Hi There...sorry to say , found no " Freney's "or variants of, on the list.. ~ Ann~ > Hello Ann, > Would you kindly look for Freney(also spelled Franey) in your prisoner list? > Thank you,

Hi Grace.....found no " Mail 's " or variants of, on the list. ~ Ann~ > Hi Ann, > Any Mailes or Mails on your list?

Hi Angus...sorry , found no " Elliot's ". ~ Ann~ > Ann would you the name Elliott please. > Thank you.

Hi there...Sorry , found no Tracy's or variants of.. ~ Ann~ Ann Did you find any Traceys or Treacys in the list of Prisoners

Hi........Sorry , found no " Craig's " ~ Ann~ Do you have any CRAIGs on that list

Journals of the House of Assembly of Newfoundland 1st Session of the 4th House of Assembly St. Johns E.D.Shea , 1848 Table of cases treated in the Provisional Lunatic Asylum for the year 1848 --------------------------------------------------- Shortforms I'm using..... M = married , S = Single ,RC = Roman Catholic COE = Church of England , ? = Having trouble reading it , or unsure of the spelling, or..I just don't know Here's a word that I haven't got a clue what it means , but It looks like it might mean " how long they've had this disorder" at the time they were admiited to the Asylum....Dcration{??}...It's used in the form of " Dcration at time of admission.....any ideas anyone????....I'll note it as Dcrat= Dcration at time of admission. DOA = date of admission , SOA = State on admission, PS = present state Rem = remarks Any { } are my own remarks Also remember that this is for 1848, some of these people have been in there for years! -------------------------------------------------------------- Frank McDonald , 30 yrs,S, fisherman ,Rc >From Nf Disease - epilepsy Dcrat - recent DOA - Nov. 30 , 1817 or 1818 SOA - naked , in bad health PS - under treatment Rem - improved , care probable ---------------------------------------------------- James Nief {?} , 38 yrs , S , fisherman >From - Ireland Disease - dementia , paralysis Dcrat - 1 yr DOA -Dec 1 ,1817 or 1818 SOA - paralytic PS - under treatment Rem - improved , care probable ----------------------------------------------------- Mary Caroline ., 80yrs , M ,RC >From - Ireland Disease - mania Dcrat - many years DOA - Dec. 7 , 1817 SOA - extremely weak ,in dirt , vermin & rags PS - in good health , cleanly Rem - mental state unchanged , cure improbable --------------------------------------------------- Mary Butler , 55 yrs{?} ,M , RC >From - Ireland Disease - mania Dcrat - ? years DOA - ? 1817 or 1818 SOA - In good health , clean , well clad PS - In good health , cleanly Rem - mental state unchanged , cure improbable ---------------------------------------------------- Mary Mooney , 50 yrs , S , >From - Nf Disease - mania , dementia Dcrat- 14 1/2 yrs{?} DOA - ? 1817 or 1818 SOA - emaciated , in dirt , vermin & rags PS - health improved , clean Rem - mental state unchanged, cure improbable ------------------------------------------------ Mary Philpot , 45 yrs , M , COE >From -Nf Disease - mania Dcrat - 4 1/2 yrs DOA - ? 1817 or 1818 SOA - A frightfull object , in filth & rags PS - health good , very cleanly Rem - mental state much improved ,cure probable, from being quite a cripple. walks about -------------------------------------------------- Alice English , 35 yrs , S , RC >From - Nf Disease - dementia Dcrat- 2 1/2 yrs DOA -? 1817 or 1818 SOA -extremely weak & ill , in filth & rags PS - health much better , became fat , clean Rem - mental state much improved, cure improbable -------------------------------------------------------- Catherine Whelan , 50 yrs , M , RC >From - Ireland Disease - mania - hypermania Dcrat - 2 yrs DOA - ? 1817 or 1818 SOA - emaciated , in dirt , vermin , & rags PS - health good , is fat ; clean Rem - mental state much improved , cure probable , dismissed Sept. 17 returned Feb. 2 ----------------------------------------------- Chrisrians Jarret , 38 yrs , S , RC >From - Nf Disease -mania Dcrat - 4 1/2 yrs DOA - ? 1817 or 1818 SOA- emaciated , in dirt ,vermin & rags PS - health good , cleanly Rem - mental state much improved, cure improbable ---------------------------------------------------- Mary Donavan , 2 2yrs , S , house servant , RC >From - Nf Disease - mania Dcrat - recent DOA - dec. 11, 1817 or 1818 SOA - emaciated, ill , in dirt & rags PS - dismissed April 2 Rem - convalescent -------------------------------------------------- Ann Power , 40 yrs ,M , house servant ,Rc >From - Ireland Disease - mania Dcrat - 1 yr DOA - Dec 21 , 1817? SOA - in good health PS - health good Rem - mental state unchanged , cure improbable ---------------------------------------------------- to be continued...... ~ Ann~ Ann { MacDonald } batten

Hi Vera...sorry , not a " Short " among them! ~ Ann~ > Anything on Short??? > > Vera

Hi All... was asked by Clair and another for the link to the web site where I found the prisoner, Asylum and other info, but had tried to send it to the list without success...I have a new pc to get used to!.... Anyway, here it is for those who { like Me! } like to spend time searching..... A lot of reading and time , but quite interesting when you find something...In the mean time I plan on posting further things I came across...Good Luck http://www.canadiana.org/english/ ~ Ann~

Hi Bonnie...Sorry but there were no Driscoll's or Luby/Looby or it's variants.. ~ Ann~ > Do you have a Driscoll or Luby/Looby. Thanks. > > >

Hi Vera....this is a list of prisoners in Nfld from Gov. Journals around 1843-45. If you look at the emails from a few days ago I stated exactly what they were for references for anyone needing them.Please refer back if you need them. I found No Cheesemen but a fellow by the name of " Cheese" St' John's 1845 Henry Cheese ~ Ann~ > Hi Ann > What is this list? Can you check for Cheeseman, cheesman, chesman? >

Tomorrow is the 104th birthday of Mrs. Ethel Blake, nee Miller, from Champney's East, who now resides in Brooklyn, New York. As they say, still very bright, me son. Bert Rolls

Marilyn, Thanks for your comments. However Marilyn (and anyone else interested), you don't need to upgrade your FTM software to have 2 (or even more) FTM files open at the same time. All you have to do is to use the WINDOWS Explorer file manager. First, make sure that the files that you want to open are in the same folder. Then you just highlight each file ( put curser over file name, press CNTL key and LEFT CLICK the mouse over each file) . Once the files are highlighted, RIGHT CLICK and choose OPEN. Voila - multiple files open at the same time. Sounds more complicated than it is. Although I only use FTM, I suspect that this method will also work with other genealogy software. The FTM folks have indicated that version V11 has improved the FILE APPEND/MERGE feature. Does anyone have any feedback on that? And Marilyn, where did you get your upgrade for $19.00+? I deal with Global Genealogy in Milton, ON who normally have the best Canadian prices. They are charging $29.95+ to upgrade from Version 10 to Version 11 and $44.95+ to upgrade from all earlier versions. I have a problem with that as they are also charging the same $44.95+ for a full feature brand new V11 package. I've been an FTM customer for years and I feel that these guys (FTM not Global) are taking advantage with a price structure like that. BTW, I have Version 9. Enough ranting. Matt > Matt Mullaly, Art Dalton and all others who are interested > I installed FTM Vol. 11 and have partially tested it, it is basically > the same as the older version but the ability to have 2 families up at > once is fantastic, Matt I think you would really appreciate it for > working with genweb files, I put the two index files up and went down > the list, when I came to anything that tweaked my interest I just > brought it up and any changes or additions were an easy copy from one to > the other. > I have not been able to test the publishing updates as I don't have > anything to publish at the present may be some one else has tried it. > I would say it was worth the $19.00+ I paid and the Label CD that came > with it is good, but I wouldn't use it very often, although someone with > a mailing list would benefit from it. > > > > ==== NFLD-LAB Mailing List ==== > Roll Call Page for Nfld-Lab Mail List: > http://amoose4.tripod.com/ >

Matt Mullaly, Art Dalton and all others who are interested I installed FTM Vol. 11 and have partially tested it, it is basically the same as the older version but the ability to have 2 families up at once is fantastic, Matt I think you would really appreciate it for working with genweb files, I put the two index files up and went down the list, when I came to anything that tweaked my interest I just brought it up and any changes or additions were an easy copy from one to the other. I have not been able to test the publishing updates as I don't have anything to publish at the present may be some one else has tried it. I would say it was worth the $19.00+ I paid and the Label CD that came with it is good, but I wouldn't use it very often, although someone with a mailing list would benefit from it.

Hi Jeri..Only found 1 : Harbour Grace 1845 Andrew Kough No Heany/Hany or variants..I saw a Henly? This info was found on line with a lot of searching in their data base at canadiana .com. They are Gov. journals from the assembly's. I will forward the link to you. I had tried to send it to the list , maybe I'll try again ?..It would't accept it but I must have erred.... ~ Ann~ > Anne: > > Just caught some of your prisoner posts. > > In McCarthy's book, they mention a "tranported prisoner" to St. John's > KEOUGH (Kough, Keogh, Kehoe) infamous cart thief (I think) > > There was also mention of a Heaney (Haney) somewhere who "jumped ship" without paying > whatever he was supposed to. > > I didn't see a post about where you are finding this info. Is the reference online anywhere. > > Thanks >

Sorry Gerry...missed 1 ! Harbour Grace 1843 John Hearn There was also a Robert " Mearns" for St. John 1845. Wonder if there was a mis- spelling? Or was the name Mearns one of Nf? ~ Ann~ > Ann > > Would you have Conway, Hearn, Curran in your list? > > Thanks > >

Hi Gerry... There were no Conway's or Curran's but found: St. John's 1844 Thomas Hearn St. John's 1845 John Hearn ~ Ann~ > Ann > > Would you have Conway, Hearn, Curran in your list? > > Thanks >

Hi Tracy....Found : Harbour Grace 1843 Thomas Snow Harbour Grace 1844 Thomas Morris St. John's 1845 William Morris Michael Morris ~ Ann~ > If you are not terribly swamped with requests, I have a few lines running > back that far: SNOW, COOPER, MORRIS.

Hi Maryellen , sorry I didn't come across your mail? I must have missed it? Anyway..I found 1 : St. John's 1844 Mary Coady I know the spelling isn't the same , but in case you hadn't thought about it..... the change of spelling was common over time and often depending on the recorder of the data and how they spelled...Very few people were literate and some were not the best at it and spelled names { as some of us still do } as they sound. Which makes it difficult for many of us researchers. You have to keep this in mind.. ~ Ann~ > Hi Ann, > I asked before but have'nt seen the answer yet, maybe I missed it. > Looking for Cody, Brothers and Moore

Hi Cathy...Sorry ...Not a McGee or variant spelling in the lot... ~ Ann~ > Hello Ann, > Would you kindly look for McGee (also spelled Magee) in your prisoner list? > Thank you, > >

Hi Anna...Found : St. John's 1845 Michael Furlong. Saw no Angel's...Though in reality...It would be nice to see an angel eh !:) ~ Ann~ > Hi! Could you check to see if you have any FURLONG or ANGEL? FURLONG would be from IRELAND - ANGEL, from ENGLAND. Thank-you,