: Douglas, Edward, Jean and Margaret; as well as many nieces, nephews, other relatives and friends. Resting at Caul`s Funeral Home, LeMarchant Road. Visitation Thursday from 7 p.m. - 10 p.m. and Friday from 10 a.m. - 10 p.m. Funeral Service on Saturday, July 26th, 2003 at 10:30 a.m. from Caul`s Chapel. Interment to follow at Mount Carmel Cemetery. July 25, 2003

While surfing I found this site about Whaling, the ships and crew lists, which I found very interesting and informative, would just like to share with all those on the New England and Atlantic provinces.(sorry for all the possible duplication, but wanted to send just once and cover everyone.) Edd Sinnett in Florida. The Whalers' Heritage Project Were any of your ancestors members of whaling ship crews? Come and talk to us - free information and services for your genealogy research. http://www.explorenorth.com/whalers/ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 07/14/2003

Hi all, I sit here with two minds on this issue. My thoughts? I have spent many hours searching and recording information, Let's face it, if we are here and dedicated, we are all gene junkies and love every minute of it. :o) Someone sends a Gedcom and wants you to send yours. They merge it and they have all your hard work and dedication in a simple package without working for it so to speak. (sorry Matt, I know that you rely on such reciprocation as you always send gedcoms for help my friend) My theory is this: If I had to enter the info and give up my daughter's time with me and hours of sleep, then sharing and someone else taking all that I have to offer and them ENTERING it on THEIR time should be ..hmmmm....logical? If I have records etc to substantiate information, cross referencing and people's names of sources... why should anyone NOT look at that and see that it took hours???? With the exception of the "few" that we have on the list that have been at this for some time, (yes my dear Matt, you are included) , I would recommend sending an RTF formatted word doc report listed by generations. I do not give out a GEDCOM so please don't ask.... If i worked for it... well . you must do so also with time and dedication to entering the info from scratch. Sorry , just had to voice this opinion big time.... Lori-Ann Smile, it looks good on you! "We all take different paths in life, but no matter where we go, we take a little of each other everywhere." Sunshine, Rainbows and Smiles

Transcribed Obituaries for Thursday, July 24, 2003, courtesy of "The Telegram", St.John's, NL. BRUCE, Michael Francis - Passed peacefully away at the Hoyles-Escasoni Complex on Tuesday, July 22, 2003. Michael Francis Bruce, Past Grand Knight, Past Faithful Navigator and life-time member, Knights of Columbus, age 88 years. Leaving to mourn his loving wife of 64 years, Florence (nee Pynn); one son, Frank (Judy); two daughters: Marcella Gillett (David), Doris Carroll (Frank), all of St. John`s; two brothers: Ed and Leslie (Patricia); two sisters: Mary Furey and Marcella Whelan, all of St. John`s; brother-in-law Charles Pynn, Florida; seven grandchildren; four great-grandchildren; and a large number of nephews and nieces. Resting at Caul`s Funeral Home, LeMarchant Road. Visitation Wednesday from 7 p.m. - 9 p.m. and Thursday from 11 a.m. - 2 p.m. Funeral Service on Thursday, July 24 at 2 p.m. from Caul`s Chapel. Interment to follow at Holy Sepulchre Cemetery. Flowers gratefully accepted or donations in his memory may be made to a charity of ones choice. July 24, 2003 PARSONS, Robert Seeley - Passed peacefully away on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 at the Miller Centre Palliative Care Unit after a courageous battle with cancer, Robert (Bob) Parsons in his 77th year. Predeceased by his sisters: Jessie, Mary and Carrie. Leaving to mourn his wife of 53 years, Violet (Clark); his son Clark (Phyllis); loving grandsons: Robert and Charles; brother Ches (Maude) and a large number of nieces, nephews, relatives and friends. Fondly remembered by the many students he helped and challenged as a long-standing teacher and principal in St. John`s. Resting at Carnell`s Funeral Home, 329 Freshwater Road on Thursday from 2-4 and 7-9 pm, and Friday from 10 a.m. to 12 noon. Funeral service to take place on Friday, July 25, 2003 at 2:00 p.m. from St. Michael`s and All Angels Church with interment to follow at the Anglican Cemetery, Kenmount Road. Donations in Bob`s memory may be made to the Newfoundland Cancer Treatment and Research Foundation. July 24, 2003 PORTER, Ethel May (nee Avery) - Passed peacefully away at The Health Sciences Complex on Tuesday, July 22, 2003, age 86 years. Predeceased by husband Jonathan, June, 1991, son Douglas, August, 1974. Leaving to mourn two sons: Jim (Glenys); Melvin (Deanne); daughters Marjorie Greeley (Edgar); Phyllis Greenslade (Arthur); Gloria Dawe (Arthur); Jeanette Cluney (Gerald); daughter-in-law Ethel Porter; brother Melville Avery, Toronto; twenty-eight grandchildren; thirty great-grandchildren; four great-great-grandchildren. Resting at The James J. Hickey Memorial Funeral Home. Funeral on Friday, July 25, 2003 at 2 p.m. at All Saints Church, Foxtrap. Interment at All Saints Cemetery, Church Rd. Flowers accepted or donations made to a charity of one`s choice. July 24, 2003 POWER, Anne Marie - Passed peacefully away at the Health Sciences Centre on Tuesday, July 22nd, 2003 surrounded by her loving family, Anne Marie Power of Branch, S.M.B., age 53 years. Predeceased by sons: Melvin and Patrick. Leaving to mourn husband Patrick and children: Glenda (Glen), Derek (Carol Ann), Irene (Steven) and Jason (Chris); grandchildren: Brittany, Glenn Jr., Robyn, Brandon, Laura, Emma and Clara; also three brothers and six sisters. The family would also like to thank the Drs. and nurses of 4 South B. Resting at Holy Rosary Church, Branch. Funeral Mass to take place 11 a.m. Friday, July 25th, 2003 at Holy Rosary Church. Interment to follow at the R.C. Cemetery, Branch. Arrangements entrusted to Coombs Funeral Home, Placentia. July 24, 2003 TAYLOR, Susan - Passed peacefully away on Tuesday, July 22, 2003, aged 82 years, of Kelligrews. Leaving to mourn one son James (Marilyn), Lapoile and two grandchildren; also left with special memories are the management, staff and residents of Bayview Heights Manor, Kelligrews. Resting at The James J. Hickey Memorial Funeral Home, Kelligrews. Funeral Service on Saturday, July 26, 2003 in the Anglican Church, Lapoile. July 24, 2003

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DOC.2ACE/82.3 Message Board Post: Hi Tanya, goodness, a coincidence perhaps, I'm not sure? My name is Tanya Mercer, I am 30 & live in Taranaki, New Zealand. My great grandfather was Capt. John Mercer, he married Amy Patterson from Manaia, Taranaki and had one child also named John. They lived in Wanganui. I believe they seperated (I have no knowledge why), but Amy became instrumental in getting women the right to vote in NZ. She raised John who went on to become a teacher & have 3 children of his own, John, Hugh (my dad) & Hilary. Where are you in the world? We must be talking about different Johns, but what an uncanny coincidence! Tanya Lee Mercer

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Mercer Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DOC.2ACE/82.2 Message Board Post: Dear Tanya Mercer, quite suprised to see that we have the same name! Excuse my ignorance, but where are you (in the world)? I am in New Zealand. As far as I know Capt. John Mercer (my great grandfather) married Amy Patterson (daughter of the infamous J.J. Patterson) of Manaia, South Taranaki. They had my grandfather in Wanganui, also named John Mercer who became a teacher. He was a wonderful man. He had three children, one of whom is my father, Hugh.

Transcribed Obituaries for Wednesday, July 23, 2003, courtesy of "The Telegram', St.John's, NL. BOYD, Ena J. (nee Bird) - Passed peacefully away at the Leonard Miller Centre Palliative Care Unit on Monday, July 21, 2003 in the presence of her loving family, after a courageous battle with cancer. Ena leaves to mourn, Art, her husband of 54 years; her son Kirk and his wife Katie, of Orangeville, Ont., and her much loved granddaughters Megan and Adrienne. Also, her brother Ernie (Wynn) Bird, Calgary, AB; sister`s: Rosalie Martin, Happy Valley, Lab; Neta Bird, Spruce Grove, AB; Phyllis (Frank) Kelly, St. John`s, NL; Laura (Ken) Munro, Kamloops, BC; Merle (Ernie) Blake, Burton, NB; as well as many well loved nieces and nephews and devoted friends. Visitation will be held on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 from 2-4 p.m. and 7-9 p.m., from Barrett`s Funeral Home, 328 Hamilton Avenue, St. John`s. A memorial service will be held at Barrett`s Chapel at 2 p.m., on Thursday, July 24, 2003. No flowers by request, donations in Ena`s memory may be made to the Mazol Shriner`s Patients Transp! ortation Fund, 530 Topsail Rd., St. John`s, NL, A1C 5N5. Members of Ena`s family would like to sincerely thank the staff of the Miller Centre Palliative Care Unit for their dedicated and loving service, and seeing that her time there was comfortable and peaceful. July 23, 2003 EAGLE, Kathleen Mary (nee Ryan) - Passed peacefully away on July 22, 2003, in St. John`s, at the age of 89 years. Predeceased by her beloved husband Frank T. Eagle (1959), son Robert W. Eagle (1987) and daughter Jane Marie Eagle Byrne (2003). Kate was the last surviving member of the family of W.P. Ryan, former City Engineer for the City of St. John`s, and his wife Margaret (nee Cunningham). She leaves to mourn daughters Frances Richardson (Allan) of Nova Scotia, Kathy Gulliver (Mike) of St. John`s, and daughter-in-law Elsie Eagle of Pasadena, NL; thirteen grandchildren, seven great-grandchildren and numerous nephews and nieces. She will rest at Caul`s Funeral Home on Lemarchant Road. Visitation from 12 noon to 10 p.m. Wednesday, July 23. Funeral Mass will take place at the Basilica of St. John the Baptist in St. John`s at 9:30 a.m. on Thursday, July 24, 2003. Cremation to follow. Interment at the family plot at Belvedere Cemetery at a date yet to be determined. In her final! years Kate was lovingly cared for by her daughter Kathy, son-in-law Mike and her grandchildren Deanna and Daniel. Though her memories were taken from her in illness, we remember her good life and her struggles. She was an acerbically witty and lively soul whose character, a force of nature, shaped the lives of those who loved her. We will miss her. ³Nature`s first green is gold, Her hardest hue to hold, Her early leaf`s a flower, But only so an hour. Then leaf subsides to leaf, So Eden sank to grief, So dawn goes down to day. Nothing gold can stay.² Robert Frost July 23, 2003 HART, Catherine - Passed peacefully away at St. Patrick`s Mercy Home on Tuesday, July 22, 2003, age 84 years. Predeceased by her husband Douglas. Leaving to mourn her daughter Barbara Pye (George); sons: Robert (Midge), William, Wayne and Barry; eight grandchildren; four great-grandchildren, and best friend Muriel Hart. Cremation has taken place. Funeral service on Thursday, July 24, 2003 at 11 a.m. from Caul`s Funeral Home Chapel. Inurnment to follow at Holy Sepulchre Cemetery. July 23, 2003 HOUSTON, David Joseph - age 59. Passed peacefully away in the presence of his family on Tuesday, July 22, 2003. Predeceased by his son David and parents William and Ellen. Leaving to mourn his daughter Jeanette (David Ryan); two grandsons: Liam and Kyle; three sisters: Anne, Mary Ryan (Leo), Helen; three brothers: John (Lillian), Bill (Maureen) and Jim (Lori). Resting at Caul`s Funeral Home, TORBAY on Wednesday, July 23 from 11 a.m. - 2 p.m. and 5 p.m. - 9 p.m. Funeral Mass on Thursday, July 24, 2003 at 10 a.m. from St. Francis of Assisi Church, Outer Cove. Interment to follow at St. Francis of Assisi Cemetery, Outer Cove. July 23, 2003 PITTMAN, Frederick - WWII Veteran. Passed peacefully away at the Health Sciences Complex on Monday, July 22, 2003. Predeceased by sister Ruth Watts of British Columbia. Left to mourn with fond and loving memories, sons Robert (Heather), children Heidi, Matthew & Russell of St. John`s; Russell (Cathy), children Adam & Sean of Brampton, Ontario; sister Enid Martin of Nanaimo B.C.; brother Eric (Hazel) of Halifax, N.S., many other relatives and friends. Resting at Carnell`s Funeral Home, 329 Freshwater Rd. on Wednesday and Thursday from 2-4 and 7-9 p.m. Funeral Service to take place on Friday, July 25, 2003 at 2:00 p.m. from George Street United Church. Interment to follow at Mount Pleasant Field of Honor. July 23, 2003 TILLEY, Franklyn V. - It is with sadness in our hearts we announce the peaceful passing away of our precious and loving husband, father and grandfather, Franklyn V. Tilley on July 22, 2003 in his 88th year. Leaving with cherished and wonderful memories is his loving wife of 52 years Helen (Ash); three sons: Jimmie (Nicole) Toronto; Jim (Violet), Torbay; Bob (Val), Mt. Pearl; three daughters: Patsy (Peter Kelly), St. John`s; Jewell (Ross Avery), Clarenville; and Wanda (Ray Palmer), Mt. Pearl; sister Dot Balsom, Clarenville and brother-in-law Roy (Monica) Ash, St. John`s. Dad Tilley also leaves fifteen grandchildren and twelve great-grandchildren who were his pride and joy as he was theirs. Also left with special memories are a large circle of family and friends. Retired from the Newfoundland Constabulary and Her Majesty`s Penitentiary, Frank was also a very proud member of the 166th Royal Artillery and the Singing Legionnaires. Resting at Barrett`s Funeral Home, 328 Hamilton ! Avenue on Wednesday from 7-10 p.m., Thursday 10 a.m. to 10 p.m. and Friday 10 a.m. to 12 Noon. Funeral service to be held from the Salvation Army Temple, Torbay Road at 2:30 p.m. on Friday, July 25, 2003. Interment to follow at The Field of Honor, Mt. Pleasant Cemetery. As expressions of sympathy, flowers are gratefully accepted or donations may be made to the Multiple Sclerosis Society of Canada. Please visit www.barretts.ca to sign the memorial guest book. ³In the Sweet Bye and Bye We Shall Meet on that Beautiful Shore.² July 23, 2003

Hi All, I am trying to get in contact with Greg Hawkins. If you are still on the list, would you e-mail me please. Thanks Debbie George.Debra@nf.sympatico.ca

Everett, Although I don't have a copy of a will, have you seen the notes re David REID that I sent as part of that GEDCOM? Matt > Just wondering if anyone has a full copy of David Reid’s Will of 1819, > where he left land in Old Perlican to his daughter Elizabeth Garland. > > > > ==== NFLD-LAB Mailing List ==== > Please do not submit, or respond to, virus alerts, chain letters, or other off-topic material sent to the list. > >

Just wondering if anyone has a full copy of David Reid’s Will of 1819, where he left land in Old Perlican to his daughter Elizabeth Garland.

Looking for information on Coole family from Newman's Cove and Gould family from Charleston. Bert Rolls Clinton, New Jersey

Recently I reviewed the 1997, five part, CBC Video Series titled "East of Canada, the Story of Newfoundland". The parts are named: I...Voyage to the Happy Island; John Cabot's discovery of NL provided a new life to those who came after him, but it led to a slow death for those who had lived here before he arrived. 49 min. II..Outport; Why the outport developed, how it endured, and why it declined. 49 min. III..Nation or Notion? Newfoundlanders have their own way of looking at the world. Does a separate nation still linger in the hearts of Newfoundlanders? 49 min. IV...Canadian Connections; A look at the sometimes-distant and often fractious relationship between Newfoundland and Canada. 49 min. V....Joey's Spade; The impact of industrialization on the lives of Newfoundlanders. 49 min. 1832...The Cause Celeb was the Landrigan Case for Military Justice to replace Civilian Justice.....after much badgering of the British, NL is granted Self Government. 1832..."Outport representatives in the new government were all St. John's merchants"....."unlike the US, NL school children were not taught to know their heros" ....quotes by Paul O'Neil, referring to the Nation's founders. 1836...out of a population of about 30,000, one half were Irish....message to the British Gov't..."The Irish have arrived, now deal with them....one goal was to establish a Catholic Middle Class." 1855-1933...78 years of Responsible Government, or 'Home Rule'....First NL Prime Minister was Mr. Little who was the lawyer of Bishop Flemming, who is credited with building the RC Cathederal, at that time the largest place of worship in North America. " NL was Imagined as an Irish Nation" quote John Fitzgerald ......During this time it was agreed among political leaders that Gov't appointed positions would rotate between Catholics and Protestants.....The British flag was adopted as the new flag for the fledgling nation. National Anthem was written by and English Governor. 1860-1862..Codfishery failed, and depressed for another 6 years. 1864-1869... First Canadian Confederation Conference. NL representatives Carter and Shea endorsed confederation but the people rejected the idea, by a vote in 1869. Eighty years later in 1949 NL joined CA under the same terms that were negotiated in 1869. 1869...76 yr. old Charles Fox Bennett led the anti-confederate cause. Liberals won the day, 21 seats to 9 in the NL House of Assembly. 1881....Newfoundland Railway building agreement was based on the Canadian model for the CPR. 1891...Sir Robert Bond, PM of NL, negotated a 'Free Trade' deal with the US. Canada PM MacDonald used his influence in Britian to scuttle this deal. 1894....NL Bank Crash....within Days the Canadian Banks had established a presence in St. John's. 1929-1932....Depression...Bill Coady of St. John's said " father was a blacksmith...the people blamed the government....there was no national pride, some people would rather burn the place, they couldn't care less." Milley Johnson of Catalina said "Townies, ran the country on the rocks, that was the kind of country we had, they kept you barefoot and ignorant." Merchants favored Commision of Gov't and the people did not have a voting choice in this matter. Only Nation in history to give up the right to vote. 1933....NL Constitution suspended by Britain 1936...Canadian Immigration Minister opposed immigration of Newfoundlanders to Canada. He argued that years of poverty and inter-marriage was reason to exclude Newfoundlanders from Canada. 1939...Unable to defend NL from outside aggressors, Britain authorized Canada to be responsible for the defense of Newfoundland. 1945...In a 'secret agreement' Britain and Canada decided the political fate of NL. 1949...Crosbie and Jamieson promoted the idea of NL union with the USA. 1949...Joey's campaign for Confederation with Canada was funded by the Liberal Party of Canada. ===== Researching Surnames/ancestors, in NL before 1835.....Batten *Beauchamp, *Beecham, *Bishop, *Buchan, *Bucham, Butler, Churchill, *Dawe (Daw, Dar, Dare, Dorr) Earle, Epps, Fitzpatrick, Foot, *French, *Lamb, Moran, Morgan, *Russell, *Rosewell, *Rosedale, Rosdell, Routh, *Rowswell, *Rowsell, Rowell, *Rousell, Roussell, Snow, *Sparks, *Sparkes, Tucker and their in-laws. (*Timeline Documents on file for these surnames, NL Primary Producers and NDBay History..all family history contributions are welcome) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com

Conclusion of transcribed Obituaries for Tuesday, July 22, 2003, courtesy of "The Telegram", St.John's, NL. SQUIRES, Rodney - Passed away suddenly on Sunday, July 20, 2003, Rodney Malcolm Ronald Squires of Winterbrook, aged 30 years. Leaving to mourn with fond and loving memories his father Malcolm of Winterbrook; his mother Gwen of Bedford, NS; his sisters Michelle (Barry Creelman), Lower Sackville and Claudette, Lower Sackville; niece Morgan, Lower Sackville; grandparents George Elms, Lewis Fifield and Mary Clancey; many aunts, uncles, cousins and friends. Resting at the Anglican Church, Winterbrook. Funeral service 2:00 p.m. Wednesday, July 23, 2003 from the Anglican Church, Winterbrook with interment at Anglican Cemetery, Winterbrook. July 22, 2003 TAYLOR, Edith - Passed peacefully away at the Health Sciences Centre on Monday, July 21, 2003, Edith Taylor, age 95 years. Predeceased by husband George, April, 1948; grandson Barry Dawe, August, 1978; only son Jordan Taylor, January, 1987; great-grandson Ricky Penney, February, 1989; grandson George Taylor, February, 1991 and grandson Darrin Warren, 1996. Leaving to mourn two daughters: Emily (husband Warren Dawe), Seal Cove; Marjorie (husband Charles Warren), Chapel Arm; daughter-in-law Mabel Taylor and friend George Janes, Kelligrews; fourteen grandchildren; fifteen great-grandchildren and six great-great-grandchildren; one brother Robert Table, Foxtrap; one sister-in-law Margaret Taylor, Seal Cove, also other relatives and friends. Resting at The James J. Hickey Memorial Funeral Home, Kelligrews. Visitation on Tuesday, 2-4 p.m. and 7-9:30 p.m., Wednesday, 10-12 Noon, 2-4 p.m. and 7-9:30 p.m., Thursday, 10 a.m. - 12 Noon. Funeral Service on Thursday, July 24, 2003 at 2 p.! m. at All Saints Anglican Church, Foxtrap. Interment at The Anglican Cemetery, Church Road, Foxtrap. No flowers by request. Donations may be made to the Heart & Stroke Foundation. July 22, 2003 WALSH, Everett (Retired RNC Sargeant) - Passed peacefully away on Monday, July 21st, 2003, at the Sir Leonard A. Miller Center, Everett Walsh, aged 68 years, of Chapel`s Cove. Predeceased by his parents: Michael & Agnes Walsh, baby brother Vernon John. Left with cherished memories are his life long friend Elizabeth Fewer, his sister Viola St. Croix, St. John`s; his brother Gerard (Marie) Walsh, St. John`s; his nieces: Michelle (Chris), St. John`s; Jennifer (Byron) Anthony & Ashlyn, Edmonton, AB; his best friend Bernard (Helena) Fewer and their family: Brian (Sandy), Sean and Lorianne, Chapel`s Cove. Also, a large circle of other relatives and friends. Resting at Dunphy`s Funeral Home, Holyrood. Visitation on Tuesday and Wednesday from 2-5 p.m. and 7-9 p.m. Funeral will take place on Thursday, July 24, 2003 following 2:30 p.m. Mass of Christian Burial from Sts. Peter and Paul Church, Hr. Main. Interment will be in the R.C. Cemetery, Chapel`s Cove. Please visit www.dunphysfune! ralhome.com to sign the memorial guest book. ³He lives with us in memory, and will for evermore.² July 22, 2003