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    1. [NFLD-LAB] Robert Hayman, Governor of a Newfoundland colony.
    2. Kathleen
    3. this is taken from The Encyclopedia of Canada, Newfoundland supplement 1949 Hayman, Robert (d. 1631?), epigrammatist, was a native of Devonshire. At Exeter College, Oxford, he acquired some reputation as a poet and became a B.A. He succeeded John Mason (q.v.) as governor of Guy's colony, and in letters to the King he predicted failure of the colony unless large grants were forthcoming. After returning to England he published, in 1628, in one volume called Quodlibets, four books of translations, epigrams and verse which he had written at Harbour Grace. In 1628 he set out to settle a plantation in Guiana, and is thought to have died there in 1631. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Cole" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 8:53 PM Subject: [NFLD-LAB] Robert Hayman, Governor of a Newfoundland colony. > HAYMAN: Flourished 1620 (p223. Prince's 'Worthies of Devon') > Mr Robert Hayman, probably of Bideford. Mercantile family. Governor of > Harbour Grace, Newfoundland c.1620. Later settled in Guiana. Writer and > translator. > > xxxx > HAYMAN, ROBERT, poet, colonizer, governor of Bristol's colony in > Newfoundland; baptized 14 Aug. 1575, son of Nicholas Hayman and Alice > Gaverocke; m. 21 May 1604 Grace Spicer at Exeter; d. Nov. 1629 in Guiana > where he was buried. > Hayman spent his early life in Totnes, Devon, where his father, a > merchant, > was prominent. > > by Gillian Cell > > http://www.biographi.ca/EN/Results.asp > > xxxx > > [TC Note- Was John Prince wrong about Robert Hayman's Bideford origins? He > said probably of Bideford! Gillian Cell is more accurate when she says > Wolborough and Newton Abbot. Is there a close family relationship with the > Hayman/Hamond of Bideford?] > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    11/18/2006 04:01:31
    1. [NFLD-LAB] Robert Hayman, Governor of a Newfoundland colony.
    2. Thomas Cole
    3. HAYMAN: Flourished 1620 (p223. Prince's 'Worthies of Devon') Mr Robert Hayman, probably of Bideford. Mercantile family. Governor of Harbour Grace, Newfoundland c.1620. Later settled in Guiana. Writer and translator. xxxx HAYMAN, ROBERT, poet, colonizer, governor of Bristol's colony in Newfoundland; baptized 14 Aug. 1575, son of Nicholas Hayman and Alice Gaverocke; m. 21 May 1604 Grace Spicer at Exeter; d. Nov. 1629 in Guiana where he was buried. Hayman spent his early life in Totnes, Devon, where his father, a merchant, was prominent. by Gillian Cell http://www.biographi.ca/EN/Results.asp xxxx [TC Note- Was John Prince wrong about Robert Hayman's Bideford origins? He said probably of Bideford! Gillian Cell is more accurate when she says Wolborough and Newton Abbot. Is there a close family relationship with the Hayman/Hamond of Bideford?]

    11/18/2006 03:53:13
    1. [NFLD-LAB] Boatkeepers in Newfoundland 1678
    2. Thomas Cole
    3. The following Boatkeepers in St. John's, Newfoundland 1678: Tho Cutterford from Plymo. Elias Andrews from Stokeintiny. Geo Bale from Dartmo. Richard Sellman from Stokeintiny. Lawrence (H?)aven from Dartmo. Robt Denels from Stokeintiny. Rich Cose from St Mary Church. xpher Toplings from Stokeintiny. Jno Tapper from Stokeintiny. These were fishermen who preferred to reside in Devon rather than take up residence in Newfoundland. A class of men who were too independent or too darn cranky to work with others. In the wintertime prearrangments were made with a fishing master for transportation from Devon to Newfoundland, their small boats being transported with them. Our archival documents also refer to them as "interlopers". Departing Devon on March 1st and depending on the weather they would arrive in Newfoundland by April, set up their operations independently, spend all summer fishing alone off the Newfoundland shores and curing their salt cod. In the Fall, as prearranged with the fishing master, they loaded their produce and their small boats unto the master's ship and went to market in Portugal, Spain or Italy - wherever they could get the best price. There, they also made purchases of fruits, wines, olive oils, etc to replenish the family larder in Devon. By December they would have been back home with their families in Devon, with only about two months in which to recaulk their boats, perform the minor repairs and prepare for the next season. If the north Atlantic crossing wasn't dangerous enough, after arriving in Newfoundland, they were ever vigilant for Britain's traditional enemies - at different eras being Portugese, Spaniard, Dutch or French, ever watchful for pirates in a time when they could have been captured and sold as slaves in North Africa, depending on where they were, ever subject to attack by the Newfoundland natives and having their equipment stolen by them, and always on the alert for Newfoundland fog and storms. To my fellow Devon listers: If you discover a fisherman in your ancestry, do not assume that he had fished in some idyllic creek or stream in Devon - he may have been a Newfoundland interloper!

    11/18/2006 06:18:45
    1. [NFLD-LAB] HOPING & HOLLOWELL in St. John's Newfoundland
    2. Thomas Cole
    3. Richard Hoping is in St. John's, Newfoundland 1675/1678 with a wife and no children. At the same time and place John Hollowell with a wife, 2 sons and 2 daughters. I would like to show these two as related and I am wondering if any lister is researching the Hoppin alias Holwill/Hollowell family in Woodbury, Devon where the alias goes back at least a hundred years before these two.

    11/16/2006 02:56:17
    1. Re: [NFLD-LAB] Holiday:
    2. John Paul Bradford
    3. John, You are correct but it isn't a Holy Day of Obligation in Canada. We have only two now (besides each Sunday) and they are New Years and Christmas Day. God bless John Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Waugh" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; "Nfld Lab" <[email protected]>; "Nfld Roots" <[email protected]>; "NL-ROOTS" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [NFLD-LAB] Holiday: > > > > Matt, > > I think you've made a slight error. > > > August 15th is a Holy Day of Obligation involving Mary but it celebrates > the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin into Heaven. > > The Annunciation of Mary of the Birth of Jesus (the angel appeared to her > and told her she was with child) is March 25th. > > At least it is here in the USA and has always been for my 50 plus years. > Is it possibly different in Newfoundland? > > > John > > > > > > > > > At 14:27 11 15 2006, Matt Mullaly wrote: > QUOTE: > In the 1940's when I was growing up Catholic (I'm recovering, thanks) in > Northern Bay, Conception Bay, August 15, the feast of Mary's Annunciation > was a Holy Day which was similar to a Sunday - obligatory mass, etc. In my > area, the day was known as Lady Day. > > > Here are a few tidbits re Lady Day: > > Normally, RCs didn't fish on Sundays - most Protestants either for that > matter. As August 15 was at the height of the fishing season, the RC > church > allowed fishing provided that the value of half the catch on that day was > donated to the church - sort of a "you win, you lose" deal. As far as I > know, the Protestants didn't have to make this little "donation" to > their > church. > > Northern Bay Sands is a well known beach and fresh water swimming pool > where > we kids spent most of our summer days. However, after August 15, swimming > by > Catholic kids was forbidden by our parents because "the chill was in the > water". I never did find the origin of that stupidity as August 15 is > still > summer - even in Newfoundland. Anyone here know? > > I doubt that this has anything at all to do with your question though > Ron. > > Regards from Florida. > > Matt > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron St.Croix" <[email protected]> > To: "Nfld Lab" <[email protected]>; "Nfld Roots" > <[email protected]>; "NL-ROOTS" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 1:33 PM > Subject: [NFLD-LAB] Holiday: > > >> The following item is from the 19 August 1944 issue of the Western Star >> Newspaper, Corner Brook, Newfoundland under the heading "Codroy Valley": >> "The 15th of August passed by rather uneventfully. However, many sadly >> recalled the big celebrations it occasioned in days gone by, and would >> like to see it return to its former festivity." >> Would anyone know what particular celebrations are being referred to >> here? >> (Napoleon's birthday was/is celebrated in some parts of the world on 15 >> August, but would that have been the case in Newfoundland?) >> Note that Newfoundland was not a part of Canada at that time. >> Thanks. >> Rj > END-QUOTED. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    11/16/2006 01:18:09
    1. Re: [NFLD-LAB] Researching Colbourne
    2. Sandra & Sean Warner
    3. Hi Tonya, My Great-Grandmother was a Colbourne from St.Anthony/ Little Brehat/ Trinity Bay/Conception Bay, NFLD Take care, Sandra -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tonya Ward Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 2:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NFLD-LAB] Researching the William Willis. (Esq) BemisterFamilyLine Hi Sandra: I noticed in your tag line that you researching Colbourne's. I too am researching the Colbourne's, since I am one. My Colbourne's are mostly from the Notre Dame Bay area. Interested in comparing notes? Tonya ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra & Sean Warner" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 6:10 AM Subject: [NFLD-LAB] Researching the William Willis. (Esq) Bemister FamilyLine > > > John Bemister (1742 to 1832) Married to Mary Willis (1749 to Bet. 1832 - > 1838) > > Children > > i. William Willis. (Esq) Bemister (07 May 1789 to 30 Dec 1863) > > ii. Edward Bemister (Abt. 1798 to _______) > > > > William Willis. (Esq) Bemister (07 May 1789 to 30 Dec 1863) Married to > Susan > Ann Howell (1789 to 1851) > > Children > > i. FREDRICK BEMISTER > > ii. JOHN BEMISTER, > > iii. MARIAH BEMISTER > > iv. REUBEN BEMISTER, > > v. SARAH BEMISTER > > vi. WILLIAM BEMISTER > > vii. WILLIS BEMISTER > > viii. UNKNOWN-F BEMISTER > > ix. MARY BEMISTER, b. 10 Jun 1821, Crocker's Cove, Carbonear, CB, NFLD; d. > 03 May 1902, Carbonear, CB, NFLD. (I have a lot on this line; she is my > 3rd > great grandmother) > > > > Any information would be great > > > > Take care, > > > > Sandra Forward-Warner > > Geneology Reseacher (NFLD & NS) > > Bedford, Nova Scotia > > Researching: Newfoundland: Forward; Burden; Taylor; Janes; Oates; Hickman; > Squires; Elliott; Duffett; Budgell; Colbourne; LeDrew; Clarke; Clark; > Howell; Bermister; King; Hancock; Powell; Pilgram/Pilgrim; Holt; ect . > > Why not check out our Newfoundland Grand Banks Genealogy Website Homepage > @ > <http://ngb.chebucto.org/> http://ngb.chebucto.org/ and browse through > approx. 30,000 different Files. > > Nova Scotia: Warner; Faulkner; Hamm; Richardson; Vaughan; Clarke/Clark; > Barkhouse; Slauenwhite; Kehoe; Smith; Sawler (mult. spellings); Mosher; > Zwicker ect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/16/2006 05:58:40
    1. [NFLD-LAB] Message:
    2. Ron St.Croix
    3. Thank You to all who responded to my inquiry regarding celebrations held on 15 August in Newfoundland. Appears that it's the Feast of the Assumption and was celebrated in different ways depending on religion and/or community. Ron St.Croix

    11/16/2006 04:51:52
    1. [NFLD-LAB] August 15
    2. Robert C. Parsons
    3. To the list: According to my research conducted when I interviewed older people in Placentia Bay, Newfoundland. "Ladies' Day" was a day of celebration. "Traditionally, several small towns on the western side of Placentia Bay held "Ladies' Day" on August 15, the Catholic Feast of the Assumption. Ladies and young girls would don their finest dresses and hats. The men of the community were treated to a social and dance sponsored by the ladies and the church. Sailing craft gathered in the harbour: fishing crews in their western boats, inshore fishermen in their dories, and an especially welcome sight would be the tall sails of the schooners." Taken from Chapter 24 of "Toll of the Sea" 1995, reprinted 2003 Note: In August 1927, the four-dory schooner Hilda Gertrude was in Rushoon and was due to sail before August 15th. To accommodate them Ladies' Day was held a day or so before its customary date. After the celebrations and banqueting were over, Danny Cheeseman and his young crew hoisted sail and Hilda Gertrude slipped quietly away, bound for the productive grounds off Cape St. Mary's. The ship was lost with its entire crew. Regards, robert Parsons ________________________________________________ Robert C. Parsons Researcher, Writer, Archivist (Level I) 32 Pearson Place [email protected] Grand Bank, NL, Website: "NF Shipwrecks on the Web" A0E 1W0 http://www.personainternet.com/robertparsons ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Waugh" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; "Nfld Lab" <[email protected]>; "Nfld Roots" <[email protected]>; "NL-ROOTS" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [NL-ROOTS] [NFLD-LAB] Holiday: > > > > Matt, > > I think you've made a slight error. > > > August 15th is a Holy Day of Obligation involving Mary but it celebrates the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin into Heaven. > > The Annunciation of Mary of the Birth of Jesus (the angel appeared to her and told her she was with child) is March 25th. > > At least it is here in the USA and has always been for my 50 plus years. Is it possibly different in Newfoundland? > > > John > > > > > > > > > At 14:27 11 15 2006, Matt Mullaly wrote: > QUOTE: > In the 1940's when I was growing up Catholic (I'm recovering, thanks) in > Northern Bay, Conception Bay, August 15, the feast of Mary's Annunciation > was a Holy Day which was similar to a Sunday - obligatory mass, etc. In my > area, the day was known as Lady Day. > > > Here are a few tidbits re Lady Day: > > Normally, RCs didn't fish on Sundays - most Protestants either for that > matter. As August 15 was at the height of the fishing season, the RC church > allowed fishing provided that the value of half the catch on that day was > donated to the church - sort of a "you win, you lose" deal. As far as I > know, the Protestants didn't have to make this little "donation" to their > church. > > Northern Bay Sands is a well known beach and fresh water swimming pool where > we kids spent most of our summer days. However, after August 15, swimming by > Catholic kids was forbidden by our parents because "the chill was in the > water". I never did find the origin of that stupidity as August 15 is still > summer - even in Newfoundland. Anyone here know? > > I doubt that this has anything at all to do with your question though Ron. > > Regards from Florida. > > Matt > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron St.Croix" <[email protected]> > To: "Nfld Lab" <[email protected]>; "Nfld Roots" > <[email protected]>; "NL-ROOTS" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 1:33 PM > Subject: [NFLD-LAB] Holiday: > > > > The following item is from the 19 August 1944 issue of the Western Star > > Newspaper, Corner Brook, Newfoundland under the heading "Codroy Valley": > > "The 15th of August passed by rather uneventfully. However, many sadly > > recalled the big celebrations it occasioned in days gone by, and would > > like to see it return to its former festivity." > > Would anyone know what particular celebrations are being referred to here? > > (Napoleon's birthday was/is celebrated in some parts of the world on 15 > > August, but would that have been the case in Newfoundland?) > > Note that Newfoundland was not a part of Canada at that time. > > Thanks. > > Rj > END-QUOTED. > > > ** PLEASE NOTE ** > To reply to the entire list, please insert email address [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    11/15/2006 12:39:46
    1. [NFLD-LAB] Fabian of Wimborne Minster
    2. Thomas Cole
    3. Researchers of the Newfoundland census for 1675 at Bay de Verde who had their hearts set on the name "ffalin" being the name Phalen will be disappointed. On the other hand, researchers into the name FABIAN will be happy to learn that this was written as "ffabin" and is the name Joseph Fabian of Wimborne Minster, Dorset, who was dead by 1723 when his brother Simon Fabian inherited the property in Bay de Verde.

    11/15/2006 12:12:46
    1. Re: [NFLD-LAB] Holiday:
    2. Ethel Close
    3. Garden Party day was celebrated on that day in my Village.....Ethel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron St.Croix" <[email protected]> To: "Nfld Lab" <[email protected]>; "Nfld Roots" <[email protected]>; "NL-ROOTS" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 2:33 PM Subject: [NFLD-LAB] Holiday: > The following item is from the 19 August 1944 issue of the Western Star > Newspaper, Corner Brook, Newfoundland under the heading "Codroy Valley": > "The 15th of August passed by rather uneventfully. However, many sadly > recalled the big celebrations it occasioned in days gone by, and would > like to see it return to its former festivity." > Would anyone know what particular celebrations are being referred to here? > (Napoleon's birthday was/is celebrated in some parts of the world on 15 > August, but would that have been the case in Newfoundland?) > Note that Newfoundland was not a part of Canada at that time. > Thanks. > Rj > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.5/534 - Release Date: 11/14/2006 > 3:58 PM > >

    11/15/2006 11:00:06
    1. Re: [NFLD-LAB] Holiday:
    2. Matt Mullaly
    3. John, Whoooooops! My error. I got the conception part confused with the flying virgin part. Sorry about that. Matt > Matt, > > I think you've made a slight error. > > > August 15th is a Holy Day of Obligation involving Mary but it celebrates > the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin into Heaven. > > The Annunciation of Mary of the Birth of Jesus (the angel appeared to her > and told her she was with child) is March 25th. > > At least it is here in the USA and has always been for my 50 plus years. > Is it possibly different in Newfoundland? > > > John > > > > > > > > > At 14:27 11 15 2006, Matt Mullaly wrote: > QUOTE: > In the 1940's when I was growing up Catholic (I'm recovering, thanks) in > Northern Bay, Conception Bay, August 15, the feast of Mary's Annunciation > was a Holy Day which was similar to a Sunday - obligatory mass, etc. In my > area, the day was known as Lady Day. > > > Here are a few tidbits re Lady Day: > > Normally, RCs didn't fish on Sundays - most Protestants either for that > matter. As August 15 was at the height of the fishing season, the RC > church > allowed fishing provided that the value of half the catch on that day was > donated to the church - sort of a "you win, you lose" deal. As far as I > know, the Protestants didn't have to make this little "donation" to > their > church. > > Northern Bay Sands is a well known beach and fresh water swimming pool > where > we kids spent most of our summer days. However, after August 15, swimming > by > Catholic kids was forbidden by our parents because "the chill was in the > water". I never did find the origin of that stupidity as August 15 is > still > summer - even in Newfoundland. Anyone here know? > > I doubt that this has anything at all to do with your question though > Ron. > > Regards from Florida. > > Matt > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron St.Croix" <[email protected]> > To: "Nfld Lab" <[email protected]>; "Nfld Roots" > <[email protected]>; "NL-ROOTS" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 1:33 PM > Subject: [NFLD-LAB] Holiday: > > >> The following item is from the 19 August 1944 issue of the Western Star >> Newspaper, Corner Brook, Newfoundland under the heading "Codroy Valley": >> "The 15th of August passed by rather uneventfully. However, many sadly >> recalled the big celebrations it occasioned in days gone by, and would >> like to see it return to its former festivity." >> Would anyone know what particular celebrations are being referred to >> here? >> (Napoleon's birthday was/is celebrated in some parts of the world on 15 >> August, but would that have been the case in Newfoundland?) >> Note that Newfoundland was not a part of Canada at that time. >> Thanks. >> Rj > END-QUOTED. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    11/15/2006 10:45:32
    1. Re: [NFLD-LAB] Holiday:
    2. John Waugh
    3. Matt, I think you've made a slight error. August 15th is a Holy Day of Obligation involving Mary but it celebrates the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin into Heaven. The Annunciation of Mary of the Birth of Jesus (the angel appeared to her and told her she was with child) is March 25th. At least it is here in the USA and has always been for my 50 plus years. Is it possibly different in Newfoundland? John At 14:27 11 15 2006, Matt Mullaly wrote: QUOTE: In the 1940's when I was growing up Catholic (I'm recovering, thanks) in Northern Bay, Conception Bay, August 15, the feast of Mary's Annunciation was a Holy Day which was similar to a Sunday - obligatory mass, etc. In my area, the day was known as Lady Day. Here are a few tidbits re Lady Day: Normally, RCs didn't fish on Sundays - most Protestants either for that matter. As August 15 was at the height of the fishing season, the RC church allowed fishing provided that the value of half the catch on that day was donated to the church - sort of a "you win, you lose" deal. As far as I know, the Protestants didn't have to make this little "donation" to their church. Northern Bay Sands is a well known beach and fresh water swimming pool where we kids spent most of our summer days. However, after August 15, swimming by Catholic kids was forbidden by our parents because "the chill was in the water". I never did find the origin of that stupidity as August 15 is still summer - even in Newfoundland. Anyone here know? I doubt that this has anything at all to do with your question though Ron. Regards from Florida. Matt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron St.Croix" <[email protected]> To: "Nfld Lab" <[email protected]>; "Nfld Roots" <[email protected]>; "NL-ROOTS" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 1:33 PM Subject: [NFLD-LAB] Holiday: > The following item is from the 19 August 1944 issue of the Western Star > Newspaper, Corner Brook, Newfoundland under the heading "Codroy Valley": > "The 15th of August passed by rather uneventfully. However, many sadly > recalled the big celebrations it occasioned in days gone by, and would > like to see it return to its former festivity." > Would anyone know what particular celebrations are being referred to here? > (Napoleon's birthday was/is celebrated in some parts of the world on 15 > August, but would that have been the case in Newfoundland?) > Note that Newfoundland was not a part of Canada at that time. > Thanks. > Rj END-QUOTED.

    11/15/2006 10:10:02
    1. Re: [NFLD-LAB] Holiday:
    2. John Waugh
    3. Matt, I think you've made a slight error. August 15th is a Holy Day of Obligation involving Mary but it celebrates the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin into Heaven. The Annunciation of Mary of the Birth of Jesus (the angel appeared to her and told her she was with child) is March 25th. At least it is here in the USA and has always been for my 50 plus years. Is it possibly different in Newfoundland? John Responding to the following quoted message RECEIVED 14:27 11 15 2006, FROM Matt Mullaly : QUOTE: In the 1940's when I was growing up Catholic (I'm recovering, thanks) in Northern Bay, Conception Bay, August 15, the feast of Mary's Annunciation was a Holy Day which was similar to a Sunday - obligatory mass, etc. In my area, the day was known as Lady Day. Here are a few tidbits re Lady Day: Normally, RCs didn't fish on Sundays - most Protestants either for that matter. As August 15 was at the height of the fishing season, the RC church allowed fishing provided that the value of half the catch on that day was donated to the church - sort of a "you win, you lose" deal. As far as I know, the Protestants didn't have to make this little "donation" to their church. Northern Bay Sands is a well known beach and fresh water swimming pool where we kids spent most of our summer days. However, after August 15, swimming by Catholic kids was forbidden by our parents because "the chill was in the water". I never did find the origin of that stupidity as August 15 is still summer - even in Newfoundland. Anyone here know? I doubt that this has anything at all to do with your question though Ron. Regards from Florida. Matt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron St.Croix" <[email protected]> To: "Nfld Lab" <[email protected]>; "Nfld Roots" <[email protected]>; "NL-ROOTS" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 1:33 PM Subject: [NFLD-LAB] Holiday: > The following item is from the 19 August 1944 issue of the Western Star > Newspaper, Corner Brook, Newfoundland under the heading "Codroy Valley": > "The 15th of August passed by rather uneventfully. However, many sadly > recalled the big celebrations it occasioned in days gone by, and would > like to see it return to its former festivity." > Would anyone know what particular celebrations are being referred to here? > (Napoleon's birthday was/is celebrated in some parts of the world on 15 > August, but would that have been the case in Newfoundland?) > Note that Newfoundland was not a part of Canada at that time. > Thanks. > Rj

    11/15/2006 10:08:48
    1. Re: [NFLD-LAB] Holiday:
    2. Matt Mullaly
    3. In the 1940's when I was growing up Catholic (I'm recovering, thanks) in Northern Bay, Conception Bay, August 15, the feast of Mary's Annunciation was a Holy Day which was similar to a Sunday - obligatory mass, etc. In my area, the day was known as Lady Day. Here are a few tidbits re Lady Day: Normally, RCs didn't fish on Sundays - most Protestants either for that matter. As August 15 was at the height of the fishing season, the RC church allowed fishing provided that the value of half the catch on that day was donated to the church - sort of a "you win, you lose" deal. As far as I know, the Protestants didn't have to make this little "donation" to their church. Northern Bay Sands is a well known beach and fresh water swimming pool where we kids spent most of our summer days. However, after August 15, swimming by Catholic kids was forbidden by our parents because "the chill was in the water". I never did find the origin of that stupidity as August 15 is still summer - even in Newfoundland. Anyone here know? I doubt that this has anything at all to do with your question though Ron. Regards from Florida. Matt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron St.Croix" <[email protected]> To: "Nfld Lab" <[email protected]>; "Nfld Roots" <[email protected]>; "NL-ROOTS" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 1:33 PM Subject: [NFLD-LAB] Holiday: > The following item is from the 19 August 1944 issue of the Western Star > Newspaper, Corner Brook, Newfoundland under the heading "Codroy Valley": > "The 15th of August passed by rather uneventfully. However, many sadly > recalled the big celebrations it occasioned in days gone by, and would > like to see it return to its former festivity." > Would anyone know what particular celebrations are being referred to here? > (Napoleon's birthday was/is celebrated in some parts of the world on 15 > August, but would that have been the case in Newfoundland?) > Note that Newfoundland was not a part of Canada at that time. > Thanks. > Rj > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    11/15/2006 07:27:15
    1. [NFLD-LAB] Holiday:
    2. Ron St.Croix
    3. The following item is from the 19 August 1944 issue of the Western Star Newspaper, Corner Brook, Newfoundland under the heading "Codroy Valley": "The 15th of August passed by rather uneventfully. However, many sadly recalled the big celebrations it occasioned in days gone by, and would like to see it return to its former festivity." Would anyone know what particular celebrations are being referred to here? (Napoleon's birthday was/is celebrated in some parts of the world on 15 August, but would that have been the case in Newfoundland?) Note that Newfoundland was not a part of Canada at that time. Thanks. Rj

    11/15/2006 06:33:45
    1. Re: [NFLD-LAB] Researching the William Willis. (Esq) Bemister FamilyLine
    2. Tonya Ward
    3. Hi Sandra: I noticed in your tag line that you researching Colbourne's. I too am researching the Colbourne's, since I am one. My Colbourne's are mostly from the Notre Dame Bay area. Interested in comparing notes? Tonya ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra & Sean Warner" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 6:10 AM Subject: [NFLD-LAB] Researching the William Willis. (Esq) Bemister FamilyLine > > > John Bemister (1742 to 1832) Married to Mary Willis (1749 to Bet. 1832 - > 1838) > > Children > > i. William Willis. (Esq) Bemister (07 May 1789 to 30 Dec 1863) > > ii. Edward Bemister (Abt. 1798 to _______) > > > > William Willis. (Esq) Bemister (07 May 1789 to 30 Dec 1863) Married to > Susan > Ann Howell (1789 to 1851) > > Children > > i. FREDRICK BEMISTER > > ii. JOHN BEMISTER, > > iii. MARIAH BEMISTER > > iv. REUBEN BEMISTER, > > v. SARAH BEMISTER > > vi. WILLIAM BEMISTER > > vii. WILLIS BEMISTER > > viii. UNKNOWN-F BEMISTER > > ix. MARY BEMISTER, b. 10 Jun 1821, Crocker's Cove, Carbonear, CB, NFLD; d. > 03 May 1902, Carbonear, CB, NFLD. (I have a lot on this line; she is my > 3rd > great grandmother) > > > > Any information would be great > > > > Take care, > > > > Sandra Forward-Warner > > Geneology Reseacher (NFLD & NS) > > Bedford, Nova Scotia > > Researching: Newfoundland: Forward; Burden; Taylor; Janes; Oates; Hickman; > Squires; Elliott; Duffett; Budgell; Colbourne; LeDrew; Clarke; Clark; > Howell; Bermister; King; Hancock; Powell; Pilgram/Pilgrim; Holt; ect . > > Why not check out our Newfoundland Grand Banks Genealogy Website Homepage > @ > <http://ngb.chebucto.org/> http://ngb.chebucto.org/ and browse through > approx. 30,000 different Files. > > Nova Scotia: Warner; Faulkner; Hamm; Richardson; Vaughan; Clarke/Clark; > Barkhouse; Slauenwhite; Kehoe; Smith; Sawler (mult. spellings); Mosher; > Zwicker ect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    11/14/2006 04:24:49
    1. [NFLD-LAB] Researching the William Willis. (Esq) Bemister Family Line
    2. Sandra & Sean Warner
    3. John Bemister (1742 to 1832) Married to Mary Willis (1749 to Bet. 1832 - 1838) Children i. William Willis. (Esq) Bemister (07 May 1789 to 30 Dec 1863) ii. Edward Bemister (Abt. 1798 to _______) William Willis. (Esq) Bemister (07 May 1789 to 30 Dec 1863) Married to Susan Ann Howell (1789 to 1851) Children i. FREDRICK BEMISTER ii. JOHN BEMISTER, iii. MARIAH BEMISTER iv. REUBEN BEMISTER, v. SARAH BEMISTER vi. WILLIAM BEMISTER vii. WILLIS BEMISTER viii. UNKNOWN-F BEMISTER ix. MARY BEMISTER, b. 10 Jun 1821, Crocker's Cove, Carbonear, CB, NFLD; d. 03 May 1902, Carbonear, CB, NFLD. (I have a lot on this line; she is my 3rd great grandmother) Any information would be great Take care, Sandra Forward-Warner Geneology Reseacher (NFLD & NS) Bedford, Nova Scotia Researching: Newfoundland: Forward; Burden; Taylor; Janes; Oates; Hickman; Squires; Elliott; Duffett; Budgell; Colbourne; LeDrew; Clarke; Clark; Howell; Bermister; King; Hancock; Powell; Pilgram/Pilgrim; Holt; ect . Why not check out our Newfoundland Grand Banks Genealogy Website Homepage @ <http://ngb.chebucto.org/> http://ngb.chebucto.org/ and browse through approx. 30,000 different Files. Nova Scotia: Warner; Faulkner; Hamm; Richardson; Vaughan; Clarke/Clark; Barkhouse; Slauenwhite; Kehoe; Smith; Sawler (mult. spellings); Mosher; Zwicker ect.

    11/14/2006 02:10:52
    1. [NFLD-LAB] Burin 1921
    2. Don Tate
    3. Hello Pulled out the original pages for Burin Bay and it appears that the transcriber was correct in their transcription of the page. If you would like a copy of the page, contact me off list and I will be glad to send a copy for you to look at and get your opinion. All opinions are welcome in reading the handwriting on some of these old pages so the posted information can be made as accurate as possible. Don Tate NGB Site

    11/13/2006 04:15:02
    1. [NFLD-LAB] John Blackey born in Newfoundland
    2. Thomas Cole
    3. John Blackey seaman - 1780 Settlement examination at Combeinteignhead, Devon Born at St Johns, Newfoundland, was bound an apprentice by his parents to John Martin of East Teignmouth, until he was 21 yrs. Soon after, he came with his master to East Teignmouth, where he lived in the winter time. Went to Newfoundland in summer, and continued to do so until his time expired.

    11/13/2006 03:54:15
    1. [NFLD-LAB] Correction 1921 census
    2. Wilson and Yvonne Dicks
    3. Hi I'm from the Burin area and looking at the surnames below from the Burin area for the 1921 census there appears to be an error. I'm fairly certain that the "Gipph" surname is in errror and that the "Grampton" surname should be "Frampton". If you were to e-mail a copy of the actual written document I'm quite certain I could transcribe it correctly. regards Wilson Gipph Fredrick M Head Married 1896 Sept 25 Burin Gipph Mira ? F Wife Married 1895 Oct 25 Hants Hbr. Gipph Thomas M Son Single 1920 June 1 Burin Gipph Glora F Mother Widow 1864 April 57 Flat Islands Grampton William M Head Married 1897 Oct 23 Burin Grampton Maud F Wife Married 1897 Oct 23 Burin

    11/13/2006 01:37:48