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    1. [NFLD-LAB] Re: ngb_info Contents of Marriage certificate
    2. Deborah L Jeans
    3. At 10:35 AM 09/10/2003 -0400, Michael Cooper wrote: >Does anyone know what is contained on a typical post 1891 marriage >certificate when ordered from the Dept of Gov't Services? The web site >doesn't appear to say. I am primarily interested in determining if the >certificate might state the name of the parents, or the town of birth of >people, or both? Thanks to anyone who responds. It will not tell you the parents or place of birth. It lists the names of the bride & groom, date and place - not church. Sometimes the age is there IF the info was given to Vital Stats in the first place Debbie Jeans, CG(C) Certified Genealogist (Canada) St.John's, Newfoundland

    10/09/2003 10:50:39
    1. [NFLD-LAB] Matt
    2. Cheryl McGregor
    3. I don't know Matt, which way do you think it will eventually go?: 1. Tombstones with coinboxes attached to the sides like the old restroom doors. Put the coins in and the front of tombstone opens so you can read the info. 2. A special password that opens a lock so only those granted the rights to the password can view the tomstone. -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/

    10/09/2003 10:42:33
    1. [NFLD-LAB] Surnames: Baily, Beechey, Blackmore, Buchan, Campbell, Chappel, Cormack, Curtis, Howley, Micmacs, Nicholas, Parry, Peyton, Power, Saunders, Sweetman etc.
    2. Lloyd Rowsell
    3. Surnames: Baily, Beechey, Blackmore, Buchan, Campbell, Chappel, Clark, Cormack, Curtis, Howley, Lewis, Micmacs, Nicholas, Parry, Peyton, Power, Saunders, Sweetman, etc. Contemporaries of famous Americans � M. Lewis and William Clark� who with others and a Newfoundland dog completed a journey from the Atlantic to the Pacific in the years 1804 to 1806, in search of a North West Passage water route. Question: What were the names of the individuals who accompanied Lewis and Clark? �Timeline�....."quotations"..taken from the publication titled �The Beothucks or Red Indians...the Aboriginal Inhabitants of Newfoundland� by James P. Howley, F.G.S. ...Cambridge: at the University Press 1915 1780-1813...page 176...�David Buchan was born in Scotland in 1780. In 1806 he held a Lieutenant�s commission in the British Navy. Exactly when he first came to Newfoundland I have been unable to ascertain, but Lieut. Chappel in his Voyage of the 'Rosamund' speaks of Buchan in 1813 as having been several years engaged in surveying the coast line.� 1802-1803....page 179...�He married a Miss Maria Adye about 1802-03. From his granddaughter, Miss Eva Buchan of 17 Kidbrooke Park Road, Blackheath, S.E., England, I have learned some few further particulars of Capt. Buchan, and have been also kindly furnished with a photograph of him copied from an oil painting.....Her father was his eldest son and was with him on his Arctic Expedition, and she often heard him describe it. He died when she was quite young. She does not say what other descendants Capt. B. left. On her grandmother�s side, two of her great uncles were distinguished officers, the one under Wellington, and the other a Flag-Lieut with Nelson.� abt. 1805-1810 birth of a son named David, to Capt. David Buchan and his wife (nee Adye/Eddy)..from another source: 1833.....on July 4th, 1833 Capt. David Buchan of the yacht �Forte� married at Halifax, son of David Buchan, High Sherriff of this Island (Newfoundland) 1808...page 176..�I find the name of Capt. David Buchan, J.P., together with the names of R. Parry, Surrogate, and Josiah Blackmore, J.P., signed to a decree of the Surrogate Court at Placentia, Sept. 12, 1808, in a suit of Maurice Power versus Thos. Baily, agent for Saunders, Sweetman & Saunders. 1810-1820....caption under photo: �Capt. David Buchan, R.N. who made the memorable expeditions to Red Indian Lake in 1810-11 and again in 1820.� another source: 1810....�His vessel, schooner (the Adonis) was anchord in Ship Cove (now Botwood) and made secure for the winter by heavy chains passed around the trunks of stout trees on shore.� 1813....page 177...�In 1813 his ship, together with the �Rosamund�, Capt. Campbell, convoyed the Newfoundland fishing fleet home to England. They left St. John�s in December, and had a very stormy passage. from Prowse::1815...26th of August, Captain David Buchan, R.N., took possession of St. Pierre and Miquelon...source Prowse, page 655...also Battle of Waterloo. Second Treaty of Paris. Last Treaty made between England and France about the Newfoundland Fishery. 1816...page 177....�In 1816 he was promoted to Commander, and was again on this station. During the absence of the Governor that winter he acted as his deputy in command here.� 1817-1818...page 177...�Again during the following winter of 1817-18�.....�From the records we learn that Buchan had the distribution of 10,000. pounds stg. sent by the British Government for the relief of the distressed.� 1818....page 177...�During the summer of 1818 two celebrated Arctic expeditions were undertaken, the one in command of Ross and Parry, was sent in search of a North West Passage, the other in command of Capt. Buchan and Lieut. Franklin, proceeded towards the pole by way of Spitzbergen. Capt. Buchan in the �Dorothea� was in chief command, while Lieut. Franklin in the �Trent� was second. This was the celebrated, and ill-fated Sir John Franklin�s first expedition into Arctic waters. Other heros of Arctic fame took part in this expedition, Beechey was First. Lieut;, and Back, Admiralty Mate on board the �Trent� with Franklin.� 1819....page 179...�Substance of Mr. Curtis�s Story...In the October of 1819, I left St. Mary�s to go to Twillingate where Mr. John Peyton wanted me to build a schooner......� 1820....page 178...�During the year 1820 Buchan acted as floating Surrogate in the �Egeria� at Harbour Grace.� 1822....page 178...�In 1822, Buchan was tried by court-martial, at St. John�s on board H.M.S. �Albion� for some alleged disobedience of orders, but he was honourably acquitted. The charge was brought against him by Capt. Nicholas. 1824...page 176...�In 1824, two Canadian Indians (Micmacs?) reported seeing a party of Red Indians, with two canoes, on the right bank of the Exploits River, about half way between the coast and the great lake.� 1825-1826...page 178...�In 1825 he was appointed Surrogate, and at the first term of the Supreme Court in 1826, High Sheriff. Previous to this date he had been made a Justice of the Peace for the Island.� 1828...page 179...�I learn from a letter of Mr. W.E. Cormack that Buchan was in Newfoundland as late as 1828.� from another source: 1833.....on July 4th, 1833 Capt. David Buchan of the yacht �Forte�married at Halifax, son of David Buchan, High Sherriff of this Island (Newfoundland) 1835...page 179...�Again from the records, a letter from Col. Secretary, Mr. Joseph Crowdy of date Sept. 1, 1835 acknowledges receipt of a letter from Capt. Buchan tendering his resignation of the High Sheriffship, dated August 27th, 1835. He probably left the country for good that year.� 1838-1839....page 179...�I learn from Barrow�s �Arctic Voyages� that Buchan was lost in the �Upton Castle�, coming from India, a ship that was never heard of after the 8th of December 1838. His name was removed from the list of living Captains in 1839. Dear Fellow Listers, I would be delighted to receive more 'timeline' information about this man named David Buchan and his family of inlaws, ancestors and descendants. Sincerely, Lloyd __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com

    10/09/2003 06:34:20
    1. [NFLD-LAB] Contents of Marriage certificate
    2. Michael Cooper
    3. Does anyone know what is contained on a typical post 1891 marriage certificate when ordered from the Dept of Gov't Services? The web site doesn't appear to say. I am primarily interested in determining if the certificate might state the name of the parents, or the town of birth of people, or both? Thanks to anyone who responds. Michael Cooper

    10/09/2003 04:35:50
    1. [NFLD-LAB] some names found
    2. Phil
    3. http://www.canadiana.org/ECO/PageView/9_02222_15/0137?id=dc5ae94f0f2d471d Let me know if the url opens or not. Some Labrador names from 1862. Cheers, Phil

    10/08/2003 05:25:12
    1. [NFLD-LAB] Re: Julia Osmond
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Locke,Stuckless Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DOC.2ACE/87.1.1.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: My nephew, Charile Beal (has a Web site) just returned from Newfoundland and sent me the same information you posted. Thank you for the replying. I found my information on FamilySearch, IGI British Isles. Birth of Caroline STuckless about 1836 at Blithfield, Stafford, England death about 1912. Married about 1857 in Blithfield, Stafford England to Thomas Locke. I have tried to get the documents from the internet, but haven't been successful. Could be a different couple with the same names??????? Locke is a common name.

    10/08/2003 09:26:34
    1. [NFLD-LAB] Origins of Henry Stone of Pinhoe
    2. Sharon Dale Stone
    3. I am descended from Henry Stone who was born 1755 in Pinhoe Devon and then moved to Nfld and married Mary Hogarth. I have a lot of information about his descendants but have long been curious about his birth family. I was in touch with the Devon Records Office last year and learned that Henry's parents were Thomas and Grace [Ashford] Stone of Pinhoe Devon who married in July 1737 and had the following children: 1742 Grace Stone baptised 1746 Nicolas Stone baptised 1751 Thomasin daughter of Thomas and Grace Stone baptised 5th May 1753 Ambrose son of Thomas and Grace Stone baptised 1755 Henry son of Thomas and Grace Stone baptised 1760 Sarah daughter of Thomas and Grace Stone baptised This information is from bishop's transcripts. Many of the DRO records were destroyed during WWII bombing and I was unable to find anything else. But it seems likely that Henry's father Thomas was not from Pinhoe. He may have been from the parish of Fivehead in Somerset, but this is so far just speculation. Hope this info is helpful to someone. Sharon

    10/08/2003 08:22:55
    1. [NFLD-LAB] BAN on Cemetery Photos
    2. Joanne
    3. This just in. Ottawa (AP) Oct 8- Due to the large number of calls to the ministry of interior regarding the apparent prohibition of tombstone photographs of former Prime Ministers a statement of clarity has been issued. While it seems the main concern was about photographs on private property, investigative journalists revealed the ministry's main concern was based on some sort of dress code issue. In a statement released at least one official asserted, "Look, it is not so much the pictures being taken but clearly if it were your relative would you not want some ban enforced ?" The official then made some obscure reference to photos circulating the net... http://ngb.chebucto.org/Cemetery/penney-cem.shtml On second thought maybe there should be some kind of ban enacted... Sorry Matt, I just couldn't resist. :) Joanne *this is a joke!

    10/08/2003 05:37:01
    1. [NFLD-LAB] Re: Julia Osmond
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/DOC.2ACE/87.1.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: The info I have is of a Thomas Locke married an Annie Stuckless on Oct,23,1856,Moreton's Harbor,NFLD. Annie Parents were Joseph Stuckless and Rosannah Lucas. Joseph Stuckless was born c1800,in England and he was the son of Richard Stuckless born,c1775 in England and a woman named Small. Thomas and Annie had several children and the names of two of them was Alexander and Joseph. Lots of names the same as your email mentions. This marriage of Thomas and Caroline you have.In what year did it occur. Sorry about long delay,why I missed this message,must of been when I had computer trouble. Oscar

    10/08/2003 04:06:49
    1. RE: [NFLD-LAB] Cemetery ban, etc.
    2. Joseph Moore
    3. Matt: Many a true word said in jest. For sure, many an "stupid" word said if you cannot take pictures of tombstones. I am cognitively impired, can't read, takes a few snaps, goes to Wal-mart then has "She Who Must Be Obeyed" read them out to me just like the Obits. If you do not want the tombstones "read" do not put one there. Same for obids. Question: I know partaridge berries were put in the water barrel as a way for vitamin C to be maintained over the winter. Where dogberries ever used WITH SUCCESS? -----Original Message----- From: Margaret Murray [mailto:margie_1@telus.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 12:32 AM To: NFLD-LAB-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NFLD-LAB] Cemetery ban, etc. I must say that I have been impressed with all the work you do for the list, Evelyn. It is truly appreciated. I must also say that I really enjoy Matt's sense of humour. This is the third time today that I have checked my email. Carry on, everyone! Margaret Murray ==== NFLD-LAB Mailing List ==== Please do not submit, or respond to, virus alerts, chain letters, or other off-topic material sent to the list.

    10/08/2003 02:58:19
    1. Re: [NFLD-LAB] IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - OBIT BAN
    2. Edbld
    3. This sounds like a very bad or even worse, a sad College Fraternity joke. Besides being asinine, what controls would any one person or entity have over anyone else reading any printed matter,(with the exception of a copyright) regardless of who paid for it. Matt. I think you need to state your sources for this "rule" and official document to such a ridiculous statement. ( an include the source of the photo ban "rule" too.) Edd S. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Mullaly" <2matt@rogers.com> To: <NFLD-LAB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [NFLD-LAB] IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - OBIT BAN > Vince, > > As I stated, similar to the recent ban on taking photos of headstones, > another new "rule" is ABSOLUTELY NO READING of obits in the newspaper > unless you were very close to the deceased. Those notices are published and > paid for by the surviving relatives and the reading of them by "outsiders" > is now considered an invasion of privacy. > > Rather than invade some dead person's privacy, it's better to skip the obit > section altogether and go to sports section or the comics or Dear Abby. > Whatever you do, DON'T READ STRANGERS' OBITS. Of course you can read an > announcement of the death of a really close family member - mother or > father or whatever. Indeed, you may even want to attend their funeral. You > can usually get a feel as to whether an obit relates to a close relative by > looking at the name at the beginning of the announcement. > > I'll keep watching this situation and will keep the list advised. > > Matt > > > > > Now lets not get too ridiculous here. Anything written in a newspaper is > > there for public consumption and in the case of obituaries, is often > > submitted by the relatives of the deceased. If they don't want this > > information made public, they have only to omit that information in their > > submission to the newspaper. > > > > Vince > > > > > ==== NFLD-LAB Mailing List ==== > Co-List Admins of Nfld-Lab mail list: > Vera Short : short9647@rogers.com > Glynn Hewlett: glynn.hewlett@sympatico.ca --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.522 / Virus Database: 320 - Release Date: 09/29/2003

    10/07/2003 04:32:10
    1. Re: [NFLD-LAB] IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - OBIT BAN
    2. Matt Mullaly
    3. Vince, As I stated, similar to the recent ban on taking photos of headstones, another new "rule" is ABSOLUTELY NO READING of obits in the newspaper unless you were very close to the deceased. Those notices are published and paid for by the surviving relatives and the reading of them by "outsiders" is now considered an invasion of privacy. Rather than invade some dead person's privacy, it's better to skip the obit section altogether and go to sports section or the comics or Dear Abby. Whatever you do, DON'T READ STRANGERS' OBITS. Of course you can read an announcement of the death of a really close family member - mother or father or whatever. Indeed, you may even want to attend their funeral. You can usually get a feel as to whether an obit relates to a close relative by looking at the name at the beginning of the announcement. I'll keep watching this situation and will keep the list advised. Matt > Now lets not get too ridiculous here. Anything written in a newspaper is > there for public consumption and in the case of obituaries, is often > submitted by the relatives of the deceased. If they don't want this > information made public, they have only to omit that information in their > submission to the newspaper. > > Vince >

    10/07/2003 02:34:11
    1. [NFLD-LAB] Cemetery ban, etc.
    2. Margaret Murray
    3. I must say that I have been impressed with all the work you do for the list, Evelyn. It is truly appreciated. I must also say that I really enjoy Matt's sense of humour. This is the third time today that I have checked my email. Carry on, everyone! Margaret Murray

    10/07/2003 02:02:18
    1. [NFLD-LAB] Re: NFLD-LAB-D Digest V03 #403
    2. Brenda Faubert
    3. Don't you think all of this is getting out of hand. If people are overly sensitive about family privacy,why do they put an obituary in the Newspapers at all. Much less including husband/wife,children and most often children and sibling's place of residence. If the Newspapers can publish this to the public then wouldn't it be open to them. Such nonsense. I can understand genealogy not publishing living relatives, but headstones and public death and birth announcements,which have already been published. Good Grief!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: <NFLD-LAB-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <NFLD-LAB-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 1:34 PM Subject: NFLD-LAB-D Digest V03 #403

    10/07/2003 01:43:45
    1. Re: [NFLD-LAB] IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - OBIT BAN
    2. Evelyn
    3. Hi Matt; Thank you for the kind warning!! as for my contributions of the "Obituaries & Birth Announcements", I DO have permission to post these, whether "The Telegram" asked the persons {living relatives} I can only assume that they would likewise obtain their consent. I can stop contributing these postings, not a problem at all for me!!, very strange indeed that I did not receive a warning from the Editor of the newspaper or a telephone call, as they do have my info. If this is the wish of the "List Owners" and other listers, not to post these topics any longer, feel free in contacting me. In any case, since this topic has gotten so overly heated, I would rather not hurt any lister's feelings and will with-hold any further postings of "Obits,. Birth Announcements" or any other topic. Have A Nice Evening Evelyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Mullaly" <2matt@rogers.com> To: <NFLD-LAB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 5:01 PM Subject: [NFLD-LAB] IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - OBIT BAN > > Have you listers heard about the OBIT ban just announced? > > As of now, not only is it forbidden to REPOST published obits ( that means > you Evelyn, and Ivy and Bill) but it's also verboten to even READ them in > the first place. > > The purpose of the ban is to protect the privacy of the deceased as well as > their family.This makes a lot of sense to me as they're the ones who pay for > the publication of the obits in the first place. > > Assuming that there's always people out there who don't have proper > respect for the dead and who would perhaps cheat on this ban and read the > published obits anyway I gather that there's a move afoot to publish future > obits in an encrypted format. That would preclude anyone not having the > decryption key from reading these death announcements. Such decoding keys > would only be held by the immediate family, the RCMP, CSIS and certain > chartered banks. > > So a warning to listowners Sue and Vera: If you don't want to offend the > sensibilities of these folks and perhaps even incur their wrath in the form > of a lawsuit, I'd suggest that you institute a rule forbidding the mention > of any specific person (living or dead) on the lists - starting > immediately. > > I appreciate that this would perhaps somewhat limit the value of the lists > but perhaps this could be compensated for by more emphasis on living people. > And names are not really necessary. > > For example, genealogy software companies, well known for being ahead of > their time, must have been aware of the possibility of this ban because, in > the past few years, I've been sent genealogy files by various people with > portions that look like this: > > > DESCENDANTS OF JOHN SMITH > > > 1 - John SMITH b: 1900 d: 1980 > + Mary JONES b: 1905 d: 1990 > > 2 - Living > + Living > > 3 - Living > + Living > > Just think how simple it will be when whole trees look like this with no > mention of people's names or relevant dates or places at all. That'll make > future research a snap. I can hardly wait. > > Regards to all. > > Matt > > (whooooops!) > > Change that to: > > Living > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== NFLD-LAB Mailing List ==== > Roll Call Page for Nfld-Lab Mail List: > http://amoose4.tripod.com/ > >

    10/07/2003 12:03:24
    1. RE: [NFLD-LAB] IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - OBIT BAN
    2. Gordon Lane
    3. Come on folks, Matt's pulling your leg. Matt (or should I say Living #23,567 - as identified by my genealogy program) behave yourself :-) Regards Gordon Lane Vice Chair - Facilities Editor Chinook Alberta Family Histories Society http://www.afhs.ab.ca Family website http://www.rumbolt.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Mullaly [mailto:2matt@rogers.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 1:31 PM > To: NFLD-LAB-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NFLD-LAB] IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - OBIT BAN > > > > Have you listers heard about the OBIT ban just announced? > > As of now, not only is it forbidden to REPOST published > obits ( that means you Evelyn, and Ivy and Bill) but it's > also verboten to even READ them in the first place.

    10/07/2003 11:00:32
    1. Re: [NFLD-LAB] IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - OBIT BAN
    2. Ernie Kraut
    3. I'm glad my wife's relative died soon enough for us to find out from Evelyn's wonderful efforts. Love to all ... and thanks Evelyn!, Encrypt (Ernie, Nashua, NH, USA) > <snip> In any case, since this topic has gotten so overly heated, I would rather not hurt any lister's feelings and will with-hold any further postings of "Obits,. Birth Announcements" or any other topic. Have A Nice Evening, Evelyn

    10/07/2003 10:59:31
    1. Re: [NFLD-LAB] IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - OBIT BAN /REPLY
    2. Tweetybird
    3. <snip>Have you listers heard about the OBIT ban just announced? As of now, not only is it forbidden to REPOST published obits ( that means you Evelyn, and Ivy and Bill) but it's also verboten to even READ them in the first place.<snip> Where did you read/hear about this ban or is your mind over active It sure sounds like a pile of B.S. to me. Carol (tweetybird) Home page:<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~tweetybirdgenealogy/> Visit my home page for "Home Children" information and other "world wide" links plus various passenger lists. Searching : Hart, Haslip, Jackson, Stevens, Little, Budge, Chipman, Welch, Russell, Johns & Glover --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.524 / Virus Database: 321 - Release Date: 10/6/03

    10/07/2003 10:47:55
    1. Re: [NFLD-LAB] IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - OBIT BAN
    2. Matt Mullaly
    3. Evelyn, Read my post again. It was written with my tongue firmly in my cheek. It was meant to be a sarcastic response to the "no photos in graveyards" silliness. Sorry if I led you astray. And DON'T STOP posting your obits. Regards. Matt > > Hi Matt; > Thank you for the kind warning!! as for my contributions of the > "Obituaries & Birth Announcements", I DO have permission to post these, > whether "The Telegram" asked the persons {living relatives} I can only > assume that they would likewise obtain their consent. > I can stop contributing these postings, not a problem at all for me!!, very > strange indeed that I did not receive a warning from the Editor of the > newspaper or a telephone call, as they do have my info. > If this is the wish of the "List Owners" and other listers, not to post > these topics any longer, feel free in contacting me. In any case, since this > topic has gotten so overly heated, I would rather not hurt any lister's > feelings and will with-hold any further postings of "Obits,. Birth > Announcements" or any other topic. > > Have A Nice Evening > Evelyn > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matt Mullaly" <2matt@rogers.com> > To: <NFLD-LAB-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 5:01 PM > Subject: [NFLD-LAB] IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT - OBIT BAN > > > > > > Have you listers heard about the OBIT ban just announced? > > > > As of now, not only is it forbidden to REPOST published obits ( that > means > > you Evelyn, and Ivy and Bill) but it's also verboten to even READ them > in > > the first place. > > > > The purpose of the ban is to protect the privacy of the deceased as well > as > > their family.This makes a lot of sense to me as they're the ones who pay > for > > the publication of the obits in the first place. > > > > Assuming that there's always people out there who don't have proper > > respect for the dead and who would perhaps cheat on this ban and read the > > published obits anyway I gather that there's a move afoot to publish > future > > obits in an encrypted format. That would preclude anyone not having the > > decryption key from reading these death announcements. Such decoding keys > > would only be held by the immediate family, the RCMP, CSIS and certain > > chartered banks. > > > > So a warning to listowners Sue and Vera: If you don't want to offend the > > sensibilities of these folks and perhaps even incur their wrath in the > form > > of a lawsuit, I'd suggest that you institute a rule forbidding the mention > > of any specific person (living or dead) on the lists - starting > > immediately. > > > > I appreciate that this would perhaps somewhat limit the value of the lists > > but perhaps this could be compensated for by more emphasis on living > people. > > And names are not really necessary. > > > > For example, genealogy software companies, well known for being ahead of > > their time, must have been aware of the possibility of this ban because, > in > > the past few years, I've been sent genealogy files by various people > with > > portions that look like this: > > > > > > DESCENDANTS OF JOHN SMITH > > > > > > 1 - John SMITH b: 1900 d: 1980 > > + Mary JONES b: 1905 d: 1990 > > > > 2 - Living > > + Living > > > > 3 - Living > > + Living > > > > Just think how simple it will be when whole trees look like this with no > > mention of people's names or relevant dates or places at all. That'll make > > future research a snap. I can hardly wait. > > > > Regards to all. > > > > Matt > > > > (whooooops!) > > > > Change that to: > > > > Living > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== NFLD-LAB Mailing List ==== > > Roll Call Page for Nfld-Lab Mail List: > > http://amoose4.tripod.com/ > > > > > >

    10/07/2003 10:29:08
    1. [NFLD-LAB] "OBITS."------FIELD, KEARNEY, WHALEN
    2. Evelyn
    3. Transcribed "Obituaries" for Tuesday, October 07, 2003, courtesy of "The Telegram", St.John's, NL. FIELD, Stephen Ronald - Passed away suddenly on October 5, 2003, Stephen Ronald Field, age 45, of Mount Pearl (formerly of Ottawa). Predeceased by beloved niece Christina and special grandparents. Leaving to mourn with precious memories, his loving wife Colleen (White) and two darling daughters: Emily and Charlotte. Also sharing the loss are his parents, Ron and Lois Field in Nova Scotia; brother Ken and wife Deborah and their son Shawn in Ottawa. As well, mother and father-in-law Alex and Betty White; brother-in-law Carl (Arlene) and their son Alexander; brother-in-law Terry, and a large circle of relatives and friends. Resting at Barrett`s Funeral Home, 1081 Topsail Road, Mount Pearl from 2-5 and 7-10 p.m. on Tuesday and Wednesday. Funeral Mass to be held at 11:00 a.m. on Thursday, October 9, 2003 at St. Peter`s Parish, Mount Pearl. Interment to follow at Holy Sepulchre Cemetery. Flowers gratefully accepted or donations in his memory may be made to the Heart and Stroke Fou! ndation. Please visit www.barretts.ca to sign the memorial guest book. ³Let me not to the marriage of true minds Admit impediments. Love is not lov Which alters when it alteration finds, Or bends with the remover to remove. O, no! It is an ever-fixed mark That looks on tempests and is never shaken; It is the star to every wand`ring bark, Whose worth`s unknown, although his height be taken.² October 07, 2003 KEARNEY, Rhodie Francis (Barber and Poet) - Passed peacefully away at the L.A. Miller Centre on Sunday, October 5, 2003, age 60 years. Predeceased by his parents, Kathleen (1945) and Richard (1982). Leaving to mourn his brother Richard (Ursula), Germany; step-brothers: Robert McGrath (Sheilagh), St. John`s, Dermot McGrath (Betty Anne), Belleville, Ontario; extended family of Maloneys: Ron, Frank (Ann), St. John`s; Jerry (Joan), Helen, Florence (Peter), Margaret (Harold), Toronto. Predeceased by Thomas and Elizabeth Maloney and Dick Maloney. Also leaving many friends, including the staff and patients at the D.V.A. where he volunteered for many years, and the staff of the Miller Centre and Ocean View Home, Kelligrews, as well as many nieces and nephews. At his request, cremation has taken place. Visitation at Caul`s Funeral Home, LeMarchant Road on Tuesday, October 7, from 2 p.m. - 4 p.m. and 7 p.m. - 9 p.m. Funeral Service on Wednesday, October 8, 2003, at 10:30 a.m. from Cau! l`s Chapel. Inurnment at the Kearney Family Plot, Mount Carmel Cemetery. In lieu of flowers, donations in his memory may be made to the Dr. H. Bliss Murphy Cancer Centre. October 07, 2003 WHALEN, Emily Louise (nee Wheadon), Mount Pearl - Passed away on October 6, 2003 at the Palliative Care Unit of the Miller Centre, Emily Louise Whalen, aged 77 years. Leaving to mourn her loving husband Walter Sr.; her children: Calvin (Paulette), Walter Jr. (Peggy), Linda (Wayne Mercer), Cynthia, David (Priscilla), Glen (Colleen), Barry (Heather), Jeanette (Joseph Hickey); grandchildren: Brian, Jennifer, Janice, Darren, Lisa, Cory, Shaun, Matthew, Veronica, Allan, Nathan, Emily, Alex, Marc, Adam, Emma; great-grandchildren: Jillian and Amanda; sisters-in-law Sadie Kirby, Audrey Gulliver, Nan Wheadon, Marcia Wheadon; brother-in-law Ron Penney; a large number of cousins, nephews and nieces, including their MontClaire Street neighbors, as well as a large circle of friends. Resting at Barrett`s Funeral Home, 328 Hamilton Avenue from 7-10 p.m. on Tuesday, from 10 a.m. - 10 p.m. on Wednesday and from 10 a.m. - 12 noon on Thursday. Funeral Service 2 p.m. on Thursday, October 9, 200! 3 at First United Church, Park Avenue, Mt. Pearl. Interment to follow at Mount Pleasant Cemetery. In lieu of flowers donations in her memory may be made to the Miller Centre Palliative Care Unit. Please visit www.barretts.ca to sign the memorial guest book. October 07, 2003

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