Oh Mary!That's wonderful! My mother's first name was Bertie.. She must have been named after her Aunt 'Bertie' I'll definitely email you privately. This is just wonderful! Barb In a message dated 4/16/2006 6:45:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, mknowlin@cox.net writes: Dear Barb, Your Daniel Webster Guinn was the brother to my Aunt Bertie, who married my Uncle Carl Doolittle Newton. I grew up in a house with Aunt Bertie and Uncle Carl. They and my parents lived together in McLoud, OK. I took care of Aunt Berties estate when she died. Have much info. Mary K. (Newton) Nowlin Barb :) Surnames: Dunn, Brewster, Groat, Harding, West, Guinn, Newton, Bettis, Williams "Share knowledge as if it is a living entity, for in fact, it is. It lives on in the lives of others for generations to come." Barb Grainger - 2006