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    1. [NFLD-LAB] CONCLU. OBITS.--- PINHORN, REID, RYAN, SMITH, SMITH, THISTLE, WAL;KER
    2. Evelyn
    3. Conclusion of transcribed Obituaries for Monday, July 28, 2003, courtesy of "The Telegram", St.John's, NL. PINHORN, Margaret Maxine (nee Collett) - Passed peacefully away at the Health Sciences Centre, St. John`s on Saturday, July 26, 2003 after a long and courageous battle with cancer, formerly of Harbour Buffett, Placentia Bay, in her 63rd year. Predeceased by her parents Arthur and Ada Collett, brother Rupert, sisters Dorothy, Ina and Maisie. Leaving to mourn her husband of 43 years Norman, two daughters: Cathy Miller (Harold) and Donna (Special friend Gord Genge), two precious grandchildren, Mark and Allison Miller. Also leaving to mourn three brothers, Rev. Lloyd Collett (Ada), Arnold`s Cove, Thomas Collett (Margaret), Shoal Harbour, Arthur Collett (Sheila), London, Ont.; three sisters: Laura Stratton (John), Wisconsin, Helen Sweetland (Charles), Stephenville, Rosalind Lockyer (Edward), St. John`s and many other relatives and friends. Visitation in the James J. Hickey Memorial Funeral Home, Kelligrews on Monday and Tuesday 2-4 and 7-9 p.m. and Wednesday at 10 a.m.-12 noon. F! uneral service on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 in St. John`s Evangelist Church, Topsail at 2 p.m. Interment in the Anglican Cemetery, Topsail. Donations may be made to the Cancer Society, Newfoundland and Labrador Division or a charity of one`s choice. July 28, 2003 REID, Wesley, May 27, 1948 - July 27, 2003 - Passed peacefully away at the Health Sciences Centre on Sunday, July 27, Wesley Reid of Dildo, aged 55 years two months. Predeceased by parents Walter and Clara, brother Ricky, in-laws Elmer and Jean Brown. Leaving to mourn with fond and loving memories his loving wife Gloria, children Ricky, Tanya and Debbie. Lovingly remember by sister Gladys Newhook (Gilbert), Norman`s Cove, brothers Walter (Joyce) Gerald (Mary), Max (Betty), Lem (Brenda), Dildo, sister-in-law Susan Kennon (John), Toronto. Uncle Noah Reid, Dildo and Aunt Ethel Anthony, Seal Cove, also a large number of nieces, nephews, other relatives and friends. Resting at Warren`s Funeral Home, Dildo. The funeral service will be held from All Saints Anglican Church, Dildo, on Wednesday, July 30 at 2 p.m. Interment to follow at the Anglican Cemetery. On behalf of Wes` family, a special thank you to the doctors and nursing staff of the Health Sciences Centre. May he rest in pe! ace. July 28, 2003 RYAN, Patricia (Pat) - Passed suddenly away at the Health Sciences Centre on Sunday, July 27, 2003 aged 59 years, Patricia (Pat) Ryan, a retiree of the Department of Fisheries and Oceans. Predeceased by her father John (1984) and sister Shirley (1998). Leaving to mourn and sadly missed by her mother Caroline Ryan, sisters Bert, Mary (Joe), Stella (Alex), Maureen (Ron), Diane (Clarence), and Carol Ann (Lew). Also leaving to mourn her brothers John (Gerry), Bill (Carol) and Robert as well as nieces nephews and a large number of relatives and friends. Resting at Caul`s Funeral Home, LeMarchant Road. Funeral Mass to take place at a time and date to be announced. Cremation to follow with inurnment at Holy Sepulchre Cemetery. Flowers gratefully accepted or donation can be made to a charity of one`s choice. July 28, 2003 SMITH, Susannah - Passed peacefully away at the Dr. G.B. Cross Memorial Hospital in Clarenville on July 26, 2003 at the age of 86. Predeceased by her parents Elizabeth (nee Bursey) and Stephen Button, husband William, daughter Shirley Pitcher, sisters Stella, Jessie, Marjorie and Evelyn and brothers Leonard, Raymond and Harold. Leaving to mourn with fond and loving memories her son Boyd (Cavell), nephew Lloyd Currie (Jane) whom she raised from the age of nine, son-in-law Walter, grandson Roy, granddaughters Debbie (Scott), Patricia (Jason) and Natasha, great-grandson Lucas and brother Morley (Katie). Susie is also leaving behind a large circle of relatives and friends. Resting at Vardy`s Funeral Home, Hickman`s Harbour. Funeral Service will take place at Britannia United Church on Monday, July 28 at 2 p.m. Interment to follow at the United Church Cemetery, Britannia. In lieu of flowers donations can be made in her name to the Britannia United Church Memorial Fund. July 28, 2003 SMITH, Boyce C. - Passed peacefully away at the Dr. G.B. Cross Memorial Hospital in Clarenville on Sunday, July 27, 2003, Boyce C. Smith of Clarenville in his 84th year. Leaving to mourn with fond and loving memories his devoted wife of 59 years Lavinia (Field), daughters Dolores (Alex) Balsom, Sandra (Ross) Wiseman; sons Wayne (Rosalind), Lorne; nine grandchildren and four great-grandchildren and a large number of relatives and friends. Remains will be resting at Fewer`s Funeral Home, Clarenville. The funeral will take place on Wednesday, July 20 at 2 p.m. from Central United Church, Random Island, with interment at the United Church Cemetery in Elliott`s Cove. In his memory flowers will be gratefully accepted or donations to the Dr. G.B. Cross Foundation or the charity of one`s choice. July 28, 2003 THISTLE, Ina Mary (nee Bailey) - Died peacefully on Friday, July 25, in her 84th year at Hennessey`s Guest Home. Predeceased by her husband Joseph and her sister Dorothy Walters. Leaving to mourn her brother Samuel Bailey and his wife Rebecca and also her three children, Joseph, wife Joanne, Doreen McDonald, husband James and Eileen Bruff, husband Carl. She will also be mourned by her grandchildren Kristie and Michael Thistle, Janet and Kirk McDonald, Sandi and Karl Bruff and Beverly Thistle. Also special great-grandchildren Kyle and Evan Bruff and Cloe Thistle. Also missed by her nephews Clayton, David and Eric Bailey and a number of friends and relatives. Special thanks to Mrs. Hennessey and her staff. Resting at Barrett`s Funeral Home, 1081 Topsail Road, from 2 - 10 p.m. Sunday and 10 a.m. - 12 noon Monday. Funeral service at 2 p.m. on Monday, July 28, 2003, from First United Church, Mount Pearl with interment to follow at the United Church Cemetery, Cupids. Donations can! be made to the Heart and Stroke Foundation. Please visit www.barretts.ca to sign the memorial guestbook. July 28, 2003 WALKER, Alphonsus - Passed peacefully away at the Leonard A. Miller Centre on Sunday, July 27, 2003 in the presence of his family after a courageous battle with cancer, Alphonsus Walker of Brigus, aged 67 years. Predeceased by his parents Arthur and Sarah (nee Kennedy), brothers Joseph and Louis. Left with fond memories are his loving wife Marlene (nee Mullins), daughters Rose (Rodney Yetman), Sharon, Judith (Wilson Bishop), sons Joseph (Jennifer), Arthur (Nancy), grandchildren Amanda, Anthony, Daniel, Devon, sisters Margaret (John McHugh), Kathleen Flaherty, Loretta (Francis Woodford), Joan Potter, Anne Browne (Nevin), Marie (Adrian Baldwin), Rose (Ray Bellew), brother Thomas (Marie), sisters-in-law Judy O`Dell, Ida (Ron John), Florence (Alfred Hiscock), Olive (Randell Mullins), brothers-in-law Vince (Lydia), Edward, Cyril (Jean), Hubert (Ursula), Herbert (Gloria), John (Julie), numerous nieces, nephews and a large circle of other relatives and friends. Special thanks to Cl! arence Pomeroy and Jim Flynn. Resting at Broughton`s Funeral Home, Brigus. Funeral to take place on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 at 10:30 a.m. from St. Patrick`s Church, Brigus. Interment to follow in St. Patrick`s Cemetery, Brigus. Flowers gratefully accepted or donations may be made to the Alphonsus Walker Memorial Fund. Visitation hours: Monday and Tuesday 10 a.m.-10 p.m. July 28, 2003

    07/28/2003 12:28:54
    1. [NFLD-LAB] OBITS.--- BREEN, CALLAHAN, CRAWLEY, HAYNES, HOLLETT, LY, ELYOT, O'BRIEN
    2. Evelyn
    3. Transcribed Obituaries for Monday, July 28, 2003, courtesy of "The Telegram", St.John's, NL. BREEN, Mary Elizabeth (Mollie) Murphy - Passed peacefully away on July 27, 2003, Mary Elizabeth Breen in her 93rd year. Predeceased by infant daughter Joan, husband Herb, brothers Chris, Rob, Bill and Hubert, sisters Doris, Madeline and Ellen. Leaving to mourn with many fond memories her sons Gordon (Glenna), Stan (Betty), five precious grandchildren, six precious great-grandchilden, sisters Nora and Win, brothers Nelson and Phillip and their families and a large circle of friends. At Mary`s request cremation has taken place. A period of visitation for family and friends on Thursday, Aug. 14 from 2-4 and 7-9 p.m. and on Friday, Aug. 15 10 a.m.-12 noon. Funeral service to take place on Friday from St. Thomas` Anglican Church at 2 p.m. Interment to follow at the Anglican Cemetery, Forest Road. No flowers by request, donations may be made to the Canadian Cancer Society. July 28, 2003 CALLAHAN, Maria - Passed peacefully away at the Health Sciences Centre, St. John`s on Sunday, July 27, 2003 in the presence of her family Maria Callahan (formerly of New Perlican) age 79 years. Predeceased by husband Arch 1996, grandson David Cluney 1976. Leaving to mourn her family: Adelaide (Eric Cluney), Louise (Mike Cahill), Peggy (Job Parsons), Steve (Donna), Claudette (Freeman Keats), and Marilyn (Fred Mills); 16 grandchildren two brothers Clifford Peddle (Daisy), George Peddle (Lillian), one sister Priscilla Green (Oliver), three sisters-in-law Jane Peddle, Marie Somerton (Gerry) and Claire Hussey, one brother-in-law Terry Doyle also a large circle of nieces, nephews, other relatives and friends. Resting at St. Augustine`s Anglican Church, New Perlican. No flowers by request. Donations in Maria`s memory may be sent to her daughter Louise Cahill, 22 Mount Cashel Road, St. John`s, NL, A1A 1X7 with the intent of placing a memorial at the Leonard A. Miller Centre, Geriatr! ic Day Hospital, where she spent so many happy days. Special thanks to Dr. Patrick O`Shea who looked after Mom with such kindness and professionalism over the last two years and the staff of the Health Sciences Centre who treated Mom and the family with such dignity. A special thank you to family friend Gert Reardigan for all her kindness over the past several years. Funeral arrangements entrusted to the care of Green`s Funeral Home, Winterton. July 28, 2003 CRAWLEY, Brendan - Passed peacefully away at St. Clare`s Mercy in the presence of his family on Sunday, July 27, 2003, Brendan Crawley, aged 69 years of Holyrood. Predeceased by his parents Alphonsus and Theresa Crawley, his brother Leonard, his sisters Anita Bartlett, Barbara Dory, Veronica Crawley and Bernice Thornton. Left to celebrate his life are his sisters: Alma Murphy, Paradise, Marlene (Kevin) O`Brien, Holyrood, and Blanche (Larry) Emmons, Oshawa, Ont., his aunts Josephine Steele, St. John`s, Anna Cahan, Boston, Mass., many nieces, nephews and a circle of other relatives and friends. Resting at Dunphy`s Funeral Home, Holyrood. Visitation on Monday and Tuesday from 2-5 and 7-9 p.m. Funeral Mass of Christian burial from Holy Cross Church, Holyrood. Interment will be in Holy Cross Cemetery, Holyrood. Donations in his memory may be made to Holy Cross Memorial/Restoration Fund or to a charity of one`s choice. Please visit www.dunphysfuneralhome.com to sign the memorial g! uest book. ³What we keep in memory is ours unchanged forever.² July 28, 2003 HAYNES, STANLEY - Passed away suddenly in Saint John, New Brunswick on Saturday, July 26, 2003, Stanley Haynes formerly of St. John`s, age 49 years. Leaving to mourn his two sons Scott (Vanessa), Tim, New Brunswick; his sons` mother Patricia Bradley; three grandchildren: Leah, Brandi and Shirvauna; his parents Stanley and Dorothy; brothers Wayne (Brenda), Frank (Andrea), Eugene, Kenneth, Edmonton Alta., Max (Vidi), Ontario, David (Tonya); his sisters Sharon (Bob Starring), Ontario, Roxanne (Paul Renzo), N.B., Joan (Matthew Harding), special friend Cathy Mahoney, N.B., his special aunt and uncle Patricia and Robert Wiseman, N.B., his grandmother Hannah Burton, N.B., as well as nieces, nephews, family and friends. Resting at Barrett`s Funeral Home, 328 Hamilton Avenue from 7-9 p.m. Monday and from 10 a.m.-9 p.m. Tuesday and Wednesday. Funeral service to take place 2 p.m. Thursday, July 31, 2003 from Barrett`s Chapel. Cremation to follow. Flowers gratefully accepted or donation! s in his memory may be made to the Heart and Stroke Foundation. Please visit www.barretts.ca to sign the memorial guest book. July 28, 2003 HOLLETT, W. Samuel (Retired CN Railway Worker) - Passed away after a lengthy illness at the palliative care unit, Leonard A. Miller Centre on Saturday July 26, 2003, Samuel Hollett of Chance Cove, aged 72 years. Leaving to mourn wife Maggie; sons George (Meta), Harvey (Marilyn), Rex (Sharon), John (Madonna), Bill (Tina), Roger (Judy); daughters Madeline Collett (Roger), Kathleen Clarke (Kerry), Madonna Pinsent (Don); 15 grandchildren three great-grandchildren, brother Harold (Mary), sister Frances Crann, also lovingly remembered by a number of nephews, nieces, other relatives and many friends. Resting at the Church of the Ascension, Chance Cove, from where the funeral service will be held on Monday, July 28 at 2 p.m. Interment to follow at the Church of the Ascension Anglican Cemetery, Chance Cove. No flowers by request. As expressions of sympathy donations in his memory gratefully accepted to the Church of the Ascension Memorial Fund. Funeral arrangements entrusted to Warre! n`s Funeral Home, Dildo. July 28, 2003 LY, Elyot Critchell - Passed peacefully away on Saturday, July 26, 2003, at Notre Dame Bay Memorial Health Centre, Twillingate, Elyot Critchell Ly, at the precious age of nine years. Leaving to mourn loving parents mom Patricia and dad Richard; little brother Nikolas; Nan and Pop Elliott, Nan and Pop Ly; four aunts: Aunt Liz, Aunt Maxine, Aunt Ngoe and Aunt Dung; four uncles: Uncle Clyde, Uncle David, Uncle Dan and Uncle Xuyen; six cousins: Jennifer, Gary, Gordon, Tasha, Danielle and Andy; and to all others who Elyot touched in his short and precious, wonderful life. Family will be receiving friends and relatives at Carnell`s Funeral Home, 329 Freshwater Rd. from 7-9 p.m. Tuesday, July 29. Funeral service will be held on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 at 11 a.m. from the Carnell Memorial Chapel. In lieu of flowers, donations in Elyot`s memory may be made to the Rainbow Riders. July 28, 2003 O`BRIEN, Emmie (nee Puddester) - Passed peacefully away at St. Clare`s Mercy Hospital on July 27, 2003, after a courageous battle with lupus, Emmie O`Brien, aged 54 years. Predeceased by her parents Neil and Loretta Puddester. Leaving to mourn with fond and loving memories her precious boys Jamie (Shelley), Rodney and Justin; daughter Tammy (Brandon and Katie); her sister and best friend Anita Colbert (Jerry, Lori and Ryan); brothers Kevin (Marlene), Reg, Pat (Karen), Neil; sisters Pat Lundrigan (John, Patty, Tom and Nicole), Marilyn O`Dea (Pat, Neil and Colin), Carol King (Melvin, Kirk and Jeremy); special friend and caregiver Dianne Bishop and devoted friends in KIN. Also, many other relatives and friends. Resting at Ryan`s Funeral Home, Bay Bulls, Monday, July 28 and Tuesday, July 29, from 12 p.m.-10 p.m. Wednesday, July 30, from 10 a.m.-12 p.m. Mass of Christian Burial will take place on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 at 1 p.m. from St. Patrick`s Church, Witless Bay. Interment! to follow at Holy Cross R.C. Cemetery, Witless Bay. Flowers gratefully accepted or donations may be made to the Lupus Society. Weep not for a soul set free, Miss me but let me go. July 28, 2003

    07/28/2003 12:14:02
    1. [NFLD-LAB] CONCLU. OF TIDBITS INFO. CHURCHES FOR GENEALOGY PURPOSES
    2. Evelyn
    3. From: "Evelyn" ewoudenberg@roadrunner.nf.net To: NFLD-LAB-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 5:28 PM Subject: CONCLU. OF TIDBITS INFO. CHURCHES FOR GENEALOGY PURPOSES Conclusion of different Churches in and around the St.John's areas. I hope these tidbits of info. about different Churches may help someone with > marriage, death or baptisimal Certificates during their genealogy research > or just to worship during your visit to our beautiful Province, > "Newfoundland and Labrador". There will be more Churches from different > Towns and Villages to follow during the next few days as you may know that > there are quite a few places to transcribe. > > For particulars feel free in contacting me offlist. > > Pentecostal > > Bethesda Pentecostal Church > 1 Escasoni Place, St. John's. > > Cornerstone Pentecostal Assembly Church > 168 Military Road, St. John's. > > Elim Pentecostal Tabernacle > Corner of Ropewalk Avenue and Empire Avenue, St. John's. > > Faith Pentecostal Church > Foxtrap Access Road, Foxtrap, CBS. > > Park Avenue Pentecostal Church > 195 Park Avenue, Mount Pearl. > > Pentecostal Hope Church > Garden Road, Seal Cove > > The Worship Centre > 10 Canada Drive, St. John's. > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > United Pentecostal > > New Life United Pentecostal Church > 261 Kenmount Road, St. John's. > > United Pentecostal of Mount Pearl > 161 Park Avenue, Mount Pearl. > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Salvation Army > > Haven of Hope Corps > 12 Springdale Street, St. John's. > > > Mount Pearl Citadel > 106 Ashford Drive, Mount Pearl. > > St. John's Citadel > 25 Adams Avenue, St. John's. > > Conception Bay South Corps > Conception Bay Highway, Long Pond, CBS. > > St. John's Temple > 101 Torbay Road, St. John's. > > St. John's West Corps > Mundy Pond Road, St. John's. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > United Church of Canada > > Cochrane Street United Church > 81 Cochrane Street, St. John's. > > Cowan Heights United Church > 141 Frecker Drive, St. John's. > > First United Church > 221 Park Avenue, Mount Pearl. > > George Street United Church > George Street West, St. John's. > > Gower Street United Church > Gower Street, St. John's > > Portugal Cove United Church > Portugal Cove Road, Portugal Cove. > > Pouch Cove United Church > > St. James United Church > 330 Elizabeth Avenue, St. John's. > > Topsail United Church > "The Church by the Side of the Road", main road, Topsail. > > Trinity United Church > Mount Pearl Senior High School, Ruth Avenue, Mount Pearl. > > Wesley United Church > 101 Patrick Street at Hamilton Ave., St. John's. > > > Submitted by Evelyn Woudenberg > NGB Coordinator for St. Barbs, White Bay, Great Northern Peninsula >

    07/28/2003 11:29:06
    1. [NFLD-LAB] CONT. TIDBITS INFO CHURCH LOCATIONS
    2. Evelyn
    3. From: "Evelyn" ewoudenberg@roadrunner.nf.net To: NFLD-LAB-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 4:45 PM Subject: CONT. TIDBITS INFO CHURCH LOCATIONS > Continued tidbits of info. about different Churches in different Towns, a > guide for genealogy and a Church of one's choice to worship during a trip to > our Province. > > > Places of worship > in and around St. John's > > Baptist > Calvary Baptist Church > 415 Kenmount Road, St. John's. > > First Baptist Church > Ambassador Place, Mount Pearl. > > West End Baptist Church > 314 Topsail Road, St. John's. > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Presbyterian > > St. Andrew's > 76 Queen's Road, St. John's. > > St. David's > 98 Elizabeth Avenue, St. John's. > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Seventh-day Adventist > > Conception Bay South Seventh-day Adventist Church > 1079 Conception Bay Highway, Conception Bay South (Upper Gullies), > > St. John's Seventh-day Adventist Church > 30 Aldershot Street, St. John's. > > > Seventh-day Adventist Church of Newfoundland and Labrador > 1041 Topsail Road > Mount Pearl > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Wesleyan Chruch > > Wesleyan Church > The Solid Rock Wesleyan Church meets at The Fluvarium in Pippy Park Sunday > 10:30 am. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ------ > > Presbyterian > > St. Andrew's > 76 Queen's Road, St. John's. > > St. David's > 98 Elizabeth Avenue, St. John's. > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Unitarian > Avalon Unitarian Universalist Fellowship > Anna Templeton Centre, 278 Duckworth Street, St. John's. > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Chinese Christian > > St. John's Chinese Christian Church > (Languages used: Mandarin, English and Cantonese) > 30 Newtown Road, St. John's > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Hindu > Hindu Temple > 10 Penny Lane, St. John's > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Muslim Association of Newfoundland and Labrador > Muslim Association of Newfoundland and Labrador > 430 Logy Bay Road, St. John's. > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Gospel Hall > Gospel Hall > 47 Smith Avenue, St. John's. > > Gospel Hall > 111 Park Avenue, Mount Pearl. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Jewish > > Beth-El Synagogue > Corner of Elizabeth Avenue and Downing Street, St. John's. > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Jehovah's Witnesses > Jehovah's Witnesses > 168 MacDonald Drive, St. John's. > > Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses > Middle Bight Road, Kelligrews, CBS. > > Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses > Old Placentia Road, Mount Pearl. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Dawn Christadelphians > The Dawn Christadelphians > Portugal Cove > > > Christadelphians > The Christadelphians > 149 Thorburn Road > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints > > Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints > Ferryland Street East, St. John's. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Bahá'í Faith > > > 31 St. Laurent Street, St. John's > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Independent Full GospelCorpus Christi Parish Hall, 260 Waterford Bridge > Road,St. John's. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ------- >

    07/28/2003 10:46:35
    1. [NFLD-LAB] So far Roache-Roach-Roches do NOT match using DNA!!!
    2. Jim Roache
    3. Result Strings Count 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 2 14 23 17 10 15 16 11 13 11 13 12 29 1 14 23 15 10 15 16 11 13 12 13 12 30 1 14 23 15 10 15 15 11 13 12 13 12 30 1 13 24 14 12 11 12 12 12 11 13 13 28 1 13 24 14 10 11 13 12 12 11 14 13 30 1 13 23 14 11 11 13 12 12 13 12 13 28 1 13 23 13 11 17 17 11 12 13 13 11 30 1 12 25 14 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 1 Unique high resolution strings: 1 Result Strings Count 12 25 14 10 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 29 17 9 10 11 11 23 15 19 29 15 16 16 18 1 Jim

    07/28/2003 10:08:09
    1. [NFLD-LAB] CONT. TIDBITS INFO. CHURCHES FOR GENEALOGY PURPOSES
    2. Evelyn
    3. From: "Evelyn" ewoudenberg@roadrunner.nf.net To: NFLD-LAB-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 3:30 PM Subject: CONT. TIDBITS INFO. CHURCHES FOR GENEALOGY PURPOSES Continued names of different Churches in different Towns, Villages, it's location for "Genealogy" purposes or just to worship during a visit to our Province. The following is the "Anglican Church Of Canada" more Denominations to follow: Places of worship in and around St. John's Anglican Church of Canada All Saints' Conception Bay Highway, Foxtrap, CBS. All Saints' Pouch Cove - Main Highway, Pouch Cove. Church of the Ascension 58 Smallwood Drive, Mount Pearl. St. Lawrence Church Portugal Cove, Portugal Cove Road. St. George's Anglican Church Petty Harbour, Maddox Cove Holy Trinity Bay Bulls Cathedral of St. John The Baptist 22 Church Hill, St. John's. The Good Shepherd 7 Ruby Line (corner of Ruby Line/Old Placentia Road), Mount Pearl. St. Augustine's 1 Westerland Road, St. John's. St. Cyprian and St. Mary's Church Road, Bell Island. St. John the Evangelist Rectory Road, Topsail, CBS. St. Mark the Evangelist 203 Logy Bay Road, St. John's. St. Mary the Virgin 1 Cornwall Avenue, St. John's. St. Michael and All Angels 150 LeMarchant Road at St. Clare Avenue, St. John's. St. Nicolas Torbay Road, Torbay. St. Paul's St. John's St. Peter's Anglican Church Main Road, Upper Gullies (near Seal Cove). St. Philip's Parish St. Philips Portugal Cove. St. Thomas' 8 Military Road, St. John's (across from Hotel Newfoundland). The Holy Innocents Paradise Road, Paradise

    07/28/2003 09:37:12
    1. [NFLD-LAB] TIDBITS INFO. DIFFERENT CHURCHES GENEALOGY PURPOSES
    2. Evelyn
    3. Transcribed tidbits of info. about names of different Churches in different Towns for genealogy purposes or just a place to worship during a visit to our Province. Other Denominations to follow: Places of worship in and around St. John's Roman Catholic Basilica of St. John The Baptist 200 Military Road, St. John's. Corpus Christi 260 Waterford Bridge Road, St. John's. Holy Family St. Thomas' Line, Paradise. Holy Trinity Convent Lane, Torbay. Mary Queen of Peace 135 Torbay Road, St. John's. Mary Queen of the World 799 Topsail Road, Mount Pearl. St. Agnes' Main Road, Pouch Cove. St. Michael's Wind Gap Road, Flatrock. St. Edward's Long Shore Road, Kelligrews, CBS. St. Francis of Assisi Logy Bay Road, Outer Cove. St. John Bosco Shea Heights, St. John's. St. Joseph's Petty Harbour. St. Kevin's Main Road, Goulds. St. Matthew's 111 Cowan Avenue, St. John's. St. Michael's Bell Island. St. Patrick's 6 Patrick Street, St. John's. St. Paul's 340A Newfoundland Drive, St. John's. St. Peter's 112 Ashford Drive, Mount Pearl. St. Pius X St. Pius X 16 Smithville Crescent, St. John's. Saints Peter and Paul Main Highway, Bay Bulls. Our Lady of the Sea Witless Bay. St. Teresa's 120 Mundy Pond, St. John's. St. Thomas of Villanova Conception Bay Highway, Topsail, CBS.

    07/28/2003 08:16:57
    1. Re: [NFLD-LAB] Northern Bay and area Pictures
    2. Evelyn
    3. Hi Matt; I did view your photos of "Northern Bay" they are awesome! you look awesome as well <smiles> these photos remind me of my own home-Town, especially your house. I'm a Bay whop myself. Most of the houses were very big back then, but they usually had very large families also. Really enjoyed your pics Matt! Cheers Evelyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Mullaly" <2matt@rogers.com> To: <NFLD-LAB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 11:35 PM Subject: [NFLD-LAB] Northern Bay and area Pictures > By now most of you have heard me ramble on about Northern Bay, my > birthplace. > > If you are interested in seeing a little of what it looks like, click on the > following for some pictures. > > http://ngb.chebucto.org/Dist_Photo/1bdv-photo-idx.shtml > > Matt > > > ==== NFLD-LAB Mailing List ==== > Roll Call Page for Nfld-Lab Mail List > http://amoose4.tripod.com/ > >

    07/28/2003 07:34:09
    1. [NFLD-LAB] Gedcom
    2. Joanne
    3. Hi List, I actually responded to LARC's original gedcom ? to her directly on FRI thinking I had sent the post to the List but somehow I missed sending it and so I will now make my case to the list and then promise to stop posting,,,for today. Matt, I see that you have worked out the merge/append process in a way to "best avoid" duplicates. Others have likely not developed such a process but should try to do so. However, even a system which "at best avoids" some duplicates just may not be "good" enough. Here is the dilemma as I see it...and why I never went beyond the 500 people in my tree whom I Knew belonged in their respective families. And the reason why I don't feel comfortable with the compilation of data which gets passed on, and passed on and passed on...then posted on the internet and yet when you contact "the contact" person for a correction you get "No Reply at All." In my family line (like I suspect all) the practice of repeating names and naming children after one's siblings leads to a string of first cousins with the same first name born in the same locality all within the same decade. If you do not know for sure the "Maiden Name" of the spouse they married the chance that you will be able to determine who the parents or children are is nearly impossible. Here is my (pseudo-real) example....this made up dates for example 3 Bros. T, N, & W all born late 1760s, all marry late 1780's all have 3 sons each born in 1790s, all named for the original 3 Bros. So you have T(1760) with T(1791) N (1793) W (1795) N(1760) with T(1792) N (179?) W (1796) W (1760) with T (1790) N (179?) W (1795) If all survive by 1815 you have 12 adult males all with the same surname; 4 groups of 3 with the same first and last name all capable or marrying/remarrying/reproducing. so in 1815 if the 9 first cousins (let's assume the Dad's don't widow, remarry & reproduce) marry and each have 3 sons by 1820 you now have 27 second cousins. 9 T's (born bet 1815-1820) 2nd cous 9 N's (born bet 1815-1820) " 9 W's (born bet 1815-1820) " plus their fathers 3 T's (born abt 1790) 1st cousin 3 N's " 3 W's " plus the grandfathers 1 T 1 N 1 W So here you have the possibility of 40 related males with the same surname in the same locality and of those 40 there is the possiblity that there are 3 groups of a dozen each sharing the same first and last name... How without knowing the Mother's Maiden names of generation # 2 born bet. 1815-1820 can we (with any certainty) place these guys in the correct family without "ASSUMING" they are duplicates when in reality they are likely cousins. As a hobby I think it is okay to create the database, tracking folks, tracing lines, gathering clues and especially for your own line where "your memory" and "care with data" is likely better. I also feel that share and share alike is the basis for this hobby and whose to say whose line is whose line when you see the surnames marry and blend overtime. But I know there were perhaps a Minimum of 3 adult Nicholas Kennedy's in Crocker's Cove between 1783 and 1807...one married to a Elizabeth King, one to a Mary, and one to Grace Young and without an Obituary or a Gravemarker I cannot assume it was the Same Nicholas whose wives happened to have poor luck with longevity. By assuming Nicholas (abt. 1765) perhaps was married and widowed 3X and thus blend the families we run the risk of eliminating 2 other families, likely those of his first cousins. This is where I have a problem with merging, duplicating, appending, blending the data because overtime people will accept it as "record" rather than contrived data based on what little information is available. Now you may think we'll never really know with the time frame being so early...and this is even more reason Not to blend families without the confirmation of a Maiden name or exact birth and death date. I am not opposed to them being entered into a database...for it would be impossible to keep track of them any other way but Verify, verify, verify ..... X-Message: #2 Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 16:50:42 -0400 From: "Matt Mullaly" <2matt@rogers.com> To: NFLD-LAB-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <013c01c35480$becc1a20$34847018@rchrd.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> Subject: [NFLD-LAB] APPENDING/MERGING GEDCOMS Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Brendan, See below for a few comments re how I prevent duplicates when I MERGE incoming GEDCOM data into my main file. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brendan Hynes Jr." <mclaclan@sympatico.ca> To: <NFLD-LAB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 1:27 PM Subject: [NFLD-LAB] Gedcoms....pros and cons.... > I used to be a firm believer in using them as a means of data sharing, > in fact I recall once even suggesting that perhaps we should create a > page on the sites just for them... > > Having however worked with a couple in the past I find myself of > differing opinion now.... > > While it's true enough that they make things easier in the entering of > multiple names in a few mere clicks of the mouse even the finest of > merging operations won't nescessarily catch all the possible duplicates > and one can quite easily discover after the fact that X number of names > and branches are now duplicated in one's database. Brendan, here's what I do: When I receive a new GEDCOM, I load it into my Family Tree Maker (FTM) thus creating an FTM file and examine it. Then I: 1 - Use the FIND and REPLACE function in FTM to massage certain incoming data to fit MY format. e.g., I change all the NEWFOUNDLANDs, NF, NL, etc. to simply Nfld., the abbreviation I use. 2 - I assign a birth DATE (an ABOUT birth date) to EVERY person in the incoming file that dosen't already have one. MORE ON GUESSED DATES BELOW. To do this I use a little formula that has worked well. If you are interested let me know. 3 - If the incoming SURNAMES are in the format I use (Joseph Roberts SMALLWOOD), I again use the FIND and REPLACE to change the format to Joseph Roberts Smallwood. By the way, Joey is in my file as grandmother was a COOPER from Lower Island Cove, in my neighborhood and his wife was a OATES from up the road in Carbonear. MORE ON SURNAMES BELOW 4 - Of course, I back up my main file before I allow anything to be added to it. 4- When I actually get to the APPEND/MERGE operation , I use the APPEND ONLY option. This prevents FTM from MERGING anything on its own. All I've done is add the incoming data to my file without MERGING anything. 5 - Then I go through each incoming person - one-by-one - beginning with the first person in a family branch. Before I add each one, I look for possible duplicates based on either real dates or the ones that I've assigned. SEE # 2 above. As I do that, I mentally add and subtract about 10 years to/from those dates that I've guessed at. And I also look at spouses and anything else that may indicate a duplicate. 6 - As I add each person permanently to my file, I change their surname (now in lower case - SEE # 3 above) to upper case to fit my format. 7 - Before I finish, I look at my main index to make certain that there are no lower case surnames in there. What I've actually done is to use FTM to massage and APPEND the data and perform the manual MERGE function as described. By the way, it's more difficult to describe this process than to actually do it. I've been using (and refining) this method for years now and it works for me. So endth the lesson - hey it is Sunday. <big grin> Cheers. Matt

    07/28/2003 07:23:03
    1. [NFLD-LAB] True Newfoundlander
    2. Joanne
    3. Sorry folks but I have to add my 2 cents...just one more post after this...and I will be quiet.... I think all have made good points in the discussion which hopefully will make "Newbies" aware of the issue and more careful in note taking, record copying, etc. And the best statement on the subject was Michael Ryan saying that a "true Newfoundlander shares without expecting in return" and the worst statement was from someone new to the list thanking folks for help and at the same time stating they woud "not share one bit till it was all copywritten" Copywritten work is fine...everything on the net is "copyright" protected and when someone "helps" you with an OBIT, Will, or Message post etc. make sure you obtain permission from the Poster before you cut and paste it. Somehow I feel the "unwilling sharer" type may not be the type to attribute either. There is no excuse for failing to attribute the work of others with a Thank You and citation except for bad ethics. We are all human and make errors (forget where we found something) but let your own conscience be a good guide and when that fails May GRANDMA's grave serve as a reminder. Joanne

    07/28/2003 07:21:52
    1. [NFLD-LAB] NFLD chat
    2. Joanne
    3. Brendan, I am pretty sure AOL has a Nfld chat still going on...Judy Barker has alink on her site but it is AOL members only. The IRL-Tipperary list meets to chat and while it is fun it is kind of like having 10 people in an elevator all talking at the same time...still I think it would be great to set one up. Joanne

    07/28/2003 07:13:58
    1. [NFLD-LAB] RAG Ryan - Distress
    2. Distress in St John's The Document To His Excellency Sir Charles Hamilton, Bt., Govenor and Commander in Chief in and over the Island of Newfoundland, &., &/ May it please your Excellency, We the undersigned merchants and principal Inhabitants of the town of ST John's beg leaave to approach your Excellency with sentiments .... St John's Newfoundland [signed] October 24, 1821 John Ryan Lewis K Ryan Pierce Ryan > > >

    07/27/2003 04:28:44
    1. Re: [NFLD-LAB] Northern Bay and area Pictures
    2. You ramble???? oh come on Matt, we all adore your emails and laughter... thanks for giving us a link to see the photos. LA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Mullaly" <2matt@rogers.com> To: <NFLD-LAB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 10:05 PM Subject: [NFLD-LAB] Northern Bay and area Pictures > By now most of you have heard me ramble on about Northern Bay, my > birthplace. > > If you are interested in seeing a little of what it looks like, click on the > following for some pictures. > > http://ngb.chebucto.org/Dist_Photo/1bdv-photo-idx.shtml > > Matt > > > ==== NFLD-LAB Mailing List ==== > Roll Call Page for Nfld-Lab Mail List > http://amoose4.tripod.com/ > >

    07/27/2003 04:25:34
    1. [NFLD-LAB] RAG Bishop Burials Burnt Head
    2. Bishop BBurials at Burnt Head Conception Bay Chrurch of England Virtue Bishop 11 yrs buried 4 aug 1842 Williiam John 4 days 23 feb 1854 John 10 yrs 21 sep 1855 Nathaniel 23 yrs 2 jul 1857 Eki 7 mos 13 nnov 1863 Sarah Ann 2 y 8 mos 20 nov 1863 John 71 yrs 21 Aapr 1864 Lorenzo 9 yrs 4 jan 1865 Lucy Ann 9 mos 17 jun 1868 Emma 2 yrs 9 oct 1870 Joseph 77 yrs 17 jan 1871 Solomon 22 yrs 10 feb 1871 Mary Hannah 4 yrs 17 dec 1871 Christopher 1 yr 4 mos 17 dec 1871 Mary 11 yrs 12 mar 1872 Ann 4 yrs 15 mar 1872 ? Eleandor Hind 9 mos 10 aug 1872 Rebecca 58 yrs 7 dec 1872 Edward Charles 20 yrs lost by capsizing of their boat in squall off Blackhead near Cape St Frances on Thurs July 29 1873 Henry William "" "" Samuel henry 23 yrs 12 sep 1873 solomon 24 yrs 21 may 1877 Jacob 16 yrs 6 nov 1877 John [lower john] 65 yrs 3 mos 25 jan 1878 Elfrida 4 mos 25 feb 1881 George 4 mos 20 feb 1882 Lavina 12 yrs 27 mar 1885 Mary 79 yrs southside died 22 may 1885 bur 25 may 1885 Fanny elizabeth 2 yrs aouthside bur 28 aug 1885 Elijah 79 yrs south side bur 26 sep 1885 Frances 81 yrs southside bur 17 jun 1886 Mary ann 16 mos burnt head 19 feb 1889 Susan 68 yrs burnt head bur 7 mar 1889 Rachel 99 yrs 10 mos burnt head bur 2 jan 1890 Joseph 21 yrs burnt head died 26 apr 1890 bur 30 apr 1890 [died on board SS ? Mastiff] George 70 yrs southside bur 4 apr 1891 George 75 yrs south side bur 11 may 1891 Edward 68 yrs southside bur 14 jun 1891 * Sophia 13 yrs southside died 29 jun 1891 bur 2 nov 1891 * Sophia - the stone in St Augustine C of E cemetery states died July 4, 1891, note she was buried November Jacob 2 yr 4 mos southside bur 23 oct 1892 Dianah 64 yrs southside bur 1 dec 1892 James 22 yrs 4 mos south side bur 27 jan 1893 Edward charles 4 yrs southside bur 10 jul 1893 [drowned by falling over wharf] Joseph 65 yrs southside bur 16 oct 1893 Abraham 28 yrs souuth side bur 11 jul 1894 Mary ann 13 yrs southside bur 9 nov 1894 James 58 yrs south side bur 4 jun 1985 If you connect, please contact me at larc1963@rogers.com Hopefully this will help others in their search also. Lori-Ann

    07/27/2003 04:21:57
    1. [NFLD-LAB] RAG strays Ryan/Healey
    2. Capr Breton Post Heale, Robert Beaumont Hamel, 83 at Lindsey ON formerly of Richmond QC Jan 19 2000 Baorn at NF son of Walter and Mabel [BISHOP] Heale Ryan Mary E [Molly] 99 of Halifax NS Feb 1 1994 Born at Channel NF daughter of James W and Honore [Sears] Keeping Hope it helps, Lori-Ann

    07/27/2003 04:16:43
    1. [NFLD-LAB] Northern Bay and area Pictures
    2. Matt Mullaly
    3. By now most of you have heard me ramble on about Northern Bay, my birthplace. If you are interested in seeing a little of what it looks like, click on the following for some pictures. http://ngb.chebucto.org/Dist_Photo/1bdv-photo-idx.shtml Matt

    07/27/2003 04:05:58
    1. [NFLD-LAB] RAG Ryan Disbursements St.J. 1822-1823
    2. List of Disbursments for the District of St Johns 1822 - 1823 The Document List of Disbursments inthe District of ST John's from 20 October 1822 to 20 October 1823 .... 73 Matthew Ryan for fire wood for jail 14 shillings 78 Matthew Ryan for firewood 12 shillings 84 Matthew Ryan for firewood 12 shillings 117 Jas Clift for Necessities to Kitty Ryan a pauper 12 shillings 147 John Ryan's account for printing 49 pounds 9 shillings 2 pence 55 for support of W Ryan & family p Order of Sessions 1 pound 13 shillings Hope this helps add to the notes and details for those that connect. Lori-Ann

    07/27/2003 03:27:11
    1. [NFLD-LAB] Curious...
    2. Brendan Hynes Jr.
    3. To know if anyone knows of a group of any size that has any manner of regular real time discussions regarding genealogy and newfoundland in particular?.... Have often wondered if any of the list members had formed something in the way of group forum rooms through their msn networks, Yahoo or even icq? Regards, Brendan

    07/27/2003 02:02:10
    1. Re: [NFLD-LAB] Curious...
    2. Bfoley52
    3. when I was a AOL subscriber they had regular "real time" chats. But I think it was just for AOL people. BF ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brendan Hynes Jr." <mclaclan@sympatico.ca> To: <NFLD-LAB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 8:02 PM Subject: [NFLD-LAB] Curious... > To know if anyone knows of a group of any size that has any manner of > regular real time discussions regarding genealogy and newfoundland in > particular?.... > > Have often wondered if any of the list members had formed something in > the way of group forum rooms through their msn networks, Yahoo or even > icq? > > > Regards, > > Brendan > > > ==== NFLD-LAB Mailing List ==== > For information on viruses please check the following: > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/virus.html > >

    07/27/2003 02:00:29
    1. [NFLD-LAB] Fw: roll call
    2. Vera Short
    3. Please do not reply to me, this is a fowarded message, respond only to the email address listed below. ----- Original Message ----- From: "michelle and craig" <craigjk@telusplanet.net> To: <Nfld-lab-L-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 4:32 PM Subject: roll call > I am researching for my tree Hynes, Fleming, Fardy, Quinlan, Corbett, > Woodford and Conran of Holyrood/Chapel's Cove. > Power, Norman, Griffiths, Whelan, Page, Smith, Fitzpatrick, Hoskins, Lynch > and Riley of Placentia Bay and areas. > > My husbands tree includes Kennedy and Penney of Holyrood, Fewer, Hawco, > Corbett, Lannon and Myers of Chapel's Cove. White of Bacon Cove, Parsons of > Island Cove. Shea, and Pitman of Placentia Bay and Gatherall of Bay Bulls. > > I would love to share any info I have on any of these families. I seem to be > at a stand still with most of them currently. Any little tidbit may connect > a few branches at this point. > > Michelle Hynes and Craig Kennedy > >

    07/27/2003 12:29:28