In ABOUT 1904 a Blanch TÊTRO was the wife of John Henry Mahar and they lived in, or near, Newark, NJ, USA. I have a notation that indicates she was born in St. John's, Newfoundland, Canada. Based on her giving birth to a child in 1907, I ASSUME she was born between 1870 and 1890. Can anybody provide me with a pointer where I may try to obtain birth information on Blanch TÊTRO? Regards, -=Mike=- -- Mike McLane http://homepage.mac.com/mmclane/ Primary E-mail <mmclane@mac.com> Backup E-mail <mmclane@1958.usna.com> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Dobbin Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UOC.2ACI/19.1 Message Board Post: I can possibly give you some information about these Dobbins. I will be away all of next week, but you can e-mail me directly if that is allowed on this list. vcsullivan @shaw.ca

See URL http://www.ex.ac.uk/cimt/dictunit/dictunit.htm#length A surveyer's "link" is a little less than 5 meters Ernie > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [NFLD-LAB] Old Tools Part 2 > Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 10:35:49 -0600 > From: Whelans <whelans@shaw.ca> > To: NFLD-LAB-L@rootsweb.com > > I am not sure if you received my first message on "Old Tools" or not which I sent an hour ago. I have still not received it from the list. Anyway, to update further on the measuring tape, I can now see that the outside edge has 66 feet stamped into the case. There is no manufacturer's name anywhere. Also, for the unusual measurements on the underside of the tape, is there such a measurement as "link". At the first interval, it reads " 1 Link" then each following interval is 2...3.. and so on. I tried to do a search for link as a unit of measure but do you know how many websites have the word "link" in them? Just about every one that exists! > > Thanks again, > Valerie

Hello, At 10:35 AM 01-08-2003 -0600, Whelans wrote: I tried to do a search for link as a unit of measure but do you know how many web sites have the word "link" in them? Just about every one that exists! According to my book with Imperial (British) Measurements: 1 Link = .660 ft. 1 Rod, or Pole, or Perch = 5 1/2 yds. 1 Chain = 100 Links or 22 yards. Cheers, Jim Jim & Lois Roberts, New Brunswick, Canada. <jamesr@sprint.ca> Currently Members of MLFHS (#8778), Devon FHS (#7506), Somerset & Dorset FHS (#7623B), LANCSGEN, CBGHA. All email checked by e-Trust EZ Antivirus-updated daily.

"Lloyd Rowsell", Wrote: > I have wondered about the circumstances and definition of the word > 'distressed' as recorded in the 1817 Census for Conception Bay NL. I do not believe that this is a census but rather is a report on the economic conditions of the inhabitants of Conception Bay. Unlike a census I do not believe that anyone went house to house and took the information from individuals but, instead, I would guess that the information was obtained from the supplying merchants. So how they were characterised ("distressed", "well off", "very well off") may have been as much a reflection of the supplying merchants situation as the situation of the inhabitants. The only copy I have seen of this document is a photocopy from the A.C. Hunter Library in St. John's. Unfortunately it does not include where the original is to be found. I am sure that it was a document produced for someone in the Colonial Office but I don't know where it is. If one knew this then one could figure out why and how it was produced. If anyone knows the source of this document (i.e., which Colonial Office or Board of Trade series is comes from and the page numbers) I would be very pleased to be told. > After reading the quotes below it looks like it could have been > another word to describe bankruptcy, which we know today. It could be, but I think that it isn't being used in this precise a sense but rather used in the more general sense that they were very hard up, more precisely it probably meant that they didn't have the resources to feed themselves for the winter and that their supplying merchant wasn't willing to advance them it either (i.e., supply it on credit). Whether they were 'bankrupt' would be another matter (i.e., one can be very much in debt but not be bankrupt). It is listed under "Means of providing" and the other terms used here include "well off" and "very well off". > This > family situation was and is sometimes sufficient reason to 'leave > town' and 'start over' in another location, provided that there is > some financial help from a family member or friendly benifactor. Traditionally insolvent inhabitants had their return to England paid for by their supplying merchant. Reeves mentions the custom: --begin quote-- While I was at Trinity Harbour last Summer, I saw a Boatkeeper of Perlican, who, with a Wife and Ten Children, wished to be carried to England to his Parish. The merchant, by whom he had been supplied till the last Two years, told me, he had fallen so in Debt to him that he could not supply him further, and he had offered to convey him and his Family to England, as he saw no Probability of the Boatkeeper retrieving his Affairs. The Boatkeeper, however, wished to try his Luck again, and persuaded a Merchant at Harbour Grace to supply him; he went on for Two Seasons, had no Success, fell deeply in Debt to his new Merchant, and was, when I saw him, in Dread of being refused Supplies for the Winter, and his Family perishing for Want. To escape this he wished to go to England; but the first Merchant now refused what he had before offered; the Man was out of his Hands; he was not bound by that Sort of Honour, which is well understood in the Island, to supply him during the Winter; a Burthen which always falls on the Merchant who has the Fish during the Summer, and not being so bound, he had no need to renew his Offer of conveying the Man and his Family to England. I thought the first Merchant perfectly right; he had done his Duty, while he had any Obligation on him. I mention this only to shew [sic], that something else than Zeal for the Trade is the Motive for sending Home Persons without being paid for so doing. Reeves, J. (1793). Mr. Reeve¹s evidence before a committee of the House of Commons on the trade of Newfoundland. London: J. Sewell, Cornhill; J. Debrett, Piccadilly; and J. Downes. Page 88. --end quote-- The 'parish' here was the civil parish which supplied relief under the Poor Law. > I am told that NL families were very supportive of each other in > the early days of NL history. This may have been the case (it would be hard to disprove or prove), but in any case, the British Colonial Office and Navy often transported the poor back to England (at the urging of the merchants no doubt) rather than pay relief. > Was it 'bankruptcy' that motivated > many family moves to northern Coves and settlements on the Island > of Newfoundland Better fishing I would guess, places like Conception Bay had pretty well 'filled up', fishing wise, by the early nineteenth century. > and moves much further away to mainland Canada and > USA. Poverty and better economic opportunities for certain. > (a) quote from Father Thomas Ewer's letter from Harbour Grace > dated March 20th, 1817...."The much increased population in this > place demands many more missionarys than we have at present, but > the close of a long war has so changed the scene here, that in > every probability it will soon be thin of people. The failure of > the fishery deprived us of the supplies necessary & the numbers > who flock here from poverty at home render our present case > desperate." (lghr questions: does 'at home' mean Ireland? It would also mean the West of England in the case of Harbour Grace. There was a general economic depression in both Britain and Newfoundland at the end of the Napoleonic Wars. > and > what year was the potato famine in Ireland?) The Great Famine was 1845-50 (though there had been localized ones from the mid-eighteenth century), very few escaping that famine went to Newfoundland, which was already had more emigrants than immigrants by then. Most went to the United States and the Canadas (the same place many Newfoundlanders were already going to). > (b) quote from Court Proceedings (St. John's 1821) concerning 'A > Plea for Reform, The Case of James Landergan (1818)...."James > Landergan, a native of this island, and a respectable planter at > Cubit's, in the district of Conception Bay, happened in the > fishing season of 1818 to fall in debt for supplies, to the > inconsiderable amount of twelve pounds. It is not usual with the > suppliers for the fisheries in this island to distress the > planters who may chance to be in arrears to them at the fall of > the year, and more especially when they are possessed of fishing > rooms as a security for the debt." (lghr note: my ancestor, Henry > Rosewell, in the year 1813 sold a fishing room and 61 yards of > waterfront property at Bay Roberts, where the 50+ Club stands > today, for 10 pounds sterling to Robert Pack, paid for with Bills > of Exchange.) This does refer to a case of insolvency/bankruptcy, however many people were in debt at the end of the fishing season but they were not bankrupt unless the merchant called in his debts and most did not. Again from Reeves' evidence citied above: --begin quote-- With respect to the Population of the Island, and the Increase of Residents, this seems to me an Evil, if it is one, that cannot be so easily cured. I repeat, that the Merchants which pretend so much Zeal against Residents have been and still are the principal Encouragers of Residency; the Resident Boatkeepers are the Hens that lay them their Golden Eggs; so long as they are successful, and are able to pay their Way, no Merchant (with all his supposed Zeal for a Fishery carried on from Great Britain) ever wishes to remove them; but as soon as they run not only repeatedly in Debt (for the most thriving are so, and the Merchant takes pretty good Care to keep them so) but so much behind, Year after year, as not to afford a Prospect of the Merchant being any longer a Gainer by them, then no Body is so anxious as he is to send them out of the Country to prevent their being burthensome to himself; and some of these are the Instances the Merchants cite, when they say they have brought many Home without taking any Thing for their Passage. The other Instances are of Servants who are grown lazy and unprofitable;.... (p. 91) --end quote-- The years 1816-1818 were very hard ones in Newfoundland. The population had increased rapidly in the period from 1810-1815 because fish prices had been very high (the main competitors, France and the United States, had been unable to fish and the war had lead to increased demand) and travel between Britain and Newfoundland had become more dangerous for those working in the fishery (mostly from the danger of impressment by the Royal Navy but also from the Americans). After 1815 the economy crashed, there were bad fisheries, and St. John's burnt down. The winter of 1817-1818 was known as the 'Winter of the Rals' when there was real starvation and gangs of unemployed men raiding stores in search of food. A good source to read on this is, Ryan, S. (1994). The ice hunters: A history of Newfoundland sealing to 1914. St. John¹s, NF: Breakwater. Robert M. Lewis, PhD Department of Sociology AA 2046 Memorial University of Newfoundland St. John's, NL A1C 5S7 CANADA 709-737-3977 http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~lewis

I have another unusual question today. I have a new wooden object which I want to "weather" to a grey look like old wharves, lobster traps, driftwood, etc. I live in Alberta so leaving it out on the point and letting the cold North Atlantic spray do its natural job is not an option. Is there some way I can help mother nature along, to speed up the process. I can leave it out in the sun but is there a chemical or something that would weather it faster. I know that there are deck washes that will reverse the weathering process. What factor does salt play in this grey weathering? Would it help if I mixed up salt water and soaked it in it? Thanks again, Valerie

Thanks to Granda, Blinky Bill, Dan Breen, Gary & Elizabeth Kent, Jim Roberts, Iris, V. Dawson, Susan Whelan and Don Tate for your help in figuring out the old conversions on this antique measuring tape from Newfoundland. I now know that the entire tape of 66 feet measures one chain and that there were 10 square chains in an acre. Each chain was made up of 100 Links or 4 Poles (which is the same as a perch or rod). Apparently, this was the old way of measuring land and some people have suggested that what I have inherited is a land surveyor's measuring tape. One person told me that my T shaped awl is a "hole borer" but I am still not sure what it was used for. Anyone have more to offer on that one? I can send you a picture if it would help. How about dating these tools? Any suggestions there? Again, thanks for your help! I can always count on my genealogy friends to come through with the correct answers! Valerie

Hi All The Eastport Genealogical Workshop and Seminar 2003 is now history, and I've been home since Saturday night, long enough to get my feet back on the ground and my thoughts put in order. The gathering and sharing was a success from my view. We had great presenters and wonderful interactions between the people attending. Many new contacts were made, and I'm sure some different leads were explored. There seemed to be adequate amounts of resource materials on site as some people returned day after day and thanks to Roy's persistence most things got done on time. Approximately 40 people signed the guest book during the week. However, I am sure there were people present who did the sign the book. Monday Roy and I started out quite early and set up the large room at the Eastport Beaches Heritage Site; tables and chairs were put in place, resource books and materials were laid out and my computer system connected and made ready. The printout for the Bonavista Bay data now runs 3000 8 1/2 by 14" pages and is bound in 19 books and contains information on more than 30,000 individuals. There was also a table for published books on Bonavista Bay. Audrey Ford and her husband Bill arrived with her material on the SWEETAPPLES of Goose Berry Islands and the Glovertown area. Not a large number of people showed up but that was ok as it gave us time to complete the set up and pay personal attention to those who did arrive. As it was, some people were there until 10:30 p.m.--we were going to close at 9 p.m. Tuesday Keith Brown arrived and set up a table with his resource materials on the BROWNS of Newfoundland. Keith has been doing a one name study on Browns for more than 15 years and has accumulated a formative amount of material. He told me that his recent word involved searching legal files for data on the Browns. Andrew Brown of Salvage, a long time resident of that community and a great local historian and story teller in his own right, was present and captivated listeners with his knowledge and personal antidotes of many of the old families. Between Keith and Andrew the Brown family was well taken care of Tuesday. Wednesday Shirley Oldford of Burnside arrived at 10 a.m. and set up her display on the OLDFORD family. In the afternoon she gave a wonderful presentation on that family along with some of its history; and with the aid of wall charts, she made it quite interesting for all present. She also explored a puzzling connection between the Burden, Hobbs, Brown, and Samsons families in the Salvage area. Shirley left her display and resource materials on site for the rest of the week for any and all that wanted to take advantage of it. Thursday Grace Hiscock Hollett arrived on Tuesday and stayed with us all week. She gave her presentation twice on Thursday--one in the morning and again in the afternoon for those of us that could not attend the morning session. Her talk covered the Hiscock family of Flat Islands, Bonavista Bay. The thoroughness of her research was evident in the knowledge she displayed on the families. Later in the evening, Roy Babstock, who was present all week, gave a great presentation on the BABSTOCK family, tracing them from their early beginnings in Barrow Harbor down to the Babstocks today. Not to be out done by Shirley and Grace, Roy did up his own chart to help present the early Babstock family. Friday This day turned out to be a research day as both of the Brodericks couldn't make it. Tina had a personal matter that had to be attended to out of the province and her brother Bill ended up with an unexpected work assignment in St. John's. Bill, however, did finished his assignment in time to make it home Friday afternoon and being a committed fellow he said he would make every effort to be with us on Saturday morning. Saturday This day started out as usual at 10 a.m. and Bill Broderick arrived soon after. He gave an hour-long address that started about 11 a.m. Bill gave a good account of how he and his sister Tina went about getting RC material for the St. Brendan's Come Home Year book in 1991. The book was called "From Helvick Head To Hescut Point "The St. Brendan's Irish". Apparently much of the material that was available to them at that time is now closed off to the public. (new RC policy). Bill talked about some of the different families on St. Brendan's--how and when they arrived and their possible roots. He also mentioned the "how and why" Cottle's Island came to be called St. Brendan's. At 2 p.m. Dr. Gordon Hancock, the guest speaker for Saturday and for the closing event of the week, gave a slide show presentation in the Theatre to approximately 40 people. This very entertaining show began with pictures of the Eastport Peninsula with its many bays and coves and some of the old housing of the area. After a short break, Gordon talked about some of his many trips to England and how and where he found the birth places of many of our ancestors. To concluded the week's event, Roy Babstock and I thanked the many people that contributed to or helped out in any way. Presentations were given to Dr. Gordon Hancock, Andrew Brown and me. Our thanks go out to everyone mentioned above and the many others that made this week possible. It is possible that this year's gathering of genealogists may be the first of many more to come at the Eastport Heritage Center. Sincerely Fred Pafford

It is strange but for some reason the first message that I sent entitled "Old Tools" did not show up on the list but the second part did. I will repeat the original message here along with a final update: ----- Original Message ----- From: Whelans To: NFLD-ROOTS ; NFLD-LAB Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 9:24 AM Subject: Old Tools I recently acquired a couple of old tools that belonged to my great-great-grandfather's brother. That would place them sometime around the late 1800s. One is a cloth measuring tape that you wind up inside a black case. There are two types of measurements on it. One side has feet and inches. I pulled it out to nearly 48 feet until I met some resistance and then I stopped in fear that I would break it. The underside of the cloth was up to the 72 mark. I don't know what unit of measurement that would be. Those marks are about 7 3/4 inches apart. The other tool is a mystery. It looks like a T with the top of the T being a small wooden handle. The shaft resembles a 6" nail. It is pointed and has threads on the tip about 1 cm long. Above that, there is a gouge in the side of the shaft about 2 1/4" long. It may have been that once you screwed it into whatever the material was, it was then pushed through and raised so that the excess sawdust or whatever would fill the gouge and be raised up to be removed. Mom guessed that it was used in shoemaking to make the holes to lace the top to the soles but I think the holes would have been too large for that. Does anybody know of a website that would help me to identify and/or date these tools? If somebody is willing to take a look at these tools and help me figure this out, I could email a photo. Perhaps you could show it to an older person who would remember what the little hand tool was used for. Thanks, Valerie Update: After discovering that the tape is actually 66 feet long, I went back and pulled it out again and did not stop where I did before but went all the way to the end, hoping that the manufacturer's name might be there. Unfortunately, it wasn't. However, I discovered the significance of it being 66 feet. Apparently that matches up to 100 Links or 4 Poles, whatever that means. On the underside of the tape, with the unusual "Link" measurements, I discovered that 25 Links equal 1 Pole. Has anybody ever heard of this? Thanks, Valerie

I am not sure if you received my first message on "Old Tools" or not which I sent an hour ago. I have still not received it from the list. Anyway, to update further on the measuring tape, I can now see that the outside edge has 66 feet stamped into the case. There is no manufacturer's name anywhere. Also, for the unusual measurements on the underside of the tape, is there such a measurement as "link". At the first interval, it reads " 1 Link" then each following interval is 2...3.. and so on. I tried to do a search for link as a unit of measure but do you know how many websites have the word "link" in them? Just about every one that exists! Thanks again, Valerie

I recently acquired a couple of old tools that belonged to my great-great-grandfather's brother. That would place them sometime around the late 1800s. One is a cloth measuring tape that you wind up inside a black case. There are two types of measurements on it. One side has feet and inches. I pulled it out to nearly 48 feet until I met some resistance and then I stopped in fear that I would break it. The underside of the cloth was up to the 72 mark. I don't know what unit of measurement that would be. Those marks are about 7 3/4 inches apart. The other tool is a mystery. It looks like a T with the top of the T being a small wooden handle. The shaft resembles a 6" nail. It is pointed and has threads on the tip about 1 cm long. Above that, there is a gouge in the side of the shaft about 2 1/4" long. It may have been that once you screwed it into whatever the material was, it was then pushed through and raised so that the excess sawdust or whatever would fill the gouge and be raised up to be removed. Mom guessed that it was used in shoemaking to make the holes to lace the top to the soles but I think the holes would have been too large for that. Does anybody know of a website that would help me to identify and/or date these tools? If somebody is willing to take a look at these tools and help me figure this out, I could email a photo. Perhaps you could show it to an older person who would remember what the little hand tool was used for. Thanks, Valerie

From: "Evelyn" ewoudenberg@roadrunner.nf.net To: NFLD-LAB-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 12:29 AM Subject: NO ANNOUNCEMENTS!!! > Hi All; > There will be no Obituaries, Births, tidbits etc. posted to the list > until Sunday evening or Monday. I'm outta here for a couple of days > traveling to the Green Bay area and Western Newfoundland, a well deserved > trip <smiles>. Take care! > > Cheers > Evelyn >

Goodmooring Donna, your package arrived by snail mail today. I am wondering if you have connected your Earle family to any of the names recorded as US immigrants? Based on my initial review of the documents I noted that of the 30 plus names in the documents the birth place or place of prior residence were as follows: Bay Roberts..20 Carbonear, NL. 1 Grand Falls, NL ..1 Leading Tickles, NL..1 Port de Grave, NL..2 Prince Rupert, British Columbia...1 St. John's..6 Twillingate..3 One family reported that Joseph Morgan was father, and grandfather. Another family reported next of kin in NL to be Naomi Mercer. I shall report further on these documents as time permits, Sincerely, Lloyd ===== Researching Surnames/ancestors, in NL before 1835.....Batten *Beauchamp, *Beecham, *Bishop, *Buchan, *Bucham, Butler, Churchill, *Dawe (Daw, Dar, Dare, Dorr) Earle, Epps, Fitzpatrick, Foot, *French, *Lamb, Moran, Morgan, *Russell, *Rosewell, *Rosedale, Rosdell, Routh, *Rowswell, *Rowsell, Rowell, *Rousell, Roussell, Snow, *Sparks, *Sparkes, Tucker and their in-laws. (*Timeline Documents on file for these surnames, NL Primary Producers and NDBay History..all family history contributions are welcome) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com

Transcribed Obituaries for Wednesday, July 30, 2003, courtesy of "The Telegram", NL. FURLONG, Agnes (Aggie) - Passed peacefully away on Monday, July 29th, 2003, at St. Clare`s Hospital, Agnes W. Furlong, aged 90 years (last surviving member of the O`Neil family). Predeceased by her husband Alex in 1994. Leaving to mourn with fond and loving memories daughter: Dorothy (Clyde) Best; son: Alex (Evelyn); Remembered by grandchildren who called her Mom, Leslie Anne (Randy), Mary Lou (Glenn), Terry Ann, Doug (Marlene), Alex Jr. (Boo), Allison, Robin, Randy and Gabrielle; cherished great-grandchildren: Corey, Christopher, Jodi, Kerilyn, Jessica, Katie, MacKenzie and Sydney; also nieces and nephews and other relatives and friends. Special thanks to her caregivers Sherrin and Bernadette. Resting at Carnell`s Funeral Home, 329 Freshwater Rd. on Wednesday, July 30, 2003, from 2-4 pm, 7-9 pm, Thursday from 10-12 Noon, 2-4 pm, 7-9 pm. Funeral service to take place on Friday, Aug. 1st. at 10:30 am from the Carnell Memorial Chapel with interment to follow at Holy Sepulchre ! Cemetery. Flowers accepted or donations may be made in her memory to the Heart and Stroke Foundation. For messages of condolences please visit www.carnells.com. July 30, 2003 HOLLOHAN, Marion - (1961 - 2003). Died July 27th, 2003, Marion Hollohan of Gander. Leaving to mourn; her husband Derek Webster, her mother Violet, his mother Webbie, sisters: Doreen, Lillian, Cathy & Cynthia; brothers: John, Philip, Leo, Lew & Jim. She will be greatly missed by the spouses of her family, nieces & nephews, numerous friends, colleagues and students - past and present. Funeral service to be held, Thursday, July 31st at 2 P.M. at St. Joseph`s Catholic Church, Gander. Arrangements through Stacey`s Funeral Home, Gander. To sign our on line guest book visit www.staceysfuneralhome.com. July 30, 2003 MOLLOY, Leo - Passed peacefully away on July 28, 2003 at his home in Peters River in the presence of his loving family, age 81. Predeceased by his mother, father, six brothers, three sisters and son-in-law Eugene Power. Left to mourn his loving wife of 57 years, Catherine. Seven daughters: Mary (Jim Connolly, Theresa (Jim Hawco), Maureen (Dick Making), Marion (Phonse Butler), Kathleen (Roy St. Croix), Bernadette, Madonna; five sons: Richard (Irene), Leo, Gerry (Tracey), Anthony, Adrian; one sister Josephine Hewitt; twenty-two grandchildren, three great-grandchildren; three sisters-in-law: Ita Molloy, Zita Molloy, Monnie Molloy; also a large circle of nieces, nephews, relatives and friends. Remains resting at Stamp`s Funeral Home, St. Vincent`s. Funeral from Sacred Heart Church, St. Vincent`s on Thursday at 2:00 p.m. July 30, 2003 SKINNER, Stanley Carey - of St. John`s passed peacefully away on July 28, 2003 at the L.A. Miller Center in the presence of his family after a courageous battle with cancer, Stanley Carey Skinner, aged 73 years. Leaving to mourn his loving wife Mildred; sons: Barry (Jacquelyn) and Campbell (Doreen); daughters: Barbara, Judy Pinksen, Shirley Harrison-Gosse (Bob) and Susan-Jean; eleven grandchildren; two great-grandchildren and many long time friends and relatives. Special thank-you to Jeff Blackwood and the Coalition for Alternative Medicine (C.CAM.). Cremation has taken place. Visitation at Caul`s Funeral Home, LeMarchant Road on Tuesday and Wednesday from 2 p.m. - 4 p.m. and 7 p.m. - 10 p.m. Funeral Service on Thursday, July 31, 2003 from St. Andrew`s Presbyterian Church at 2 p.m. Interment to follow General Protestant Cemetery. In lieu of flowers, donations in his memory may be made to Canadian Cancer Society, St. Andrew`s Restoration Fund or a charity of one`s choice. July 30, 2003 TAYLOR, Norman - Passed peacefully away at his home in Kelligrews on Monday, July 28, 2003, Norman Taylor, age 84 years. Predeceased by his wife Hazel, April 2003. Leaving to mourn his son Richard; two grandchildren: Holly and Melissa; one sister, Myrtle Aylward; also nephews, nieces and other relatives and friends. Resting at the James J. Hickey Memorial Funeral Home, Kelligrews. Visitation on Wednesday 2-4 p.m. and 7-9 p.m., Thursday 10-12 Noon. Funeral Service on Thursday, July 31, at 2:00 p.m. at All Saints Church, Foxtrap. Interment at the Anglican Cemetery, Dunn`s Hill, Foxtrap. Flowers gratefully accepted or donations may be made to the Parkinson`s Society. July 30, 2003 WEGER, Elisabeth Anna - Died suddenly, but peacefully, while visiting with family in Newfoundland on July 29, 2003, age 91 years. Predeceased by her husband Ignatius. Leaving to mourn sons: John (Jeannine) and Walter; granddaughters: Carole and Renate; grandson Johann; as well as a large circle of friends here in St. John`s as well as in Munich, Germany, especially the entire Trepte and Freisleder families, who were very close to her. Friends are invited to pay their respects at Caul`s Funeral Home on Thursday, July 31, from 2 p.m. to 9 p.m. Funeral Services will be held at a later date in Munich, Germany. July 30, 2003 BATTCOCK, Jerome ³Jerry² - Peacefully on July 28, 2003 at the age of 80 in Mississauga, Ontario. Beloved husband of Ann. Loving father of Elizabeth Sullivan, Judy Poole, Nancy Ray (Peter), Margaret Wilkinson (Andy) and Jerry. Grandad to six grandchildren. Loving brother of Dr. George Battcock (Natalie). Predeceased by sisters Eleanor, Mary and Imelda. Friends will be received at the NEWEDUK FUNERAL HOME - ³MISSISSAUGA CHAPEL², 1981 Dundas St. W., from 5-9 pm on Wednesday. Funeral service will be held on Thursday, July 31, 2003 at 11 am in the Chapel. Interment to follow. July 30, 2003

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DOC.2ACE/120 Message Board Post: Does anyone have information on Elizabeth Anne Roberts Stuckless? She married Uriah Stuckless at Bluff Head Cove 12/14/1874 and must have died in the mid 1880s. I would also like to know the date and place of birth for Elizabeth and Uriah. At the time of the wedding, Uriah was from Purcells Harbour, and the McAlpine Directory shows him in Robert's Arm in 1894. Thanks for any assistance.

Transcribed Obituaries for Tuesday, July 29, 2003, courtesy of "The Telegram", St.John's, NL. CHRISTOPHER, Kathleen Shirley (nee Dalton) - It is with great sorrow that we announce the passing of a very special wife, mother, grandmother, daughter, sister, and friend. Kathy passed peacefully away at the Health Sciences Centre on July 28, 2003, aged 48 years, after a sudden illness. Predeceased by her father Fred; brother Freddie; mother-in-law Mary Christopher and father-in-law John Christopher. Mourning her deeply: beloved husband and best friend of 24 years, Bernard; precious daughter Amanda (finacé Danny); Gran`s special angel Erin; mother Mary; sisters: Beth Seaward (Frank), ON, Alice (Derrick), Shirley (Rob), Halifax; brothers: Rick (Carolyn), Randy (Allison) and Mike, Edmonton; sisters-in-law: Bernadette Doyle (Pat), Lena Chafe (Gil) and Mary Kerrivan; brothers-in-law: Steve (Mercedes), John (Georgina), Dickie (Linda), Paddy (Darlene), Burnaby, BC; as well as a large circle of other relatives and friends. Resting at Barrett`s Funeral Home, 328 Hamilton Avenue on ! Tuesday from 12 noon - 10 pm and on Wednesday from 10 am - 10 pm. Funeral Mass to be held from St. Patrick`s Roman Catholic Church on Patrick Street on Thursday, July 31, 2003 at 9:30 a.m. Cremation to follow. Flowers gratefully accepted or donations in her memory may be made to the Janeway Children`s Hospital. Please visit www.barretts.ca to sign the memorial guest book. ³To live in the hearts of those we leave behind is not to die² July 29, 2003 HEALEY, Josephine (nee O`Driscoll, Brennan) R.N. - Passed peacefully away on July 28, 2003 at St. Patrick`s Mercy Home, Josephine Brennan Healey, R.N., aged 90 years. Predeceased by her husbands William Brennan (1955) and Gerald Healey (1996), and grandson Glen Brennan (2001). Leaving to mourn three daughters: Maureen Brennan, Rosemary Wells (David), Corner Brook, Joan Gierga (Hubert), Summerland, B.C.; son: James (Patsy), four grandchildren Denise Downton, Maureen Hancock, Erin and Ian Brennan, four great-grandchildren and life long friend Kay Roud. Also other relatives and friends. Visitation at Caul`s Funeral Home, LeMarchant Road on Tuesday from 10 a.m. - 10 p.m. Funeral Mass on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 from St. Patrick`s Church at 9:30 a.m. Interment to follow Belevedere Cemetery. Flowers gratefully accepted or donations in her memory may be made to St. Patrick`s Mercy Home Foundation. July 29, 2003 HEFFERNAN, Richard - Passed peacefully away at the Health Sciences Centre on Sunday, July 27, 2003, Richard Heffernan of Fermeuse, age 72 years. Predeceased by his parents: John and Catherine Heffernan; his sister, Mary Kenny; brother-in-law, Frank Kenny; two brothers: John and Tommy Heffernan; also his brothers-in-law: Bernard Hagan, Thomas Ryan and Joseph Keating. Leaving to mourn five sisters: Ann Walsh (Paddy), Fermeuse, Catherine Hagan, Fermeuse, Norah Dunne (Thomas), Renews, Josephine Ryan, Fermeuse, Margaret Keating, Dinn`s Nursing Home, Witless Bay; also cousins, nieces and nephews, special nephew Noel Dunne, friends and special friend Gabriella Nolander. Visitation on Monday, July 28, 7-10 p.m., Tuesday, July 29, 2-10 p.m. Mass of Christian Burial on Wednesday, July 30, from St. Charles Borromeo Church, Fermeuse. Interment to follow at St. Charles Borromeo Cemetery. Donations in his memory made be made to the St. Charles Borromeo Church Committee. July 29, 2003 LEE, Doris Marion (Dos) - Passed peacefully away in the presence of her family, at The Palliative Care Unit of The Dr. Leonard A. Miller Centre on Monday, July 28, 2003, aged 60 years, of Goulds. Predeceased by her parents Gladys and Harry Beaton and sister Pat. Leaving to mourn her loving husband of 40 years, John; sons David, Winnipeg; Paul (Michelle), Goulds; daughters: Beverly Galusha (Darrell), Edmonton; Sandra Kieley (David), Goulds; Bernadette Melvin (Ken), Clarenville; grandchildren: Cassandra, Melissa, Jessica, Erin, Laura and Travis; brothers Hayward Beaton (Barb), Guelph, Ontario; Donald Beaton (Adeline), Bathurst, NB; Terry Beaton (Judy), Burin, NL; sisters Hazel Greening (Melvin), Musgravetown, NL; Stella Corbin (Martin), Grand Falls, NL; Lillian Chapman (Bill), Ottawa, ON; Verna Hayter (Cliff), Norris Arm, NL; Linda Pritchett (Sterling), Mt. Pearl, NL; brother-in-law Robert Lee (Dolo); also a large circle of nieces, nephews and friends. Resting at Ryan`s Funera! l Home, Bay Bulls Tuesday, July 29, from 2-10 p.m. and Wednesday. July 30 from 2-10 p.m. Mass of Christian Burial on Thursday, July 31, 2003 at 10 a.m. from St. Kevin`s Church, Goulds. Interment to follow at St. Kevin`s R.C. Cemetery, Goulds. Flowers gratefully accepted or donations in her memory may be made to the Palliative Care Unit, The Dr. Leonard A. Miller Centre. July 29, 2003 NOSEWORTHY, Edward Charles (Ned) - Passed peacefully away at The Health Sciences Complex on Monday, July 28, 2003, aged 84 years. Predeceased by his brother Tom and sisters Mildred and Elizabeth ³Tim². Leaving to mourn his wife Alma; daughter Sandra (Tony Dawe); granddaughters Heather and Stephanie; brother Jack and sister-in-law Violet. Resting at The James J. Hickey Memorial Funeral Home, Kelligrews. Visitation on Tuesday, 2-4 p.m. and 7-9 p.m. and Wednesday 10-12 Noon. Funeral Service at 2 p.m. from The James J. Hickey Memorial Funeral Home. Cremation to follow. In lieu of flowers, donations may be made to The Heart and Stroke Foundation. A special thank you to the nurses and staff of 4 South B for their tender care and support. July 29, 2003 PRIDDLE, David M. - Passed peacefully away at the Carbonear General Hospital on Sunday, July 27, 2003, David M. Priddle of Victoria, age 54 years. Predeceased by parents: Lloyd and Hilda Priddle and parents-in-law: Edison and Melina Penney. Leaving to mourn wife: Viola; two sons: Sheldon and Scott, both of Victoria; one daughter: Stephanie, Victoria; six brothers: Abel (Alma), Frederick (Lillian) and Lloyd W. (Marie), all of Victoria, Hollis (Dale), Norman (Jeanie) and Gary (Karen), all of ON; also a large number of other relatives and friends. Resting at NOEL`S FUNERAL HOME, WATER STREET, CARBONEAR until 12:00 noon Wednesday, July 30. Funeral service to follow at 2:00 p.m. from the United Church and Cemetery, Victoria. In lieu of flowers; as an expression of sympathy, donations in his memory may be made to Stephanie Priddle Trust Fund for future care. Visitation hours at Noel`s Funeral Home are 10:30 a.m. to 12:00 noon, 2:00 to 5:00 p.m., 7:00 to 9:30 p.m. daily. For any ad! ditional information please call Noel`s Funeral Home at 596-5750 or visit www.noelsfuneralhome.com to sign the memorial guest book. July 29, 2003 RENDELL, Arthur James (Art) - Passed away unexpectedly while on vacation in Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island on Friday, July 25, 2003 at the age of 81. Beloved husband of Glenda for 48 years. Loving father of Rodney and Wendy and her husband Ken Findlay. Cherished Poppa of Trevor Harrison and Brooke Findlay. Dear brother of Lionel Rendell and predeceased by his brother Bruce and by his sisters Pat McLean and Betty MacDougall. Friends are invited to call at the Mackey Funeral Home, 33 Peel Street, Lindsay on Wednesday from 7:00 - 9:00 p.m. Complete funeral service in the chapel on Thursday, July 31st at 2:00 p.m. Cremation to follow. Private interment later at Riverside Cemetery, Lindsay. Memorial donations to the Heart and Stroke Foundation would be appreciated by the family. July 29, 2003 RICKETTS, Mary Wilhelmina - Passed peacefully away on Monday, July 28, 2003, at the Health Sciences Centre, age 70 years. Predeceased by husband Bernard, parents James and Alfreda Strickland, sisters Maisie Strickland and Juanita Cuff, and grandson Matthew. Leaving to mourn: children Dominic (Aletha), Kevin (Bonny), Randy, Martin (Darlene), Pauline, Donna Kavanagh (Cecil), Charmaine Tremblett (Harv) and Joe (Deborah); also, many grandchildren, relatives and friends. As an expression of sympathy, flowers gratefully accepted or donations in her memory may be made to the charity of one`s choice. Arrangements entrusted to Strathies Funeral Home in Bonavista. July 29, 2003 RYAN, Lawrence - Passed peacefully away at the Carbonear General Hospital on Sunday, July 23, 2003, Lawrence Ryan of Brigus formerly of Marysvale, aged 80 years. Predeceased by his first wife, Regina (McHugh) 1981. Leaving behind devoted wife Freda, one son: Kevin (Elizabeth); seven daughters: Carmel Walsh (Henry), Isabelle Curran (John), Mona Hedderson (Edward), Iris Robinson (John), Linda Dobbin (Murray), Agnes Oja (John), Berdina Ryan (Keith); nighteen grandchildren and fifteen great-grandchildren; also a large number of other relatives and friends. Special friend Mike Hedderson. Resting at Broughton`s Funeral Home, Brigus. Funeral to take place on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 at 2:30 p.m. from St. Patrick`s Church, Brigus. Interment to follow in the R.C. Cemetery, Brigus. Flowers gratefully accepted or donations in his memory may be made to the Dr. Bliss H. Murphy Cancer Center. Visitation Hours: Tuesday, 10 a.m. - 10 p.m., Wednesday, 10 a.m. - 2 p.m. July 29, 2003

Hi Listers, I have just re-joined the list after a long spell away. Can anyone tell me if there is an 1881 [or thereabouts] census available for purchase which covers Newfoundland ? Harvey Gilles Plains, Sth. Australia. All outgoing mail scanned by Symantic and guaranteed virus free.

To all:- The reporting of those sending Access to Information forms to both National Archives and Statistics Canada has dropped to a mere trickle! Some have already been rejected, have sent a complaint letter to the Information Commissioner of Canada. Sincerely hope all have saved a copy of their ATI request and complaint letter for Gordon A. Watts. To understand what we mean, go to the following site http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/1911ati.htm Gordon has provided addresses for both Statistics Canada and for National Archives. You may copy his statement, if you prefer, but the statement must be general and ONLY request the 1911 census which was supposed to have been released June 1, 2003. The form is the same for each one -- only change department in "Federal Government Institution" [National Archives or Statistics Canada] http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/gos-sog/forms/Acc-pri/350-57_e.rtf [Form may be saved in Wordpad - filled in on computer] A cheque for $5.00 must be sent with each form, made out to Receiver General of Canada [BONUS:- We may have a refund from National Archives!] Following YOUR letter of rejection (copy for Gordon), complain to John Reid, Information Commioner of Canada. The waiting period is at least 30 days plus "snail mail" time allowance. We apologize that only Canadians may send Access to Information forms -- but some "below the 49th" have relatives who do this for our American relatives -- the name and address must be Canadian! As we are paying the salaries of those in both departments, not personally, but through other means, let staff members remember the summer of 2003 as BUSY! Bottom line - we want the 1911 records without any stupid little tick-off boxes on 2006 census, etc. [Should anyone have questions -- please contact myself or Gordon Watts gordon_watts@telus.net] Muriel M. Davidson muriel_davidson@sympatico.ca Co-Chair, Canada Census Committee Brampton, ON --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.504 / Virus Database: 302 - Release Date: 7/24/03

Friends I've set this message up to go to all my friends in my address book & also to those of you who send me obituaries, files, etc. to prepare for uploading to the NGB site. I will be a little slow in posting my Western Star and Gulf News obituaries to the lists as well. At the present time, I will be off and on the computer - probably more off than on - during the next week or so. As a break, I will find time to sit down to work on some files to try to keep my sanity during this time but please bear with me. I have various filters set up to help handle my mail so that later I will be able to quickly catch up with whatever I don't get done over the next few days. My oldest daughter, Natasha, is getting married this coming Saturday, August 2, so those of you who have had children get married will know what this coming week will be like. This is my first time so this is being a real experience. Also my granddaughter is home and it's her birthday on Thursday - she will be three and believe it or not, she's going to be the flower girl. Also, on Saturday, although it's the wedding day, it's also the bride's father's birthday and also that of the groom's mother - she's one of a twin so it's his birthday as well and they have not been together on their birthday for the last 15 years. So, if you write and don't get a quick response, please bear with me and I'll get back to you as quickly as I can. Thank you for your patience. Ivy -- Ivy F. Benoit (nee Lomond) icq # 1350556 Doyles, Newfoundland http://www.geocities.com/ivybenoit/mypage.html SURNAMES: (B.e.n.o.i.t) (A.u.C.o.i.n) (D.o.u.c.e.t) (L.e.B.l.a.n.c), (L.o.m.o.n.d) (L.o.n.g.u.a.p.e.e) (L.i.l.l.i.n.g.t.o.n) (A.n.d.e.r.s.o.n) (M.e.a.d.e) H.i.n.e.s), (D.i.c.k.s) (B.u.r.d.o.c.k) (C.u.r.r.i.e) (V.a.t.c.h.e.r) (G.i.l.l.i.a.m) (H.a.r.v.e.y) NL Newspaper transcriptions http://ngb.chebucto.org/Newspaper-Obits/1weststar-idx.shtml

Hi Joanne and All: I agree with you wholeheartedly. It is lovely to get clues from others but you MUST do your research to verify, but it is a lot easier to do when you have the info they sent you as a starting point when you are at a dead end. Sometimes it is BINGO and sometimes it is close but no cigar! Since I have joined the NFLD-LAB-L@rootsweb.com, I have met some lovely relatives and we have information to share. I am always happy when I have e-mail from NFLD. I have been taking classes in Genealogy and the things most often repeated are, keep a log of where you went to research, the date, the book, the page, and every scrap of info connected with it. If you just downloaded the whole thing, wouldn't that be boring and not worth much? After all, we treasure the things we work hardest for. (at least I do). To me genealogy is a puzzle and I am continually looking for a missing piece and when I find it, what a rush! I love reading the messages. Jean I think my soul is in Newfoundland