David, Who told you that Mary may have had a middle name? I don't know how many times I have told this, but I am the one who started calling Mary, Mary Naomi, I'm the culprit, and I guess this will haunt me till I die. I started that in the 1960's. Like I have stated before, I started my genealogy 38 years ago, and was confused at Carrie Newton Wright's statement in the Boddie Book about John and Naomi. At that time period when Carrie went into the DAR, she went in on John and stated his wife was Naomi, now after the book was published, the Travel and Religious Experience Of Isaac Newton was found in possession of Nora Cantrell, the original, which the top had been brittle and torn with age, it said son of John and Mary Newton, I do not know who ended up with this priceless documentation. But Miss Annie Lee Boggs who lived in Pendleton, South Carolina typed what it said leaving off what had been torn at the top of the page. This was done in the 1960's I have a copy of that one which was done back in the 1960's, if you have the one that someone added Naomi to it, then yours would be fake. What I am also trying to make myself clear on is that Carrie Newton Wright never knew that her ancestor was Mary Mitchell and not Naomi, like she claimed, I don't believe she ever knew that new evidence had surfaced. If my memory serves me right she was in her late 80's,when she was interested in her Newton family. Her son was a Doctor in Ala, when I last heard from her, she said her son was going to put a stop to her genealogy, because she would get to excited over letters and etc, so I quit writting to her, she had moved in with him. Now to make things worse and I do take the blame for this also. I sent a family group sheet to Gail Andrews with information about her family, by mistake I had not changed the data on John Newton's family group sheet and it still said Mary Naomi Newton. Then Gail not knowing it was incorrect sent it out all over the internet, she sent it to Cindy Teel, who had a web page and published it on her sight. David Payne told me that Cindy was his daughter, and she no longer maintains the sight, so he took over the web page for her. which I'm sure is a full time job. David, Mary Mitchell Newton died in the 1790's are right after 1790 census. Then he married Naomi, sorry to say, South Carolina wasn't required to record marriages in that time frame. Naomi after John died, left and went to Tenn and ended up in Mo where she died. I have lots of info on that family, but Ernest should be able to tell you what you need to know about that side of the family, because he descends from Larkin. Now where do you get that John died in 1787? What happened to the data I sent you, I thought it was pretty well documented. Estate papers say 1799. John Newton's son Isaac writes in his Travels that he and his father John went to Va in 1798, he is alive and well other than he did have rheumatism. David have you had the time to correct Henry's wife's name to Nancy Davidson and not Glass? Gay Nix 1526 W. Hull st Denison, Texas 75020 Please feel free to call are write me. Phone: 903-465-7964 "David S. Payne" <otime1@yahoo.com> wrote: Bryan, Gay, Ernest, and Helen, On the John Newton that married Mary Mitchell and Naomi????? I heard that Mary's middle name may have been Naomi. Since Mary didn't die till 1841 in Newton, MO, either Naomi married John first or he divorced Mary???? Or is that Naomi that died in 1841 in MO? John died in 1787 so he couldn't have sired a child in 1794. Do you think there may have been another John Newton that married that Naomi Mitchell?, Richardson?, or what ever her name was? I am beginning to believe that Mary Mitchell was also Naomi. What do y'all think? Also this is on the title of Isaac Newton's article THE TRAVEL & RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE OF Isaac Newton, son of John and Mary Naomi Mitchell Newton Check my websites at bottom of this mail. DAVE From: LYNDON NIX <warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net> To: Ernest Young <eyoung@felpsis.net>, newton@rootsweb.com Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:59:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [NEWTON] Newton Family Genealogy Book Ernest, We know that Isaac Mitchell had a will and named his children, and grandchildren and etc, there was no mention of Naomi listed in this will, she was still living when will was made, so do not think she was a sister to Mary. The only children John had with Mary was William, Henry and Isaac. I don't know who the females were in 1790, perhaps children from Naomi are females born to Mary, not sure when John married Naomi. Gay Nix Ernest Young wrote: Helen, Do you have any proof that Naomi's maiden name was Mitchell? I am descended from John Newton and Naomi through their son Larkin Newton (b: 17 March 1794 in South Carolina and d: 21 May 1858 near Midlothian, Ellis Co., Texas). Those of us who have been researching this branch have not found any proof her maiden name was Mitchell. That could imply that she likely was a sister of Mary Mitchell, John Newton's first wife. And while that certainly happened in many instances back then, and now, too, there is no proof that Naomi's maiden name was Mitchell. As far as I know, her maiden surname is not known. What is your descendant line from John Newton and Naomi? Ernest Young Floresville, Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Thomas" To: Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [NEWTON] Newton Family Genealogy Book > Bryan, > > Was your John Newton married to Naomi Mitchell? If so, they were my 4th > great grandparents. > > Helen In Nevada > David S. Payne, otime1@yahoo.com : My websites: My surnames mostly in Upstate SC/GA, & Western NC: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=otime My wife's Newton, Gray, Patterson, and other kin: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=cateel My Pictures, etc: http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/p/a/y/David-Sheldon-Payne/?Welcome=1095014020 --------------------------------- Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited. Gay Nix warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net