Gregg, Ok, the copy I was talking about, is the letter from McKnight that I would send if anyone wanted one. Now as far as the original, I wish I did have it, this came from McKnight also. We would have to find who inherited Mrs. Cantrell's family papers, If this was posted on the internet, then yes I would have to question that. But this was back in 1981 and snail-mail and from a responsible researcher who knew some of the older Newton family. You may get a better picture after reading the letter. But even if there was no John and Mary Mitchell Newton heading, it wouldn't really change the strong evidence that we are on the right track, with John Newton and wife Mary Mitchell. Now, since John did not have a will to prove he is the father of Isaac, we have to use what other data we can find for Isaac, Henry and William. I can only give you what I have to come to the conclusion that John is the father of Isaac and his brothers Henry and William. As you know you have to start somewhere, this is just a short detail as to how I found my trail to John. My Andrew Dorsey Newton on Civil War Papers said he was born 1846 Hall Co, Ga. The only Newton in Hall county that fit was Isaac Mitchell Newton. Then in deed record shows all of Henry Newton's children. Census records showed that Isaac Mitchell Newton was born in S.C., so through census records, I found Henry and William Newton in Pendleton Co, S.C., then going back 1790 and the three sons were not married yet, I found 3 males living in household with a John Newton for Newberry dist S.C., then went to books on that county. Then you find the will of Isaac Mitchell and he names grandsons William, Henry and Isaac Newton, and figure this is the grandfather of our Wm, Isaac and Henry, which all carrie the Isaac Mitchell name down in their family. I did check out all 6 Newton's who were in S.C., for 1790 and John is the only one with 3 males that would fit. Yes, you are right that doesn't mean that the Newton grandsons could have been fathered by another Newton male, but John and his sons were the only Newton's in the right place at the right time. Perhaps David Payne who lives in the area, can find out who has the original document. Miss Annie Lee Boggs in 1981 lived at 203 S. Mechanic st. Pendleton, S.C. and I believe McKnight lived there also, maybe not at same address. Now, research needs to be done in the courthouse in Newberry and Pendleton, which I haven't known of anyone that has done any research in the courthouse, we may find a lot of info there, I have been in a lot of courthouses but haven't made it to these two, In about 2 years I do plan to go. Gay Nix 1526 W. Hull st Denison, Texas 75020 Gregg Bonner <greggbonner@yahoo.com> wrote: Gay, you wrote: > I will send you a copy of it, if you let me know and send a self > addressed envelope or I can scan it for you. Now another important > note on this document is the original, said he was the son of John > and Mary Newton, and after at least 114 years it became brittle and > got torn off, which was at the beginning of the page. > > Nora Cantrell had the original. Does the part that got torn off survive alongside the rest of the original? You say that you can scan it, but I am wondering if it is the case that what you have to scan includes the fragment that said he (Isaac) was the son of John and Mary Newton. Also, other than this fragment that came off the document mentioned above, is there any other proof that John was the father of Isaac? I see that Isaac Mitchell's will names NEWTON grandsons, but I see no reason that these grandsons couldn't have been fathered by a NEWTON male of any name. In short, I get pretty suspicious when the only evidence is something that is now lost. In my own NEWTON line, there was a "lawsuit" over something, and all the "proofs" of my line were being shipped to England for this lawsuit and the boat "sank". Now I realize that what was more likely was that those NEWTONs were being scammed by bogus lawyers...the centuries ago equivalent of the Nigerian 419 scam. In any case, I would feel better about it if the fragment could be scanned alongside the rest so that there is no misunderstanding of what exists and what does not. Best, Gregg Bonner Bethany, Oklahoma, USA ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $310k for $999/mo. Calculate new payment! www.LowerMyBills.com/lre ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NEWTON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Gay Nix warpaint1128@sbcglobal.net