Hi Folks, I am still trying to sort out these people. I see online where some claim that the subject line Isaac Newton is one and the same. If it is true that Isaac Newton died in 1825, then he obviously isn't the Isaac Newton in the 1850 census of New Hanover County (Page 373A) with wife Elizabeth. It seems to me now that Isaac Newton who married Elizabeth Alderman is the son of George Newton and Ann "Nancy" Moore, whereas Isaac Newton who married Elizabeth Bland was the son of Isaac Newton and Jemima Chambers. To make the Isaac Newton one and the same would require he have two sons named William (one born 1809 (William Isaac Newton), and another (William Bland Newton) born 1818) and two sons named George (one born 1808, and another (George F. Newton) born 1824. The other thing about separating these Isaac Newtons is that the DNA is different. From Isaac, son of George is "M", whereas Isaac (and his brother Enoch), son(s) of Isaac are type "O". This means that George Newton and Isaac Newton are not likely to be brothers, as previously described (2 mutations in 12 markers is usually too many to have a common ancestor as near as, say, 1700-1720). Also as previously described, we need corroborating samples to be sure. At this point, my #1 target for this group would be a descendant of Isaac Newton (1770-1825) through a son other than William Isaac Newton. Perhaps someone can find a descendant of James or George to test. Any help on recruitment would be much appreciated by me, the "M"s, and some of the "O"s, to say the least. Also, I would appreciate it if somebody could give me a reference or deduction for the date of death of Elizabeth (Alderman) Newton and/or Elizabeth (Bland) Newton. Best, Gregg Bonner NEWTON Surname DNA Project Group Administrator __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Gregg, Elizabeth Alderman, daughter of John Alderman, Sr., and wife of Isaac Newton (1770-1825), died in 1848 in Brooks Co., GA. I have no documentation for this, except the date has been handed down in our family through her grandson, George Fennell Newton, to my grandfather, Joseph Milton Newton, to my father, Isaac Lamar Newton. She is buried in the Old Bethel Primitive Baptist Church Cemetery near Pavo, GA. Though her grave is not marked, there is a large monument in the cemetery, placed there within the last 20 years, bearing that information. One publication that does carry her death date is "Pioneers of Wiregrass Georgia" by Folks Huxford. This book is no longer accepted as proof by most heritage organizations, for there have been found a lot of errors in it over the years. Judge Huxford gathered most of his information from living descendants when he started publishing this series in 1948, so Elizabeth's death date of 1848 MIGHT be correct, since it concurs with family tradition. I truly wish I had firm documentation, for my own sake as well as for this study....alas, I do not. Janice Newton Thurmond, Marietta, GA On 7/5/06 3:23 AM, "Gregg Bonner" <greggbonner@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I am still trying to sort out these people. I see > online where some claim that the subject line Isaac > Newton is one and the same. If it is true that Isaac > Newton died in 1825, then he obviously isn't the Isaac > Newton in the 1850 census of New Hanover County (Page > 373A) with wife Elizabeth. > > It seems to me now that Isaac Newton who married > Elizabeth Alderman is the son of George Newton and Ann > "Nancy" Moore, whereas Isaac Newton who married > Elizabeth Bland was the son of Isaac Newton and Jemima > Chambers. To make the Isaac Newton one and the same > would require he have two sons named William (one born > 1809 (William Isaac Newton), and another (William > Bland Newton) born 1818) and two sons named George > (one born 1808, and another (George F. Newton) born > 1824. > > The other thing about separating these Isaac Newtons > is that the DNA is different. From Isaac, son of > George is "M", whereas Isaac (and his brother Enoch), > son(s) of Isaac are type "O". This means that George > Newton and Isaac Newton are not likely to be brothers, > as previously described (2 mutations in 12 markers is > usually too many to have a common ancestor as near as, > say, 1700-1720). Also as previously described, we need > corroborating samples to be sure. At this point, my #1 > target for this group would be a descendant of Isaac > Newton (1770-1825) through a son other than William > Isaac Newton. Perhaps someone can find a descendant of > James or George to test. Any help on recruitment would > be much appreciated by me, the "M"s, and some of the > "O"s, to say the least. > > Also, I would appreciate it if somebody could give me > a reference or deduction for the date of death of > Elizabeth (Alderman) Newton and/or Elizabeth (Bland) > Newton. > > Best, > > Gregg Bonner > NEWTON Surname DNA Project Group Administrator > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >