Gay and Mae, I have updated my websites to reflect what you have been telling us on John Newton d. 1788/1799. Also changed his wives to Mary Mitchell and Naomi Richardson? I tried to show that this John Newton wasn't the Sgt. John Newton in the Rev. War in SC. I still haven't found his estate papers. I couldn't find them in the estate indexes in SC. Does anyone have a copy that they would share? I understand that some folks have seen them as they are telling about things that are in his estate folder. I understand there are other documents on this family but I just can't seem to locate them to prove what we have on these familys. Can anyone tell me where to find these documents on This John Newton d. 1798/1799? DAVE My updated websites: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=otime http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=cateel From: LYNDON NIX <warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net> To: newton@rootsweb.com Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 12:57:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [NEWTON] John and Mary Mitchell (Naomi) Newton David, Who told you that Mary may have had a middle name? I don't know how many times I have told this, but I am the one who started calling Mary, Mary Naomi, I'm the culprit, and I guess this will haunt me till I die. I started that in the 1960's. Like I have stated before, I started my genealogy 38 years ago, and was confused at Carrie Newton Wright's statement in the Boddie Book about John and Naomi. At that time period when Carrie went into the DAR, she went in on John and stated his wife was Naomi, now after the book was published, the Travel and Religious Experience Of Isaac Newton was found in possession of Nora Cantrell, the original, which the top had been brittle and torn with age, it said son of John and Mary Newton, I do not know who ended up with this priceless documentation. But Miss Annie Lee Boggs who lived in Pendleton, South Carolina typed what it said leaving off what had been torn at the top of the page. This was done in the 1960's I have a copy of that one which was done back in the 1960's, if you have the one that someone added Naomi to it, then yours would be fake. What I am also trying to make myself clear on is that Carrie Newton Wright never knew that her ancestor was Mary Mitchell and not Naomi, like she claimed, I don't believe she ever knew that new evidence had surfaced. If my memory serves me right she was in her late 80's,when she was interested in her Newton family. Her son was a Doctor in Ala, when I last heard from her, she said her son was going to put a stop to her genealogy, because she would get to excited over letters and etc, so I quit writting to her, she had moved in with him. Now to make things worse and I do take the blame for this also. I sent a family group sheet to Gail Andrews with information about her family, by mistake I had not changed the data on John Newton's family group sheet and it still said Mary Naomi Newton. Then Gail not knowing it was incorrect sent it out all over the internet, she sent it to Cindy Teel, who had a web page and published it on her sight. David Payne told me that Cindy was his daughter, and she no longer maintains the sight, so he took over the web page for her. which I'm sure is a full time job. David, Mary Mitchell Newton died in the 1790's are right after 1790 census. Then he married Naomi, sorry to say, South Carolina wasn't required to record marriages in that time frame. Naomi after John died, left and went to Tenn and ended up in Mo where she died. I have lots of info on that family, but Ernest should be able to tell you what you need to know about that side of the family, because he descends from Larkin. Now where do you get that John died in 1787? What happened to the data I sent you, I thought it was pretty well documented. Estate papers say 1799. John Newton's son Isaac writes in his Travels that he and his father John went to Va in 1798, he is alive and well other than he did have rheumatism. David have you had the time to correct Henry's wife's name to Nancy Davidson and not Glass? Gay Nix 1526 W. Hull st Denison, Texas 75020 Please feel free to call are write me. Phone: 903-465-7964 From: "Mae Cox" <mae@coxok.com> To: <newton@rootsweb.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 15:48:30 -0600 Subject: Re: [NEWTON] John and Mary Mitchell (Naomi) Newton Well said, Gay. It's hard to believe that, as many times as you've given this information out, some folks still haven't grasped what you've told them. Another thing too.... Is the confusion on John Newton being in the Revolutionary War. Many folks still have the two combined into the same person.... I see that Cindy Teel has a memo/email posted there where someone is trying to get into the SAR/DAR on Sgt. John Newton's service when they are of our John Newton lineage. Folks... Listen up! John Newton born bet.1740-50 and died abt 1799, is NOT, and I repeat... Is NOT the Sgt. John Newton hero (b. 1755, d. 1780). Sgt. Newton died of smallpox at 25 years of age on a ship. Our John Newton was still alive and having kids at that time! Mae Cox in Oklahoma John > Henry > Isaac Mitchell > Jasper 'Jap' > Flora David S. 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