To All: The NGB is back and running. A vote of thanks to the efforts of the people at chebucto getting their systems back up and running after their uninvited guest. >From all of us out here, we thank you, chebucto, for your efforts and it has been appreciated. We appreciate everyone's continued use of our site and will continue to help provide information for your research use. Don Tate

As of 4:00 p.m. Atlantic Time today, 90,000 people in Halifax, Dartmouth were still without electric power including most of the south end of Halifax where Dalhousie University which has Chebucto server is located. Wayne Anstey -----Original Message----- From: ngb_info-owner@chebucto.ns.ca [mailto:ngb_info-owner@chebucto.ns.ca] On Behalf Of Deborah L Jeans Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 9:46 PM To: Don Tate; NFLD LAB; NFLD ngb_info; NFLD nlgs; NFLD Can-Newfoundland Subject: ngb_info Re: [nlgs-l] NGB site outage At 08:19 PM 29/09/2003 -0700, Don Tate wrote: >I just got home and saw a number of messages asking about the site and why >it is off of the air. At this time I don't why chebucto is down. Have sent >a note to them asking what is happening and how long it might be before >they are able to get the system back up and running. > >This note just to let all of you know that the problem is with our >provider and not with the site itself. New Brunswick & Nova Scotia received the full brunt of Hurricane Juan yesterday and today. The power is out in many areas with lines down everywhere and that is probably the reason the site is down. Debbie Jeans, CG(C) Certified Genealogist (Canada) St.John's, Newfoundland ************************************************************** Going on vacation? Prefer the digest mode? Manage your NGB Mailing List subscription http://ngb.chebucto.org/ngb-mail.shtml

Transcribed "Obituaries" for Wednesday, October 01, 2003, courtesy of "The Telegram", St.John's, NL. AYLWARD, Maude - Passed peacefully away at the Leonard A. Miller Centre on Tuesday, September 30, 2003, Maude Aylward, in her 86th year. Predeceased by her husband, Gordon in 2000. Leaving to mourn with treasured memories her ten children: sons: Brian (Gail) of St. John`s, Gordon (Sonny) (Joan Marie) of St. John`s, Ron (Dorothy) of Marystown; daughters: Patricia Kieley of St. John`s, Barbara Aylward of St. John`s, Joan Upshall (Willis) of Whitbourne, Margaret Healey (Stephen) of Goose Bay, Madelyn Kelly (Bill) of Goose Bay, Judy Gorich (John) of North Carolina, and Gwen Maguire of Torbay. Lovingly remembered by her twenty-six grandchildren; four great-grandchildren as well as many other friends and relatives, especially Fintan and Ann Aylward, Margaret Aylward, Madelyn Cotter and Frances Aylward. Resting at Caul`s Funeral Home with visitation on Tuesday 7 p.m. to 10 p.m., Wednesday 2 p.m. to 5 p.m. and 7 p.m. to 10 p.m. Funeral Mass at Pius X Church on Thursday, October 2 at! 9:45 a.m. Cremation to follow. Flowers are gratefully accepted. October 01, 2003 BEESO, Raymond P. - Passed peacefully away at the Health Sciences Centre, September 29, 2003, age 60 years, of Bell Island. Predeceased by his father Stephen, sisters: Alice and Florence. Leaving to mourn with loving memories his mother Elizabeth; sisters: Mary (Jack Dwyer), Madeline (Ron Coady), Marion, Catherine (Gary), Shirley (Phonse); brothers: William, Brian (Sherry), Alonzo (Patricia); as well as many nieces, nephews and other relatives and friends. Resting at Pendergast`s Funeral Home on Wednesday and Thursday from 2-4 pm and 7-9 pm. Funeral Mass on Friday, October 3, 2003 at 10:30 a.m. in St. Michael`s Church. Cremation to follow with inurnment at a later date. October 01, 2003 BULGER, Kathleen Augustine (Clements) - Passed peacefully away at St. Clare`s Mercy Hospital on Monday, September 29, 2003, Kathleen (Clements) Bulger in her 88th year. Predeceased by husbands: Thomas Bulger and John Byrne; sisters: Josephine and May; Brothers: Vincent, Patrick and Harold. Leaving to mourn children, Glendine (Dennis) Martin, Mount Pearl and William (Joe) Byrne, CBS; grandchildren: Shawn and Danielle; brothers: David (Bridget), Botwood and Cyril (Gwen), Digby, NS. Also leaving to mourn special relatives and friends. Resting at Caul`s Funeral Home, LeMarchant Road. Visitation Wednesday and Thursday from 2 p.m. - 4 p.m. and 7 p.m. - 9 p.m. Funeral Mass on Friday, October 3rd, 2003, at 9:30 a.m. from the Basilica. Interment to follow at Holy Sepulchre Cemetery. Flowers gratefully accepted or donations in her memory may be made to the Heart and Stroke Foundation. October 01, 2003 COCHRANE, Peter - Passed away suddenly at his home surrounded by the angels at Bonds Path, Placentia, on Sept. 30, 2003, age 71 years. Predeceased by his wife Marie on October 21, 2002, also predeceased by sisters and brothers: Michael, Thomas, Bill, Mary, Bride, Anne. Leaving to mourn children: Bill (Emma), Patrick, Loretta (Eugene), Thomas, Michael, Rose (Rodney); Grandchildren: Lisa, Holly, Brendan, Loralie, Melissa, William, Shane, Shantelle, Breanna, Ashley, P.J., Ryan, Lindsay; brother: Vincent; sister: Julia and their families; also brothers and sisters-in-law: Michael (Theresa), Patrick (Eliza), Anne (Derm), Madonna (Ed), Bride (Jerry), Rose (Mike), Theresa (Jim), Loretta (Buddy), Marg (Richard); good friend and neighbor Clyde Pearson, other relatives and friends. Resting at Coombs Funeral Home, Placentia. Funeral Mass to take place 11 am on Friday, Oct. 3, at Sacred Heart Church, Placentia. Interment to follow in Coombs Memorial Cemetery, Southeast Placentia. October 01, 2003 COURAGE, Gordon F. - Passed peacefully away at the Health Sciences Centre, on Monday, September 29, 2003, after a struggle with cancer, Gordon F. Courage, aged 78 years. Predeceased by his parents Robert and Mary, brother Jim, two sisters: Florence Collins and Lillian Parrell. Leaving to mourn his loving and devoted wife Grace (Pynn); one sister Vi Hodge (John); two brothers: William (Liza) and Graham (Betty); sister-in-law Barbara Kavanagh; also leaving to mourn a large number of nieces and nephews, other relatives and friends. Resting at Barrett`s Funeral Home, 328 Hamilton Ave., Tuesday 7 p.m. - 10 p.m., and Wednesday 10 a.m. - 10 p.m. Funeral service 11 a.m. Thursday, October 2, 2003 from St. Thomas` Anglican Church with interment to follow at the Anglican Cemetery, Kenmount Rd. As expressions of sympathy flowers are being gratefully accepted or donations in his memory may be made to St. Thomas` Anglican Church. Please visit www.barretts.ca to sign the memorial guest boo! k. October 01, 2003 HUTCHINGS, Jessie F. (Brown) nee Morgan - Passed peacefully away after a courageous battle with cancer at the Health Sciences Centre on September 30, 2003, Jessie Hutchings, aged 89 years. Lovingly remembered by her children: Billy Brown, Alfie Brown, Tom Brown (Evelyn), Calgary, AB, Don Brown (June) and Mildred Brown (Tony Dearness); three sisters: Mary Parsons, Spaniard`s Bay, Elizabeth Bussey, Napanee, ON, Violet Yetman, St. John`s; sister-in-law: Jane Smith, Tilton; eleven grandchildren; four great-grandchildren and a large circle of other relatives and friends. Resting at Carnell`s Funeral Home, 329 Freshwater Road on Wednesday and Thursday from 2-4 & 7-9 p.m. Funeral service to be held at the Anglican Cathedral on Friday, October 3, 2003 at 11:00 a.m. Cremation to follow. In lieu of flowers, donations in her memory maybe made to the Newfoundland Cancer Treatment and Research Foundation or The Eastern Newfoundland Chapter of the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation. October 01, 2003 SLADE, Nelson - Passed peacefully away at the Carbonear General Hospital on Monday, September 29, 2003, Nelson Slade of Salmon Cove, age 63 years. Predeceased by father: Warrick. Leaving to mourn mother: Myrtle; four brothers: Lewis (Mildred), Salmon Cove, Warren, Mississauga, ON, William (Gloria), Guelph, ON and Samuel, Lac-du-Bonnet, Manitoba; one sister: Bernice Slade, Salmon Cove; also a large number of nieces and nephews as well as other relatives and friends. Resting at NOEL`S FUNERAL HOME, WATER STREET, CARBONEAR until 12:00 noon Thursday, October 2. Funeral service to follow at 2:00 p.m. from Riverside United Church and Cemetery, Salmon Cove. In lieu of flowers; as an expression of sympathy, donations in his memory may be made to the Riverside United Church, Salmon Cove. Visitation hours at Noel`s Funeral Home are 10:30 a.m. to 12:00 noon, 2:00 to 5:00 p.m., 7:00 to 9:30 p.m. daily. For any additional information please call Noel`s Funeral Home at 596-5750 or visit w! ww.noelsfuneralhome.com to sign the memorial guest book. October 01, 2003 SPURVEY, James R. - Aged 89 years. Passed peacefully away at Placentia Health Centre, September 30, 2003. Predeceased by parents Richard and Elizabeth, brothers: Leo, Vincent and Dennis and son baby Gerald. Leaving to mourn his loving wife of 55 years, Teresa; eight daughters: Elizabeth (Louis), Phyllis (Andre), Madeline (Denis), Marg (Francis), Agnes (Albert), Josephine (George), Veronica, Regina (William); six sons: Alphonsus (Margaret), Harold (Dana), Richard (Holly), Steve (Claudette), Paul and David (Laura). Also one brother: Alphonsus, two sisters: Annie Duke and Theresa (Gerald) Healey; two sisters-in-law, Agnes Hynes and Margaret Spurvey; also nineteen grandchildren and thirteen great-grandchildren. Also many nieces and nephews and a large circle of relatives and friends. Remains resting at Maher`s Funeral Home, Placentia. Funeral Mass at Sacred Heart Church, Fox Harbour at 2:00 p.m. Thursday, October 2, 2003. Interment at R.C. Cemetery, Fox Harbour. October 01, 2003

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BRETT, CANNING, EVELEIGH, HEAD, HICKS, MINTY, WATKINS, WELLS, and many many more NDB names Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DOC.2ACE/67.2.1.1.4 Message Board Post: Just saw your query that your mother knew my grandfather, Stanley HEAD. EVELEIGHS, WATKINS, and WELLS are in my tree. How are you related to the WELLS' family? My gr gr gr grandmother was Ann WELLS m William HEAD of JBA. Ann was the d/o John WELLS and Sarah (Unk). Have a lot of NDB names in my line. If interested please let me know

In response to my posting of yesterday, a fellow lister suggested that maybe the author, Mr. Fay, used the words 'the twin brother of James Cook' to suggest that Capt. David Buchan and Capt. James Cook were the same type of person in their attitude towards the men under their command. ****** Yesterday I read the following excerpt from the publication titled �Life and Labour in Newfoundland� based on Lectures delivered at the Memorial University of Newfoundland by C.R. Fay, M.A., D.Sc. of Cambridge and Toronto.....University of Toronto press Toronto, 1956. quote from pages 90 and 91: �� This is the Empire in trust. I do not think I have ever felt so proud of my countrymen as when I read this report--acute, courageous, responsible and humane. The follow-up visit of March 5-19, 1811, was briefer. No Indians even sighted: only their traces found. March 19. �Back on the schooner�; and his first thought (for in this was the twin brother of James Cook) was for the health of his men. He ordered: �a regular allowance of hot cocoa eaten with biscuit and a bit of pork or fish: and if very cold, a small glass of rum.� At 10 meat (pork and smoked salmon) or a hare, and a spot of bread and rum; and more at 3 p.m. before cutting wood and throwing up fences. Kettles then got to work, and a good warm supper of lobscouse, but those whose appetites became languid were indulged with tea. Evening spent in singing and repairing shoes, until the setting of watch at 8, when each had a dram, to keep up their spirits.� He cautioned them against mixing snow with water (for often from the thickness of the ice they could get no fresh supply of water). Of spirits numerous small drams were issued, so that there was only a slight excess above, the established allowance. The changing of their stockings and wet things, etc. �occupied my constant attention�--Cook�s too, and in his day Nelson�s. For of such are the world�s born leaders.�� end quote The following questions come to mind: #1. Was the twin brother of James Cook related to the famous �surveyor of the coast of NL�.? #2. Why was he not recorded by his proper name e.g. Joseph Cook? lghr note:) ..someone has recorded that the maiden surname of the world famous Capt. James Cook's mother was BATTS and there is a place in N.D.Bay with the unusual name of "Joe Batts Arm". #3. Was �the twin brother of James Cook� past middle age or in advanced years? #4. Did �the twin brother of James Cook� reside somewhere on the island of Newfoundland? Did he have more family members in NL such as a wife and children, and other siblings or cousins? #5. Was �the twin brother of James Cook� a contemporary or older than the �leader of the 1811 expedition to St. Peter�s Bay, in ND Bay, Newfoundland. also on page 91 was this reference to William Cormack/Carmack 1796-1868, who was buried at New Westminster (Royal City) British Columbia. quote: " He was born at St. John's, but his father, a Scottish merchant recently established there, died when he was seven, and so he was sent back to school in Scotland and later attended classes at Glasgow and Edinburgh Universities. In 1818, at a time when there was a heavy distress emigration from the Old Country, he acted as conductor of emigrant parties to Prince Edward Island. He was concerned next in the starting of Port Glasgow on that Island and in the promotion of grain exports from P.E.I. to Great Britain." end quote. QUESTION: Did Mr. William Cormack/Carmack also act "as conductor of emigrant parties" from NL and PEI to BC before say 1865? We know from history that NL rejected early confederation with Canada and the Governor of NL (Mr. Musgrave) was sent to BC to ensure that BC would become part of Canada since he had faild in this effort during his appointment to NL. No doubt Mr. Cormack knew of Mr. Musgrave and of the strong desire to attract new settlers to the booming towns of Victoria and New Westminster (Royal City). ===== ===== 1784...a quote from the 1938 book titled �The Story of Newfoundland� by J.A. Cochrane, B. Sc. ..Authorized by the Department of Education for use in the schools of Newfoundland.....(lghr note: This textbook was used from 1939 to abt. 1957 and had a deep influence on the minds of my generation) from page 129 Quote: �Owing to the attitude taken by some of the governors there had sprung up a very regrettable sectarian rivalry and even hatred in many parts of the country. It will serve no good purpose to tell the story of the origin of the quarrels, but the year 1784 must be noted as the beginning of better things. In that year the Governor issued a proclamation which allowed all persons to worship as they pleased.� end quote __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Head, Hale, Hicks, Manuel , Pope, Canning, Watkims, Eveleigh and many more with roots in Notre Dasme Bay Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DOC.2ACE/67.2.1.1.3.3 Message Board Post: Hi Bruce How are you connected to the Hale and Evaleigh family? My Great Great Grandfather William Richard Hale married Mary Ann Eveleigh in 1858 at Change Islands.

We should give the people down East a break . They have just come through a terrible hurricane. I'm sure our site will be up abd running when they do. Patience is a Virtue. ----- Original Message ----- From: <NFLD-LAB-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <NFLD-LAB-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 2:01 AM Subject: NFLD-LAB-D Digest V03 #388

John Langdon m. Selina Oake 1. Richard m. Elizabeth Ann Ball 2. Henry m. Julia Ann King 3. Mary m. Daniel Ball 4. Jane b. Aug 1862, Fogo * Jane m. (1) Henry Frampton, June 24, 1880 in Exploits, Nfld. Married by Henry C.H. Johnson. Witness: John Ball & Robt. Guy. Henry Frampton b. 1855, Burnt Isl. Exploits, died in New Brunswick when he fell off roof of CNR shop while working and broke his neck. (2) Henry Greer Children: Lucy Frampton b. 1881, d. 1966 Moncton, NB. m. Wm. John Cripps 1908 Maude Grace Allister Edward Harry George Norman My Langdon line: Thomas Langdon m. Tamar Manuel I am trying to connect Thomas; John m. (1) Mary Owen (2) Selina Oake; Elenor (Ellen) m. (1) Robt. Humphries (2) Edward Evans as siblings. Any input, corrections, etc. appreciated. Please contact me for any further info needed. Thx in advance Alexina Reid

I am no expert on James Cook but there are several pages about him in a wonderful book entitled, "As Near to Heaven by Sea" by Kevin Major. It states that, "Cook had been coming to North America for several years as a naval officer and it was along the St. Lawrence and the coast of Nova Scotia that he had mastered the techniques of surveying" It says nothing about his mother being of Newfoundland. The year he charted several harbours in Newfoundland was 1762. Claire Nault

The conclusion of transcribed "Obituaries" for Tuesday, September 30, 2003, courtesy of "The Telegram", St.John's, NL. POWER, Elizabeth - Passed peacefully away at the Hoyles-Escasoni Home on Monday, September 29, 2003, Elizabeth Power (nee Russell) of St. John`s. Elizabeth was born in Bay Roberts, NL. She is predeceased by her husband Martin (1977) and son John (1994). Leaving to mourn daughters Ann Druken (Harry - deceased) and Judy Scott (Don); daughter-in-law Lucy; grandchildren Pam Druken (Ches), Bill Druken (Barb), Marilyn Tulk (Gary), Karen Druken, Stephen Druken (Karen), Betty Martin (Keith), Carol Boone (Jim), Lynn Ford, Dana Lynn Scott, Donald Scott, Ron Scott; great-grandchildren: Teri Lynn, Sam, Johnathon, Mitchell, Stephanie, DJ, Dylan, Mandy, Lisa, Erin, Sarah, Jeremy, Alex, Jack, Joe, Jenna, Josh, Hunter; great great-grandchild Devon, plus many relatives in Bay Roberts and surrounding area. Resting at Caul`s Funeral Home, LeMarchant Road. Visitation Monday 7 p.m. - 10 p.m. and Tuesday 10 a.m. - 10 p.m. Funeral Mass on Wednesday, October 1st, 2003, at 10:30 a.m. from St. John B! osco Church, Shea Heights. Interment to follow at Holy Sepulchre Cemetery. Special thanks to the staff of the Hoyles-Escasoni Home for caring so well for our mother, grandmother, great-grandmother and great great-grandmother while she was a resident there. We are truly grateful. NO FLOWERS BY REQUEST. September 30, 2003 QUINTON, Phoebe - Passed peacefully away in the presence of her family at Dr. G.B. Cross Memorial Hospital, Clarenville on Sunday, September 28, 2003, Phoebe L. Quinton of Charleston, aged 63 years. Predeceased by her parents Jim and Rita Prince, brothers Adolph and Robert and sister Ramona Bursey. Leaving to mourn with fond and loving memories her husband Cecil of 46 years; daughters Peggy Quinton-Jordan (Chris), Pouch Cove, Debbie Duggan (John), St. John`s and Karen Simmonds (Chris), Canning`s Cove; son Russell (Sadie), Charleston; brother Heber Prince (Sylvia), five precious grandchildren Shelley, Kaitlin, Anna, Krista and Justin; sisters-in-law Elizabeth Prince, St. John`s, Estella Prince-Appleby, Nova Scotia, Dorothy Yetman, Bryant`s Cove and Marina Quinton, Summerville and a large circle of relatives and friends. Resting at Hope United Church, Charleston. Funeral service 2:00 p.m. Wednesday, October 1, 2003 from Hope United Church, Charleston with interment at United C! emetery, Charleston. In her memory flowers gratefully accepted or donations may be made to a charity of ones choice. September 30, 2003 ROSSITER, John Michael - Died tragically, in Halifax, Nova Scotia on Monday, September 29, 2003. John Michael Rossiter, aged 31 years. Predeceased by his grandparents, John and Mary Rossiter, Ted and Nance Kennedy and Margaret Kennedy. Leaving to mourn his parents, Bill and Brenda; brother Billy, sister Karen, as well as a large circle of family (especially Mary Keating (Halifax)) and friends. Resting at Caul`s Funeral Home, LeMarchant Road. Funeral Arrangements to be announced. September 30, 2003 SPRY, Alexander J. - Passed peacefully away at St. Clare`s Mercy Hospital on Monday, September 29, 2003, age 75. Predeceased by loving parents Mary and Edward Spry and sister Gloria. Left with fond and loving memories, one son Edward, four daughters: Teresa (Ed Ryan), Patricia (Paul), Bernadette Wiseman, and Margie; sisters: Mary Spry and Kay Spry; brother: Jack; ten grandchildren; five great-grandchildren, nieces, nephews, other family, friends and neighbors, special granddaughter Deanna and great-grandson Jeremy. Resting at Caul`s Funeral Home, LeMarchant Road. Visitation Tuesday from 7 p.m. - 10 p.m. and Wednesday from 10 a.m. - 10 p.m. Funeral Arrangements to be announced. September 30, 2003 WARREN, John Joseph - 71, died September 28, 2003, with his family in his home in Cornwallis Park, NS, originally from St. John`s, NL. Husband and best friend to Mary Margaret (Margie McCormack); father of Jacqueline, NS, Cathy Ann (Larry Folmes), Manitoba, John, NL, Trevor, ON; brother to Betty Power, Mary McCormack, Maureen Mallard, Geraldine O`Rourke, Patricia Holden, all of NL, Gerry MacNeil, ON, Gordon, ON, Charles, NL, Ronald, ON, Thomas, NL, Alfred, ON; grandfather and poppy to nine grandchildren and one great-granddaughter. Dad served with the Black Watch (RHR), RCR, and PPCLI. In lieu of flowers, donations may be made to Children`s Help Line. Mass will be held Thursday, October 2, 11 a.m. at St. Patrick`s Church, Digby, NS. Reception to follow in church hall. September 30, 2003 YETMAN, Clara - Passed peacefully away at Carbonear General Hospital on Saturday, September 27, 2003, Clara Yetman of Coley`s Point, aged 84 years. Predeceased by husband Frank, sister Mildred (Reuben) Mercer, brothers Victor (Annie) Russell, Llewellyn (Frances) Russell and also brothers Allan &Jackie deceased in childhood. Leaving to mourn: sons David, Darrell (Patti), Derek (Corrine), Neil (Ruby). Daughters: Shirley (Wally) Ballantyne, Yvonne (Harold) Wells, Carol (Ray) Parmentier. Sister Reta Chenell, 12 grandchildren, 15 great-grandchildren and a large circle of other relatives and friends. Resting at Moore`s Funeral Home, Bay Roberts. Visitation Tuesday 10 - 12 Noon; 2 - 5 P.M.; 7 - 9:30 P.M.; Wednesday 10 - 12 Noon. Funeral service to take place on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 at 2:00 P.M. from St. John the Evangelist Anglican Church, Coley`s Point. Interment in the St. John the Evangelist Anglican Cemetery, Coley`s Point. Flowers gratefully accepted or donations may be! made to the St. John the Evangelist Building Fund. September 30, 2003

Transcribed "Obituaries" for Tuesday, September 30, 2003, courtesy of "The Telegram", St.John's, NL. ALLEN, Malcolm (Max) Hector - Passed peacefully away on September 29, 2003 after a long battle with prostate cancer. Max, in his 67th year, was surrounded by his loving family and friends. Predeceased by his parents Malcolm and Evelyn and brother Cambridge. Left with fond memories are his loving wife Laura; one son Terry; daughter-in-law Kim; granddaughter Kali Sue; grandson Riley; brothers: Freeman, Harvey and wife Marie; twin brother Bill and wife Eileen; and a large circle of relatives and friends. A very special thank you to Dr. Pheonia O`Shea and nurses Carmel and Chris, Dr. Essaji and the community health nurses that cared for him. Cremation has already taken place. The family will be receiving visitations by family and friends at Barrett`s Funeral Home, 328 Hamilton Avenue on Tuesday, September 30 from 2-4 and 6-10 p.m. and on Wednesday, October 1 from 10 a.m. - 12 noon. A Memorial service will take place on Wednesday, October 1, 2003 at 2:00 p.m. at the Kingdom Hall ! of Jehovah`s Witnesses, Old Placentia Road, Mount Pearl. Flowers gratefully accepted. Please visit www.barretts.ca to sign the memorial guest book. September 30, 2003 CLEMENTS, George - Passed peacefully away at Leamington, Ont., on Monday, September 29th, 2003, George Clements, age 57 years. Predeceased by his parents Richard and Helen; brothers: James, Frank and Charles. Leaving to mourn sister Irene Walsh (Mike); sister: Olga Ershler (Jack); brother: Richard (Anita); sister: Gladys Hutchings (Nat); special friend Diane St. John, Leamington, Ont.; and many other relatives and friends; special uncle Gordon (Kay) and Aunt May. Resting at Barrett`s Funeral Home, 328 Hamilton Ave., after 10 a.m. Thursday. Funeral service 2 p.m. on Friday, October 3, 2003 from St. George`s Anglican Church, Petty Harbour with interment at St. George`s Cemetery, Petty Harbour. As expressions of sympathy flowers are being gratefully accepted or donations in his memory may be made to St. George`s Anglican Church. Please visit www.barretts.ca to sign the memorial guest book. September 30, 2003 ELLIOTT, Reginald - 1922-2003. Died peacefully at home on Sunday, September 28, 2003, Reginald Elliott, age 81 years. Beloved husband of Joyce (French); cherished father of Pam Rhodenizer and Kathy Vincer (Michael); proud and loving grandfather of Michael, Stephen (Michelle) and David Rhodenizer, Anthony, Mary Pam and Tom Vincer. Cremation has taken place. Funeral service will be held on Tuesday, September 30, 2003, at 3:30 p.m. from the Carnell Memorial Chapel, 329 Freshwater Road. No flowers by request. September 30, 2003 LAYMAN, Madeline Elma (Wheeler) - Passed peacefully away at the Pentecostal Senior Citizens` Home, Clarke`s Beach, on Sunday, September 28, 2003, Madeline (Wheeler) Layman in her 80th year. Predeceased by husbands Thomas Wheeler and Reginald Layman; siblings Beryl Thistle, Hilda Thistle and Wallace Manuel. Leaving to mourn children: Carl (Lucy) Wheeler, Bedford, N.S., Meta (Ray) Norman, Bay Roberts, Marie (Fred) French, Bay Roberts, Donna (Ed) Stagg, Bay Roberts, Marlene (Don) Boland, Mount Pearl, Tom (Dianne) Wheeler, Bedford, N.S., Paul (Heather) Wheeler, Toronto; grandchildren: Peter Norman, Chris (Gail) Stagg, David Stagg, Cathy (Jamie) O`Neil, Leslie Wheeler and Blair, Fred French, Alison Boland and Damian, Ashley Boland and Jarred, Adam Wheeler and Sarah and Mark Wheeler; special great-grandchildren Nicole and Erinn Stagg; brothers: Kent (Shirley) Manuel, Corner Brook, Tom (Fran) Manuel, Thomaston, Conn.; sisters-in-law: Dorothy Wheeler, Scarborough, ON, Olive Wheeler,! Lewisporte, Beatrice Cooze, Topsail; brother-in-law Roy Price, Port Colbourne, ON. Also leaving to mourn many special relatives and friends. Resting at Barrett`s Funeral Home, 328 Hamilton Avenue, from 2-4 p.m. and 7-9 p.m. on Monday and Tuesday. Funeral service at 2 p.m. on Wednesday, October 1, 2003 from Barrett`s Chapel. Interment to follow at Mount Pleasant Cemetery. Flowers gratefully accepted or donations in her memory may be made to the Diabetes Association. Please visit www.barretts.ca to sign the memorial guest book. September 30, 2003 LYVER, Ellen Marie - Passed peacefully away, surrounded by her family, after a courageous battle with cancer, at the Palliative Care Unit of the L.A. Miller Centre, St. John`s, on September 29, 2003, Ellen Marie Lyver (Ella), aged 55 years. Predeceased by her parents, Peter and Annie Lyver. Leaving to mourn her brother: Anthony (Mona), Montreal, Quebec; her sister: Margaret (Donald Rowe), Coquitlam, B.C.; Uncle Allan Lannon and Aunt Catherine Lannon, St. John`s and Aunt Annie Lannon, Golspie, Scotland; three nephews; two nieces; one grand-nephew; two grand-nieces, cousins and a large circle of friends and supporters. Ella attended Mt. St. Vincent University and Memorial University of Newfoundland, graduating with a Bachelor of Education. She enjoyed a 30 year teaching career, 28 years which were at Immaculate Conception School, Colliers, C. Bay. Resting at Caul`s Funeral Home, 84 LeMarchant Rd., St. John`s. Visitation on Tuesday, Sept. 30 from 7 pm - 9 pm and Wednesday, Octo! ber 1 at 2 pm - 4 pm and 7 pm - 9 pm (Vigil service 8 pm). Funeral Mass to be announced later. Interment to follow at Holy Sepulchre Cemetery. In lieu of flowers donations may be made in Ella`s name to the Palliative Care Unit, L.A. Miller Centre, the Nfld. Cancer Society or to the charity of your choice. September 30, 2003 O`MARA, Marie (Breen) - beloved wife of the late Herbert O`Mara, passed peacefully away on Saturday, September 27th, 2003 at the Masonic Nursing Home. She leaves three daughters: Marie Litzinger (Baltimore, MD), Sr. Barbara Wells (Ontario) and Ruth Fowler (St. John`s); seven grandchildren, eight great-grandchildren; one brother Matthew and one sister Rosalita (Doll), both of Ontario; one sister-in-law Mrs. Eileen Pollard. Friends may visit at Caul`s Funeral Home, LeMarchant Road, on Monday, September 29, 7 p.m. - 10 p.m. and Tuesday, September 30, from 2 p.m. - 10 p.m. Mass of Christian Burial on Wednesday, October 1st, 2003, at 9:30 a.m. from St. Teresa`s Church, Mundy Pond Road. Interment to follow at Holy Sepulchre Cemetery. September 30, 2003 O`NEILL, Ambrose J. - Passed away suddenly at St. Patrick`s Mercy Home, Monday, September 29, 2003, age 73 years. Leaving to mourn sisters: Bernadine Chafe, Petty Harbour, Sister Madonna, St. Clare`s Convent, Pauline Walsh, St. John`s, Maureen (Marcel) Perreault, Kathleen (John Guy) Pagé, Montreal, Regina (William) MacKenzie, Antigonish, N.S., Rebecca, Toronto; brothers: Charles (Anna), Fermeuse, Reginald (Judy), Goulds; as well as many nieces, nephews, relatives and friends especially the Sisters and staff at St. Patrick`s Mercy Home. Remains resting at Fahey`s Funeral Home, Fermeuse. Visitation on Tuesday and Wednesday, September 30 and October 1 from 10 - 12, 2-5 and 7-10 each day. Mass of Christian Burial on Thursday, October 2 at 11 a.m. from St. Charles Borromeo Church, Fermeuse. Interment to follow at St. Charles Borromeo Cemetery. Donations in his memory may be made to St. Patrick`s Mercy Home or to a charity of one`s choice. May he rest in Peace September 30, 2003 To be continued:

What do we know about the twin brother of James Cook? Yesterday I read the following excerpt from the publication titled �Life and Labour in Newfoundland� based on Lectures delivered at the Memorial University of Newfoundland by C.R. Fay, M.A., D.Sc. of Cambridge and Toronto.....University of Toronto press Toronto, 1956. quote from pages 90 and 91: �� This is the Empire in trust. I do not think I have ever felt so proud of my countrymen as when I read this report--acute, courageous, responsible and humane. The follow-up visit of March 5-19, 1811, was briefer. No Indians even sighted: only their traces found. March 19. �Back on the schooner�; and his first thought (for in this was the twin brother of James Cook) was for the health of his men. He ordered: �a regular allowance of hot cocoa eaten with biscuit and a bit of pork or fish: and if very cold, a small glass of rum.� At 10 meat (pork and smoked salmon) or a hare, and a spot of bread and rum; and more at 3 p.m. before cutting wood and throwing up fences. Kettles then got to work, and a good warm supper of lobscouse, but those whose appetites became languid were indulged with tea. Evening spent in singing and repairing shoes, until the setting of watch at 8, when each had a dram, to keep up their spirits.� He cautioned them against mixing snow with water (for often from the thickness of the ice they could get no fresh supply of water). Of spirits numerous small drams were issued, so that there was only a slight excess above, the established allowance. The changing of their stockings and wet things, etc. �occupied my constant attention�--Cook�s too, and in his day Nelson�s. For of such are the world�s born leaders.�� end quote The following questions come to mind: #1. Was the twin brother of James Cook related to the famous �surveyor of the coast of NL�.? #2. Why was he not recorded by his proper name e.g. Joseph Cook? lghr note:) ..someone has recorded that the maiden surname of the world famous Capt. James Cook's mother was BATTS and there is a place in N.D.Bay with the unusual name of "Joe Batts Arm". #3. Was �the twin brother of James Cook� past middle age or in advanced years? #4. Did �the twin brother of James Cook� reside somewhere on the island of Newfoundland? Did he have more family members in NL such as a wife and children, and other siblings or cousins? #5. Was �the twin brother of James Cook� a contemporary or older than the �leader of the 1811 expedition to St. Peter�s Bay, in ND Bay, Newfoundland. also on page 91 was this reference to William Cormack/Carmack 1796-1868, who was buried at New Westminster (Royal City) British Columbia. quote: " He was born at St. John's, but his father, a Scottish merchant recently established there, died when he was seven, and so he was sent back to school in Scotland and later attended classes at Glasgow and Edinburgh Universities. In 1818, at a time when there was a heavy distress emigration from the Old Country, he acted as conductor of emigrant parties to Prince Edward Island. He was concerned next in the starting of Port Glasgow on that Island and in the promotion of grain exports from P.E.I. to Great Britain." end quote. ===== 1784...a quote from the 1938 book titled �The Story of Newfoundland� by J.A. Cochrane, B. Sc. ..Authorized by the Department of Education for use in the schools of Newfoundland.....(lghr note: This textbook was used from 1939 to abt. 1957 and had a deep influence on the minds of my generation) from page 129 Quote: �Owing to the attitude taken by some of the governors there had sprung up a very regrettable sectarian rivalry and even hatred in many parts of the country. It will serve no good purpose to tell the story of the origin of the quarrels, but the year 1784 must be noted as the beginning of better things. In that year the Governor issued a proclamation which allowed all persons to worship as they pleased.� end quote __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Frampton Langdon Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DOC.2ACE/123 Message Board Post: Looking for info on Henry George Frampton, b. 11 Jul 1860, son of John and Martha Frampton. He had siblings Lucy and John. Henry married Jane Langdon of Fogo, d/o Henry Langdon and Jane or Selena Oakes. Henry died of an accident in 1901 in Moncton.

Don and List, At 08:19 PM 29-09-2003 -0700, Don Tate wrote: >To all: > >Just got home and saw a number of messages asking about the site and why >it is off of the air. At this time I don't why chebucto is down. Have sent >a note to them asking what is happening and how long it might be before >they are able to get the system back up and running. > >This note just to let all of you know that the problem is with our >provider and not with the site itself. > >We will pass along further information as we get anything back from chebucto. > >All of our apologies for the problem but we have to wait for them to get >the system back up on the air. Hurricane Juan hit Halifax and Dartmouth head on. Many still without power at this time. May be several days before full power restored. Jim Jim & Lois Roberts, New Brunswick, Canada. <jamesr@sprint.ca> Currently Members of MLFHS (#8778), Devon FHS (#7506), Somerset & Dorset FHS (#7623B), LANCSGEN, CBGHA. All email checked by e-Trust EZ Antivirus-updated daily.

At 08:19 PM 29/09/2003 -0700, Don Tate wrote: >I just got home and saw a number of messages asking about the site and why >it is off of the air. At this time I don't why chebucto is down. Have sent >a note to them asking what is happening and how long it might be before >they are able to get the system back up and running. > >This note just to let all of you know that the problem is with our >provider and not with the site itself. New Brunswick & Nova Scotia received the full brunt of Hurricane Juan yesterday and today. The power is out in many areas with lines down everywhere and that is probably the reason the site is down. Debbie Jeans, CG(C) Certified Genealogist (Canada) St.John's, Newfoundland

To all: Just got home and saw a number of messages asking about the site and why it is off of the air. At this time I don't why chebucto is down. Have sent a note to them asking what is happening and how long it might be before they are able to get the system back up and running. This note just to let all of you know that the problem is with our provider and not with the site itself. We will pass along further information as we get anything back from chebucto. All of our apologies for the problem but we have to wait for them to get the system back up on the air. Thanks for all of your support and help. Don Tate

Transcribed "Obituaries" for Monday, September 29, 2003, courtesy of "The Telegram", St.John's, NL. BUTLER, Eric John - Passed peacefully away surrounded by his loving family at the Carbonear General Hospital on Sunday, September 28, 2003, Eric John Butler of South River, aged 74 years. Eric retired in 1985 after 30 years of service with the Argentia Naval Base. Predeceased by his sisters: Susie Andrews and Frances Bishop, brothers: Roy and Bill. Leaving to mourn his loving and dedicated wife Ida, six children: Kurt (Diane), Gary (Sharon), Gail (John McDonald), David, Darlene (John Steele) and Kenneth, seven cherished grandchildren: Karen, David, Shawn, Scott, Matthew, Andrew and Eric, sister-in-law Muriel Boone and a large number of special in-laws, nieces, nephews, and friends. Resting and Moore`s Funeral Home, Clarke`s Beach, with visitation on Monday, 10 a.m.-noon, 2-5 p.m. and 7-9:30 p.m. and Tuesday 10 a.m.-noon. Funeral service on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 at 2 p.m. from All Saints Anglican Church, South River, with interment in All Saints Anglican Cemetery, South! River. In lieu of flowers, donations in his memory may be made to the Parish of the Resurrection ³Until we meet again, may God hold you in the palm of His hand.² September 29, 2003 ELLIOT, Reginald - 1922-2003. Died peacefully at home on Sunday, September 28, 2003, Reginald Elliot, age 81 years. Beloved husband of Joyce (French); cherished father of Pam Rhodenizer and Kathy Vincer (Michael); proud and loving grandfather of Michael, Stephen (Michelle) and David Rhodenizer, Anthony, Mary Pam and Tom Vincer. Cremation has taken place. Funeral service will be held on Tuesday, September 30, 2003, at 3:30 p.m. from the Carnell Memorial Chapel, 329 Freshwater Road. No flowers by request. September 29, 2003 LAYMAN, Madeline Elma (Wheeler) - Passed peacefully away at the Pentecostal Senior Citizens` Home, Clarke`s Beach, on Sunday, September 28, 2003, Madeline (Wheeler) Layman in her 80th year. Predeceased by husbands Tom Wheeler and Reginald Layman; siblings Beryl Thistle, Hilda Thistle and Wallace Manuel. Leaving to mourn children: Carl (Lucy) Wheeler, Bedford, N.S., Meta (Ray) Norman, Bay Roberts, Marie (Fred) French, Bay Roberts, Donna (Ed) Stagg, Bay Roberts, Marlene (Don) Boland, Mount Pearl, Tom (Dianne) Wheeler, Bedford, N.S., Paul (Heather) Wheeler, Toronto; grandchildren: Peter Norman, Chris (Gail) Stagg, David Stagg, Cathy (Jamie) O`Neil, Leslie Wheeler and Blair, Fred French, Alison Boland and Damian, Ashley Boland and Jarred, Adam Wheeler and Sarah and Mark Wheeler; special great-grandchildren Nicole and Erinn Stagg; brothers: Kent (Shirley) Manuel, Corner Brook, Tom (Fran) Manuel, Thomaston, Conn.; sisters-in-law: Dorothy Wheeler, Scarborough, ON, Olive Wheeler, Le! wisporte, Beatrice Cooze, Topsail; brother-in-law Roy Price, Port Colbourne, ON. Also leaving to mourn many special relatives and friends. Resting at Barrett`s Funeral Home, 328 Hamilton Avenue, from 2-4 p.m. and 7-9 p.m. on Monday and Tuesday. Funeral service at 2 p.m. on Wednesday, October 1, 2003 from Barrett`s Chapel. Interment to follow at Mount Pleasant Cemetery. Flowers gratefully accepted or donations in her memory may be made to the Diabetes Association. Please visit www.barretts.ca to sign the memorial guest book. September 29, 2003 MORGAN, Lillian B. - Passed peacefully away at the Carbonear General Hospital on Saturday, September 27, 2003, of Port de Grave, aged 80 years. Predeceased by her husband Harold Stanley Morgan and brother-in-law James Andrews. Leaving to mourn daughters: Violet (Stuart) Porter, Carol Ann (Allan) Morgan; son Clifford (Lillian) Morgan; grandchildren: Leon (Paulette) Porter, Leighton Porter, Lionel (Stephanie) Porter, Bonnie (James) Flowers, Mary Lou Morgan, Crystal Morgan (Jason), Conrad Morgan; great-grandchild Rebecca Flowers; sisters: Della Andrews and Kathleen (Frank) Rose; also a large circle of other relatives and friends. Resting at Moore`s Funeral Home, Bay Roberts, with visitation on Monday, 10 a.m.-noon, 2-5 p.m. and 7-9:30 p.m. and Tuesday, 10 a.m.-noon. Funeral service on Tuesday, September 30, 2003 at 2 p.m. from St. Luke`s Anglican Church, Port de Grave, with interment in St. Luke`s Anglican Cemetery, Port de Grave. Flowers gratefully accepted or donations in her! memory may be made to St. Luke`s Memorial Fund. September 29, 2003

In Northern Bay, in addition to fairies (little ones and big ones) <G> and Jack O'Lantern, ghosts in the graveyards and miscellaneous spirits, we had Hollies. This article, written by Nadine Howell for a class project, will elaborate: The Hollies Of Northern Bay Sands By: Nadine Howell, Grade 7 There are many spooky stories told about Northern Bay Sands. These stories include pirates, lost treasures, spirits, and Jack-O-Lanterns, but NONE is more frightening than the Hollies with their screeching cries. Many a tough man weakened at their knees and felt the cold pierce his heart when one heard their horrifying cries, like voices echoing from the grave. While others have said they were friendly and were looking for companionship. Mr. John Hogan, an old bachelor fisherman, tells he was never so happy when his buddies, the Hollies, were aboard with him or assisted him to haul up his boat on a stormy, dreary morning. Who were the Hollies? According to the history of Northern Bay, Newfoundland, they appeared here about the early 1800's after some 450 fishermen lost their lives in a huge hurricane in Conception Bay. Most of the bodies washed up on the shore of Northern Bay Sands because of the easterly winds and currents. I heard my great grandfather say that for years afterwards many a bone and skeleton were uncovered after the storm changed the sand around. He even told me, which I didn't believe, that as boys they would play soccer with the skulls of the dead seamen. History has it, on the upper part of the park there is a huge grave where many people and various body parts are buried. In fact, the first settlers there who buried those people were forced to move out because of the spirits and the screeching, mournful voices that haunted them on stormy nights. In fact, my father tells me it was only several years ago, on a windy, stormy night, he heard the screams loud and clear. These screams usually lasted for hours and died out around dawn. It is important to note, these deadly cries were never heard in the daytime. Hence, one cannot conclude that it was the wind. Most older people believe these wandering souls are the dead seamen who were either never found or never properly buried. They are spirits who are caught between life and death, seeking to be found so they can be finally put to rest in peace. To this day many people in this local area will not cross the sands in the night time, and very few on a stormy night. I know that Nadine's article is based on fact as I personally have chatted with those Hollies. The strange thing is that they only seemed to appear only after I had been sampling vintage Screech or some such. QUESTION: Are Hollies a local Northern Bay phenomenon or do you folks from other area's of Nfld. have them too. If not, perhaps a local version with another name? Matt

I have just discovered an ancestor from Channel immigrated to Skeena River BC and worked at Inverness Cannery there in the 1890's. Would anyone have heard of others who went there as fishermen? I am wondering why they went and how and how they would have heard of the place, which no longer exists, (Inverness that is). Beth in Calif.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: denny/brynes/bench/collins/pestana Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DOC.2ACE/67.2.1.1.3.2 Message Board Post: Bruce I am also looking for Dennys most of what I have is my Great grandfather Daniel born 1856 Boston died 1938 Everrett Ma I kow we have connections to Nova Scotia at least one of Daniels sons was born there 1903 my father went to visit a cousin around 1968 I have heard a story about 3 brothers who were ship builders in Nova Scotia . My fathers name was Maurice Martin Denny born 1927 in Everett Ma .I would like to know if we can make any connections to our families. Kathy.